CNN: Man counted calories, watched the pounds go

#1 07-19-2008, 04:00 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....jit/index.html

Man counted calories, watched the pounds go
Story Highlights

* Sujit Bhattacharya, 39, lost 40 pounds in six months

* He ate 1,500 calories per day in the form of six small meals

* Dietitians say they would recommend his method, but check with doctor
first

* iReport.com: Share your weight-loss success story

By Elizabeth Landau
CNN
(CNN) -- Sujit Bhattacharya knew he felt sluggish and had trouble putting
on his socks and shoes. One day, when he tried on a pair of size 30 shorts,
his wife pointed out that they fit only under his belly.

Yet Bhattacharya, of Coppell, Texas, never paid attention to his weight
problem until his doctor told him he had high cholesterol in summer 2006.
His friends also told him that he had become heavy and needed to do
something about it.

The feedback was upsetting, he acknowledged, but the combination of his
friends' prodding and the cholesterol numbers motivated him to start
trimming down his 193-pound frame.

"I needed some tough love: things I didn't want to hear but needed to
hear," Bhattacharya said.

He researched how to lose weight extensively on the Internet, including
CNN.com's health section. He learned that 3,500 calories add up to one
pound of weight and tried to figure out how to eat to decrease his daily
caloric intake.

Instead of eating a few large meals every day, he ate six small meals,
keeping track of how many calories he consumed. He had been eating more
than 2,500 calories a day, perhaps 3,000, so he cut this down to 1,500
calories a day. That meant losing a pound every two or three days.

"As long as you know how many calories you need and how many calories you
eat, it's just math," he said.

He also included more fruits and vegetables in his diet and ate fewer fatty
meats. For exercise, he changed his routine from three days a week of
limited cardio and heavy weights to six days a week with the same heavy
weights but increased cardio.

In six months, he lost 40 pounds. Since then, he's put on about 5 pounds of
"good" or muscle weight but has otherwise sustained his new physique
through diet and exercise.

Today, at age 39, he said he's starting to look more like when he was in
high school.

Losing weight has improved Bhattacharya's overall frame of mind, he said.
He also noticed that he doesn't get colds or the flu and fights off
infections faster than before.

Sometimes Bhattacharya wonders why he didn't start losing weight earlier
and can say only that he felt "fat, dumb and happy."

"I didn't understand what I was doing was hurting me," he said.

He actively encourages friends to try his weight loss method. One friend
lost 20 pounds following his advice. See more photos of weight loss success
stories from iReport.com »

"What I tell friends is: You've got to have a burning platform, something
to make you start, a goal or desire," he said. "For me, it was the bad
cholesterol test and friends. Someone else may want to fit into a bikini in
the summer."

Dietitians say they would encourage others to follow Bhattacharya's example
of reducing calories and spreading them more throughout the day instead of
eating big meals.

If you try it, make sure you have enough energy, feel good while doing it
and eat foods you enjoy so you can stick to it long-term, said Dawn Jackson
Blatner, a registered dietitian and spokeswoman for the American Dietetic
Association.

In fact, Bhattacharya did twice as well as the average person in a weight
loss program, Blatner said. He lost 20 percent of his body weight in six
months, beating the national average of 10 percent.

Tara Gidus, ADA spokeswoman and team dietitian for the NBA's Orlando Magic,
recommends that women never eat fewer than 1,200 calories and men no fewer
than 1,500 calories per day.

She typically does not recommend cutting out 1,000 calories at a time, "but
if someone is really motivated to lose weight and they eat snacks that are
filling in between meals, then they can cut a significant number of
calories, lose weight and not feel overly hungry," she said.

Blatner said she would also encourage anyone who wants a drastic diet
change to consult a doctor.

Bhattacharya emphasizes that anyone can shed unwanted pounds as long as he
or she compares the number of calories needed to maintain weight and the
number of calories he or she eats.

"I firmly believe it is not hard to lose weight," he said.

#2 07-19-2008, 04:00 AM

On Jul 18, 8:46*pm, s...@notformail.com (Sage) wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....t.loss.sujit/i...
>

Dizum posts shit and we can give it the attention it deserves:

<garbage tossed>

LV-posted in SSFA

#3 07-19-2008, 04:00 AM

Lady Veteran wrote:

> On Jul 18, 8:46*pm, s...@notformail.com (Sage) wrote:
> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....ht.loss.sujit/
> > i...
> >
>
> Dizum posts shit and we can give it the attention it deserves:
>
> <garbage tossed>
>
> LV-posted in SSFA

The Official Lady Veteran FAQ v1.17

1. What is Lady Veteran's real name?
2. What does Lady Veteran look like?
3. Are Lady Veteran's teeth really that brown?
4. Lady Veteran will claim that picture was altered. What say you?
5. Did Lady Veteran have her car repossessed?
6. Is Lady Veteran really a serial beggar?
7. Does Lady Veteran use pay day loans?
8. What is Lady Veteran's height and weight?
9. What is Lady Veteran built like?
10. Is Lady Veteran a lesbian?
11. Does Lady Veteran have her own newsgroups?
12. Did Lady Veteran really live in a cheap, extended stay motel?
13. Does Lady Veteran take things to real life with people who disagree
with her?
14. Was Lady Veteran turned down to foster chihauhaus?
15. Is Lady Veteran so broke that she could not fix her computer for
over 3 months when it crashed?
16. Is Lady Veteran really diseased?
17. Why was Lady Veteran kicked out of the Army?
18. Is Lady Veteran a racist?
19. What does Lady Veteran think of Air Force pilots?
20. Is Lady Veteran, despite being a lesbian, homophobic?
21. Lady Veteran is a net loon. Is she also insane in real life?
22. Was Lady Veteran forging Jean C?
23. Where does Lady Veteran work?
24. Was Lady Veteran evicted from her apartment?
25. Lady Veteran is barely literate. Was she trying to sell writing
services under the alias of 'Wordsmith'?
26. Is Lady Veteran a neo Nazi?
27. Lady Veteran contacted Google not to archive her posts, yet she
brands those who use "no archive" headers as "cowards". Is this
hypocritical?
28. Did Lady Veteran receive her degree from a "diploma mill"?
29. Why does Lady Veteran have such a difficult time composing a
coherent sentence, especially since she runs a business called "The
Wordsmith"?
30. Is Lady Veteran a spammer?
31. Has Lady Veteran won Usenet's coveted 'Kook of the Month' award?
32. How can I get in contact with Lady Veteran?

1. What is Lady Veteran's real name?

Bobbi Sanchez

2. What does Lady Veteran look like?

http://fatreality.netfirms.com/blobbi.htm

3. Are Lady Veteran's teeth really that brown?

Yes.

4. Lady Veteran will claim that picture was altered. What say you?

LV will claim that the picture was altered, but only the name tag was
added. LV used to have the original picture posted on her personal web
site at http://profiles.yahoo.com/lady_veteran . It was taken down
after a dentist was shocked by the color of her teeth (Message-ID:
<43ms20p62nc280ro3q88en4h3vugdafg3l@4ax.com> ). LV subsequently
replaced the picture to avoid further embarrassment.

