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Old 08-10-2007, 04:58 AM
Zen Cohen
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Default Bodyweight-plus pullups

When I waddled back into the gym last year after a long layoff, the first
thing I forced myself to do at the beginning of every workout as
self-inflicted punishment for getting fat was pullups. In my best shape 15
yrs ago at 165lbs and approx 7% BF, I could do 13 to 15 (IIRC). At age 48,
220 lbs and 30+% BF I could do one and get a little ways toward the second.
I'm now 176 lbs, about 16% BF and can do maybe 9 with decent form. After
hearing talk here about bodyweight-plus pullups (and seeing JMW's vid) I
stuck a 35-lb dumbell btwn my knees the other day and did about 3.5.
Definitely heading in the right direction but it's going slowly.

Given that, what is a good program toward upping my max reps of BW pullups
(would be nice to do 15 again) and a single max of BW plus whatever I can
build up to. JMW's 106 seems pretty out of reach for the moment but it's a
nice goal to shoot for.

Also, would be nice for this NG to get back to being more about weights and
fitness and less trash. I have had a resurgence of health in the last year
in large part because I got back in the gym, and I've gleaned some useful
stuff from this group. Usenet is a great medium but sadly it seems to be
dying a slow death because of all the noise and spam.


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Old 08-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Steve Freides
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"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> When I waddled back into the gym last year after a long layoff, the
> first thing I forced myself to do at the beginning of every workout as
> self-inflicted punishment for getting fat was pullups. In my best
> shape 15 yrs ago at 165lbs and approx 7% BF, I could do 13 to 15
> (IIRC). At age 48, 220 lbs and 30+% BF I could do one and get a little
> ways toward the second. I'm now 176 lbs, about 16% BF and can do maybe
> 9 with decent form. After hearing talk here about bodyweight-plus
> pullups (and seeing JMW's vid) I stuck a 35-lb dumbell btwn my knees
> the other day and did about 3.5. Definitely heading in the right
> direction but it's going slowly.
>
> Given that, what is a good program toward upping my max reps of BW
> pullups (would be nice to do 15 again) and a single max of BW plus
> whatever I can build up to. JMW's 106 seems pretty out of reach for
> the moment but it's a nice goal to shoot for.
>
> Also, would be nice for this NG to get back to being more about
> weights and fitness and less trash. I have had a resurgence of health
> in the last year in large part because I got back in the gym, and I've
> gleaned some useful stuff from this group. Usenet is a great medium
> but sadly it seems to be dying a slow death because of all the noise
> and spam.


1RM and max reps w/ bodyweight are somewhat contradictory. Although
it's possible to work on them both, and sometimes by working on one the
other goes up, you might try focusing on one or the other for a cycle or
even a few cycles before switching your focus again. I am _not_
following my own advice at this point but I'm pretty good at pullups,
anyway, and seem to be able to get away with it, at least somewhat - I
might make progress on both fronts but probably not as much progress as
if I focused on one for a while and then the other.

The other things to mention is that varying the grip seems to work well
for a lot of people. Do some w/ chinup grip, some thumbless pullup
grip. Try towel pullups (one or two towels over the bar, grab the towel
instead of the bar), try also weighted w/ dipping belt because it's
harder than holding a db between your feet (the db between the feet
gives you something to push against), also try a weighted vest if you
have one (harder than weight on a dipping belt). One armed where you
grab your wrist is also good - you still get two arms to pull with and
you can increase the difficult by grabbing lower.

Just my opinion, hope that's of some help to you.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


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Old 08-14-2007, 10:00 AM
Shava_X
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:41:11 -0700, Zen Cohen wrote:

> When I waddled back into the gym last year after a long layoff, the first
> thing I forced myself to do at the beginning of every workout as
> self-inflicted punishment for getting fat was pullups. In my best shape 15
> yrs ago at 165lbs and approx 7% BF, I could do 13 to 15 (IIRC). At age 48,
> 220 lbs and 30+% BF I could do one and get a little ways toward the second.
> I'm now 176 lbs, about 16% BF and can do maybe 9 with decent form. After
> hearing talk here about bodyweight-plus pullups (and seeing JMW's vid) I
> stuck a 35-lb dumbell btwn my knees the other day and did about 3.5.
> Definitely heading in the right direction but it's going slowly.
>
> Given that, what is a good program toward upping my max reps of BW pullups
> (would be nice to do 15 again) and a single max of BW plus whatever I can
> build up to. JMW's 106 seems pretty out of reach for the moment but it's a
> nice goal to shoot for.
>
> Also, would be nice for this NG to get back to being more about weights and
> fitness and less trash. I have had a resurgence of health in the last year
> in large part because I got back in the gym, and I've gleaned some useful
> stuff from this group. Usenet is a great medium but sadly it seems to be
> dying a slow death because of all the noise and spam.



Here is one workout specifically intended to increase the number of
dead-hang body weight pull-ups a person can do, to get them to at least 20
reps :
http://www.oo-rah.com/Store/pt/pt0830.asp

Another option, one that can be done instead of that or in addition to it,
is Pavel's "Grease the Groove" (GTG) method. Get a door mount or some
other type of pull-up bar for Your home. Put it some where where You will
go by it several times a day. Every time You pass it, to 5 - 10 pull ups.
Numerous Marines have claimed great results with this method. Pavel's
Father-In-Law used it and end up being able to do more pull-ups in His 50s
than when He was 20-something Marine. You can read more about this method
in some of Pavel's books, like The Naked Warrior (ISBN 0938045555), or at
the Dragon Door web site:
http://www.dragondoor.com/

A specific article at Dragon Door focusing on increasing reps for pull-ups
with the GTG method can be read here :
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/220/



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