Bodybuilding? Do you care??

Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
all?? Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan. I remember back in
the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.

I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
days.

On Oct 3, 11:22 pm, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
> all??

Define "this usenet."

> Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan.

Hey, appreciate the nod and all, but I feel special even *without*
attention from you, Nony. ;o)

> I remember back in the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding
> was a big deal for a lot of people. It was a dream that anyone could
> attain.
>
> I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
> person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
> days.

It will always be a "freak sport," imo. Although it might be
interesting to see pro bodybuilding match the popularity of the NFL or
the NBA, it's not necessary for my enjoyment. I'll love the sport
regardless of anyone else's interest or disinterest.

Gyms on every corner versus the corner bar wouldn't be a bad thing,
though. When I recently purchased "Animal Cuts" I told the clerk, "A
fool and his money... but it's better this than beer and cigarettes."

Plus, you seem interested enough. To wit:

Mr. and Ms. Olympia predictions for 2008:
Dennis Wolf reaches the number 3 spot, Jay Cutler loses in a close
match to Victor Martinez!
Iris Kyle maintains her title followed by Yaxeni Oriquen as the fans
go wild.

--
Curt

On Oct 3, 11:22 pm, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
> all?? Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan. I remember back in
> the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
> people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.
>
> I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
> person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
> days.



As much as I would like to agree, I don't think it's steroids, but
gays. Bodybuilding is pretty embarrassing for a straight guy, 'cause
the bodybuilding mags seem to cater to teenage and old fags -- yes,
the really young and the really old.

So yes, it's now been relegated back to the traveling carnival stuff.
I mean, earrings, noserings, tattoos, pink tank tops, striped tight
shorts...how wacky is that shit? Looks like spillover from the Star
Trek convention next door....

Historically, it appears that bodybuilding became a big deal in the
'70s and '80s due to the self-improvement/self-growth ethos of that
time...and also, folks didn't know that it wasn't simply a matter of
lifting weights (genetics had ~85% to do with progress)...and, let's
face it, it was a gay liberation kind of thing as well...not to
mention just something new, really...so all those factors, which are
no more, made for a very high level of enthusiasm unlikely to be
encountered for another decade or two....

On Oct 4, 11:22 am, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
> all??

I do... We still do... it's just that some here are too old enough to
care about the new things on the sport.. Their idols like frank zane
and sergio oliva had ben quiet for a long time living their normal
lives whihc made these fans forget the lovable bodybuilding..
hehehehe

nah... Don't worry bro... there's plenty of us here.... bodybuilding
will always be in our hearts... Awwww!


>Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan.

Yeah, I saw him with a pro in the bodybuilding.com forum pics...
hehehe



>I remember back in
> the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
> people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.

It still is... we can attain it without those damn drugs...

Now, Robert STFU... I don't intend to call you on that...

Drugs or not... You're a great 4 placer competitor...

=)

sheesssshhhh


> I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
> person.


Yeah!


Most people now... when they see a guy with huge guns says it's
nothing but steroids... Poor them... But indeed steroid had been that
stupid trend that destroyed bodybuilding...

Wanna see pregnant guys?

--
Watch a bodybuilding show...


> It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
> days.

Yeah...


Anyways, Hope dennis wolf destroy the game next year...

Kill the Jay The fridge cutler!


-Cy

On Oct 4, 9:54 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 3, 11:22 pm, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
> > all?? Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan. I remember back in
> > the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
> > people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.
>
> > I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
> > person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
> > days.
>
> As much as I would like to agree, I don't think it's steroids, but
> gays. Bodybuilding is pretty embarrassing for a straight guy, 'cause
> the bodybuilding mags seem to cater to teenage and old fags -- yes,
> the really young and the really old.
>
> So yes, it's now been relegated back to the traveling carnival stuff.
> I mean, earrings, noserings, tattoos, pink tank tops, striped tight
> shorts...how wacky is that shit? Looks like spillover from the Star
> Trek convention next door....
>
> Historically, it appears that bodybuilding became a big deal in the
> '70s and '80s due to the self-improvement/self-growth ethos of that
> time...and also, folks didn't know that it wasn't simply a matter of
> lifting weights (genetics had ~85% to do with progress)...and, let's
> face it, it was a gay liberation kind of thing as well...not to
> mention just something new, really...so all those factors, which are
> no more, made for a very high level of enthusiasm unlikely to be
> encountered for another decade or two....

