checking in

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OK, checking back out.

In article
<40b666b5-7522-4773-af4d-953fd9b041bf@z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:

> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> OK, checking back out.

Oh come on dude! There are actually quite a few on topic posts here, and
a few that could use your less jaded input. ;-)

<waves> Hi!
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> OK, checking back out.

hey dude!! if you are the last person leaving, please turn off the lights!

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> .
> .
> .
> OK, checking back out.

Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.

I hope you are well David!

-Lester

On Jul 3, 11:12*am, "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > . .
> > OK, checking back out.
>
> Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> I hope you are well David!
>
> -Lester

That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
salmon.

Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?

David

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:43252718-e5c6-45ae-8696-b178400aa309@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 3, 11:12 am, "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > . .
> > OK, checking back out.
>
> Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> I hope you are well David!
>
> -Lester

That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
salmon.

Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?

David

======================
I do believe you are trying to pester Lester

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:43252718-e5c6-45ae-8696-b178400aa309@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 3, 11:12 am, "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > . .
> > OK, checking back out.
>
> Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> I hope you are well David!
>
> -Lester

That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
salmon.

Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?

David
------------

Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. It was nice to see
that Keith still posts here.

Did the trolls finally get to you?

-Lester

> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > . .
> > > OK, checking back out.
>
> > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> > I hope you are well David!
>
> That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> salmon.
>
> Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
>
> Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. *It was nice tosee
> that Keith still posts here.

Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North

> Did the trolls finally get to you?

No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.

Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9e2a03e2-aedb-4326-b354-e4d90fa0a256@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > . .
> > > OK, checking back out.
>
> > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> > I hope you are well David!
>
> That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> salmon.
>
> Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
>
> Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. It was nice to see
> that Keith still posts here.

Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North

> Did the trolls finally get to you?

No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.

Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.

So are you active on one of the web forums? Any recommendations? I've been
doing a lot of open water rowing, but just picked up an essentially new
Cybex adjustable bench at a nice price. Right now I'm looking for a decent
power cage for the gym at work, which lacks liftoff pegs in the homemade
racks.

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9e2a03e2-aedb-4326-b354-e4d90fa0a256@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > . .
> > > OK, checking back out.
>
> > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> > I hope you are well David!
>
> That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> salmon.
>
> Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
>
> Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. It was nice to see
> that Keith still posts here.

Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North

> Did the trolls finally get to you?

No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.

Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.

================
exactly.
who needs all the confrontational stuff - give me 'nice and friendly'
anytime.

On Jul 4, 5:31*am, "ATP*" <waxwingsl...@azurepane.com> wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > *"Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > > . .
> > > > OK, checking back out.
>
> > > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> > > I hope you are well David!
>
> > That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> > permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> > regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> > genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> > salmon.
>
> > Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
>
> > Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. It was nice to see
> > that Keith still posts here.
>
> Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North
>
> > Did the trolls finally get to you?
>
> No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>
> Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>
> So are you active on one of the web forums? Any recommendations? I've been
> doing a lot of open water rowing, but just picked up an essentially new
> Cybex adjustable bench at a nice price. Right now I'm looking for a decent
> power cage for the gym at work, which lacks liftoff pegs in the homemade
> racks.

See? Another oldtimer! Swam upstream to get here

Lyle's forums have proven fun and useful. While there certainly isn't
the illustrious cast of renowns that the old MFW was famous for, his
original forum has the same "fuck you, you dumb shit" attitude.

Interestly (to me) was that he had to form a second forum for the
"nice, sweet, non-confrontational, supportive" folks. Which is quite
useful for the educational aspects, but not as much fun.

Too bad MFW couldn't have had two groups: the "old" one, and a new,
politically correct, sickly sweet, one.

"David Cohen"

See? Another oldtimer! Swam upstream to get here

Lyle's forums have proven fun and useful. While there certainly isn't
the illustrious cast of renowns that the old MFW was famous for, his
original forum has the same "fuck you, you dumb shit" attitude.

Interestly (to me) was that he had to form a second forum for the
"nice, sweet, non-confrontational, supportive" folks. Which is quite
useful for the educational aspects, but not as much fun.

