THIS is considered a "plus-size" model?!?!?

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, John Baker wrote:

>> My 70 year old grandmother wants nothing other then to hurry up and die.
>> She is fed up with life, and wants to go. The only problem is, she keeps
>> having another day, and it pisses her off to no end. Sorry, but I don't
>> want to get to that point, do you?
>
> What makes you think you have to? It's all a matter of how you look at
> life, my friend.

What's the point of having a long life?
Smoking? People say smoking makes you live shorter.
Drinking? People say drinking makes you live shorter.
Drugs? People say drugs make you live shorter.
Over eating? People say over eating makes you live shorter.

All the reasons to enjoy life are causes of a short one... Live long and
be dull? No thanks, I'd rather go out with a bang.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:00:14 +0000, The Master
<tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, John Baker wrote:
>
>>> My 70 year old grandmother wants nothing other then to hurry up and die.
>>> She is fed up with life, and wants to go. The only problem is, she keeps
>>> having another day, and it pisses her off to no end. Sorry, but I don't
>>> want to get to that point, do you?
>>
>> What makes you think you have to? It's all a matter of how you look at
>> life, my friend.
>
>What's the point of having a long life?
>Smoking? People say smoking makes you live shorter.
>Drinking? People say drinking makes you live shorter.
>Drugs? People say drugs make you live shorter.
>Over eating? People say over eating makes you live shorter.
>
>All the reasons to enjoy life are causes of a short one... Live long and
>be dull? No thanks, I'd rather go out with a bang.


If smoking, drinking, getting stoned and stuffing my face were my only
reasons for living, perhaps I'd agree with you. Fortunately, my life
is a bit richer than that.

No offense, son, but you don't impress me as being very bright.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, John Baker wrote:

> If smoking, drinking, getting stoned and stuffing my face were my only
> reasons for living, perhaps I'd agree with you. Fortunately, my life
> is a bit richer than that.

I didn't include video games or sex...

> No offense, son, but you don't impress me as being very bright.

OOoooo... Personal attack... You have me shaking in fear from the
obvious superiority of your intelect.

The Master wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, John Baker wrote:
>
>> If smoking, drinking, getting stoned and stuffing my face were my
>> only reasons for living, perhaps I'd agree with you. Fortunately, my
>> life is a bit richer than that.
>
> I didn't include video games or sex...
>
>> No offense, son, but you don't impress me as being very bright.
>
> OOoooo... Personal attack... You have me shaking in fear from the
> obvious superiority of your intelect.

Thre are those who play video games and those that write them.

The Master wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Mike Painter wrote:
>
>> If you think that happens at 40 or 50 or 60 or 70 or 80 it probably
>> will - to you.
>
> My 70 year old grandmother wants nothing other then to hurry up and
> die. She is fed up with life, and wants to go. The only problem is,
> she keeps having another day, and it pisses her off to no end. Sorry, but
> I don't want to get to that point, do you?

One of the women I worked with today is 84 and she walks four miles every
day. Many of the people there are well over 70 and still going strong.
The 80 year old arond rhe corner works in her yard a good bit of almost
every day.

If you grandmother wants to go that is her choice but at 68 I still work a
lot and just recently stopped responding to fire and rescue calls. I've also
just started a new business, am on the Fire departments board, still do a
bit of coding for fun.

There are any number of simple painless ways to kill your self and I'de
certainly consider it if in bad healt.
If there is nothing wrong with heer physically she should do something.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:00:14 +0000, The Master wrote:
> What's the point of having a long life?

Says someone who is clearly under 30. And quite possibly under 20.

Son, the point of having a long life is that you'll be at the end of it
quickly enough regardless. There's no sense at all in rushing things.
It goes by _quite_ quickly enough as it is.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Frank Mayhar wrote:

>> What's the point of having a long life?
>
> Says someone who is clearly under 30. And quite possibly under 20.

LOL! Don't get angry with me, that you kept waiting, kept putting things
off. Now that you are at the end, there are things you want to do, but
not enough "time" to do them all...

"Oh, I wanted to go to Greece... I wanted to go to Italy... I wanted to
see the Vatican, I wanted to see Delphi," blah blah blah... Guess what
sweet cheeks, I already have... I watched glass blowing in Florence, saw
the Sistine Chapel and Saint Peter's Basilica, and even saw chariot groves
on the streets of Pompeii. Ever seen the light show at the Acropolis? I
have...