5. Did Lady Veteran have her car repossessed?

Yes. Message-ID:
<38C814E536AE9844.15B8C70F1948AFC3.F2AA7341D7E8B72 1@lp.airnews.net>#1/1

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: A question
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:19:38 -0600
Message-ID: <fj14n210qe47ge5g69nm5poqvl5vqk0eqs@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

>It was she who disclosed that her car was repossessed because she did
not make the payments.

In a legal newsgroup seeking legal advise...you left out that part.

6. Is Lady Veteran really a serial beggar?

Yes. Not only did she beg a priest for money to pay her rent
(Message-ID:
<33FBD47F044F1402.9414A74F8938BCC8.AA82604960F75E4 2@lp.airnews.net>#1/1)
, she also posted a message on NAAFA's web board and created a
Geocities web site for the sole purpose of begging for money for her
war on trolls.

7. Does Lady Veteran use pay day loans?

Yes. Message-ID:
<AFDA5075017A206D.9F8B3834FF2B162D.2BCF533C1752740 2@lp.airnews.net>#1/1

8. What is Lady Veteran's height and weight?

5' 6 1/2", 240 pounds.

Message-ID: <em98lso2rg326hfelsrc10crvqjt1435dj@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <5utfctkamapne0sqh0v8c0gp3qhjon2i1g@4ax.com>

9. What is Lady Veteran built like?

Like a wrestler, according to LV herself.

Message-ID: <ubfbqs4r0koopeg7fa86or27b9mpcmf2db@4ax.com>

10. Is Lady Veteran a lesbian?

Apart from her unfeminine looks and Usenet behavior, LV admits to
wearing men's pants ( Message-ID:
<0spvlskkdg305qpeibhltspl04qv12ipsu@4ax.com>#1/1).

11. Does Lady Veteran have her own newsgroups?

Yes.

alt.blobbi.veteran-cunt
alt.fan.boar-semen.blobbi-sanchez
alt.fan.boar-semen.blobbi-sanchez.aka
alt.fan.boar-semen.blobbi-sanchez.aka.aka.lady-veteran

12. Did Lady Veteran really live in a cheap, extended stay motel?

Yes. Note her personal profile posted at
http://www.bestjobsus.com/bt-empd-armyvet.htm . This address is for
the Budget Suites of America.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: CNN: Tired of slights, embarrassment, man sheds 87 pounds
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:48:22 -0600
Message-ID: <l2okj39m70on27jn0nms22j8jb4hdd79ik@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.support.fat-acceptance,misc.fitness.weights,alt.support.diet,a lt.sup
port.diet.low-carb

>You were homeless and using the cheap motel address to conduct
business.

Er, no. I was living in a one-bedroom suite owned by the hotel. Not
homeless, fuckwit. People who live in hotels live in a home of their
own making and you cannot change that.

<end quote>

13. Does Lady Veteran take things to real life with people who disagree
with her?

Yes. As financially distressed as she is, LV paid a private
investigator $500 to track down a 20 year old Canadian named Marty who
was besting her with their every encounter. LV later took things to
real life with Jim Dutton and contacted his employer. LV's mission is
to take things to real life with anyone who disagrees with her,
assuming she can track the person down.

LV re-affirms that she will continue to stalk people who post from work
as she did with Jim Dutton.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Bobbi, Robin, others=read.
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:42:36 -0600
Message-ID: <5rq3m31c5dci477cf7r5idtfk209ho0p7o@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.support.fat-acceptance,alt.fucknozzles,soc.singles,alt.usenet. kooks,
alt.troll

>Let's get to the facts here. You netKKKop Jeem for posting from work,
then
>your headers show you doing the same. The postings that you made from
your
>workplace were forwarded to your employer, just like you did to Jeem.
Now
>you're whining that you are a victim of stalking? ROTFLMAO!!!!
>

Yes I did. I will do it again and again and again to you or any other
fuck that tries it. Want to dare me?

<end quote>

14. Was Lady Veteran turned down to foster chihauhaus?

Yes. Message-ID: <0humj0d03gj1qr6karknuucc29ngtql9vg@4ax.com>

Barbara Richardson the so-called moderator of DFW Cares just denied me
for a member because she said I lied about not getting a home visit
from Chihuahua Rescue. I have been waiting for a home for going on two
years now so I can foster Chihuahuas. I am still waiting.

Apparently The moderator has her own notions about what is right and
wrong and doesn't bother to check facts!

<end quote>

15. Is Lady Veteran so broke that she could not fix her computer for
over 3 months when it crashed?

Yes. Message-ID: <010d01c265d6$9467ea00$18ea3040@MAIN>

16. Is Lady Veteran really diseased?

Yes. She suffers from lupus and boils. LV probably has some
co-morbidities associated with obesity as well.

17. Why was Lady Veteran kicked out of the Army?

Speculation surrounds her lesbianism.

18. Is Lady Veteran a racist?

Yes. Quoting from Message-ID:
<svebc0h9nbj6955bsurqic2bhck2e05t4i@4ax.com> :

The lower half of 1 black man is worth 10 complete white men. When
I fuck I like MEN, not little sissyboys that have to talk from
behind their mommy's skirt.

I lova da bothas:-)

<end quote>

Quoting from Message-ID:
<news:32593110AEB31ACC.AE57CF2C8A1A20A9.F0DCF962F6 552859@lp.airnews.net>

You talk about the Asian is very gifted. You should follow their
example by being polite,

AND QUIET!!!!!!!!!!

<end quote>

Quoting from Message-ID: <rdk191lcntvrmhi0nldfn6mfvi9170gogp@4ax.com>

>I live in Dublin and I'd agree with that study. Plenty of fatties
>waddling around here.

So are you sure you just aren't alcohol-challenged and are seeing
double. I thin you have pickled what passed for a brain in your empty
head-and your empty head is as empty as your shorts.

<end quote>

Quoting from Message-ID: <polc61hsggatd6mo6rlfj29tbtib1uvv7e@4ax.com>

Unfortunately most of the idiots here happen to male Anglo-Saxon
idiots.

<end quote>

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Invitation for Bobbi
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:25:09 -0600
Message-ID: <89njp2h10bh09so5vtr175ad5lgd8mni2j@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

Yes 9 out 10 idiots are Caucasian males between 13 and 25. That is the
very group that will triple auto insurance rates for the rest of us
when they reach 16.

<end quote>

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: How many of the readers her ...
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:24:44 -0600
Message-ID: <bg6rp2hcbb33h23s07cr7jttiltsrnrf22@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

They screwed it up anyway. I said that most if the idiots bothering me
are white Caucasians who are between 13 and 25.

I am willing to wager that males in that other age group belonging to
other racial families have better things to do.

<end quote>

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Why Are American Women So Fat And Ugly?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:58:48 -0500
Message-ID: <g787c3petbk44blv5dijcuqklcu323s5de@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.men,soc.support.fat-acceptance,alt.support.divorce,alt.support.marri
age,soc.culture.jewish

Awwww, you say that like it is a bad thing. I bet you are jealous as
hell and are in some third world idiocracy calling the USA the great
Satan.

Your turban is WAAAAAY to tight.

LV

<end quote>

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: MSN Money: What if no one were fat?
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 19:30:43 -0500
Message-ID: <a0ok1453k0deq6163ud2lme78ms6j10fj2@4ax.com>

There are many Aryan wannabes in SSFA.