PaW, you've cemented yourself as an idiot with this post. Nothing out
of the ordinary for you, of course. The Olympia was *sold out* this
year and I suspect the ticket purchasers were comprised of more than
simply very young and very old homosexuals. Kindly pull your head out
of your homophobic ass prior to posting again. Thank you.

--
Curt

On Oct 4, 10:46 am, CyRuS <sweet_rusk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 4, 11:22 am, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
> > all??
>
> I do... We still do... it's just that some here are too old enough to
> care about the new things on the sport.. Their idols like frank zane
> and sergio oliva had ben quiet for a long time living their normal
> lives whihc made these fans forget the lovable bodybuilding..
> hehehehe

Afaik, Zane is still making at least part of his living from Zane
Haven and appearances, etc. related to bodybuilding. And Sergio has
been seen at shows, too, iirc. Dave Draper and his wife run a
sensational website - http://www.davedraper.com/ - but the new or
current bodybuilders have a lot of fans as well, obviously.

> nah... Don't worry bro... there's plenty of us here.... bodybuilding
> will always be in our hearts... Awwww!
>
> >Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan.
>
> Yeah, I saw him with a pro in the bodybuilding.com forum pics...
> hehehe

Cool. Any pics on bodybuilding.com forums would have to be from the
Atlantic City Pro show. Photos with Chris Cormier, Troy Alves, and
Yaxeni Oriquen. And also met Leon Brown who you may be familiar with
from the book Pumping Iron. AC was a fantastic show and my first pro
show since the 1992 Arnold Classic. This weekend I'll be attending a
NABBA show in the Harrisburg area.

[...]

> Most people now... when they see a guy with huge guns says it's
> nothing but steroids... Poor them... But indeed steroid had been that
> stupid trend that destroyed bodybuilding...

I disagree, fwiw. Steroids and other drugs increased the freaky look
which some find appealing. Again, fwiw, I would be happy to return to
the days before things got out of hand. Jim Haislop (
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=jim+haislop&g=M aka
http://tinyurl.com/ysfwky ) is one of my favorite all time
bodybuilders and I doubt he ever took a fraction of the drugs today's
bodybuilders use. On the female side, certainly Claudia Montemaggi is
not someone I'd point to as a mass monster, but she was a true
bodybuilder with incredible sex appeal as well as a dynamite posing
routine. Check out the previously posted YouTube video of her one Ms.
Olympia appearance.

> Wanna see pregnant guys?
>
<snip>
> Watch a bodybuilding show...
>
> > It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
> > days.
>
> Yeah...
>
> Anyways, Hope dennis wolf destroy the game next year...
>
> Kill the Jay The fridge cutler!
>
> -Cy

Wolf did destroy the competition. Sad that the judges didn't see it
that way.

--
Curt

"Curt" <The Olympia was *sold out* this year and I suspect the ticket
purchasers were comprised of more than simply very young and very old
homosexuals. >
> --

There were also the middle-aged homos. You went, so it does not help your
claim that bodybuilding is not just for gays. Shue is another fan, and so am
I. Not a straight fan in the whole house...!

On Oct 4, 6:42 pm, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]

> Bodybuilding needs competition and excitement. That only comes if different
> people win. Look at World's Strongest Man contests. Same guy has won a few
> times. Sometimes loses and then comes back the next year. Nobody has won it
> more than 3 or 4 times total. That makes it more exciting and entertaining
> to watch.

Bullshit. Bodybuilding needs fewer "fans" like you. ;o)

--
Curt

"CyRuS" <> Wanna see pregnant guys? Watch a bodybuilding show..Anyways, Hope
dennis wolf destroy the game next year...
>

Bodybuilding needs competition and excitement. That only comes if different
people win. Look at World's Strongest Man contests. Same guy has won a few
times. Sometimes loses and then comes back the next year. Nobody has won it
more than 3 or 4 times total. That makes it more exciting and entertaining
to watch.

On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Curt" <The Olympia was *sold out* this year and I suspect the ticket
> purchasers were comprised of more than simply very young and very old
> homosexuals. >
>
>
> There were also the middle-aged homos.

Point Moose. Funny, but incorrect, however.

> You went,

I "went" courtesy of the webcast.

> so it does not help your claim that bodybuilding is not
> just for gays.