Too bad MFW couldn't have had two groups: the "old" one, and a new,
politically correct, sickly sweet, one.


Fuck you David, and your fucking horse!!!

What did you do check your balls at the door?

Burr

"David"
>
> No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>
> Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>
> ================
> exactly.
> who needs all the confrontational stuff - give me 'nice and friendly'
> anytime.
>

Yes BUT, everything turns backwards in your life anyhow!!!

Fuck you and your Rue.

Burr

"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:UYKdnRKlMJCeu_PVnZ2dnUVZ_qninZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>
> "David Cohen"
>
> See? Another oldtimer! Swam upstream to get here
>
> Lyle's forums have proven fun and useful. While there certainly isn't
> the illustrious cast of renowns that the old MFW was famous for, his
> original forum has the same "fuck you, you dumb shit" attitude.
>
> Interestly (to me) was that he had to form a second forum for the
> "nice, sweet, non-confrontational, supportive" folks. Which is quite
> useful for the educational aspects, but not as much fun.
>
> Too bad MFW couldn't have had two groups: the "old" one, and a new,
> politically correct, sickly sweet, one.
>
>
> Fuck you David, and your fucking horse!!!
>
> What did you do check your balls at the door?
>
> Burr
>===========================
see? nice and non confrontational - just what the phony Vegas boy is saying

"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:C5WdnUBUOtn-u_PVnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> "David"
>>
>> No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
>> MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
>> wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
>> perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
>> insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>>
>> Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>>
>> ================
>> exactly.
>> who needs all the confrontational stuff - give me 'nice and friendly'
>> anytime.
>>
>
> Yes BUT, everything turns backwards in your life anyhow!!!
>
> Fuck you and your Rue.

Leave my Roo out of it - what did my Roo ever do to you?
just please be nice and non confrontational like the phony vegas boy is
saying

>
> Burr
>

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1f7971e9-324b-467a-933b-49c181e39769@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 4, 5:31 am, "ATP*" <waxwingsl...@azurepane.com> wrote:
> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > > . .
> > > > OK, checking back out.
>
> > > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>
> > > I hope you are well David!
>
> > That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> > permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> > regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> > genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> > salmon.
>
> > Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
>
> > Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. It was nice to
> > see
> > that Keith still posts here.
>
> Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North
>
> > Did the trolls finally get to you?
>
> No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>
> Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>
> So are you active on one of the web forums? Any recommendations? I've been
> doing a lot of open water rowing, but just picked up an essentially new
> Cybex adjustable bench at a nice price. Right now I'm looking for a decent
> power cage for the gym at work, which lacks liftoff pegs in the homemade
> racks.

See? Another oldtimer! Swam upstream to get here

Lyle's forums have proven fun and useful. While there certainly isn't
the illustrious cast of renowns that the old MFW was famous for, his
original forum has the same "fuck you, you dumb shit" attitude.

Interestly (to me) was that he had to form a second forum for the
"nice, sweet, non-confrontational, supportive" folks. Which is quite
useful for the educational aspects, but not as much fun.

Too bad MFW couldn't have had two groups: the "old" one, and a new,
politically correct, sickly sweet, one.

----------------------------------------

Cool....I'll have to check it out again. I was a member and poster their
like 3-4 years ago, but I think he purged the old forum, 'cause I'm not on
the member list anymore, and can't log in.

In article
<43252718-e5c6-45ae-8696-b178400aa309@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 3, 11:12*am, "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > . .
> > > OK, checking back out.
> >
> > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
> >
> > I hope you are well David!
> >
> > -Lester
>
> That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> salmon.
>
> Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
>
> David

It's usenet. There are no rules...
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article <C5WdnUBUOtn-u_PVnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "David"
> >
> > No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> > MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> > wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> > perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> > insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
> >
> > Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
> >
> > ================
> > exactly.
> > who needs all the confrontational stuff - give me 'nice and friendly'
> > anytime.
> >
>
> Yes BUT, everything turns backwards in your life anyhow!!!
>
> Fuck you and your Rue.
>
> Burr

Fuck y'all and my back x-rays...