<end quote>

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: REPOST: When Trolls, Flame Wars and Cyber-Rage go too Far
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:54:28 -0500
Message-ID: <k55944122k6auiq80a5jfat0f0s1tl16um@4ax.com>

>Then why dd you write several posts speaking negatively about whites?
>You have yet to offer an explanation for yourself.

OH.....saying that most of the trolls here are white boys under 21?
You know why that people of color do not spend time poking sticks. In
some cases, it could purely financial-they may not have their own
computer. Another reason could be that their parents raised them
better. Yes that is anti parent-not anti whit you shit eating whore.

<end quote>

When pressed on how she could discern a person's race from their
writing style, Lady Veteran failed to respond.

Racist and sexist.

19. What does Lady Veteran think of Air Force pilots?

Lady Veteran is on the record stating that Air Force pilots are
cowards. Quoting from Message-ID:
<FD61BA67148006B8.0AC8A33AD0FC8798.555ED8B384D327D 0@lp.airnews.net>

They are most definitely cowards if they can't call a person fat to
their face and reap the benefits their comments so richly deserve.
BTW, I don't find hotshot pilots so brave. They fly up above the war
and could care less where their bombs fall. If they cared, maybe there
would be less war.

<end quote>

20. Is Lady Veteran, despite being a lesbian, homophobic?

Yes.

Quoting from Message-ID: <qu0571l8r39c8m1ib7a46dv63cai7hig6n@4ax.com>

Well when you get to the sigmoidoscopy just tell him that he is going
where no man has gone before...LOL!!

The idiots on this group sure can't say that.

<end quote>

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Whoooeee! Lookit this porker.
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:19:32 -0500
Message-ID: <6l9r835f5emlt0htrij2nomrbn3jd6t9s0@4ax.com>

>Guys who say they like fat women are the ones who have never had a hot
>chick. This is how they rationalize their lack of quality trim.

You couldn't keep up with a gay man on your best day bubba. Who the
hell are you kidding?

<end quote>

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Please limit comments ref LV
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:55:22 -0500
Message-ID: <ki34e318lnq0siri67k4ejo6907b8i2sq8@4ax.com>

Another delusional fool who thinks a pecker will solve everything.
Fuckfaces like you are the reason there are lesbians.

<end quote>

21. Lady Veteran is a net loon. Is she also insane in real life?

Yes. In Lady Veteran's own words:

From: bbi@airmail.net (Bobbi Sanchez)
Subject: Jacque champion's Best Friend
Date: 1998/11/09
Message-ID:
<AA5737F4407BF438.75053B83A5011CDC.5BC343E27A26902 5@library-proxy.airnew
s.net>#1/1
Newsgroups: dfw.flame

I am trying to locate a lady named Terri who used to be a friend of
Jacque champion (mainden name Krippen). Both were involved in the
psychic community and Jacque is an experienced Tarot reader. She has
told people that Terri is languishing in some mental asylum and has
probably killed herself. I need to compare notes with Terri because
Jacque is saying the same thing about me.

<end quote>

22. Was Lady Veteran forging Jean C?

Yes. Proof was posted in Message-ID:
<2H8XKYQV38075.0543865741@Gilgamesh-Frog.org>

23. Where does Lady Veteran work?

Lady Veteran is currently unemployed after being terminated, due to
either her Usenet postings or poor job performance, by the MMC Group.

MMC Group
105 Decker Court, Suite 150
Irving, Texas 75062

Phone: 972-893-0100
www.mmcgrp.com

24. Was Lady Veteran evicted from her apartment?

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: A question
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:19:38 -0600
Message-ID: <fj14n210qe47ge5g69nm5poqvl5vqk0eqs@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

> It was she that disclosed the she was evicted from her dwelling
because she did not
>pay the rent.

No one else in the entire universe has ever been evicted due to job
layoff except fir me...

<end quote>

25. Lady Veteran is barely literate. Was she trying to sell writing
services under the alias of 'Wordsmith'?

Yes. Lady Veteran posted this advertisement on Usenet:

Wordsmith Services and Pricing
www.georicites.com/ladyveteran@sbcglobal.net

Resumes (1-2 pages)
$35.00
Resumes (additional pages - including addendums)
$10.00
Cover Letters
$10.00
Envelopes
$5.00
Mailing
ask for pricing
Dossiers
$25.00
Business Cards (50 cards)
$15.00
Brochures
$40.00
Websites (design only)
$100.00
Reports/Term Papers Composition
$50.00
Reports/Term Papers Typing only
$25.00
Research
$20.00 per hour
Personal letters composition
$25.00
Personal Letters typing only
$10.00
Bumper Stickers
$1.50

August Special!!! Get a free custom bumper sticker with each order.
Good
until august 31, 2004
Payment can be made by cash or credit card, no checks please
A 50%payment is due at beginning of assignment with balance due prior
to
delivery.

Thanks!
We look forward to working with you.
The Wordsmith at your service.
We look forward to hearing from you

<end quote>

Quoting Gumshoe McFindy : "[note the creative spelling of geocities.
Typo's aren't usually a good sign in someone who fancies themself a
linguist...HTH]"

26. Is Lady Veteran a neo Nazi?

Yes. At least she aspires to be one.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Bobbi Sanchez of esoftsolutions.com makes another death
threat.
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:03:20 -0600
Message-ID: <9mj1l3161tsq004l7r9tc9ieml7ntaaajt@4ax.com>

How many swastikas can I draw on your forehead before I run out of
ammo, sock puppet?

<end quote>

27. Lady Veteran contacted Google not to archive her posts, yet she
brands those who use "no archive" headers as "cowards". Is this
hypocritical?

Yes, of course it is. This is not the only area where she displays
blatant hypocrisy. In the example below, Lady Veteran actually posted
from Google Groups and even that post did not show up there.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Whar's Ole Yellar?
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:43:22 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<b54e1411-4d10-470b-af41-db64614460cf@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
References: <9i4r749rmilp2ohglpdvb1kmd717hekk3q@4ax.com>
Lines: 9
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance
Organization: http://groups.google.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.25.55.102
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1216212203 30511 127.0.0.1 (16 Jul 2008
12:43:23 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:43:23 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=3D66.25.55.102;
posting-account=3DdrqrdQkAAADFgPDI_mkq1r35_j_zEdDx
User-Agent: G2/1.0

28. Did Lady Veteran receive her degree from a "diploma mill"?

Lady Veteran's degree came from Academy International of Santa Barbara,
California. This school has no website, no listed phone number, no
references from alumni, and above all, there is now a chiropractor's
office at Academy International's last known address.

29. Why does Lady Veteran have such a difficult time composing a
coherent sentence, especially since she runs a business called "The
Wordsmith"?

She has made various excuses, "dyslexia" being the latest.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: po'folks loans?
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:19:31 -0500
Message-ID: <1crs54llar832ipqtsddvlptru9l6vtadb@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.support.fat-acceptance,soc.singles,alt.usenet.kooks,dfw.genera l,aust
in.general

>She writes at about the the level of a 4th grade student.
>
>Jan

I do not need to justify anything to you, skanky, but since you asked
so nicely...I have a form of dyslexia.

