CNN: Woman loses 180 pounds, gains celebrity status

The improvement in this woman's appearance is amazing!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....jennifer.marne
ll/index.html

* Woman loses 180 pounds, gains celebrity status
* Jennifer Marnell struggled with weight, emotional overeating most of her
life
* By the age of 27, she maxed out at her heaviest weight of 300 pounds
* Marnell lost 180 pounds through exercise and a low-fat, low-calorie diet
* She's now a fitness instructor and plans to write a book to inspire
others

By Jackie Adams
CNN

DOUGLASVILLE, Georgia (CNN) -- Like many young girls, Jennifer Marnell
always dreamed that one day she'd become famous.

Bubbling with personality and quite the ham -- she was no stranger to
performing. Marnell loved singing, dancing and acting in local plays while
growing up on the outskirts of Atlanta, Georgia.

Even though her family showered her with adoration and unconditional
support -- Marnell was hiding something that she was afraid to share with
anyone.

Since the age of 8, she struggled with her weight.

"I was the only one in the whole family who was overweight," Marnell
recalled. "[They] were always supportive and told me I was beautiful ... I
didn't realize how depressed I was because my family loved me no matter
what."

But other people weren't so nice. Marnell says classmates and other people
teased or ridiculed her about her weight. Instead of talking about her
feelings -- she turned to food for comfort.

As she ate to soothe her pain -- Marnell's weight spiraled out of control.
Watch more on Jennifer Marnell's journey »

"It got out of control over the years because it became an addiction," said
Marnell. "Food didn't talk back to me and didn't tell me no ... I didn't
know how to stop and listen to my body."

Working as a nanny at the age of 27, Marnell was 5-foot-tall and weighed
300 pounds.

The wife and mother says a series of embarrassing moments such as not
fitting into a restaurant booth, running out of breath while walking and
lacking the energy to play ball or skate with her daughter -- took an
emotional and physical toll on her health. But the final straw came during
a trip to an amusement park with her family.

"We were at Six Flags waiting on a ride and we waited for an
hour-and-a-half," said Marnell. "When we got on, I couldn't latch the belts
because I was too big and they had to ask me to get off."

Devastated by the incident, Marnell says she broke down in tears and had a
heart-to-heart talk with herself. Afraid that she might die before the age
of 30, she was tired of being a "fat mom" and wanted to set a good example
for her daughter.

After the mental pep-talk, Marnell started her weight loss journey by
joining a gym. She started by exercising in the women's-only section and
ate a low-fat, low-calorie diet. After a few months, she'd lost 50 pounds.
The weight loss boosted her confidence and she decided to try a water
aerobics class which was a lot less stressful on her bones and joints.

Over the next two years, Marnell continued taking group fitness classes,
hired a personal trainer to get past a plateau and eventually lost 180
pounds. CNN I-Reporters share weight loss photos »

After reaching her goal weight of 120 pounds, she decided to start a new
career as a fitness instructor and provides personal training advice on her
Web site http://www.fitbyjen.com/. One of the most important lessons she's
conquered is emotional eating.

"You've got to learn to talk through your problems instead of using food,"
Marnell says. "An alcoholic can't just have one drink. I will never eat a
Snickers bar because that is my one weakness ... the one thing I won't
have."

The weight loss has also helped her realize another dream -- being in the
limelight.

In January, she was featured on the "Oprah Winfrey Show" and in People
Magazine's "Half Their Size" issue and will appear on the game show "Don't
Forget the Lyrics" with Wayne Brady. She's also touring the country as a
spokesperson for Gold's Gym and has just inked a book deal to tell her
weight-loss story.

Marnell says all of the recent attention has been a bit overwhelming but
she's enjoying every minute of her new career and life.

"It's made life more exciting," said Marnell. "I still feel like the same
person on the inside, I have the same heart. But the outside, it's just
enhanced the inside even more."

What advice does she have for other people who want to lose weight?

The toughest part of losing weight, according to Marnell, is staying
mentally focused. She recommends taking "baby steps," trying not to do
everything at once or focus on how much you have to lose and joining an
online support group.