I made no such claim. All I remember saying is that I'm a fan. But
certainly bodybuilding has heterosexual fans. I count myself in that
demographic even if that may disappoint you.

> Shue is another fan, and so am I. Not a straight fan in the
> whole house...!

Even if your ludicrous comment was true, what difference would that
make unless you were putting the moves on one of the aformentioned
fans?

--
Curt

"Curt" <> Bullshit. Bodybuilding needs fewer "fans" like you. ;o)
>

So you think that these endless dynasties (Haney, Yates, Coleman-represent
24 years of Mr. Olympia winners) create excitement for the casual fan? I
consider myself a casual fan, since I only look at the contest results about
twice a year (Arnold & Mr. O). I find the lack of variety of champions to be
fucking boring.

At least when there was Mr. Universe, Mr. World, Mr. America, etc., there
were different guys winning the contests, and they each had a certain amount
of lore and standing. Now it is just the Mr. O, the Arnold and the bullshit
Grand Prix fagfests where the Mr. O gets to make a few extra bucks by
winning a couple of contests the week after the Mr. O.

"Curt" <> Even if your ludicrous comment was true, what difference would
that
> make unless you were putting the moves on one of the aformentioned
> fans?
>

Aside from your occasional paranoia, I imagine that it would be fun to hang
out with you at a bodybuilding show if I had enough money to buy a lot of
crap and a round of drinks.

Anyhow, you want to believe in Roid Freaks and if that makes you happy, good
for you. I think Frank Zane and the Mentzers and those kind of bodybuilders
were motivating to people because they represented a standard that could be
achieved to some degree without steroids.

That is my opinion, you enjoy life with yours.

On Oct 4, 7:14 pm, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Curt" <> Bullshit. Bodybuilding needs fewer "fans" like you. ;o)
>
> So you think that these endless dynasties (Haney, Yates, Coleman-represent
> 24 years of Mr. Olympia winners) create excitement for the casual fan?

The what?

> I consider myself a casual fan, since I only look at the contest results about
> twice a year (Arnold & Mr. O). I find the lack of variety of champions to be
> [expletive deleted] boring.

Perhaps you're boring. I take it you've never attended a show.

> At least when there was Mr. Universe, Mr. World, Mr. America, etc., there
> were different guys winning the contests, and they each had a certain amount
> of lore and standing.

Did you read that in a magazine?

> Now it is just the Mr. O, the Arnold and the bullshit Grand Prix
> <snip> where the Mr. O gets to make a few extra bucks by
> winning a couple of contests the week after the Mr. O.

Whatever. Your opinion means less and less.

Attend a show. Leave a few minutes before they announce the winners.
Hth.

--
Curt urt

On Oct 4, 9:13 pm, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Curt" <> Even if your ludicrous comment was true, what difference would
> that make unless you were putting the moves on one of the aformentioned
> > fans?
>
> Aside from your occasional paranoia, I imagine that it would be fun to hang
> out with you at a bodybuilding show if I had enough money to buy a lot of
> crap and a round of drinks.
>
> Anyhow, you want to believe in Roid Freaks and if that makes you happy, good
> for you. I think Frank Zane and the Mentzers and those kind of bodybuilders
> were motivating to people because they represented a standard that could be
> achieved to some degree without steroids.
>
> That is my opinion, you enjoy life with yours.

Moose, are you kidding me? You're bunching Mentzer and Zane together?
That's more of a "Which does not belong?" comparison, imo. Zane
weighed 160 and Mentzer tipped the scale at 250 in 1980.. Whatever.
I'm sure those numbers are wrong, but probably not THAT far off base.
By contrast, your idea that Mentzer's physique "represented a standard
that could be achieved to some degree wthout steroids," is absolutely
ludicrous. Wait, perhaps I should allow you to define "to some
degree."

--
Curt

"Curt" <> Did you read that in a magazine?
>

You really are a dense and patronizing little cunt, and it is very typical
of what a public school teacher would be. You get to talk down to the little
kids, and none of them has come back to fuck you up because you are such a
pathetic little douchebag faggot that you don't register any effect on their
lives.

Here you are in the only place where you stand out, and you are recognized
primarily as a troll. Now what kind of lower life form watches a
bodybuilding show on streaming internet? You give some incredibly glowing
review of something that you never attended, and you want to tell everyone
how great bodybuilding is doing in spite of the fact that the most important
show in the sport is being shown for free on streaming video because nobody
will buy it, and because nobody will put it on any cable channel, not even
ESPN 7.