<end quote>

30. Is Lady Veteran a spammer?

Yes. Lady Veteran's mass, unsolicited email was a topic of
conversation on an online bulletin board:

From http://clue.denver.co.us/pipermail/c...ly/009212.html

[clue-talk] Fw: Bobbi Sanchez wants to add you as a friend
David Rudder david.rudder at reliableresponse.net
Wed Jul 9 16:13:12 MDT 2008

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I got an invite from Bobbi today, too. I think your timing was
coincidence. I've been a member of the group for years.

Grouply apparently makes it easy to "invite" a whole yahoo group. When
I went to check it out, I got some pages which would allow me to spam
all my Yahoo groups. I turned it down, obviously, but it seems an
awful
temptation. Perhaps we could complain to Yahoo before moving everyone
off? Yahoo can always just ban Grouply's API key.

-Dave

David L. Willson wrote:
> I think it may be time to move CLUE-jobs off from Yahoo\!. I got
> Grouply-spammed by
> gr8t_recruiter at yahoo.com as soon as I joined the group so I could
post
> my opening. See
> below:
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message -----------
> From: Bobbi Sanchez <gr8t_recruiter at yahoo.com>
> To: DLWillson at TheGeek.NU
> Sent: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:57:22 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Bobbi Sanchez wants to add you as a friend
>
> We share the CLUEJOBS group. I want to add you as a friend in Grouply
so
> you can
> see my profile with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite group
messages.
>
> Here is the link:
> http://www.grouply.com/register.php?...amp;vt=1243446
> .
>
> Bobbi
>
> ====================
> This message was sent to you by a fellow group member who uses
Grouply instead
> of email to access your shared group. Grouply blocks additional
> invitations like
> this from being sent to you by anyone for 30 days.
> ------- End of Forwarded Message -------
>
>
> -- David

31. Has Lady Veteran won Usenet's coveted 'Kook of the Month' award?

Yes. Lady Veteran swept several awards in April, 2008.

KOOK OF THE MONTH
CLUELESS NEWBIE OF THE MONTH
COWARD OF THE MONTH

Lady Veteran also swept all six kook awards that she was nominated for
in May, 2008.

Congratulations, Lady Veteran!

32. How can I get in contact with Lady Veteran?

Home phone: 972-447-2109
Work phone: unemployed
Mobile number: 972-786-6275
Personal email: armyvet@bigfoot.com or gr8t_recruiter@yahoo.com or
imagoodrecruiter@gmail.com
Work email: unemployed
Employer: unemployed
Employer website: unemployed

--

#4 07-19-2008, 06:49 AM

Whenever you create a calorie deficit, you lose weight. So what's the
surprise here?

#5 07-19-2008, 06:49 AM

In article <9e672b1d-b151-42d7-91b0-
ac0e9afad2c3@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 18, 8:46*pm, s...@notformail.com (Sage) wrote:
> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....t.loss.sujit/i...
> >
>
> Dizum posts shit and we can give it the attention it deserves:
>
> <garbage tossed>
>
> LV-posted in SSFA

How's your pussy you greasy old bag of lard chips?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.

#6 07-19-2008, 11:30 AM

anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
> In article <9e672b1d-b151-42d7-91b0-
> ac0e9afad2c3@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
> Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 18, 8:46 pm, s...@notformail.com (Sage) wrote:
>>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....t.loss.sujit/i...
>>>
>> Dizum posts shit and we can give it the attention it deserves:
>>
>> <garbage tossed>
>>
>> LV-posted in SSFA
>
> How's your pussy you greasy old bag of lard chips?
>

Crispy - she deep fat fried it

#7 07-20-2008, 04:50 AM

Lady Veteran wrote:
> On Jul 18, 8:46 pm, s...@notformail.com (Sage) wrote:
>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....t.loss.sujit/i...
>>
>
> Dizum posts shit and we can give it the attention it deserves:
>
> <garbage tossed>
>
> LV-posted in SSFA
FUCK YOU WHORE
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â”—â”«â”â”ã€€â”ƒã€€â”â” â”£â”› ã€€â”£â”«
ã€€â”ƒã€€â”â”â”â”â”ã€€ â”ƒ â”â”³â”«â”£â”³â”“ã€€
ã€€â”—â”â”â”³â”â”³â”â”â”›â”ƒã€€ã€€ã€€ã€€ã€€â” ƒã€€
â”â”â”â”â”ƒã€€â”ƒã€€ã€€ã€€ã€€â”—â”â”³â”³â”â” ›
â”â”â”â”â”ƒã€€â”—â”â”â”â”â”â”â”›â”ƒ
BLOBBI
SANCHEZ SWALLOWS

#8 07-21-2008, 01:52 PM

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:26:14 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Whenever you create a calorie deficit, you lose weight. So what's the
>surprise here?

Whenever a brain posts it is in a group that is not interested-why is
that?

LV-posted in SSFA

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
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"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
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Tired of being harassed on Usenet? Join my group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/antiCHU
"I am mad as hell and I will not take it anymore!"

---Network

#9 07-21-2008, 01:52 PM

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:50:27 +0000 (UTC), "The Oracle "
<Oracle@LVFAQ.com> wrote:

>Lady Veteran wrote:

Here is the long-awaited response to the so-called FAQ by the DIZUM
Stalker.

The Official Lady Veteran FAQ v1.16

1. What is Lady Veteran's real name?
2. What does Lady Veteran look like?
3. Are Lady Veteran's teeth really that brown?
4. Lady Veteran will claim that picture was altered. What say you?
5. Did Lady Veteran have her car repossessed?
6. Is Lady Veteran really a serial beggar?
7. Does Lady Veteran use pay day loans?
8. What is Lady Veteran's height and weight?
9. What is Lady Veteran built like?
10. Is Lady Veteran a lesbian?
11. Does Lady Veteran have her own newsgroups?
12. Did Lady Veteran really live in a cheap, extended stay motel?
13. Does Lady Veteran take things to real life with people who
disagree with her?
14. Was Lady Veteran turned down to foster Chihuahuas?
15. Is Lady Veteran so broke that she could not fix her computer for
over 3 months when it crashed?
16. Is Lady Veteran really diseased?
17. Why was Lady Veteran kicked out of the Army?
18. Is Lady Veteran a racist?
19. What does Lady Veteran think of Air Force pilots?
20. Is Lady Veteran, despite being a lesbian, homophobic?
21. Lady Veteran is a net loon. Is she also insane in real life?
22. Was Lady Veteran forging Jean C?
23. Where does Lady Veteran work?
24. Was Lady Veteran evicted from her apartment?
25. Lady Veteran is barely literate. Was she trying to sell writing
services under the alias of 'Wordsmith'?
26. Is Lady Veteran a neo Nazi?
27. Lady Veteran contacted Google not to archive her posts, yet she
brands those who use "no archive" headers as "cowards". Is this
hypocritical?
28. Did Lady Veteran receive her degree from a "diploma mill"?
29. Why does Lady Veteran have such a difficult time composing a
coherent sentence, especially since she runs a business called "The
Wordsmith"?
30. Has Lady Veteran won Usenet's coveted 'Kook of the Month' award?
31. How can I get in contact with Lady Veteran?

1. What is Lady Veteran's real name?

Bobbi Sanchez
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The idiots love to call me "blobbie" in order to dehumanize. They will
have to try a lot harder than that.
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2. What does Lady Veteran look like?

http://fatreality.netfirms.com/blobbi.htm
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An idiot and her money are soon parted. Did you know that some brain
stem is actually paying to have this altered picture on a site to
vilify me? I am so HONORED!
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3. Are Lady Veteran's teeth really that brown?