Remember, I'm totally inebriated at the moment.

Sometimes bad news needs good Vodka.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article
<9e2a03e2-aedb-4326-b354-e4d90fa0a256@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:

> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > > . .
> > > > OK, checking back out.
> >
> > > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
> >
> > > I hope you are well David!
> >
> > That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> > permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> > regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> > genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> > salmon.
> >
> > Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
> >
> > Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. *It was nice to see
> > that Keith still posts here.
>
> Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North
>
> > Did the trolls finally get to you?
>
> No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>
> Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.

Not in a million years... You just got chicken, like you accused ME of
doing last time I left for a bit. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article
<1f7971e9-324b-467a-933b-49c181e39769@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 4, 5:31*am, "ATP*" <waxwingsl...@azurepane.com> wrote:
> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > *"Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
> > > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > > > . .
> > > > > OK, checking back out.
> >
> > > > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
> >
> > > > I hope you are well David!
> >
> > > That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
> > > permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
> > > regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
> > > genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
> > > salmon.
> >
> > > Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
> >
> > > Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. It was nice to see
> > > that Keith still posts here.
> >
> > Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North
> >
> > > Did the trolls finally get to you?
> >
> > No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> > MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> > wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> > perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> > insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
> >
> > Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
> >
> > So are you active on one of the web forums? Any recommendations? I've been
> > doing a lot of open water rowing, but just picked up an essentially new
> > Cybex adjustable bench at a nice price. Right now I'm looking for a decent
> > power cage for the gym at work, which lacks liftoff pegs in the homemade
> > racks.
>
> See? Another oldtimer! Swam upstream to get here
>
> Lyle's forums have proven fun and useful. While there certainly isn't
> the illustrious cast of renowns that the old MFW was famous for, his
> original forum has the same "fuck you, you dumb shit" attitude.
>
> Interestly (to me) was that he had to form a second forum for the
> "nice, sweet, non-confrontational, supportive" folks. Which is quite
> useful for the educational aspects, but not as much fun.
>
> Too bad MFW couldn't have had two groups: the "old" one, and a new,
> politically correct, sickly sweet, one.

<snork> All it takes is a bit of effort! ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:40b666b5-7522-4773-af4d-953fd9b041bf@z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> OK, checking back out.

Here's one that actually made me think of you - the EMTs at today's
Fourth of July parade in my town were riding bikes - made by Smith &
Wesson. (I'm a judge for the musical groups at the parade.) I figure
that's the kind of bike you might ride.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

In article <6d7499F17424U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40b666b5-7522-4773-af4d-953fd9b041bf@z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > OK, checking back out.
>
> Here's one that actually made me think of you - the EMTs at today's
> Fourth of July parade in my town were riding bikes - made by Smith &
> Wesson. (I'm a judge for the musical groups at the parade.) I figure
> that's the kind of bike you might ride.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com

Cool. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 04:11:32 -0700 (PDT), David Cohen
<sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>OK, checking back out.

Good call!

David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
>MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
>wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
>perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
>insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>
>Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.

Aw, go ahead. Kick that dead horse and see if he comes around.

In article <pq0t64hbs3vgdli72kfqtrg23slia8fvls@4ax.com>,
JMW <jmw@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

> David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> >MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> >wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> >perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> >insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
> >
> >Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>
> Aw, go ahead. Kick that dead horse and see if he comes around.

Bottom line tho was MFW was one of the last bastions of decent usenet
information. One of the selling points of portal web systems is the
ability to blog. Usenet is the original blog and it really isn't
obsolete. With a good reader it is superior to web forums for
information exchange. It is (arguably) superior or at least as good as a
blog.

But the trolls did kill it. Too bad the idea of a moderator was seen as
bad. If the purpose of moderation was simply to get rid of people who
were trying to take down the system it would have been good. FIne line
to position, I realize.

Oh well. I, for one, miss the days when you could post something novel
and contentious on here and you'd get discussion. Or post something
wrong and get called out on it. Now - I'm not sure there are more than a
handful of people who really know what is being discussed on any leading
edge stuff.