Everything you say is what I would expect from a typical middle-aged second
grade school teacher. A fucking failed asshole who can rule over small
children and tell them how homosexuality is OK and that the crazy kid with
the two dads is a perfect example of the modern family. Stop denying that
you suck dick and take it up the ass. Everyone knows you are a homo. Even
the fucking little kids in your classrooms call you Cocksucker Curt. Your
fellow teachers laugh at your nipple clips and your hopelessly faggot look.

If your photos represent how you look in school, then you must be the school
loony. Every school has one or two of those wacko faggot teachers with the
limp wrist and the lilting walk who claims to be a kung-fu expert or some
other crazy shit. You probably tell the kids that you won Mr. Santa Monica
back in 1989, and that Robert Shue came in third place. I wonder how many
kids you have molested.

Bodybuilding is all about the homos. Straight guys who are into
physical fitness have been crowded out by the faggots the way
skinheads started out as whiteboys into Jamaican music, then got co-
opted by white supremacy and shit. Or anti-Semites taking over
Communist parties in Europe, or big business taking over the Democrats
here -- etc. Same process of the freaks taking over. That's why
bodybuilding has become quite the traveling circus. And that's okay
-- mainstream America needs its Dionysian distractions, to be sure --
but I'm just telling it like it is.

Curt, you're just another one of these clueless liberals who live
bland lives in Pleasantville, U.S.A., and think homos and such add
something interesting to your TV sitcom lives. But just don't pretend
you actually know one thing about gays, Jews, blacks, hispanics, or
anyone else other than Mr. and Mrs. Main Street, U.S.A. You're the
one who sounds like an idiot, spouting the liberal party line every
chance you get.



On Oct 4, 6:27 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> PaW, you've cemented yourself as an idiot with this post. Nothing out
> of the ordinary for you, of course. The Olympia was *sold out* this
> year and I suspect the ticket purchasers were comprised of more than
> simply very young and very old homosexuals. Kindly pull your head out
> of your homophobic ass prior to posting again. Thank you.
>
> --
> Curt

On Oct 4, 11:32 pm, "Anonymoose" <ananym...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> You really are a dense and patronizing little cunt, and it is very typical
> of what a public school teacher would be. You get to talk down to the little
> kids, and none of them has come back to fuck you up because you are such a
> pathetic little douchebag faggot that you don't register any effect on their
> lives.

I wouldn't mind being a teacher, but I do think that too many teachers
think themselves "intelligent" when they're merely "capable."
Certainly the education majors I met in college were nowhere near the
brightest around, though most of them were fairly nice girls.

> Here you are in the only place where you stand out, and you are recognized
> primarily as a troll.

Well, I'd say that usenet is just one giant global bathroom wall and
all us scribes mere trolls, though to varying degrees....

> Now what kind of lower life form watches a
> bodybuilding show on streaming internet? You give some incredibly glowing
> review of something that you never attended, and you want to tell everyone
> how great bodybuilding is doing in spite of the fact that the most important
> show in the sport is being shown for free on streaming video because nobody
> will buy it, and because nobody will put it on any cable channel, not even
> ESPN 7.

Funny, I'd never thought of it that way. I have wondered, however,
who the hell watches streaming movies like what some companies
offer...heck, for that matter, I don't understand who the heck would
watch TV shows downloaded to their iPods...the world is really getting
stupider and stupider with each new invention; it's becoming like a
Douglas Adams parody....

> Everything you say is what I would expect from a typical middle-aged second
> grade school teacher. A fucking failed asshole who can rule over small
> children and tell them how homosexuality is OK and that the crazy kid with
> the two dads is a perfect example of the modern family.

God damn, here in Jew York, you see that shit a lot. I saw a real
ghetto thug type of character the other day, and thought it was just a
weird faggy-looking wimp of a guy, until it opened its mouth: it was a
short lil' skinny bull dyke spic chick! And OMG, she was with a
fairly hot looking mamacita (an 8 out 10, I'd say) and that girl's
kid, and the kid called the lesbo butch "daddy"...and this bull dyke
had the nastiest attitude, nasty like Rose O'Donnell, I really felt
sorry for the kid, it was straight out of Jerry Springersville, a dumb
clueless mom with a teeny-bopper's voice, a bull dyke shorter than her
who looked like a badly drawn caricature of ghetto wildlife, and a
white-looking kid (these hispanics are weird like that) who had to
call the lesbo butch "daddy" when asking for something to drink (which
this "daddy" refused 'cause the kid had been "bad" because he was
restless like a normal kid and couldn't sit still, even though the kid
wasn't screaming or running around or throwing food, just not sitting
still and proper...sheesh...)....