Yes.
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No. The picture has been altered and I will be happy to send the real
picture to anyone who asks. No one has asked because they would rather
believe the lie. It is much more exciting
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4. Lady Veteran will claim that picture was altered. What say you?

LV will claim that the picture was altered, but only the name tag was
added. LV used to have the original picture posted on her personal
web site at http://profiles.yahoo.com/lady_veteran. It was taken down
after a dentist was shocked by the color of her teeth (Message-ID:
<43ms20p62nc280ro3q88en4h3vugdafg3l@4ax.com>). LV subsequently
replaced the picture to avoid further embarrassment.

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See above.
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5. Did Lady Veteran have her car repossessed?

Yes. Message-ID:
<38C814E536AE9844.15B8C70F1948AFC3.F2AA7341D7E8B72 1@lp.airnews.net>#1/1

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: A question
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:19:38 -0600
Message-ID: <fj14n210qe47ge5g69nm5poqvl5vqk0eqs@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

>It was she who disclosed that her car was repossessed because she did not make the payments.

In a legal newsgroup seeking legal advise...you left out that part.
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Now if you were reading you would think in the near recent past-right?
It actually happened in 1999. A lot has past since them. The idiots
like to make me look like an accomplished n'er do well who will not
pay her bills.

6. Is Lady Veteran really a serial beggar?

Yes. Not only did she beg a priest for money to pay her rent
(Message-ID:
<33FBD47F044F1402.9414A74F8938BCC8.AA82604960F75E4 2@lp.airnews.net>#1/1)
she also posted a message on NAAFA's web board and created a Geocities
web site for the sole purpose of begging for money for her war on
trolls.
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Again this happened in early 2000. Anyone can lose their job. Not that
it should matter to the sociopaths of SSFA, but I am a technical
recruiter. In early 2000, I could not get a job in my field and my
savings was evaporating very fast. Anybody can have financial hardship
but it is a crime when I have problems. Somehow I am some sort of
dregs or something or another. The site I put up in Geocities was done
during this time frame as well. I was trying to raise money to hire a
CANADIAN lawyer to bring MARTY (poor Canada-they don't want him
either.) up on charges. The reasons will become clear later.

7. Does Lady Veteran use pay day loans?

Yes. Message-ID:
<AFDA5075017A206D.9F8B3834FF2B162D.2BCF533C1752740 2@lp.airnews.net>#1/1
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See above. I make no apologies for being out of work wwhen three
quarters of my colleagues were pounding the payment with me.

8. What is Lady Veteran's height and weight?

5' 6 1/2", 240 pounds.

Message-ID: <em98lso2rg326hfelsrc10crvqjt1435dj@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <5utfctkamapne0sqh0v8c0gp3qhjon2i1g@4ax.com>
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I make no apologies for my height and weight. This also was a very old
post, circa 2000
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9. What is Lady Veteran built like?

Like a wrestler, according to LV herself.

Message-ID: <ubfbqs4r0koopeg7fa86or27b9mpcmf2db@4ax.com>

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I have very dense body tissue. I am what Eastern Europeans call good
sturdy peasant stock.

10. Is Lady Veteran a lesbian?

Apart from her unfeminine looks and Usenet behavior, LV admits to
wearing men's pants ( Message-ID:
<0spvlskkdg305qpeibhltspl04qv12ipsu@4ax.com>#1/1).

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So wearing men's pants makes one a lesbian? That is NEW to me.

11. Does Lady Veteran have her own newsgroups?

Yes.

alt.blobbi.veteran-cunt
alt.fan.boar-semen.blobbi-sanchez
alt.fan.boar-semen.blobbi-sanchez.aka
alt.fan.boar-semen.blobbi-sanchez.aka.aka.lady-veteran

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This is the "brain-child" of two idiots name Jim (pig-fucker) Dutton
and Michael Cranston, former shyster lawyer. They should seriously
consider removing them or there is a good change I will own every
possession these two pieces of garbage own.

12. Did Lady Veteran really live in a cheap, extended stay motel?

Yes. Note her personal profile posted at
http://www.bestjobsus.com/bt-empd-armyvet.htm . This address is for
the Budget Suites of America.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: CNN: Tired of slights, embarrassment, man sheds 87 pounds
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:48:22 -0600
Message-ID: <l2okj39m70on27jn0nms22j8jb4hdd79ik@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.support.fat-acceptance,misc.fitness.weights,alt.support.diet,a lt.suppor
t.diet.low-carb

>You were homeless and using the cheap motel address to conduct business.

Er, no. I was living in a one-bedroom suite owned by the hotel. Not
homeless, fuckwit. People who live in hotels live in a home of their
own making and you cannot change that.

<end quote>
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Why can't a single woman live in an extended stay hotel? It was a nice
place and I had maid service. Had a chance to save money and start a
business that idiots promptly sabotaged. Yes these idiots owe me a
great deal.
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13. Does Lady Veteran take things to real life with people who
disagree with her?

Yes. As financially distressed as she is, LV paid a private
investigator $500 to track down a 20 year old Canadian named Marty who
was besting her with their every encounter. LV later took things to
real life with Jim Dutton and contacted his employer. LV's mission is
to take things to real life with anyone who disagrees with her,
assuming she can track the person down.
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Pigfucker Dutton wrote bestiality pornography from his work issued
computer in his work-issued office on his work-issued job. You will
see some of that later.
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LV re-affirms that she will continue to stalk people who post from
work as she did with Jim Dutton.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Bobbi, Robin, others=read.
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:42:36 -0600
Message-ID: <5rq3m31c5dci477cf7r5idtfk209ho0p7o@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.support.fat-acceptance,alt.fucknozzles,soc.singles,alt.usenet. kooks,alt
troll

>Let's get to the facts here. You netKKKop Jeem for posting from work, then your headers show you doing the same. The postings that you made from your workplace were forwarded to your employer, just like you did to Jeem. Now you're whining that you are a victim of stalking? ROTFLMAO!!!!

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I turned Dutton in because of his bestiality porn written about me.
There is a difference.
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Yes I did. I will do it again and again and again to you or any other
fuck that tries it. Want to dare me?

<end quote>

14. Was Lady Veteran turned down to foster Chihuahuas? (Spelling
corrected)

Yes. Message-ID: <0humj0d03gj1qr6karknuucc29ngtql9vg@4ax.com>

Barbara Richardson the so-called moderator of DFW Cares just denied me
for a member because she said I lied about not getting a home visit
from Chihuahua Rescue. I have been waiting for a home for going on two
years now so I can foster Chihuahuas. I am still waiting.

Apparently The moderator has her own notions about what is right and
wrong and doesn't bother to check facts!

<end quote>

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Rescuers will not place dogs in a home where there is an unspayed
female. That is why my home is unsuitable. I was caring for a little
Shih-Tzu for a friend in a nursing home and she did not want her dog
spayed. That is why this happened.
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15. Is Lady Veteran so broke that she could not fix her computer for
over 3 months when it crashed?

Yes. Message-ID: <010d01c265d6$9467ea00$18ea3040@MAIN>
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The computer needed to be replaced. Why is that a crime when it
happens to me?
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16. Is Lady Veteran really diseased?