A recent study showing high levels of caffeine ingestion with carbs
caused 66% ore glycogen accumulation after intensive exercise (Journal
of Applied Physiology (2008), Pedersen DJ, et al "High rates of muscle
glycogen resynthesis after exhaustive exercise when carbohydrate is
co-ingested with caffeine"). That would have been a fun discussion in
MFW circa 2000 or so. The coffee drinkers would have been ectastic, the
study methodology would have been questioned, the impact on nervous
tissue would have been questioned and a whole pile of speculation on
mechanism of resynthesis would have happened. Is glycogen increases
really important to weightlifters? How about the HIT aspects?

And does it affect LEPTIN!!!

:^)

"David"
>>
>> Fuck you and your Rue.
>
> Leave my Roo out of it - what did my Roo ever do to you?
> just please be nice and non confrontational like the phony vegas boy is
> saying
>
>>
>> Burr
>>
>
>
How far do you have to walk to kiss your Roo when you pull out?

Burr

"Lester L."
>
> Lyle's forums have proven fun and useful. While there certainly isn't
> the illustrious cast of renowns that the old MFW was famous for, his
> original forum has the same "fuck you, you dumb shit" attitude.
>
> Interestly (to me) was that he had to form a second forum for the
> "nice, sweet, non-confrontational, supportive" folks. Which is quite
> useful for the educational aspects, but not as much fun.
>
> Too bad MFW couldn't have had two groups: the "old" one, and a new,
> politically correct, sickly sweet, one.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Cool....I'll have to check it out again. I was a member and poster their
> like 3-4 years ago, but I think he purged the old forum, 'cause I'm not on
> the member list anymore, and can't log in.
>

Someone send me the URl for "BOTH" list, please.

Burr

In article <cb7t64lpa08b9sv1s7a8dtkf002sp9omn5@4ax.com>,
John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:18:26 -0600, Keith <hobbes@tigger.com> wrote in
> misc.fitness.weights:
>
> >In article <pq0t64hbs3vgdli72kfqtrg23slia8fvls@4ax.com>,
> > JMW <jmw@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> >
> >> David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
> >> >MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
> >> >wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
> >> >perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
> >> >insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
> >> >
> >> >Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
> >>
> >> Aw, go ahead. Kick that dead horse and see if he comes around.
> >
> >Bottom line tho was MFW was one of the last bastions of decent usenet
> >information. One of the selling points of portal web systems is the
> >ability to blog. Usenet is the original blog and it really isn't
> >obsolete. With a good reader it is superior to web forums for
> >information exchange. It is (arguably) superior or at least as good as a
> >blog.
> >
> >But the trolls did kill it. Too bad the idea of a moderator was seen as
> >bad. If the purpose of moderation was simply to get rid of people who
> >were trying to take down the system it would have been good. FIne line
> >to position, I realize.
> >
> >Oh well. I, for one, miss the days when you could post something novel
> >and contentious on here and you'd get discussion. Or post something
> >wrong and get called out on it. Now - I'm not sure there are more than a
> >handful of people who really know what is being discussed on any leading
> >edge stuff.
> >
> >A recent study showing high levels of caffeine ingestion with carbs
> >caused 66% ore glycogen accumulation after intensive exercise (Journal
> >of Applied Physiology (2008), Pedersen DJ, et al "High rates of muscle
> >glycogen resynthesis after exhaustive exercise when carbohydrate is
> >co-ingested with caffeine"). That would have been a fun discussion in
> >MFW circa 2000 or so. The coffee drinkers would have been ectastic, the
> >study methodology would have been questioned, the impact on nervous
> >tissue would have been questioned and a whole pile of speculation on
> >mechanism of resynthesis would have happened. Is glycogen increases
> >really important to weightlifters? How about the HIT aspects?
> >
> >And does it affect LEPTIN!!!
> >
> >:^)
>
> So how is my favorite Canadian? Keith, you should really take up
> diving...and then move on to technical diving. You'd love the physics
> involved and no, diving doesn't affect your hearing. My advanced
> nitrox and decompression instructor wears hearing aids and is more
> deaf than I am.
>
> Check this stuff out:
> http://www.tek-dive.com/portal/upload/deep.pdf
> http://www.sdm.scot.nhs.uk/dive_tables/
> http://www.deepocean.net/deepocean/i...?science03.php
>
> Another aspect of technical diving is keeping oneself in good physical
> condition. The higher your fitness level, the better one is able to
> off gas. So you would be the perfect technical diver, IMO.
>
> Anyhoo, I've got to get back to organizing my dive gear (it takes up 6
> bins...tech diving can be expensive;-). I'm taking an attractive warm
> water diving lady to Wazee on Sunday for a very cold water dive
>
> Oh, and, my training is ok. I'm training at The Press Gym in Little
> Canada as well as the Plainfield Gym and Fitness center in
> Indianapolis. I'm working on the new airport they're building there
> and will be most of the summer. I'm flying back on weekends and am on
> vacation all next week.