I know it's about class, but I couldn't help but be repulsed by the
image before me...I was in a KFC and the mamicita actually sat right
next to me despite it being empty, forcing the butch to follow suit,
who had been sitting elsewhere initially...so it was weird, 'cause I
see this in NYC a lot, hot or at least decent-looking latinas with
really gross-looking lesbo bull dykes...it's just repulsive, I
literally felt the kind of feeling you get when you see rats scurrying
in the NYC subway tracks.

I just find most gays disgusting. I can relate to them as human
beings, but it's like an otherwise normal person constantly picking
his nose when you're having a conversation. Distracting, to say the
least.

> Stop denying that
> you suck dick and take it up the ass. Everyone knows you are a homo. Even
> the fucking little kids in your classrooms call you Cocksucker Curt. Your
> fellow teachers laugh at your nipple clips and your hopelessly faggot look.

I had a gay high school teacher who turned out to be a neighbor down
the street! He read classics at Oxford on scholarship...ran the
corner grocery store as a kid with his pops (back then they were all
Italian)...funny thing was, even though he's supposed to teach
English, he always managed to work in homosexuality in ancient Greece
as well as communism...but it was a great learning experience; I
actually never heard of homosexuals until then, and really didn't know
anything about communism. So this funny short fat middle-aged NYC
Italian English teacher with his M.A. from Oxford in the Classics was
a real Hillcrest High School character...we also had another guy, not
gay, but also a Hillcrest character, a Marine Corps reservist who
would go around the school every St. Pat's playing the bagpipes in
full regalia...in middle school we also had characters...I don't think
there's ever a "normal" public school teacher, is there?? Even today,
I see NYC public school teachers with tattoos and tongue
piercings...funny....

> If your photos represent how you look in school, then you must be the school
> loony. Every school has one or two of those wacko faggot teachers with the
> limp wrist and the lilting walk who claims to be a kung-fu expert or some
> other crazy shit.

I thought that was only in Jew York! A high school science fiction
club pal was always trying out karate and kung-fu moves on us...he
wound up being an art teacher and then a dean at our old high school,
showing kids karate and wrestling moves!

> You probably tell the kids that you won Mr. Santa Monica
> back in 1989, and that Robert Shue came in third place. I wonder how many
> kids you have molested.

You know, I think kids should be able to fuck their teachers if they
want. I think there was at least one pretty teacher in every single
grade I've been in. I remember staring at Ms. Landesman's breasts
once, in third grade, when she bent over while facing me, and she let
me look, too, 'cause when she saw the shocked look in my face -- "what
are those?!?!" -- she smiled and just let me keep staring...too bad I
didn't have the presence of mind to grab her tits. You know, I think
most of the female teachers I've liked would have let me done
something like that (provided it's in private, of course). I was
always the teacher's pet, particularly female teachers. Even in
college.

I think I took a wrong turn somewhere in life. Should have started
weightlifting earlier, too.

On Oct 4, 11:32 pm, "Anonymoose" <ananym...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Curt" <> Did you read that in a magazine?
>
> You really are a dense and patronizing little cunt,

That's cuRt, Nony. Spelling not your strength, eh?

> and it is very typical of what a public school teacher would be.

Apparently your strength is pigeonholing.

> You get to talk down to the little kids,

Not happening. I speak to my students with respect. You, however, are
not my student. You're not one of my constituents. You are not under
the protection of the educator-student relationship. You are a patron
of a Usenet newsgroup and as such you get what you get and if you
don't like the posts you read then you can cry and whine (as you have
done, imo), reply reasonably, or ignore the aforementioned posts.

It's quite simple, really. You might consider that patronizing as
well, but it's the truth. Again, my opinion.

> and none of them has come back to fuck you up

You've obviously never taught in a city school, Moose. I know third
graders with more spine than you seem to have.

> because you are such a pathetic little douchebag faggot

More creative namecalling skills as well.