Yes. She suffers from lupus and boils. LV probably has some
co-morbidities associated with obesity as well.
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Let's see, I haven't had a boil for a long time. Idiots apparently
have nothing better to do than follow me around….?
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17. Why was Lady Veteran kicked out of the Army?

Speculation surrounds her lesbianism.
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That is an outright lie. Anyone saying that in a public forum will be
liable for defamation of character. End of subject.
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18. Is Lady Veteran a racist?

Yes. Quoting from Message-ID:
<svebc0h9nbj6955bsurqic2bhck2e05t4i@4ax.com>

The lower half of 1 black man is worth 10 complete white men. When I
fuck I like MEN, not little sissyboys that have to talk from behind
their mommy's skirt.

I lova da bothas:-)

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This was in response to a troll named Leroy. The inference was that I
could only get black men to be interested in me and that somehow is a
bad thing. My response was not the best it could have been but it got
the point across: If black men was all I could get, then HALF of a
BLACK man was beter then a whole white idiot. I had a hunch that
"LeRoy" was as black as what the KKK would allow. I was proven right
when the idiots hollered "racism!" Anyone notice that I never
referenced the word "white" n that post? I referred to "sissboys."
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Quoting from Message-ID:
<news:32593110AEB31ACC.AE57CF2C8A1A20A9.F0DCF962F6 552859@lp.airnews.net>

You talk about the Asian is very gifted. You should follow their
example by being polite,
AND QUIET!!!!!!!!!!

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This was, again a "white" idiot pretending to be Asian. Suspecting
this, I succeeded in insulting the white idiot-not for being whit, but
for being an idiot.

Quoting from Message-ID: <rdk191lcntvrmhi0nldfn6mfvi9170gogp@4ax.com>

>I live in Dublin and I'd agree with that study. Plenty of fatties waddling around here.

So are you sure you just aren't alcohol-challenged and are seeing
double. I thin you have pickled what passed for a brain in your empty
head-and your empty head is as empty as your shorts.

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Ok so now the Irish are a RACE? To this idiot I guess the Jews and the
Germans are RACES also? I had a hunch that this bozo was a s Irish as
me (I am one-quarter Irish) and deserved what I gave him I make no
apologies for this statement at all.
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Quoting from Message-ID: <polc61hsggatd6mo6rlfj29tbtib1uvv7e@4ax.com>

Unfortunately most of the idiots here happen to male Anglo-Saxon
idiots.

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The posts here seem to bear that out. I have a hunch that people of
color have nor constructive things to do (that is a compliment n ot a
dig)
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From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Invitation for Bobbi
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:25:09 -0600
Message-ID: <89njp2h10bh09so5vtr175ad5lgd8mni2j@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

Yes 9 out 10 idiots are Caucasian males between 13 and 25. That is the
very group that will triple auto insurance rates for the rest of us
when they reach 16.

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Again a hunch that has been borne out. I also said they tended to be
teenage boys.

You know-SKINHEADS!!!
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From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: How many of the readers her ...
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:24:44 -0600
Message-ID: <bg6rp2hcbb33h23s07cr7jttiltsrnrf22@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

They screwed it up anyway. I said that most if the idiots bothering me
are white Caucasians who are between 13 and 25.

I am willing to wager that males in that other age group belonging to
other racial families have better things to do.

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See above. When they let peole of color into the skin heads then I
will change my attitude. No one has proven me wrong.
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From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Why Are American Women So Fat And Ugly?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:58:48 -0500
Message-ID: <g787c3petbk44blv5dijcuqklcu323s5de@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.men,soc.support.fat-acceptance,alt.support.divorce,alt.support.marriag e
,soc.culture.jewish

Awwww, you say that like it is a bad thing. I bet you are jealous as
hell and are in some third world idiocracy calling the USA the great
Satan.

Your turban is WAAAAAY to tight.

LV

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Again another write teenager. A real Arabic person would not be in
SSFA showing his stupidity. See: Osama bin Ladin. He is a bastard and
a monster, but he is intelligent-something these brain stems are not.
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From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: MSN Money: What if no one were fat?
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 19:30:43 -0500
Message-ID: <a0ok1453k0deq6163ud2lme78ms6j10fj2@4ax.com>

There are many Aryan wannabes in SSFA.

<end quote>
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I stand by that one and there is not doubt in my mind…do you say "8-8"
a lot?
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From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: REPOST: When Trolls, Flame Wars and Cyber-Rage go too Far
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:54:28 -0500
Message-ID: <k55944122k6auiq80a5jfat0f0s1tl16um@4ax.com>

>Then why dd you write several posts speaking negatively about whites? You have yet to offer an explanation for yourself.

OH.....saying that most of the trolls here are white boys under 21?
You know why that people of color do not spend time poking sticks. In
some cases, it could purely financial-they may not have their own
computer. Another reason could be that their parents raised them
better. Yes that is anti parent-not anti whit you shit eating whore.
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Supposition is not racism. I stand by that one too.
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When pressed on how she could discern a person's race from their
writing style, Lady Veteran failed to respond.

Racist and sexist.

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No apologies, brain stem. Your attitude is your problem not mine. I
will change my tune with people of color are allowed to become
Skinheads.
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19. What does Lady Veteran think of Air Force pilots?

Lady Veteran is on the record stating that Air Force pilots are
cowards.

Quoting from Message-ID:
<FD61BA67148006B8.0AC8A33AD0FC8798.555ED8B384D327D 0@lp.airnews.net>

They are most definitely cowards if they can't call a person fat to
their face and reap the benefits their comments so richly deserve.
BTW, I don't find hotshot pilots so brave. They fly up above the war
and could care less where their bombs fall. If they cared, maybe there
would be less war.

<end quote>
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HOT SHOT PILOTS get people killed. No apologies here either. Good
pilots and missions are lost because of hotshots.
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20. Is Lady Veteran, despite being a lesbian, homophobic?

Yes.

Quoting from Message-ID: <qu0571l8r39c8m1ib7a46dv63cai7hig6n@4ax.com>

Well when you get to the sigmoidoscopy just tell him that he is going
where no man has gone before...LOL!!

The idiots on this group sure can't say that.

<end quote>
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Calling me a lesbian is defamation of character. It is not true. The
idiots on SSFA can't do a colonoscopy anyway-their head is in the way.
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From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Whoooeee! Lookit this porker.
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:19:32 -0500
Message-ID: <6l9r835f5emlt0htrij2nomrbn3jd6t9s0@4ax.com>

>Guys who say they like fat women are the ones who have never had a hot chick. This is how they rationalize their lack of quality trim.

You couldn't keep up with a gay man on your best day bubba. Who the
hell are you kidding?

<end quote>
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I asked an honest question and got no reply.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Please limit comments ref LV
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:55:22 -0500
Message-ID: <ki34e318lnq0siri67k4ejo6907b8i2sq8@4ax.com>

Another delusional fool who thinks a pecker will solve everything.
Fuckfaces like you are the reason there are lesbians.

<end quote>
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I stand by that one too.
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21. Lady Veteran is a net loon. Is she also insane in real life?