Yeah, like I need another hobby!!!

But it does sound like a lot of fun, I have to admit. Good to hear from
you - I'm doing pretty good!

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:18:26 -0600, Keith <hobbes@tigger.com> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

>In article <pq0t64hbs3vgdli72kfqtrg23slia8fvls@4ax.com>,
> JMW <jmw@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>> David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
>> >MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
>> >wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
>> >perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
>> >insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>> >
>> >Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>>
>> Aw, go ahead. Kick that dead horse and see if he comes around.
>
>Bottom line tho was MFW was one of the last bastions of decent usenet
>information. One of the selling points of portal web systems is the
>ability to blog. Usenet is the original blog and it really isn't
>obsolete. With a good reader it is superior to web forums for
>information exchange. It is (arguably) superior or at least as good as a
>blog.
>
>But the trolls did kill it. Too bad the idea of a moderator was seen as
>bad. If the purpose of moderation was simply to get rid of people who
>were trying to take down the system it would have been good. FIne line
>to position, I realize.
>
>Oh well. I, for one, miss the days when you could post something novel
>and contentious on here and you'd get discussion. Or post something
>wrong and get called out on it. Now - I'm not sure there are more than a
>handful of people who really know what is being discussed on any leading
>edge stuff.
>
>A recent study showing high levels of caffeine ingestion with carbs
>caused 66% ore glycogen accumulation after intensive exercise (Journal
>of Applied Physiology (2008), Pedersen DJ, et al "High rates of muscle
>glycogen resynthesis after exhaustive exercise when carbohydrate is
>co-ingested with caffeine"). That would have been a fun discussion in
>MFW circa 2000 or so. The coffee drinkers would have been ectastic, the
>study methodology would have been questioned, the impact on nervous
>tissue would have been questioned and a whole pile of speculation on
>mechanism of resynthesis would have happened. Is glycogen increases
>really important to weightlifters? How about the HIT aspects?
>
>And does it affect LEPTIN!!!
>
>:^)

So how is my favorite Canadian? Keith, you should really take up
diving...and then move on to technical diving. You'd love the physics
involved and no, diving doesn't affect your hearing. My advanced
nitrox and decompression instructor wears hearing aids and is more
deaf than I am.

Check this stuff out:
http://www.tek-dive.com/portal/upload/deep.pdf
http://www.sdm.scot.nhs.uk/dive_tables/
http://www.deepocean.net/deepocean/i...?science03.php

Another aspect of technical diving is keeping oneself in good physical
condition. The higher your fitness level, the better one is able to
off gas. So you would be the perfect technical diver, IMO.

Anyhoo, I've got to get back to organizing my dive gear (it takes up 6
bins...tech diving can be expensive;-). I'm taking an attractive warm
water diving lady to Wazee on Sunday for a very cold water dive

Oh, and, my training is ok. I'm training at The Press Gym in Little
Canada as well as the Plainfield Gym and Fitness center in
Indianapolis. I'm working on the new airport they're building there
and will be most of the summer. I'm flying back on weekends and am on
vacation all next week.