> that you don't register any effect on their lives.

I've been teaching full-time for nearly five years and I'm always
happy to see my first students show up for a visit. Students have
stopped me in the street, not to eff me up but to offer something
like, "I still have that picture you drew me." What effect does anyone
have on someone else's life? I try. And, imo, I succeed whether we're
getting along here or not.

> Here you are in the only place where you stand out,

Believe what you want, my anonymous malcontent.

> and you are recognized primarily as a troll.

Some would like people to believe that, of course.

I won't mention names, of course...

http://www.rustyiron.net/trollist.htm

> Now what kind of lower life form watches a bodybuilding show on
> streaming internet?

Interesting question. Why don't you post that one to a forum over at
BodySpace? http://www.bodyspace.com/

> You give some incredibly glowing review of something that you never
> attended,

Whereas you want to roundly dismiss the same event after having never
attended? Or have you attended the Olympia competitions? I haven't
been to the O, however I've been to four Arnold Classics. I'd say
that's a near equivalent and ample basis for offering an informed
"incredibly glowing review" of a professional bodybuilding competition
as an entertaining and exciting event.

> and you want to tell everyone how great bodybuilding is doing in spite of
> the fact that the most important show in the sport is being shown for free
> on streaming video because nobody will buy it, and because nobody will
> put it on any cable channel, not even ESPN 7.

There was some discussion re that and there are some who believe that
the steroid issue has put the kibosh on promoting bodybuilding via
ESPN and the like. Iirc, the 1980 Olympa shot a hole in the foot of
broadcasting the event, too.

> Everything you say is what I would expect from a typical middle-aged second
> grade school teacher.

K-6, actually, or did you mean second rate? Hey, I'm not patronizing
you as much as trying to help you to communicate clearly.

> A fucking failed asshole

>From your fearsome response, well, I'd say I'm rather successful at
being an asshole. ;o)

> who can rule over small children

HA! Again, you have not been in a classroom recently. There is no
"rule over" going on. It's cooperation based on mutual respect and a
developed rapport. Go ahead and try your perceived "Iron Fist"
technique and see how far you get before you're up to your neck in
revolt. Did you say something about offering a glowing review without
any firsthand experience?

> and tell them how homosexuality is OK

That subject is most definitely a part of my lesson plans.

> and that the crazy kid with the two dads is a perfect example of
> the modern family.

Otoh, responding to your idiotic statements, however, is something
that is certainly a part of my Usenet curriculum. To wit: Crazy in
what way? And do you think that having two caring adults raising a
child in a loving home environment would be a negative circumstance?

> Stop denying that you suck dick and take it up the ass. Everyone knows
> you are a homo.

I'm not sure I've ever denied anything along that line of
conversation, however I assure you that you're barking up the wrong
tree if you're looking to me for a date, Nony. Kim Basinger can call
immediately, however. Operators are standing by!

> Even the fucking little kids in your classrooms call you
> Cocksucker Curt.

You're all worked up. Curious what set you off. Do you not like being
disputed? Was it because I stated you might be boring? Is this you
making up for the ZZZ-inducing posts you've offered so far? From my
perspective at least, you're not making up any ground.

> Your fellow teachers laugh at your nipple clips

Clips? They were piercings and they've since been retired. I never
advertised that fact to my co-workers and I doubt anyone was aware of
them.

My earlobes solicit questions, but I've never heard laughter. Some
students think they're cool while other students think they're gross.

> and your hopelessly faggot look.

Better a "hopelessly faggot look" than a hopelessly poor attitude and
inability to handle criticism. Good luck with that.

> If your photos

The one on what'shisface's list? I like that shot, actually.

> represent how you look in school, then you must be the school
> loony. <snip>

Anything else? Here's another "loony" pic for your scrapbook:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...om/mrjames.jpg

--
Curt

"Prisoner at War" <> I think I took a wrong turn somewhere in life. Should
have started weightlifting earlier, too.
>
>

As long as you aren't a homo like Curt or Shue, there is always hope for
you. Keep lifting weights and working out and doing cardio. Your self-esteem
will improve and success will follow. Just avoid Curt and Shue.

"Anonymoose" <anonymoose@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
>all?? Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan. I remember back in
>the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
>people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.
>
>I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
>person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
>days.

Why do some people find it so difficult to lift weights for
self-improvement without a bunch of fanboy muscle worship?

On Oct 6, 12:24 am, JMW <jmwilli...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
> >all?? Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan. I remember back in
> >the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
> >people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.
>
> >I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
> >person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
> >days.
>
> Why do some people find it so difficult to lift weights for
> self-improvement without a bunch of fanboy muscle worship?

What's wrong with combining the two?

A better question:

Who invited you to the party, John?

I mean, you have me listed on your troll list and it seems obvious
that Moose was directing his post in my direction. Note "Curt seems to
be the only one who is a serious fan." Therefore I'd call your
behavior that of a, what was the word you used to describe it? Ah,
yes, of course, conduit.

Please place yourself on one of Forté Agent's 'timed killfiles' at
your earliest convenience. Thank you!

--
Curt

"JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
news:nd3eg3h89fqcca6r81626d8ovlkm9nc6rt@4ax.com...
> "Anonymoose" <anonymoose@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
>>all?? Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan. I remember back
>>in
>>the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
>>people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.
>>
>>I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
>>person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
>>days.
>
> Why do some people find it so difficult to lift weights for
> self-improvement without a bunch of fanboy muscle worship?

John,
What this moron doesn't get is that every bodybuilder back in the 70s etc.
would be taking the same drugs that the guys are today. Arnold's drive was
the same, if not more so than the guys today. They simply have newer and
more advanced drugs to use. Times change. This guy sounds like all the
assholes in music who sit around and want to hear big band music again.
Bodybuilding is different today. Football is different today. Formula One is
different today. It's 2007, deal with it. This is the same kind of moron who
actually thinks Joe Weider has a say in who wins the Olympia. I sat in Joe
Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90% of the
bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.



--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Hard Bop Drums" <I sat in Joe Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He
had no clue then who 90% of the bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he
is even more clueless.
>

So who was picking the winners back then? Who appoints the judges? Who
controls the contest?

On Oct 9, 3:02 am, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
> "JMW" <jmwilli...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
>
> news:nd3eg3h89fqcca6r81626d8ovlkm9nc6rt@4ax.com...
>
> > "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Just curious, does anyone on this usenet care or follow bodybuilding at
> >>all?? Curt seems to be the only one who is a serious fan. I remember back
> >>in
> >>the 1970s after Pumping Iron that bodybuilding was a big deal for a lot of
> >>people. It was a dream that anyone could attain.
>
> >>I think steroids has destroyed interest in bodybuilding for the average
> >>person. It is back to being a freak sport like it used to be in the old
> >>days.
>
> > Why do some people find it so difficult to lift weights for
> > self-improvement without a bunch of fanboy muscle worship?
>
> John,
> What this moron doesn't get is that every bodybuilder back in the 70s etc.
> would be taking the same drugs that the guys are today. Arnold's drive was
> the same, if not more so than the guys today. They simply have newer and
> more advanced drugs to use. Times change. This guy sounds like all the
> assholes in music who sit around and want to hear big band music again.
> Bodybuilding is different today. Football is different today. Formula One is
> different today. It's 2007, deal with it. This is the same kind of moron who
> actually thinks Joe Weider has a say in who wins the Olympia. I sat in Joe
> Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90% of the
> bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.
>

I sat in Joe
Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90%
of the
bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.


I sat in Joe
Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90%
of the
bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.


I sat in Joe
Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90%
of the
bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.

How many times have I seen this statement from you robie?

We're not little kids hear to forget that you placed at a bodybuilding
show and have "once" talked with the master blaster himself.. For an
old guy, yo usounded like a new pirated cd.

I'll tell you I got a friend who was screwed by joe wieder before he
would even step for a pro card or worse compete on a good show because
he never wanted to be a weider athlete.


Facts:

How about Mr. Nubret's statements against the weider empire?

Sergio's statement against the weider bullshits? He even said that
all weider knows is how to break backs and injure pros.

How about that Mr. Padilla screw show during the pumping iron days?



clueless, yeah.. you are clueless...


get a life..


the only reason why you're fucking this guy's ass is because he
mentioned the word "steroid" which makes you incredible hulk ready to
defend the great drug...


hay.....


cy


> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"CyRuS" <> How about Mr. Nubret's statements against the weider empire?
> Sergio's statement against the weider bullshits? He even said that
> all weider knows is how to break backs and injure pros. How about that Mr.
Padilla screw show during the pumping iron days?
>

I think Weider has been in it for greed mostly. He has single-handedly (that
is, with brother Ben) done everything possible to kill every other
bodybuilding organization, and how much has that helped bodybuilding?? His
vendettas against those that compete in other shows are well known. How fair
is a Weider contest when Joe was never running it as a sport, but strictly
business??

On Oct 9, 7:06 pm, "Anonymoose" <ananym...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "CyRuS" <> How about Mr. Nubret's statements against the weider empire?
> Sergio's statement against the weider bullshits? He even said that
> > all weider knows is how to break backs and injure pros. How about
> > that Mr. Padilla screw show during the pumping iron days?
>
> I think Weider has been in it for greed mostly.

Like any other businessman is a member of the Group Hug Committee.
Donald Trump much? Anonymoose, you're FIRED!

> He has single-handedly (that is, with brother Ben) done everything
> possible to kill every other bodybuilding organization, and how much
> has that helped bodybuilding??

It's almost a question without an answer. What would have happened if
Ben and Joe hadn't promoted the IFBB and its contests? What if Joe
hadn't paid Arnold's airfare and provided him with a beat up VW and
the crappy apartment? Not to mention a small allowance. Would Arnold
have reached his same level of success? My guess is yes. I can't see
how Arnold would have been stopped, BUT if there had been no IFBB?
What then? The WBBG or the AAU would have been the platform for
Arnold's "world domination"? I doubt it.

So, to answer your unanswerable question, A LOT! Weiders crushing
their competition (To see their enemies driven before them. And to
hear the lamentations of their women...) made it possible for Arnold,
Sergio, Larry Scott, et al., to each become part of bodybuilding
history. Two cents, opinion, yadayada.

> His vendettas against those that compete in other shows are
> well known. How fair is a Weider contest when Joe was never
> running it as a sport, but strictly business??

Ahh, boo hoo. It is a business. And it's a sport. Yet it's an art form
and more. Fair schmair. Weider made bodybuilding what it is whether
you like it or not, whether you think it's faaaaair or not. Bellyache
and b!tch all you want, but stop and give thanks while you're cryin',
okay?

--
Curt

On Oct 9, 10:49 am, CyRuS <sweet_rusk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]

re 'bert

> I sat in Joe
> Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90%
> of the
> bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.
>
> I sat in Joe
> Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90%
> of the
> bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.
>
> I sat in Joe
> Weider's office well over 20 years ago. He had no clue then who 90%
> of the
> bodybuilders were. I'm guess that today, he is even more clueless.
>
> How many times have I seen this statement from you robie?

This statement and others, of course. He does appear to loooove
patting himself on the back. By the way, he has joints smaller than
Jackie P's, as a teenager he trained with Mike Mentzer, and he's been
the trainer of somethingsomething. Bob's a legend in his own mind.

> We're not little kids hear to forget that you placed at a bodybuilding
> show and have "once" talked with the master blaster himself.. For an
> old guy, yo usounded like a new pirated cd.
>
> I'll tell you I got a friend who was screwed by joe wieder before he
> would even step for a pro card or worse compete on a good show because
> he never wanted to be a weider athlete.
>
> Facts:
>
> How about Mr. Nubret's statements against the weider empire?

Nubret has a valid complaint.

> Sergio's statement against the weider bullshits?

Sergio, too.

> He even said that all weider knows is how to break backs and injure pros.
>
> How about that Mr. Padilla screw show during the pumping iron days?

The '81 Olympia is a sad note in bodybuilding history, imo. And
although I would have picked Arnold in '80, I would have preferred he
would NOT have competed that year. Just disrespect to the other
competitors.

> clueless, yeah.. you are clueless...
>
> get a life..

[...]

Plus I'm sure he has a life. He's just a discontented sh!t on Usenet.
For the most part, imo.

--
Curt

I scribbled:
> On Oct 9, 10:49 am, CyRuS <sweet_rusk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> > How about that Mr. Padilla screw show during the pumping iron days?
>
> The '81 Olympia is a sad note in bodybuilding histo<snip>

And check out http://www.dannypadilla.com/ for the aforementioned "Mr.
Padilla screw show during the pumping iron days," as well. That is if
CyRuS was talking about his representing Portugal during the filming.
There's a link somewhere on his site to his PBW interview where Danny
tells the tale!

--
Curt