Yes. In Lady Veteran's own words:

From: bbi@airmail.net (Bobbi Sanchez)
Subject: Jacque champion's Best Friend
Date: 1998/11/09
Message-ID:
<AA5737F4407BF438.75053B83A5011CDC.5BC343E27A26902 5@library-proxy.airnews.n
et>#1/1
Newsgroups: dfw.flame

I am trying to locate a lady named Terri who used to be a friend of
Jacque champion (mainden name Krippen). Both were involved in the
psychic community and Jacque is an experienced Tarot reader. She has
told people that Terri is languishing in some mental asylum and has
probably killed herself. I need to compare notes with Terri because
Jacque is saying the same thing about me.

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Trying to stop a rumor monger is not insanity. Right Jape? All they
way back to 1989?
You must LOVE ME!!!
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22. Was Lady Veteran forging Jean C?

Yes. Proof was posted in Message-ID:
<2H8XKYQV38075.0543865741@Gilgamesh-Frog.org>
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I have never used an anonymous remailer. Not even once. I stand by
what I say and do, unlike the author of this FAQ.
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23. Where does Lady Veteran work?

Lady Veteran is currently unemployed after being terminated, due to
either her Usenet postings or poor job performance, by the MMC Group.

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Lady Veteran is unemployed because of the work of all of you gossip
mongers and innuendo slinger. You have really done a great job of
shooting fish on a barrel. Aren't you proud of yourselves? You have
now become official stalkers. Congrats!

MMC Group
105 Decker Court, Suite 150
Irving, Texas 75062

Phone: 972-893-0100
www.mmcgrp.com

24. Was Lady Veteran evicted from her apartment?

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: A question
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:19:38 -0600
Message-ID: <fj14n210qe47ge5g69nm5poqvl5vqk0eqs@4ax.com>
Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance

> It was she that disclosed the she was evicted from her dwelling because she did not pay the rent.

No one else in the entire universe has ever been evicted due to job
layoff except fir me...

<end quote>
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This never happens in idiot world. It happened to me in 2001. I am
human. Bite me.
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25. Lady Veteran is barely literate. Was she trying to sell writing
services under the alias of 'Wordsmith'?

Yes. Lady Veteran posted this advertisement on Usenet:

Wordsmith Services and Pricing
www.georicites.com/ladyveteran@sbcglobal.net

Resumes (1-2 pages) $35.00
Resumes (additional pages - including addendums) $10.00
Cover Letters $10.00
Envelopes $5.00
Mailing ask for pricing
Dossiers$25.00
Business Cards (50 cards) $15.00
Brochures $40.00
Websites (design only) $100.00
Reports/Term Papers Composition $50.00
Reports/Term Papers Typing only $25.00
Research $20.00 per hour
Personal letters composition $25.00
Personal Letters typing only $10.00
Bumper Stickers $1.50

August Special!!! Get a free custom bumper sticker with each order.
Good until august 31, 2004
Payment can be made by cash or credit card, no checks please A
50%payment is due at beginning of assignment with balance due prior to
delivery.

Thanks!
We look forward to working with you.
The Wordsmith at your service.
We look forward to hearing from you

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Thank you for reaching out and sabotaging my real life. Another case
of stalking
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Quoting Gumshoe McFindy : "[note the creative spelling of geocities.
Typo's aren't usually a good sign in someone who fancies themself a
linguist...HTH]"
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anti-Social behavior is not a good sign in someone who fancies himself
a human being.
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26. Is Lady Veteran a neo Nazi?

Yes. At least she aspires to be one.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Bobbi Sanchez of esoftsolutions.com makes another death
threat.
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:03:20 -0600
Message-ID: <9mj1l3161tsq004l7r9tc9ieml7ntaaajt@4ax.com>

How many swastikas can I draw on your forehead before I run out of
ammo, sock puppet?

<end quote>

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Hell, swastikas are easy to shot. I could have asked him how many
pictures of Mona Lisa could I draw on his stomach before I ran out of
ammo? To Indians, swastikas are symbols of good fortune. He should
have been honored (heh)
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27. Lady Veteran contacted Google not to archive her posts, yet she
brands
those who use "no archive" headers as "cowards". Is this
hypocritical?

Yes, of course it is. This is not the only area where she displays
blatant hypocrisy.
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I have NEVER one asked Google not to archive my postings. If things
were removed or not posted, it was the news server and not Google that
is responsibly.
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28. Did Lady Veteran receive her degree from a "diploma mill"?

Lady Veteran's degree came from Academy International of Santa
Barbara, California. This school has no website, no listed phone
number, no references from alumni, and above all, there is now a
chiropractor's office at Academy International's last known address.

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How many small colleges are in business after 25 years? Again this is
defamation of character. My degree has withstood ALL verification of
education done in the past 25 years. I defy you to prove otherwise.
Not having a current website dies not qualify.
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29. Why does Lady Veteran have such a difficult time composing a
coherent sentence, especially since she runs a business called "The
Wordsmith"?

She has made various excuses, "dyslexia" being the latest.

From: Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: po'folks loans?
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:19:31 -0500
Message-ID: <1crs54llar832ipqtsddvlptru9l6vtadb@4ax.com>
Newsgroups:
soc.support.fat-acceptance,soc.singles,alt.usenet.kooks,dfw.genera l,austin.
general

>She writes at about the the level of a 4th grade student.
>
>Jan

I do not need to justify anything to you, skanky, but since you asked
so nicely...I have a form of dyslexia.

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And so I did. Also, I don't speak "idiot."
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30. Has Lady Veteran won Usenet's coveted 'Kook of the Month' award?

Yes. Lady Veteran swept several awards in April, 2008.

KOOK OF THE MONTH
CLUELESS NEWBIE OF THE MONTH
COWARD OF THE MONTH

Congratulations, Lady Veteran!

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This is the direct responsibility of the poster called JADE. She will
be heald accountablet and she has been advised several times to get a
lawyer.
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31. How can I get in contact with Lady Veteran?

Home phone: xxxxxxxxxx
Work phone: unemployed
Mobile number: xxxxxxxxxx
Personal email: armyvet@bigfoot.com or gr8t_recruiter@yahoo.com or
imagoodrecruiter@gmail.com
Work email: unemployed
Employer: unemployed
Employer website: unemployed

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My thanks to all the brain stems that were instrumental in making that
happen. I can say with all honesty and sincerity that you will get
yours and not at my hand. However if I get the urge to smile broadly I
will know that one or more of you has been cursed in some way.
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LV-Posted to SSFA

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
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"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
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---Network

#10 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM

In article <20080719014608.A73D64E4AA@outpost.zedz.net>,
Sage <sage@notformail.com> wrote:

>* Sujit Bhattacharya, 39, lost 40 pounds in six months
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Remember those numbers for later.

> He had been eating more
>than 2,500 calories a day, perhaps 3,000, so he cut this down to 1,500
>calories a day. That meant losing a pound every two or three days.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Compare with the above.

>"As long as you know how many calories you need and how many calories you
>eat, it's just math," he said.

Um, yeah, or something.

Seth
--
Wow! This math stuff works. -- Tom Morley

#11 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Seth wrote:

>> * Sujit Bhattacharya, 39, lost 40 pounds in six months
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Remember those numbers for later.
>
>> He had been eating more
>> than 2,500 calories a day, perhaps 3,000, so he cut this down to 1,500
>> calories a day. That meant losing a pound every two or three days.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Compare with the above.

Well, let's see...