"Burr" <pitzradio@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bOWdncgQj-EoA_PVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> "David"
>>>
>>> Fuck you and your Rue.
>>
>> Leave my Roo out of it - what did my Roo ever do to you?
>> just please be nice and non confrontational like the phony vegas boy is
>> saying
>>
>>>
>>> Burr
>>>
>>
>>
> How far do you have to walk to kiss your Roo when you pull out?

My roo is not really very affectionate. She doesn't like to be kissed unless
I shave which I refuse to do.

>
> Burr
>

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 04:54:41 -0700 (PDT), David Cohen
<sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
>> "Lester L." <lo...@ix.netcomSPAMBLOX.com> wrote:
>> > "David Cohen" <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > > . .
>> > > OK, checking back out.
>>
>> > Funny, I checked in for the first time in years last night.
>>
>> > I hope you are well David!
>>
>> That is a strange coincidence, Lester. I checked in after leaving
>> permanently just to see how things were proceeding...or
>> regressing...and there you are. Maybe the oldtimers have some sort of
>> genetic compulsion to return to the scene of their youth...like
>> salmon.
>>
>> Would anyone mind if I laid my eggs now?
>>
>> Yeah, I noticed John and the others aren't around much. *It was nice to see
>> that Keith still posts here.
>
>Canadians get lonely up in the cold cold North
>
>> Did the trolls finally get to you?
>
>No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
>MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
>wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
>perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
>insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.

That's not exactly what happened although much of what you say is
true. The "interesting, educational, fun" content was what made most
of us stay so long, with a great deal of enthusiasm and determination.
The degrees of "confrontation" were not equally motivated or balanced,
and you Cohen have no experience of the hostility that some people
were made to endure.

As one of a number of posters who had met in real life, you Cohen
enjoyed a rather closeted and accepted place in the MFW hierarchy, and
can have no real personal concept of the "confrontational"
unpleasantness regularly meted out to those who were not so embraced.

The *real* problem was one person who became so full of his own piss
and importance, that he thought he had the right to say who could post
here and who couldn't.

He was/is an overbearing narcissistic psychopathic obnoxious prick,
with an over-inflated unrealistic sense of his own worth and ability.
The object was to oppose him at every opportunity; to beat him at his
own game; give him a taste of his own medicine, and send him packing
just like he had done to so many other people over a period of many
years. In that objective there was, as you so rightly say, ultimate
"success"!!

Unfortunately, he alienated many of the "old regulars" who he had
attempted to recruit to support him. They did remain loyal to him, if
only in a somewhat half-hearted manner, but they eventually tired of
the constant unpleasantness generated, as his bullying tactics
descended into borderline illegality, with his very personal and
threatening behaviour to a number of other contributors.

If you are looking to apportion blame for the demise of what you
describe as the "old MFW", then you need to look no further than a
certain fat, bald, aged, mustachioed assistant county prosecutor...

....meanwhile, I will gladly raise my hand and admit to being one of
those that opposed him so remorselessly and energetically!!

(I see he couldn't resist responding to your post. Fancy a little
"sport" john boy?) ;o)

>
>Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>

That is something of an overstatement even for you Cohen; your
non-participation in Usenet activities is not necessarily an
indication that the whole edifice is crumbling!

How the fuck are you anyway Nursey Boy; still knocking the arse out of
eating and drinking, fighting the flab and ever on the lookout to get
your leg over? ;o)

Nice to see you posting again, even if it is only a passing fancy. Not
may people can prompt me into contributing these days.

Have a great weekend mate - you know I intend to!! ;o)

TFIF!

"JMW" <jmw@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
newsq0t64hbs3vgdli72kfqtrg23slia8fvls@4ax.com...
> David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>No. They aren't actually trolls. Just folks who didn't like the "old"
>>MFW, which was confrontational, interesting, educational, fun. They
>>wanted a "nice, friendly" group where utter bullshit advice was
>>perfectly acceptable, as long as the bullshitter was nice and didn't
>>insult anyone. So they set about to change the group, and succeeded.
>>
>>Nothing lasts forever. Usenet itself is becoming obsolete.
>
> Aw, go ahead. Kick that dead horse