"Learn to accept yourself for who you are," Marnell advises. "It can be
done ... it's not going to be easy -- but it can be done."

On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
stuff here :

>Marnell was 5-foot-tall and weighed
>300 pounds.
>
>The wife and mother says a series of embarrassing moments such as not
>fitting into a restaurant booth, running out of breath while walking and
>lacking the energy to play ball or skate with her daughter -- took an
>emotional and physical toll on her health. But the final straw came during
>a trip to an amusement park with her family.
>
>"We were at Six Flags waiting on a ride and we waited for an
>hour-and-a-half," said Marnell. "When we got on, I couldn't latch the belts
>because I was too big and they had to ask me to get off."
>
>Devastated by the incident, Marnell says she broke down in tears and had a
>heart-to-heart talk with herself. Afraid that she might die before the age
>of 30, she was tired of being a "fat mom" and wanted to set a good example
>for her daughter.
>
>After the mental pep-talk, Marnell started her weight loss journey by
>joining a gym. She started by exercising in the women's-only section and
>ate a low-fat, low-calorie diet. After a few months, she'd lost 50 pounds.
>The weight loss boosted her confidence and she decided to try a water
>aerobics class which was a lot less stressful on her bones and joints.
>
>Over the next two years, Marnell continued taking group fitness classes,
>hired a personal trainer to get past a plateau and eventually lost 180
>pounds. CNN I-Reporters share weight loss photos »
>
>After reaching her goal weight of 120 pounds, she decided to start a new
>career as a fitness instructor and provides personal training advice on her
>Web site http://www.fitbyjen.com/.


SURE, she did a great thing, a great personal thing, she should be
proud.
However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.

And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.

BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.

On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote:

>The improvement in this woman's appearance is amazing!


So I guess everything is ok now that the is eye candy for YOU!!! That
is a new low, even for a brain stem.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
--------------------------------------------
"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
----------------------------------------------

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:52:58 -0500, Always Learning
<noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:

>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
>stuff here :
>However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
>you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.

Are you one of those parents that asks a kid with four "A"s on his
report card and one "c", you would ask him what the "c" was for? That
is true idiocy.
>
>And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
>her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.

Well out of 6-7 newsgroups, which one is THIS group.
>
>BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.
>
>
Too late brain stem. The damage is already done.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
--------------------------------------------
"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
----------------------------------------------

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:04:33 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
wrote this stuff here :

>On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:52:58 -0500, Always Learning
><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>
>>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
>>stuff here :
>>However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
>>you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>
>Are you one of those parents that asks a kid with four "A"s on his
>report card and one "c", you would ask him what the "c" was for? That
>is true idiocy.
>>
>>And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
>>her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>
>Well out of 6-7 newsgroups, which one is THIS group.
>>
>>BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.
>>
>>
>Too late brain stem. The damage is already done.

Unless this woman is YOU their is no 'damage'

You're insane.

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:00:58 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
wrote this stuff here :

>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote:
>
>>The improvement in this woman's appearance is amazing!
>
>
>So I guess everything is ok now that the is eye candy for YOU!!! That
>is a new low, even for a brain stem.

If you think men AND WOMEN don't judge people on how they look you're
delusional.