40 pounds, at 1 pound every 2.5 days, would take 100 days.
6 months, at 30 days per month, is 180 days.

Looks like a reporter failed basic math.

He was losing 1 pound every 4.5 days.

Good catch.

#12 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.support.diet.low-carb.]
On 2008-07-21, The Master <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Seth wrote:
>
>>> * Sujit Bhattacharya, 39, lost 40 pounds in six months
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Remember those numbers for later.
>>
>>> He had been eating more
>>> than 2,500 calories a day, perhaps 3,000, so he cut this down to 1,500
>>> calories a day. That meant losing a pound every two or three days.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Compare with the above.
>
> Well, let's see...
>
> 40 pounds, at 1 pound every 2.5 days, would take 100 days.
> 6 months, at 30 days per month, is 180 days.
>
> Looks like a reporter failed basic math.

No, looks like you're failing reading comprehension.

The reporter is simply reporting Sujit's reasoning.

It's Sujit's reasoning about energy balance which is naive.

> He was losing 1 pound every 4.5 days.

And that is with added exercise, too.

The reason is that the metabolism compensates for changes in intake by
adjusting expenditure. Consequently weight can be maintained on a range of
caloric intake.

If you're maintaining at 3000 calories per day, and then drop the intake to
1500, this doesn't naively translate to a 1500 calorie deficit, because your
caloric expenditure will change in response to the intake drop. And the
metabolism demonstrates both short-term and long-term adaptations.

Also, a given fat loss rate cannot be sustained all the way until you have no
fat left, otherwise every successful dieter could get completely ``shredded''
just by continuing with the same program for a while longer.

If you have a large amount of body fat, then a deficit of X calories quite
neatly translates to the corresponding amount of fat lost, even when X is quite
a large daily figure. Not so for the lean individual. The lean individual who
wants to get leaner faces an increasingly slow fat loss rate. The only way to
accelerate it is drugs, intense exercise or surgical intervention. A naive
increase in the caloric deficit will simply cause wasting of lean mass.

#13 07-22-2008, 03:15 AM

Kaz Kylheku writes:

> The reason is that the metabolism compensates for changes in intake by
> adjusting expenditure. Consequently weight can be maintained on a range of
> caloric intake.

The range is extremely small, and metabolic changes are also insigificantly
small except in extreme cases such as starvation.

> If you're maintaining at 3000 calories per day, and then drop the intake to
> 1500, this doesn't naively translate to a 1500 calorie deficit, because your
> caloric expenditure will change in response to the intake drop. And the
> metabolism demonstrates both short-term and long-term adaptations.

So it might be 1400 or 1600. Still, as I've said, the difference is very
small.

> Also, a given fat loss rate cannot be sustained all the way until you have no
> fat left, otherwise every successful dieter could get completely ``shredded''
> just by continuing with the same program for a while longer.

Every dieter can. People in places where there is very little food manage it
all the time.

> If you have a large amount of body fat, then a deficit of X calories quite
> neatly translates to the corresponding amount of fat lost, even when X is quite
> a large daily figure. Not so for the lean individual. The lean individual who
> wants to get leaner faces an increasingly slow fat loss rate. The only way to
> accelerate it is drugs, intense exercise or surgical intervention. A naive
> increase in the caloric deficit will simply cause wasting of lean mass.

If you have no fat, you should take care not to maintain a deficit in calorie
intake. But that's not a problem for fat people.

#14 07-22-2008, 06:55 AM

To lose weight, eat fewer calories. But don't take it to extremes like
those who follow the REAL Hollywood diet which is starvation.

#15 07-22-2008, 07:36 PM

In article <20080721124332.352@gmail.com>,
Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku@gmail.com> wrote:
>["Followup-To:" header set to alt.support.diet.low-carb.]

and ignored.

>On 2008-07-21, The Master <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Seth wrote:

>The reason is that the metabolism compensates for changes in intake by
>adjusting expenditure.

Mostly by limiting activity.

>If you're maintaining at 3000 calories per day, and then drop the intake to
>1500, this doesn't naively translate to a 1500 calorie deficit, because your
>caloric expenditure will change in response to the intake drop.

If you're maintaining at 3000 Calories/day, you're doing a lot of
work. If you cut to 1500 and continues doing the same amount of work,
there is a 1500 Calorie deficit. If you stop doing that much work,
the deficit drops.

>Also, a given fat loss rate cannot be sustained all the way until you have no
>fat left, otherwise every successful dieter could get completely ``shredded''
>just by continuing with the same program for a while longer.

They mostly lose muscle, too, so they won't get shredded.

Also, energy expenditure for a given amount of activity drops with
body weight.

Seth
--
There's no amount of rudeness in the world that can not be cured by the
judicious application of extreme violence. -- Roland Lee

#16 07-22-2008, 10:49 PM

On 2008-07-22, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kaz Kylheku writes:
>
>> The reason is that the metabolism compensates for changes in intake by
>> adjusting expenditure. Consequently weight can be maintained on a range of
>> caloric intake.
>
> The range is extremely small, and metabolic changes are also insigificantly
> small except in extreme cases such as starvation.

I've already cited research which shows that the adapations in energy
expenditure are not small.

Like I said before, cite something or go away.

>> If you're maintaining at 3000 calories per day, and then drop the intake to
>> 1500, this doesn't naively translate to a 1500 calorie deficit, because your
>> caloric expenditure will change in response to the intake drop. And the
>> metabolism demonstrates both short-term and long-term adaptations.
>
> So it might be 1400 or 1600. Still, as I've said, the difference is very
> small.
>
>> Also, a given fat loss rate cannot be sustained all the way until you have no
>> fat left, otherwise every successful dieter could get completely ``shredded''
>> just by continuing with the same program for a while longer.
>
> Every dieter can.

``Can'' is quite a different word from ``does''.

Please look up the paper entitled ``A limit on the energy transfer rate from
the human fat store in hypophagia''.

In this paper the finding is given that each pound of body fat can yield about
32 calories of energy per day, and this limits the amount of fat you can lose
by creating a deficit. It is hypothesized that fat mobilization may be
increased by intense exercise or drugs.

So if you have 10 pounds of body fat, about 320 kcal is your maximum deficit
for losing only fat. At that rate it takes 11 days to lose a pound.

From the paper's results, we can extrapolate a half life for the fat store of
86 days. (I had to apply, like, logarithms and stuff to figure this out, way
over your head).

In other words, fat loss follows an inverse exponential curve, and it takes at
least twelve weeks to cut your body fat in half, whether you have a little of
it or a lot. The less you have, the longer it takes to lose more.

> People in places where there is very little food manage it
> all the time.

That is false; people who starve severely usually become ``skinny fat''. Small
circumferences of torso and limbs, but not much muscle definition.

> If you have no fat, you should take care not to maintain a deficit in calorie
> intake.

That should read: ``If you have very low body fat ...''.

If you have /no/ fat, you're either an impossible human being or a dead one.

#17 07-22-2008, 10:49 PM

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:20:23 +0000 (UTC), sethb@panix.com (Seth)
wrote:

>In article <20080721124332.352@gmail.com>,
>Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku@gmail.com> wrote:
>>["Followup-To:" header set to alt.support.diet.low-carb.]
>
>and ignored.
>
Of course it is. Do you like being a pest?

>>On 2008-07-21, The Master <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote: