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Old 11-09-2006, 09:30 AM
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qddgxqhrxjjt wrote:

> Why 98% Of People Who Start A Muscle-Building Program Will Never See
> Any Significant Results... And How You Can Avoid These Fatal Pitfalls
> And Finally Make The Gains You Deserve.
> With The Proper Knowledge And Motivation To Succeed,
> Anyone Can Achieve A Ripped, Muscular Physique.
> That's correct, anyone. If you don't believe that you are capable of <snip>


Say, is qddgxqhrxjjt a Russian surname? Bulgarian would be cool, too.
I've heard that country really knows its weights.

Just wondering is all. Tia!

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:30 AM
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Curt James <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
> Say, is qddgxqhrxjjt a Russian surname? Bulgarian would be cool, too.


No, Russians and Bulgarians know the meaning of "consonant", which
stands for "sounding with" (... a vowel that comes next). The habit of
stringing many consonants together comes from the habitual grinding of
the teeths because of living under the Prussian oppression for
centuries, and also from inability to hold on to the mighty country of
Ukraine.

Ask Andrbrzhj for further details :-)
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Dnia 2006-10-20 DZ napisał(a):
> Curt James <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Say, is qddgxqhrxjjt a Russian surname? Bulgarian would be cool, too.

>
> No, Russians and Bulgarians know the meaning of "consonant", which
> stands for "sounding with" (... a vowel that comes next). The habit of
> stringing many consonants together comes from the habitual grinding of
> the teeths because of living under the Prussian oppression for
> centuries, and also from inability to hold on to the mighty country of
> Ukraine.


In general, I'd say that starting a discussion about history with a Pole
might be a risky business. ;-)

> Ask Andrbrzhj for further details :-)


It ain't so bad. Rz is one sound and you pronounce it like this
letter >l< in Russian.

But Slovaks call a mole krtk. That is something impressive! Even more
impressive was the fact, that my Slovak friends could make up some
reasonable sentences without a single vowel inside. Mostly about a
mole.

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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DZ wrote:
> Curt James wrote:
> > Say, is qddgxqhrxjjt a Russian surname? Bulgarian would be cool, too.

>
> No, Russians and Bulgarians know the meaning of "consonant", which
> stands for "sounding with" (... a vowel that comes next). The habit of
> stringing many consonants together comes from the habitual grinding of
> the teeths because of living under the Prussian oppression for
> centuries, and also from inability to hold on to the mighty country of
> Ukraine.


Ah! Thank you for clearing that up.

> Ask Andrbrzhj for further details :-)


I see he's posted a follow-up. Thanks again!

Wishing you good workouts and continued success in chinning, of course.


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Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> DZ:
> > Curt James:
> >> Say, is qddgxqhrxjjt a Russian surname? Bulgarian would be cool, too.

> >
> > No, Russians and Bulgarians know the meaning of "consonant", which
> > stands for "sounding with" (... a vowel that comes next). The habit of
> > stringing many consonants together comes from the habitual grinding of
> > the teeths because of living under the Prussian oppression for
> > centuries, and also from inability to hold on to the mighty country of
> > Ukraine.

>
> In general, I'd say that starting a discussion about history with a Pole
> might be a risky business. ;-)
>
> > Ask Andrbrzhj for further details :-)

>
> It ain't so bad. Rz is one sound and you pronounce it like this
> letter >l< in Russian.


Uh, a little help here!

I normally pronounce words in my head as I read them. Kindasorta, but
not always. With the exception of Andrzej. Typically, I'll "bloop" over
your name to avoid getting dizzy. But if I was forced to take a guess,
I'd say Andre. That's wrong, eh? And it's NOT "Ander-zedge," right? So
if rz is one sound and you pronounce it like l in Russian, would your
name be pronounced Ahn-dlay? No. That's pronouncing the >l< in English?


Dammit. Would it be okay to just call you Mr. Rosa? I think I can
handle that much.

> But Slovaks call a mole krtk. That is something impressive! Even more
> impressive was the fact, that my Slovak friends could make up some
> reasonable sentences without a single vowel inside. Mostly about a
> mole.


heh )

> Andrzej Rosa 1127R


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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Dnia 2006-10-22 Curt James napisał(a):
> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>> DZ:
>>
>> > Ask Andrbrzhj for further details :-)

>>
>> It ain't so bad. Rz is one sound and you pronounce it like this
>> letter >l< in Russian.

>
> Uh, a little help here!
>
> I normally pronounce words in my head as I read them. Kindasorta, but
> not always. With the exception of Andrzej. Typically, I'll "bloop" over
> your name to avoid getting dizzy.


I had the same problem when I read my share of books about wild west.

> But if I was forced to take a guess,
> I'd say Andre. That's wrong, eh? And it's NOT "Ander-zedge," right? So
> if rz is one sound and you pronounce it like l in Russian,


Not l. I was trying to make an asci-art. It's >I<, like in >I<_EHR.

> would your
> name be pronounced Ahn-dlay? No. That's pronouncing the >l< in English?


Un-jay would be close enough, or Ahn-djay if you want to be precise.

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Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> Curt James:
> > Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >> DZ:
> >>
> >> > Ask Andrbrzhj for further details :-)
> >>
> >> It ain't so bad. Rz is one sound and you pronounce it like this
> >> letter >l< in Russian.

> >
> > Uh, a little help here!
> >
> > I normally pronounce words in my head as I read them. Kindasorta, but
> > not always. With the exception of Andrzej. Typically, I'll "bloop" over
> > your name to avoid getting dizzy.

>
> I had the same problem when I read my share of books about wild west.


True. Names are tricky in general. Words are only recognizable because
people agree on what the letters sound like or represent. And as
letters represent different things to different people at times, well,
it doesn't always work. I teach in an inner-city school and there are
many creative or unusual (to me at least) arrangements of letters.
Pronunciation can be difficult at best. I have two Ciaras in my
classroom (name changed for somethingsomething). One is Cee-air-uh
while the other is Cee-are-uh. Invariably, I mispronounce their names.
I tell my students to say, "Okay, Mister Smith!" when I mess up their
names. That way I'll know immediately that I've made an error.
Remembering and then pronouncing a name correctly is a clear sign of
respect for many. I agree with that belief and work hard to get names
right.

[...]

> > would your name be pronounced Ahn-dlay? <snip>

>
> Un-jay would be close enough, or Ahn-djay if you want
> to be precise.


Thank you.

Ahn-djay. Got it. I'll try to remember that for when I release my first
MFW podcast. ;o)

> Andrzej Rosa 1127R


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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Dnia 2006-10-22 Curt James napisał(a):
> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>> Curt James:
>> > Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>> >> DZ:
>> >>
>> >> > Ask Andrbrzhj for further details :-)
>> >>
>> >> It ain't so bad. Rz is one sound and you pronounce it like this
>> >> letter >l< in Russian.
>> >
>> > Uh, a little help here!
>> >
>> > I normally pronounce words in my head as I read them. Kindasorta, but
>> > not always. With the exception of Andrzej. Typically, I'll "bloop" over
>> > your name to avoid getting dizzy.

>>
>> I had the same problem when I read my share of books about wild west.

>
> True. Names are tricky in general. Words are only recognizable because
> people agree on what the letters sound like or represent.


There are languages where you simply have rules.

> And as
> letters represent different things to different people at times, well,
> it doesn't always work. I teach in an inner-city school and there are
> many creative or unusual (to me at least) arrangements of letters.
> Pronunciation can be difficult at best.


Are you trying to say that English can be a bitch? ;-)

> I have two Ciaras in my
> classroom (name changed for somethingsomething). One is Cee-air-uh
> while the other is Cee-are-uh. Invariably, I mispronounce their names.
> I tell my students to say, "Okay, Mister Smith!" when I mess up their
> names. That way I'll know immediately that I've made an error.
> Remembering and then pronouncing a name correctly is a clear sign of
> respect for many. I agree with that belief and work hard to get names
> right.


How about Julius Cezar? He wasn't Gee-ulius Cee-zar, you know? He was
Ee-uh-lee-uhs Ts-eh-zar.

Do you(all) respect him? ;-)

>> > would your name be pronounced Ahn-dlay? <snip>

>>
>> Un-jay would be close enough, or Ahn-djay if you want
>> to be precise.

>
> Thank you.
>
> Ahn-djay. Got it. I'll try to remember that for when I release my first
> MFW podcast. ;o)


Don't make me a celebrity. I'll hate it. ;-)

BTW - I was damn impressed when Willem Dafoe learned how to pronounce
Łudź (town where there is some supposedly famous film school). On the
other hand I cant understand why Aussies still can't be bothered to
learn how to pronounce Kościuszko (their biggest mountain).

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Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> Curt James:

[...]

> > <snip>Names are tricky in general. Words are only recognizable
> > because people agree on what the letters sound like or represent.

>
> There are languages where you simply have rules.
>
> > And as letters represent different things to different people at times,
> > well, it doesn't always work. I teach in an inner-city school and there
> > are many creative or unusual (to me at least) arrangements of letters.
> > Pronunciation can be difficult at best.

>
> Are you trying to say that English can be a bitch? ;-)


I've heard that's the case. Otoh, it's not Chinese.

[...]

> > Remembering and then pronouncing a name correctly is a clear
> > sign of respect for many. I agree with that belief and work hard to
> > get names right.

>
> How about Julius Cezar? He wasn't Gee-ulius Cee-zar, you know?
> He was Ee-uh-lee-uhs Ts-eh-zar.
>
> Do you(all) respect him? ;-)


Respect him? I don't even know him? (Wiki helps, though.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar

Respect Caesar?

(consults Wiki)

He was responsible for the first Roman invasion of Britain in 55 BC.
That counts Charles out, I'm guessing.

"On the way across the Aegean Sea, Caesar was kidnapped by Cilician
pirates. He maintained an attitude of superiority throughout his
captivity. When the pirates thought to demand a ransom of twenty
talents of gold, he insisted they ask for fifty. After the ransom was
paid, Caesar raised a fleet, pursued and captured the pirates, and
imprisoned them in Pergamon. The governor of Asia refused to execute
them as Caesar demanded, preferring to sell them as slaves, but Caesar
returned to the coast and had them crucified on his own authority, as
he had promised to when in captivity - a promise the pirates had
taken as a joke."

Hey, no fan of idle threats, so I suppose that counts J Dubya out, too.
Yup, when Caesar said he could beat someone senseless, he didn't sit on
his hands in Ohio! He took action.

Respect Caesar? Can you say Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt. Thirty-year age
difference? Oh, yeeeaaah! Much respect to Caesar.

> >> > would your name be pronounced Ahn-dlay? <snip>
> >>
> >> Un-jay would be close enough, or Ahn-djay if you want
> >> to be precise.

> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Ahn-djay. Got it. I'll try to remember that for when I release my first
> > MFW podcast. ;o)

>
> Don't make me a celebrity. I'll hate it. ;-)


People magazine is calling!

> BTW - I was damn impressed when Willem Dafoe learned how to pronounce
> Łudź (town where there is some supposedly famous film school).


He's an interesting person. Saw an interview, iirc, in Parade magazine.
And, yes, Wiki offers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Dafoe

> On the other hand I cant understand why Aussies still can't be bothered to
> learn how to pronounce Kościuszko (their biggest mountain).


Perhaps David can explain? ;o)

> Andrzej Rosa 1127R


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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Dnia 2006-10-22 Curt James napisał(a):
> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>
>> > Remembering and then pronouncing a name correctly is a clear
>> > sign of respect for many. I agree with that belief and work hard to
>> > get names right.

>>
>> How about Julius Cezar? He wasn't Gee-ulius Cee-zar, you know?
>> He was Ee-uh-lee-uhs Ts-eh-zar.
>>
>> Do you(all) respect him? ;-)

>
> Respect him? I don't even know him? (Wiki helps, though.)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar
>
> Respect Caesar?
>
> (consults Wiki)
>
> He was responsible for the first Roman invasion of Britain in 55 BC.
> That counts Charles out, I'm guessing.


If not the third invasion there would be no English nation, I'm afraid.
;-)

> "On the way across the Aegean Sea, Caesar was kidnapped by Cilician
> pirates. He maintained an attitude of superiority throughout his
> captivity. When the pirates thought to demand a ransom of twenty
> talents of gold, he insisted they ask for fifty. After the ransom was
> paid, Caesar raised a fleet, pursued and captured the pirates, and
> imprisoned them in Pergamon. The governor of Asia refused to execute
> them as Caesar demanded, preferring to sell them as slaves, but Caesar
> returned to the coast and had them crucified on his own authority, as
> he had promised to when in captivity - a promise the pirates had
> taken as a joke."
>
> Hey, no fan of idle threats, so I suppose that counts J Dubya out, too.
> Yup, when Caesar said he could beat someone senseless, he didn't sit on
> his hands in Ohio! He took action.
>
> Respect Caesar? Can you say Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt. Thirty-year age
> difference? Oh, yeeeaaah! Much respect to Caesar.


I'm afraid, I even like him. He would make me fight for his cause with
no effort at all.

One of the reasons I like him, was the shortness of his speeches. He
was known as a person who made the shortest speech in history. His
legions rebelled against him because he did not pay them in time. So
he started his speech with "Dear civilians" and that was enough. Order
was restored.