On Mar 1, 6:52*pm, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
> On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, m...@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
> stuff here :
>
>
>
>
>
> >Marnell was 5-foot-tall and weighed
> >300 pounds.
>
> >The wife and mother says a series of embarrassing moments such as not
> >fitting into a restaurant booth, running out of breath while walking and
> >lacking the energy to play ball or skate with her daughter -- took an
> >emotional and physical toll on her health. But the final straw came during
> >a trip to an amusement park with her family.
>
> >"We were at Six Flags waiting on a ride and we waited for an
> >hour-and-a-half," said Marnell. "When we got on, I couldn't latch the belts
> >because I was too big and they had to ask me to get off."
>
> >Devastated by the incident, Marnell says she broke down in tears and had a
> >heart-to-heart talk with herself. Afraid that she might die before the age
> >of 30, she was tired of being a "fat mom" and wanted to set a good example
> >for her daughter.
>
> >After the mental pep-talk, Marnell started her weight loss journey by
> >joining a gym. She started by exercising in the women's-only section and
> >ate a low-fat, low-calorie diet. After a few months, she'd lost 50 pounds..
> >The weight loss boosted her confidence and she decided to try a water
> >aerobics class which was a lot less stressful on her bones and joints.
>
> >Over the next two years, Marnell continued taking group fitness classes,
> >hired a personal trainer to get past a plateau and eventually lost 180
> >pounds. CNN I-Reporters share weight loss photos »
>
> >After reaching her goal weight of 120 pounds, she decided to start a new
> >career as a fitness instructor and provides personal training advice on her
> >Web sitehttp://www.fitbyjen.com/.
>
> SURE, she did a great thing, a great personal thing, she should be
> proud.
> However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
> you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>
> And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
> her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>
> BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.- Hide quotedtext -
>
> - Show quoted text -

She looks pretty good to me. I think a lot of her weight is in her
chest.

DK

"dooberheim" <dooberheim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10b56fd4-7817-4705-92ac-9b432f66f4f0@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 1, 6:52 pm, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
> On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, m...@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
> stuff here :
>
>
>
>
>
> >Marnell was 5-foot-tall and weighed
> >300 pounds.
>
> >The wife and mother says a series of embarrassing moments such as not
> >fitting into a restaurant booth, running out of breath while walking and
> >lacking the energy to play ball or skate with her daughter -- took an
> >emotional and physical toll on her health. But the final straw came
> >during
> >a trip to an amusement park with her family.
>
> >"We were at Six Flags waiting on a ride and we waited for an
> >hour-and-a-half," said Marnell. "When we got on, I couldn't latch the
> >belts
> >because I was too big and they had to ask me to get off."
>
> >Devastated by the incident, Marnell says she broke down in tears and had
> >a
> >heart-to-heart talk with herself. Afraid that she might die before the
> >age
> >of 30, she was tired of being a "fat mom" and wanted to set a good
> >example
> >for her daughter.
>
> >After the mental pep-talk, Marnell started her weight loss journey by
> >joining a gym. She started by exercising in the women's-only section and
> >ate a low-fat, low-calorie diet. After a few months, she'd lost 50
> >pounds.
> >The weight loss boosted her confidence and she decided to try a water
> >aerobics class which was a lot less stressful on her bones and joints.
>
> >Over the next two years, Marnell continued taking group fitness classes,
> >hired a personal trainer to get past a plateau and eventually lost 180
> >pounds. CNN I-Reporters share weight loss photos »
>
> >After reaching her goal weight of 120 pounds, she decided to start a new
> >career as a fitness instructor and provides personal training advice on
> >her
> >Web sitehttp://www.fitbyjen.com/.
>
> SURE, she did a great thing, a great personal thing, she should be
> proud.
> However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
> you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>
> And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
> her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>
> BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.- Hide quoted
> text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

She looks pretty good to me. I think a lot of her weight is in her
chest.

DK

120 pounds for someone who is lifting weights and carries more muscle than
fat is fine. Look at her arms...her body fat must be fairly low to show that
much muscle tone.

I'm to the point in my life where I'd rather be fit with less fat and not
worry about the scale. I've been 120 pounds and in horrible shape, I'll
take 130 and lower body fat any day. The fact is, you can't just go by
height/weight charts to prove "fitness". Muscle mass weighs more but looks
leaner if the fat on the body is lower.

I have a friend who is about 5' 1" and weighed 105 at her lowest. She was in
horrible shape, weak, sick all the time. Just because she fell into the
charts, she thought she was good. She looked sickly and terrible.

Melissa

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:27:59 -0500, Always Learning
<noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:04:33 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>wrote this stuff here :
>
>>On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:52:58 -0500, Always Learning
>><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>>
>>>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
>>>stuff here :
>>>However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
>>>you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>>
>>Are you one of those parents that asks a kid with four "A"s on his
>>report card and one "c", you would ask him what the "c" was for? That
>>is true idiocy.
>>>
>>>And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
>>>her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>>
>>Well out of 6-7 newsgroups, which one is THIS group.
>>>
>>>BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.
>>>
>>>
>>Too late brain stem. The damage is already done.
>
>Unless this woman is YOU their is no 'damage'
>
>You're insane.
>
Excuse me brain stem-how can I be undamaged and insane at the same
time?

Is that like a whore who is celibate?

Is that like a Nazi communist?

Is that like 1984?

You sumbitches need to cooperate on your insults.

OR...get new writers. They are not on strike anymore.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
--------------------------------------------
"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
----------------------------------------------

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:28:44 -0500, Always Learning
<noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:00:58 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>wrote this stuff here :
>
>>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote:
>>
>>>The improvement in this woman's appearance is amazing!
>>
>>
>>So I guess everything is ok now that the is eye candy for YOU!!! That
>>is a new low, even for a brain stem.
>
>If you think men AND WOMEN don't judge people on how they look you're
>delusional.
>
I never said it didn't happen. I said it SHOULDN'T happen where the
other person is hurt.

And if you think that people are just going to be trampled on by the
elephants in YOUR circus, you should think again.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
--------------------------------------------
"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
----------------------------------------------

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:10:38 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
wrote this stuff here :

>>If you think men AND WOMEN don't judge people on how they look you're
>>delusional.
>>
>I never said it didn't happen. I said it SHOULDN'T happen where the
>other person is hurt.

We're not 8 year olds anymore, sorry. ADULTS can and do judge people
all the time for looks and other reasons.

Again, are you the woman talked about in the CNN article?

If not then please stop acting so wounded.

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:08:16 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
wrote this stuff here :

>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:27:59 -0500, Always Learning
><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:04:33 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>>wrote this stuff here :
>>
>>>On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:52:58 -0500, Always Learning
>>><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
>>>>stuff here :
>>>>However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
>>>>you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>>>
>>>Are you one of those parents that asks a kid with four "A"s on his
>>>report card and one "c", you would ask him what the "c" was for? That
>>>is true idiocy.
>>>>
>>>>And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
>>>>her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>>>
>>>Well out of 6-7 newsgroups, which one is THIS group.
>>>>
>>>>BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Too late brain stem. The damage is already done.
>>
>>Unless this woman is YOU their is no 'damage'
>>
>>You're insane.
>>
>Excuse me brain stem-how can I be undamaged and insane at the same
>time?
>
>Is that like a whore who is celibate?
>
>Is that like a Nazi communist?
>
>Is that like 1984?
>
>You sumbitches need to cooperate on your insults.
>
>OR...get new writers. They are not on strike anymore.
>

You FAKED outrage at my opinion, as though I was speaking of YOU.

You don't even know the woman and you're all worried about what I say
about her?

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:42:29 -0500, Always Learning
<noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:10:38 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>wrote this stuff here :
>
>>>If you think men AND WOMEN don't judge people on how they look you're
>>>delusional.
>>>
>>I never said it didn't happen. I said it SHOULDN'T happen where the
>>other person is hurt.
>
>We're not 8 year olds anymore, sorry. ADULTS can and do judge people
>all the time for looks and other reasons.
>
>Again, are you the woman talked about in the CNN article?
>
>If not then please stop acting so wounded.
>
You stop acting so critical. Yes you are supposed to be an adult but
you act like a school yard bully. Anyone or anything even a little
different seems to be a target.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
--------------------------------------------
"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
----------------------------------------------

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:40:57 -0500, Always Learning
<noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:08:16 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>wrote this stuff here :
>
>>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:27:59 -0500, Always Learning
>><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:04:33 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>>>wrote this stuff here :
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:52:58 -0500, Always Learning
>>>><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
>>>>>stuff here :
>>>>>However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
>>>>>you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>>>>
>>>>Are you one of those parents that asks a kid with four "A"s on his
>>>>report card and one "c", you would ask him what the "c" was for? That
>>>>is true idiocy.
>>>>>
>>>>>And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
>>>>>her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>>>>
>>>>Well out of 6-7 newsgroups, which one is THIS group.
>>>>>
>>>>>BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Too late brain stem. The damage is already done.
>>>
>>>Unless this woman is YOU their is no 'damage'
>>>
>>>You're insane.
>>>
>>Excuse me brain stem-how can I be undamaged and insane at the same
>>time?
>>
>>Is that like a whore who is celibate?
>>
>>Is that like a Nazi communist?
>>
>>Is that like 1984?
>>
>>You sumbitches need to cooperate on your insults.
>>
>>OR...get new writers. They are not on strike anymore.
>>
>
>You FAKED outrage at my opinion, as though I was speaking of YOU.
>
>You don't even know the woman and you're all worried about what I say
>about her?
>
She is a fat person and you don't know her either. She deserves the
same respect that all decent people deserve unless she demonstrates
otherwise.

and no, brain stems, her fat does not make her bad.

LV

"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."

---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
--------------------------------------------
"A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
change the subject."

---Winston Churchill
----------------------------------------------

"Lady Veteran" <armyvet@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:0nvrs3th7vpq1grdfb2uktai26hmu414vi@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:40:57 -0500, Always Learning
> <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:08:16 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>>wrote this stuff here :
>>
>>>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:27:59 -0500, Always Learning
>>><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:04:33 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>>>>wrote this stuff here :
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:52:58 -0500, Always Learning
>>>>><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, mary@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
>>>>>>stuff here :
>>>>>>However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
>>>>>>you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you one of those parents that asks a kid with four "A"s on his
>>>>>report card and one "c", you would ask him what the "c" was for? That
>>>>>is true idiocy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
>>>>>>her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well out of 6-7 newsgroups, which one is THIS group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Too late brain stem. The damage is already done.
>>>>
>>>>Unless this woman is YOU their is no 'damage'
>>>>
>>>>You're insane.
>>>>
>>>Excuse me brain stem-how can I be undamaged and insane at the same
>>>time?
>>>
>>>Is that like a whore who is celibate?
>>>
>>>Is that like a Nazi communist?
>>>
>>>Is that like 1984?
>>>
>>>You sumbitches need to cooperate on your insults.
>>>
>>>OR...get new writers. They are not on strike anymore.
>>>
>>
>>You FAKED outrage at my opinion, as though I was speaking of YOU.
>>
>>You don't even know the woman and you're all worried about what I say
>>about her?
>>
> She is a fat person and you don't know her either. She deserves the
> same respect that all decent people deserve unless she demonstrates
> otherwise.

Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or drug
addict.

>
> and no, brain stems, her fat does not make her bad.
>
> LV
>
> "I rode a tank and held a general's rank
> When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."
>
> ---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
> --------------------------------------------
> "A fanatic cannot change his mind and will not
> change the subject."
>
> ---Winston Churchill
> ----------------------------------------------

On Mar 4, 11:50*pm, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Lady Veteran" <army...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0nvrs3th7vpq1grdfb2uktai26hmu414vi@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:40:57 -0500, Always Learning
> > <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:08:16 -0600, Lady Veteran <army...@bigfoot.com>
> >>wrote this stuff here :
>
> >>>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:27:59 -0500, Always Learning
> >>><noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
>
> >>>>On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:04:33 -0600, Lady Veteran <army...@bigfoot.com>
> >>>>wrote this stuff here :
>
> >>>>>On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:52:58 -0500, Always Learning
> >>>>><noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>On 1 Mar 2008 14:34:27 -0000, m...@noemailplz.com (Mary) wrote this
> >>>>>>stuff here :
> >>>>>>However if anyone thinks 5 feet tall even @ 120 pounds is 'fit' then
> >>>>>>you're probably blind or have lowered your standards a lot.
>
> >>>>>Are you one of those parents that asks a kid with four "A"s on his
> >>>>>report card and one "c", you would ask him what *the "c" was for? That
> >>>>>is true idiocy.
>
> >>>>>>And unless she is a member of THIS NG don't feel the need to come to
> >>>>>>her defense, I'm SURE she'll never see this post.
>
> >>>>>Well out of 6-7 newsgroups, which one is THIS group.
>
> >>>>>>BUT Good for her, she should feel very very proud of herself.
>
> >>>>>Too late brain stem. The damage is already done.
>
> >>>>Unless this woman is YOU their is no 'damage'
>
> >>>>You're insane.
>
> >>>Excuse me brain stem-how can I be undamaged and insane at the same
> >>>time?
>
> >>>Is that like a whore who is celibate?
>
> >>>Is that like a Nazi communist?
>
> >>>Is that like 1984?
>
> >>>You sumbitches need to cooperate on your insults.
>
> >>>OR...get new writers. They are not on strike anymore.
>
> >>You FAKED outrage at my opinion, as though I was speaking of YOU.
>
> >>You don't even know the woman and you're all worried about what I say
> >>about her?
>
> > She is a fat person and you don't know her either. She deserves the
> > same respect that all decent people deserve unless she demonstrates
> > otherwise.
>
> Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or drug
> addict.

I am not sure. I used to be fat, and I don't know if I would have
liked to be treated that way. At the same time I do avoid fat people
myself these day, I am bit ashamed to admit it but I did turned down a
date b/c she was... well, what I used to be. Keep in mind I am talking
330 pound and up...

>
>
>
> > and no, brain stems, her fat does not make her bad.
>
> > LV

PS: That women (correct link is below) doesn't look fat to me. I might
add she's quite sexy.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet....nifer.marnell/

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:50:26 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote this stuff here :

>Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or drug
>addict.


VERY good observation David!

On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:03:55 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
wrote this stuff here :

>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:42:29 -0500, Always Learning
><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:10:38 -0600, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
>>wrote this stuff here :
>>
>>>>If you think men AND WOMEN don't judge people on how they look you're
>>>>delusional.
>>>>
>>>I never said it didn't happen. I said it SHOULDN'T happen where the
>>>other person is hurt.
>>
>>We're not 8 year olds anymore, sorry. ADULTS can and do judge people
>>all the time for looks and other reasons.
>>
>>Again, are you the woman talked about in the CNN article?
>>
>>If not then please stop acting so wounded.
>>
>You stop acting so critical. Yes you are supposed to be an adult but
>you act like a school yard bully. Anyone or anything even a little
>different seems to be a target.

I'm not a bully. I'm just not as blind as some people in this ng seem
to be.

You are judged on how you look and that is a fact none of us can
change.

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Lady Veteran wrote:

> You stop acting so critical. Yes you are supposed to be an adult but
> you act like a school yard bully. Anyone or anything even a little
> different seems to be a target.

Think about it though... If the size nazis didn't like to pick on or
otherwise bully others, they wouldn't be posting or cross posting to a
size ACCEPTANCE group when they attack people of size...

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, David wrote:

> Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or drug
> addict.

Following that same line of thought, how much respect does your typical
size bigot asshole deserve?

"The Master" <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0803051556450.25007@sdf.lonesta r.org...
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, David wrote:
>
>> Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or
>> drug
>> addict.
>
> Following that same line of thought, how much respect does your typical
> size bigot asshole deserve?

Who are you calling a bigot, Asshole?

"Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote in message
news:3vdts3lpvpcddc6s4jtp5hsc0tmhv3fod7@zzz.com...
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:50:26 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote this stuff here :
>
>>Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or
>>drug
>>addict.
>
>
> VERY good observation David!
>
-

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, David wrote:

>>> Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or
>>> drug addict.
>>
>> Following that same line of thought, how much respect does your typical
>> size bigot asshole deserve?
>
> Who are you calling a bigot, Asshole?

Technically, I didn't call anyone a bigot. I simply asked how much
respect that type of person would deserve... You seem to be a little
touchy on the subject, I wonder why...

So how about it, how much respect does your typical size bigot asshole
deserve? I'm waiting...

"The Master" <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0803051628350.25007@sdf.lonesta r.org...
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, David wrote:
>
>>>> Fat people deserve the same respect that you would give an alcoholic or
>>>> drug addict.
>>>
>>> Following that same line of thought, how much respect does your typical
>>> size bigot asshole deserve?
>>
>> Who are you calling a bigot, Asshole?
>
> Technically, I didn't call anyone a bigot. I simply asked how much
> respect that type of person would deserve... You seem to be a little
> touchy on the subject, I wonder why...
>
> So how about it, how much respect does your typical size bigot asshole
> deserve? I'm waiting...
>

This much (holding arms around 12" apart)
>

"The Master" <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0803051537440.25007@sdf.lonesta r.org...
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Lady Veteran wrote:
>
>> You stop acting so critical. Yes you are supposed to be an adult but
>> you act like a school yard bully. Anyone or anything even a little
>> different seems to be a target.
>
> Think about it though... If the size nazis didn't like to pick on or
> otherwise bully others, they wouldn't be posting or cross posting to a
> size ACCEPTANCE group when they attack people of size...

People of size? All people are 'of size'. If you mean 'slobs' why not just
say so? "People of size" ha ha ha ha!!!! that's rich!

>

"The Master" <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0803051705410.25007@sdf.lonesta r.org...
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, David wrote:
>
>>> So how about it, how much respect does your typical size bigot asshole
>>> deserve? I'm waiting...
>>
>> This much (holding arms around 12" apart)
>
> Thanks for the answer. Now I AM calling you a size bigot. See how that
> works... Feel free to bitch and moan about it now. You jumped the gun
> before.

Tell you what. If you call me a size bigot, I will call you a meany head.

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, David wrote:

>> So how about it, how much respect does your typical size bigot asshole
>> deserve? I'm waiting...
>
> This much (holding arms around 12" apart)

Thanks for the answer. Now I AM calling you a size bigot. See how that
works... Feel free to bitch and moan about it now. You jumped the gun
before.

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, David wrote:

> Tell you what. If you call me a size bigot, I will call you a meany head.

Or you can just not say that fat people deserve the respect one would give
a drug user, and we will both be happy... You won't be a bigot, I won't
call you a bigot. It's a win-win, don't you think? But if you insist on
defending such attatudes, then I'll accept the label "meany head".

"The Master" <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0803051725060.17059@sdf.lonesta r.org...
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, David wrote:
>
>> Tell you what. If you call me a size bigot, I will call you a meany head.
>
> Or you can just not say that fat people deserve the respect one would give
> a drug user, and we will both be happy... You won't be a bigot, I won't
> call you a bigot. It's a win-win, don't you think? But if you insist on
> defending such attatudes, then I'll accept the label "meany head".
>

OK maybe we are getting somewhere. I do admit I am a bigot. BUT bigots are
people as well and deserve respect, don't you think? A bigot has human
failings not much different from a substance abuser. And bigots often are
that way as a product of their environment. It you are a bigot you have
ingrained prejudices that are not easy to shake. Do you see my point? You
are a bigot if you are "one who is utterly intolerant of any different
belief or opinion". Your dislike of bigots like me would also make you a
bigot. So if you show me some respect I will also show you respect and then
it will be win win and everyone is happy.

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Always Learning wrote:

> You FAKED outrage at my opinion, as though I was speaking of YOU.

You post a reply to a note cross-posted to a number of diet forums, as
well as a fat acceptance group, talk about how a 5 foot tall woman who
weighs 120 is fat, and are then shocked when people object to it.

I would be inclined to believe that the only think faked around here is
you.

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Always Learning wrote:

> We're not 8 year olds anymore, sorry. ADULTS can and do judge people
> all the time for looks and other reasons.

Yeppers. And we already judged you, so there ya go.

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Mary wrote:

> Since the age of 8, she struggled with her weight.

And let me guess, she lost the weight over the past 2 years... Post a
followup article after she kept it off for 5 years, THEN I'll care.
Anyone can LOSE weight by diet and exercise. The problem is, you have to
constantly focus on it for the rest of your life to keep it off. Once you
stop "dieting", it comes back. ONLY 11% of all dieters can keep it off
for 5 years.

> Working as a nanny at the age of 27, Marnell was 5-foot-tall and weighed
> 300 pounds.

So, she's 5 foot t