[...]
>> On the other hand I cant understand why Aussies still can't be bothered to
>> learn how to pronounce Kościuszko (their biggest mountain).

>
> Perhaps David can explain? ;o)


Perhaps you can explain why Americans bastardise this name exactly the
same way. Kościuszko fought in the war of independence. He fortified
Saratoga, or something like that, anyway Kostasky (or some such) is found
somewhere within the pages of American History.

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:32 AM
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Curt James wrote:
> Respect Caesar?
>
> (consults Wiki)
>
> He was responsible for the first Roman invasion of Britain in 55 BC.
> That counts Charles out, I'm guessing.
>
> "On the way across the Aegean Sea, Caesar was kidnapped by Cilician
> pirates. He maintained an attitude of superiority throughout his
> captivity. When the pirates thought to demand a ransom of twenty
> talents of gold, he insisted they ask for fifty. After the ransom was
> paid, Caesar raised a fleet, pursued and captured the pirates, and
> imprisoned them in Pergamon. The governor of Asia refused to execute
> them as Caesar demanded, preferring to sell them as slaves, but Caesar
> returned to the coast and had them crucified on his own authority, as
> he had promised to when in captivity - a promise the pirates had
> taken as a joke."
>
> Hey, no fan of idle threats, so I suppose that counts J Dubya out, too.
> Yup, when Caesar said he could beat someone senseless, he didn't sit on
> his hands in Ohio! He took action.
>
> Respect Caesar? Can you say Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt. Thirty-year age
> difference? Oh, yeeeaaah! Much respect to Caesar.
>


> Curt


You seem to respect, even admire, Julius Caesar. Yet consider his
exploit with the pirates. Here is a young Roman--perhaps in his late
teens or early twenties--who, on his own authority, orders their
execution. Because Caesar had, after his successful raid, transported
his prisoners to the headquarters of the Roman army (at Pergamum), the
pirates were now subject to Roman military regulations. This meant the
penalty of crucifixion. As a result of Caesar's taking "action," five
hundred pirates died on the crosses. Afterward, young Caesar simply
continued his journey to Rhodes to study public speaking. He found it
somewhat amusing that the pirates, who had hoped to make a profit from
his kidnapping, were themselves forced to pay--with their lives. Is
this a man to admire?

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DeKay wrote:
> Curt James wrote:
> > Respect Caesar?
> >
> > (consults Wiki)
> >
> > He was responsible for <snip>
> >
> > "On the way across the Aegean Sea, Caesar was kidnapped by Cilician
> > pirates. He maintained an attitude of superiority throughout his
> > captivity. When the pirates thought to demand a ransom of twenty
> > talents of gold, he insisted they ask for fifty. After the ransom was
> > paid, Caesar raised a fleet, pursued and captured the pirates, and
> > imprisoned them in Pergamon. The governor of Asia refused to execute
> > them as Caesar demanded, preferring to sell them as slaves, but Caesar
> > returned to the coast and had them crucified on his own authority, as
> > he had promised to when in captivity - a promise the pirates had
> > taken as a joke."
> >
> > Hey, no fan of idle threats, so <snip>

>
> You seem to respect, even admire, Julius Caesar. Yet consider his
> exploit with the pirates. Here is a young Roman--perhaps in his late
> teens or early twenties--who, on his own authority, orders their
> execution. Because Caesar had, after his successful raid, transported
> his prisoners to the headquarters of the Roman army (at Pergamum), the
> pirates were now subject to Roman military regulations. This meant the
> penalty of crucifixion. As a result of Caesar's taking "action," five
> hundred pirates died on the crosses. Afterward, young Caesar simply
> continued his journey to Rhodes to study public speaking. He found it
> somewhat amusing that the pirates, who had hoped to make a profit from
> his kidnapping, were themselves forced to pay--with their lives.


Perhaps an extreme consequence, I'd agree on that point.

> Is this a man to admire?


CLEOPATRA, MAN! CLEOPATRA!!!!

(And I'll bet there were NO additional kidnapping attempts made on
Caesar.)

> Sam


Seriously, Sam, if you come from a long line of pirates, perhaps one of
those pirates having met their doom at the hands of Caesar then do
accept my apologies for my flippant response. You're absolutely correct
wrt your opinion that 500 lives lost - many of which I'm sure had no
clue of the kidnapping at all - is an unacceptable loss of life. The
choice of a teenager, though? Amazing that that kind of power would be
placed in the hands of a child.

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Dnia 2006-10-24 Curt James napisał(a):
> DeKay wrote:
>> Curt James wrote:
>> > Respect Caesar?
>> >
>> > (consults Wiki)
>> >
>> > He was responsible for <snip>
>> >
>> > "On the way across the Aegean Sea, Caesar was kidnapped by Cilician
>> > pirates. He maintained an attitude of superiority throughout his
>> > captivity. When the pirates thought to demand a ransom of twenty
>> > talents of gold, he insisted they ask for fifty. After the ransom was
>> > paid, Caesar raised a fleet, pursued and captured the pirates, and
>> > imprisoned them in Pergamon. The governor of Asia refused to execute
>> > them as Caesar demanded, preferring to sell them as slaves, but Caesar
>> > returned to the coast and had them crucified on his own authority, as
>> > he had promised to when in captivity - a promise the pirates had
>> > taken as a joke."
>> >
>> > Hey, no fan of idle threats, so <snip>

>>
>> You seem to respect, even admire, Julius Caesar. Yet consider his
>> exploit with the pirates. Here is a young Roman--perhaps in his late
>> teens or early twenties--who, on his own authority, orders their
>> execution. Because Caesar had, after his successful raid, transported
>> his prisoners to the headquarters of the Roman army (at Pergamum), the
>> pirates were now subject to Roman military regulations. This meant the
>> penalty of crucifixion. As a result of Caesar's taking "action," five
>> hundred pirates died on the crosses. Afterward, young Caesar simply
>> continued his journey to Rhodes to study public speaking. He found it
>> somewhat amusing that the pirates, who had hoped to make a profit from
>> his kidnapping, were themselves forced to pay--with their lives.

>
> Perhaps an extreme consequence, I'd agree on that point.


Extreme? Toward pirates? In Roman empire BC?

Not at all.

>> Is this a man to admire?

>
> CLEOPATRA, MAN! CLEOPATRA!!!!


He did pretty well in Egypt besides being seduced by dear Cleo. He
wrote about it for some lengths so it's no secret how hard times they
had there and emerged victorious anyway.

> (And I'll bet there were NO additional kidnapping attempts made on
> Caesar.)


But he shown weakness by forgiving all his enemies during civil war and
ended being murdered by them. Next emperors learned the lesson.

>> Sam

>
> Seriously, Sam, if you come from a long line of pirates, perhaps one of
> those pirates having met their doom at the hands of Caesar then do
> accept my apologies for my flippant response. You're absolutely correct
> wrt your opinion that 500 lives lost - many of which I'm sure had no
> clue of the kidnapping at all - is an unacceptable loss of life. The
> choice of a teenager, though? Amazing that that kind of power would be
> placed in the hands of a child.


He sort of took it. Normally it was not "placed". Some honors were
customary, but with a more or less informal adviser behind the boy's
back.

[again a hole in the feed. Some posts get lost. ;-(]

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Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> Curt James:
> > DeKay wrote:

[...]

> >> penalty of crucifixion. As a result of Caesar's taking "action," five
> >> hundred pirates<snip>who had hoped to make a profit from
> >> his kidnapping, were themselves forced to pay--with their lives.

> >
> > Perhaps an extreme consequence, I'd agree on that point.

>
> Extreme? Toward pirates? In Roman empire BC?


Hence the "perhaps" caveat. I shy from blanket statements as I realize
someone else may have a different opinion, better information, or some
insight that may change my own perspective or opinion.

> Not at all.


Dang. Sucks to be a pirate.

> >> Is this a man to admire?

> >
> > CLEOPATRA, MAN! CLEOPATRA!!!!

>
> He did pretty well in Egypt besides being seduced by dear Cleo. He
> wrote about it for some lengths so it's no secret how hard times they
> had there and emerged victorious anyway.
>
> > (And I'll bet there were NO additional kidnapping attempts made on
> > Caesar.)

>
> But he shown weakness by forgiving all his enemies during civil war
> and ended being murdered by them. Next emperors learned the
> lesson.


Et tu, Andrzej?!

[...]
> > <snip>Amazing that that kind of power would be placed in the
> > hands of a child.

>
> He sort of took it. Normally it was not "placed". Some honors were
> customary, but with a more or less informal adviser behind the boy's
> back.


Why am do I find myself suddenly thinking of Dick Cheney?

> [again a hole in the feed. Some posts get lost. ;-(]


I occasionally read the ng via Free Agent, but of late it's been Google
primarily, although I have also been known to seek out
http://www.mailgate.org/ as an alternative source.

> Andrzej Rosa 1127R


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