There is a tapestry in the Vatican Museum... As you view it from the
left, it shows a few men standing behind a table. The corner of the
table, and their eyes, point directly at you. As you walk to the right,
the men's eyes, as well as the table corner, follow you. IT'S THE DESIGN
ON A FRICKIN RUG, and it can do that! I don't remember who the men were
supposed to be, but I vividly remember them following me...

In the Athens national museum, they have a collection of some of the best
preserved ancient greek coins in the world. Two large rooms, housing only
a small fraction of their total collection. I had the honor of seeing
coins (behind bullet proof glass), that most numismatists can't even see
pictures of.

> Son, the point of having a long life is that you'll be at the end of it
> quickly enough regardless.

If you do things early, when you have the chance to remember them and
treasure the experience for many years to come, you don't need a long
life.

> There's no sense at all in rushing things.
> It goes by _quite_ quickly enough as it is.

Thus the cause of your lack of time to do it all.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:32:19 +0000, The Master
<tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:

>There is a tapestry in the Vatican Museum... As you view it from the
>left, it shows a few men standing behind a table. The corner of the
>table, and their eyes, point directly at you. As you walk to the right,
>the men's eyes, as well as the table corner, follow you. IT'S THE DESIGN
>ON A FRICKIN RUG, and it can do that! I don't remember who the men were
>supposed to be, but I vividly remember them following me...

Drugs do that. And I had a drinking glass once with a dog on it that
did that.

>In the Athens national museum, they have a collection of some of the best
>preserved ancient greek coins in the world. Two large rooms, housing only
>a small fraction of their total collection. I had the honor of seeing
>coins (behind bullet proof glass), that most numismatists can't even see
>pictures of.

Coins. Wow. Ever seen a sex show in the Philippines?

>> Son, the point of having a long life is that you'll be at the end of it
>> quickly enough regardless.
>
>If you do things early, when you have the chance to remember them and
>treasure the experience for many years to come, you don't need a long
>life.

I traveled the world all through my 20's and had a blast. French
women!!! Still want to live to 100 though.

> There's no sense at all in rushing things.
>> It goes by _quite_ quickly enough as it is.
>
>Thus the cause of your lack of time to do it all.

You can never do it all.
~GJ~

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Gemini Jackson wrote:

>> There's no sense at all in rushing things.
>>> It goes by _quite_ quickly enough as it is.
>>
>> Thus the cause of your lack of time to do it all.
>
> You can never do it all.

Then why the fuck are you wasting any of your time talking to me?
Shouldn't you want to be away from your computer, doing stuff, rather then
talking to some random fat guy on the internet? But hey, if you want to
sit around chewing the cud, no skin off my nose... Just don't complain
about how you ran out of time.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:32:19 +0000, The Master wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Frank Mayhar wrote:
>>> What's the point of having a long life?
>> Says someone who is clearly under 30. And quite possibly under 20.
> LOL! Don't get angry with me, that you kept waiting, kept putting
> things off. Now that you are at the end, there are things you want to
> do, but not enough "time" to do them all...

Oh, right, _I_ get it. You're just an asshole.

One, I'm not "at the end," and, two, I've done most of the things I
wanted to do, with the sole exception of raising a child to adulthood.
Said child is one year old now; if I live to my 80s I might actually see
grandkids. Many people my age already _have_ grandkids. It's certainly
worth sticking around for.

Of course, I'm not spending all my time just being a self-centered
asshole like you seem to be.

>> Son, the point of having a long life is that you'll be at the end of it
>> quickly enough regardless.
> If you do things early, when you have the chance to remember them and
> treasure the experience for many years to come, you don't need a long
> life.

Says the person who doesn't have the first fucking clue what he's talking
about.

>> There's no sense at all in rushing things. It goes by _quite_ quickly
>> enough as it is.
> Thus the cause of your lack of time to do it all.

This is called "projection." Here's a hint, dickhead: I'm not you.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:06:25 +0000, The Master
<tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Gemini Jackson wrote:
>
>>> There's no sense at all in rushing things.
>>>> It goes by _quite_ quickly enough as it is.
>>>
>>> Thus the cause of your lack of time to do it all.
>>
>> You can never do it all.
>
>Then why the fuck are you wasting any of your time talking to me?

I could ask you the same. I have a weakness for wounded animals
maybe?

>Shouldn't you want to be away from your computer, doing stuff, rather then
>talking to some random fat guy on the internet?

Maybe I'm texting this on my blackberry as I prepare to skydive from
this plane.

> But hey, if you want to
>sit around chewing the cud, no skin off my nose... Just don't complain
>about how you ran out of time.

No complaints here. All the drama seems to be coming from ... um,
elsewhere.
~GJ~

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:23:51 +0000, The Master
<tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Mike Painter wrote:
>
>> If you think that happens at 40 or 50 or 60 or 70 or 80 it probably will -
>> to you.
>
>My 70 year old grandmother wants nothing other then to hurry up and die.
>She is fed up with life, and wants to go.

Sounds like a lack of self worth that runs in the family.

~GJ~

On 16 jun, 23:34, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
<lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> In article
> <f12744f0-33b9-46ea-9a42-1f9c01543...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > On 15 jun, 17:08, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <95ee02cf-cfc3-4993-8840-ade3df0d6...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > On 12 jun, 01:02, flower alicia
> > > > <tobloomasarosed...@theflowerofalicia.com> wrote:
> > > > > jenius wrote:
> > > > > > On Jun 7, 3:13 pm, Astaroth <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > > >> "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote in news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-
> > > > > >> 93FC75.14545807062...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com :
>
> > > > > >>> In article
> > > > > >>> <bf446d4f-757c-4a0c-a68a-0e3569b50...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > >>> *Jason Todd <janklowic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> America's Next Top Model Winner Whitney Thompson...
> > > > > >>>>http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/0...el/photo01.htm
> > > > > >>> Conclusion: rubenesque
> > > > > >> Rubens' fatty paintings lend no more dignity to the
> > > > > >> not-quite-morbidly
> > > > > >> porky than the term "BBW" does.
>
> > > > > >> That the armies of the nigh-obese have co-opted the guy's nameand
> > > > > >> career just to make themselves feel better about their flab is
> > > > > >> unforgivable.
>
> > > > > >>> but statuesque.
> > > > > >> Besides insane fetishists, no respectable sculptor would create a
> > > > > >> statue
> > > > > >> with those proportions.
>
> > > > > > this is not statuesque, rubenesque, or plus, this is what a woman
> > > > > > should be, not some stick figure. all this is pure crap. jenius
>
> > > > > YOU!!! are pure crap!!!
>
> > > > > you will find no tribesmen or nomads that look like her. she is abig
> > > > > fat fattypants.
>
> > > > > humans were not meant to look like that. so much fat is ONLY a sign of
> > > > > inaction and gluttony. those gut rolls and lipid-stuffed extremities
> > > > > are
> > > > > like a scarlet letter.
>
> > > > > there is no good reason for anyone to be so fat.
>
> > > > > humans were not meant to be fat, period.
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > the flower of alicia
> > > > > "accept everyone as they are." - guru myanwu- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk
> > > > > bericht niet weergeven -
>
> > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > > > sure humans were not meant to be anything.
>
> > > > (which is the only fact that makes this silly post on topic for
> > > > alt.atheism)
>
> > > * *False. An atheist would not argue against the biological structure on
> > > the human body nor against what has been found optimal weight standards.
>
> > > --
> > > Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet
> > > weergeven -
>
> > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > An atheist would argue against "humans meant to be"
> > At least this atheist would!
>
> * *You would argue that the human body does not have certain
> requirements in which to live healthily? Good luck with that one.
>
No I wouldn't
I only meant to say humans are not "meant to be"

meaning is something that is done BY humans, not TO humans :-)

Peter van Velzen
June 2008
Amstelveen
The netherlands

In article
<44a16f8d-9b30-49c8-b7ba-2749dde54d1f@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote:

> On 16 jun, 23:34, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <f12744f0-33b9-46ea-9a42-1f9c01543...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > On 15 jun, 17:08, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <95ee02cf-cfc3-4993-8840-ade3df0d6...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > On 12 jun, 01:02, flower alicia
> > > > > <tobloomasarosed...@theflowerofalicia.com> wrote:
> > > > > > jenius wrote:
> > > > > > > On Jun 7, 3:13 pm, Astaroth <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > > > >> "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > > >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote in
> > > > > > >> news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-
> > > > > > >> 93FC75.14545807062...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com :
> >
> > > > > > >>> In article
> > > > > > >>> <bf446d4f-757c-4a0c-a68a-0e3569b50...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.c
> > > > > > >>> om>,
> > > > > > >>> *Jason Todd <janklowic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> America's Next Top Model Winner Whitney Thompson...
> > > > > > >>>>http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/0...el/photo01.htm
> > > > > > >>> Conclusion: rubenesque
> > > > > > >> Rubens' fatty paintings lend no more dignity to the
> > > > > > >> not-quite-morbidly
> > > > > > >> porky than the term "BBW" does.
> >
> > > > > > >> That the armies of the nigh-obese have co-opted the guy's name
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >> career just to make themselves feel better about their flab is
> > > > > > >> unforgivable.
> >
> > > > > > >>> but statuesque.
> > > > > > >> Besides insane fetishists, no respectable sculptor would create
> > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > >> statue
> > > > > > >> with those proportions.
> >
> > > > > > > this is not statuesque, rubenesque, or plus, this is what a woman
> > > > > > > should be, not some stick figure. all this is pure crap. jenius
> >
> > > > > > YOU!!! are pure crap!!!
> >
> > > > > > you will find no tribesmen or nomads that look like her. she is a
> > > > > > big
> > > > > > fat fattypants.
> >
> > > > > > humans were not meant to look like that. so much fat is ONLY a sign
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > inaction and gluttony. those gut rolls and lipid-stuffed
> > > > > > extremities
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > like a scarlet letter.
> >
> > > > > > there is no good reason for anyone to be so fat.
> >
> > > > > > humans were not meant to be fat, period.
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > the flower of alicia
> > > > > > "accept everyone as they are." - guru myanwu- Tekst uit
> > > > > > oorspronkelijk
> > > > > > bericht niet weergeven -
> >
> > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
> >
> > > > > sure humans were not meant to be anything.
> >
> > > > > (which is the only fact that makes this silly post on topic for
> > > > > alt.atheism)
> >
> > > > * *False. An atheist would not argue against the biological structure
> > > > on
> > > > the human body nor against what has been found optimal weight
> > > > standards.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet
> > > > weergeven -
> >
> > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
> >
> > > An atheist would argue against "humans meant to be"
> > > At least this atheist would!
> >
> > * *You would argue that the human body does not have certain
> > requirements in which to live healthily? Good luck with that one.
> >
> No I wouldn't
> I only meant to say humans are not "meant to be"
>
> meaning is something that is done BY humans, not TO humans :-)
>

The human body has very specific needs. To argue against that flies
in the face of established science.




--
Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.

On 21 jun, 17:41, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
<lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> In article
> <44a16f8d-9b30-49c8-b7ba-2749dde54...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > On 16 jun, 23:34, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <f12744f0-33b9-46ea-9a42-1f9c01543...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > On 15 jun, 17:08, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <95ee02cf-cfc3-4993-8840-ade3df0d6...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > On 12 jun, 01:02, flower alicia
> > > > > > <tobloomasarosed...@theflowerofalicia.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > jenius wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Jun 7, 3:13 pm, Astaroth <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > > > >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > >> news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-
> > > > > > > >> 93FC75.14545807062...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com :
>
> > > > > > > >>> In article
> > > > > > > >>> <bf446d4f-757c-4a0c-a68a-0e3569b50...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.c
> > > > > > > >>> om>,
> > > > > > > >>> *Jason Todd <janklowic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> America's Next Top Model Winner Whitney Thompson...
> > > > > > > >>>>http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/0...el/photo01.htm
> > > > > > > >>> Conclusion: rubenesque
> > > > > > > >> Rubens' fatty paintings lend no more dignity to the
> > > > > > > >> not-quite-morbidly
> > > > > > > >> porky than the term "BBW" does.
>
> > > > > > > >> That the armies of the nigh-obese have co-opted the guy's name
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >> career just to make themselves feel better about their flab is
> > > > > > > >> unforgivable.
>
> > > > > > > >>> but statuesque.
> > > > > > > >> Besides insane fetishists, no respectable sculptor would create
> > > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > > >> statue
> > > > > > > >> with those proportions.
>
> > > > > > > > this is not statuesque, rubenesque, or plus, this is what awoman
> > > > > > > > should be, not some stick figure. all this is pure crap. jenius
>
> > > > > > > YOU!!! are pure crap!!!
>
> > > > > > > you will find no tribesmen or nomads that look like her. she is a
> > > > > > > big
> > > > > > > fat fattypants.
>
> > > > > > > humans were not meant to look like that. so much fat is ONLY a sign
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > inaction and gluttony. those gut rolls and lipid-stuffed
> > > > > > > extremities
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > like a scarlet letter.
>
> > > > > > > there is no good reason for anyone to be so fat.
>
> > > > > > > humans were not meant to be fat, period.
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > the flower of alicia
> > > > > > > "accept everyone as they are." - guru myanwu- Tekst uit
> > > > > > > oorspronkelijk
> > > > > > > bericht niet weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > > > > > sure humans were not meant to be anything.
>
> > > > > > (which is the only fact that makes this silly post on topic for
> > > > > > alt.atheism)
>
> > > > > * *False. An atheist would not argue against the biological structure
> > > > > on
> > > > > the human body nor against what has been found optimal weight
> > > > > standards.
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk berichtniet
> > > > > weergeven -
>
> > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > > > An atheist would argue against "humans meant to be"
> > > > At least this atheist would!
>
> > > * *You would argue that the human body does not have certain
> > > requirements in which to live healthily? Good luck with that one.
>
> > No I wouldn't
> > I only meant to say humans are not "meant to be"
>
> > meaning is something that is done BY humans, not TO *humans :-)
>
> * *The human body has very specific needs. To argue against that flies
> in the face of established science.
>
Not "listening" are you
I am not arguing the fact that the human body needs certain things
(like oxygen).
I am arguing that it was not "meant" to need those things.

How many times do I have to repeat my statement, before you start
trying to understand it?

Peter van Velzen
June 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands

In article
<ca52de76-b123-4612-b98d-05d32bd97c6b@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote:

> On 21 jun, 17:41, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <44a16f8d-9b30-49c8-b7ba-2749dde54...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > On 16 jun, 23:34, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <f12744f0-33b9-46ea-9a42-1f9c01543...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > On 15 jun, 17:08, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <95ee02cf-cfc3-4993-8840-ade3df0d6...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > > On 12 jun, 01:02, flower alicia
> > > > > > > <tobloomasarosed...@theflowerofalicia.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > jenius wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 7, 3:13 pm, Astaroth <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > > > > >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > >> news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-
> > > > > > > > >> 93FC75.14545807062...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com :
> >
> > > > > > > > >>> In article
> > > > > > > > >>> <bf446d4f-757c-4a0c-a68a-0e3569b50...@m36g2000hse.googlegrou
> > > > > > > > >>> ps.c
> > > > > > > > >>> om>,
> > > > > > > > >>> *Jason Todd <janklowic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> America's Next Top Model Winner Whitney Thompson...
> > > > > > > > >>>>http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/0...pmodel/photo01.
> > > > > > > > >>>>htm
> > > > > > > > >>> Conclusion: rubenesque
> > > > > > > > >> Rubens' fatty paintings lend no more dignity to the
> > > > > > > > >> not-quite-morbidly
> > > > > > > > >> porky than the term "BBW" does.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> That the armies of the nigh-obese have co-opted the guy's
> > > > > > > > >> name
> > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > >> career just to make themselves feel better about their flab
> > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > >> unforgivable.
> >
> > > > > > > > >>> but statuesque.
> > > > > > > > >> Besides insane fetishists, no respectable sculptor would
> > > > > > > > >> create
> > > > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > > > >> statue
> > > > > > > > >> with those proportions.
> >
> > > > > > > > > this is not statuesque, rubenesque, or plus, this is what a
> > > > > > > > > woman
> > > > > > > > > should be, not some stick figure. all this is pure crap.
> > > > > > > > > jenius
> >
> > > > > > > > YOU!!! are pure crap!!!
> >
> > > > > > > > you will find no tribesmen or nomads that look like her. she is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > fat fattypants.
> >
> > > > > > > > humans were not meant to look like that. so much fat is ONLY a
> > > > > > > > sign
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > inaction and gluttony. those gut rolls and lipid-stuffed
> > > > > > > > extremities
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > like a scarlet letter.
> >
> > > > > > > > there is no good reason for anyone to be so fat.
> >
> > > > > > > > humans were not meant to be fat, period.
> >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > the flower of alicia
> > > > > > > > "accept everyone as they are." - guru myanwu- Tekst uit
> > > > > > > > oorspronkelijk
> > > > > > > > bericht niet weergeven -
> >
> > > > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
> >
> > > > > > > sure humans were not meant to be anything.
> >
> > > > > > > (which is the only fact that makes this silly post on topic for
> > > > > > > alt.atheism)
> >
> > > > > > * *False. An atheist would not argue against the biological
> > > > > > structure
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > the human body nor against what has been found optimal weight
> > > > > > standards.
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht
> > > > > > niet
> > > > > > weergeven -
> >
> > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
> >
> > > > > An atheist would argue against "humans meant to be"
> > > > > At least this atheist would!
> >
> > > > * *You would argue that the human body does not have certain
> > > > requirements in which to live healthily? Good luck with that one.
> >
> > > No I wouldn't
> > > I only meant to say humans are not "meant to be"
> >
> > > meaning is something that is done BY humans, not TO *humans :-)
> >
> > * *The human body has very specific needs. To argue against that flies
> > in the face of established science.
> >
> Not "listening" are you
> I am not arguing the fact that the human body needs certain things
> (like oxygen).
> I am arguing that it was not "meant" to need those things.
>
> How many times do I have to repeat my statement, before you start
> trying to understand it?
>


A human body isn't meant to need oxygen? Wow....




--
Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Frank Mayhar wrote:

> Oh, right, _I_ get it. You're just an asshole.

It's about time you figured it out! Geez... Took you long enough.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008, Gemini Jackson wrote:

> Sounds like a lack of self worth that runs in the family.

Because we don't think the way you do? What a total over abundance of
ego.

On 21 jun, 19:26, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
<lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> In article
> <ca52de76-b123-4612-b98d-05d32bd97...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > On 21 jun, 17:41, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <44a16f8d-9b30-49c8-b7ba-2749dde54...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > On 16 jun, 23:34, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <f12744f0-33b9-46ea-9a42-1f9c01543...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > On 15 jun, 17:08, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > <95ee02cf-cfc3-4993-8840-ade3df0d6...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups..com>,
>
> > > > > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 12 jun, 01:02, flower alicia
> > > > > > > > <tobloomasarosed...@theflowerofalicia.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > jenius wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 7, 3:13 pm, Astaroth <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > > > > > >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > >> news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-
> > > > > > > > > >> 93FC75.14545807062...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com :
>
> > > > > > > > > >>> In article
> > > > > > > > > >>> <bf446d4f-757c-4a0c-a68a-0e3569b50...@m36g2000hse.googlegrou
> > > > > > > > > >>> ps.c
> > > > > > > > > >>> om>,
> > > > > > > > > >>> *Jason Todd <janklowic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> America's Next Top Model Winner Whitney Thompson...
> > > > > > > > > >>>>http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/0...pmodel/photo01.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>htm
> > > > > > > > > >>> Conclusion: rubenesque
> > > > > > > > > >> Rubens' fatty paintings lend no more dignity to the
> > > > > > > > > >> not-quite-morbidly
> > > > > > > > > >> porky than the term "BBW" does.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> That the armies of the nigh-obese have co-opted the guy's
> > > > > > > > > >> name
> > > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > > >> career just to make themselves feel better about theirflab
> > > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > > >> unforgivable.
>
> > > > > > > > > >>> but statuesque.
> > > > > > > > > >> Besides insane fetishists, no respectable sculptor would
> > > > > > > > > >> create
> > > > > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > > > > >> statue
> > > > > > > > > >> with those proportions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > this is not statuesque, rubenesque, or plus, this is what a
> > > > > > > > > > woman
> > > > > > > > > > should be, not some stick figure. all this is pure crap..
> > > > > > > > > > jenius
>
> > > > > > > > > YOU!!! are pure crap!!!
>
> > > > > > > > > you will find no tribesmen or nomads that look like her. she is
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > > fat fattypants.
>
> > > > > > > > > humans were not meant to look like that. so much fat is ONLY a
> > > > > > > > > sign
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > inaction and gluttony. those gut rolls and lipid-stuffed
> > > > > > > > > extremities
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > like a scarlet letter.
>
> > > > > > > > > there is no good reason for anyone to be so fat.
>
> > > > > > > > > humans were not meant to be fat, period.
>
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > the flower of alicia
> > > > > > > > > "accept everyone as they are." - guru myanwu- Tekst uit
> > > > > > > > > oorspronkelijk
> > > > > > > > > bericht niet weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > > sure humans were not meant to be anything.
>
> > > > > > > > (which is the only fact that makes this silly post on topicfor
> > > > > > > > alt.atheism)
>
> > > > > > > * *False. An atheist would not argue against the biological
> > > > > > > structure
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the human body nor against what has been found optimal weight
> > > > > > > standards.
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht
> > > > > > > niet
> > > > > > > weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > > > > > An atheist would argue against "humans meant to be"
> > > > > > At least this atheist would!
>
> > > > > * *You would argue that the human body does not have certain
> > > > > requirements in which to live healthily? Good luck with that one.
>
> > > > No I wouldn't
> > > > I only meant to say humans are not "meant to be"
>
> > > > meaning is something that is done BY humans, not TO *humans :-)
>
> > > * *The human body has very specific needs. To argue against that flies
> > > in the face of established science.
>
> > Not "listening" are you
> > I am not arguing the fact that the human body needs certain things
> > (like oxygen).
> > I am arguing that it was not "meant" to need those things.
>
> > How many times do I have to repeat my statement, before you start
> > trying to understand it?
>
> * *A human body isn't meant to need oxygen? Wow....

That is a very good example.
When life started out, there was no oxygen,
hence the first lifeforms were not using it, indeed it would have been
harmfull to them. Alas lifeforms developped that were able to gain
more carbon by reducing the all abundant carbon-oxyde to carbon and
oxygen.
Thus oxygen rich environments came to be. And consequently lifeforms
developped that were up to those circumstances, and - of course -
lifeforms developped that were actually using the oxygen.
But nobody ever meant that to happen.
It just did.

Remember you are crossposting to alt.atheism . . . . .

Peter van Velzen
June 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands

On Jun 23, 4:27*pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
> On 21 jun, 19:26, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
>
>
>
>
>
> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <ca52de76-b123-4612-b98d-05d32bd97...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > On 21 jun, 17:41, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <44a16f8d-9b30-49c8-b7ba-2749dde54...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > On 16 jun, 23:34, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <f12744f0-33b9-46ea-9a42-1f9c01543...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > > On 15 jun, 17:08, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > <95ee02cf-cfc3-4993-8840-ade3df0d6...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > > > > *"pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 12 jun, 01:02, flower alicia
> > > > > > > > > <tobloomasarosed...@theflowerofalicia.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > jenius wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 7, 3:13 pm, Astaroth <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> > > > > > > > > > >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > > >> news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-
> > > > > > > > > > >> 93FC75.14545807062...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com :
>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> In article
> > > > > > > > > > >>> <bf446d4f-757c-4a0c-a68a-0e3569b50...@m36g2000hse.googlegrou
> > > > > > > > > > >>> ps.c
> > > > > > > > > > >>> om>,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> *Jason Todd <janklowic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> America's Next Top Model Winner Whitney Thompson....
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/0...pmodel/photo01.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>htm
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Conclusion: rubenesque
> > > > > > > > > > >> Rubens' fatty paintings lend no more dignity to the
> > > > > > > > > > >> not-quite-morbidly
> > > > > > > > > > >> porky than the term "BBW" does.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> That the armies of the nigh-obese have co-opted the guy's
> > > > > > > > > > >> name
> > > > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > > > >> career just to make themselves feel better about their flab
> > > > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > > > >> unforgivable.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> but statuesque.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Besides insane fetishists, no respectable sculptor would
> > > > > > > > > > >> create
> > > > > > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > > > > > >> statue
> > > > > > > > > > >> with those proportions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > this is not statuesque, rubenesque, or plus, this is what a
> > > > > > > > > > > woman
> > > > > > > > > > > should be, not some stick figure. all this is pure crap.
> > > > > > > > > > > jenius
>
> > > > > > > > > > YOU!!! are pure crap!!!
>
> > > > > > > > > > you will find no tribesmen or nomads that look like her.. she is
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > > > fat fattypants.
>
> > > > > > > > > > humans were not meant to look like that. so much fat isONLY a
> > > > > > > > > > sign
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > inaction and gluttony. those gut rolls and lipid-stuffed
> > > > > > > > > > extremities
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > like a scarlet letter.
>
> > > > > > > > > > there is no good reason for anyone to be so fat.
>
> > > > > > > > > > humans were not meant to be fat, period.
>
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > the flower of alicia
> > > > > > > > > > "accept everyone as they are." - guru myanwu- Tekst uit
> > > > > > > > > > oorspronkelijk
> > > > > > > > > > bericht niet weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > > > sure humans were not meant to be anything.
>
> > > > > > > > > (which is the only fact that makes this silly post on topic for
> > > > > > > > > alt.atheism)
>
> > > > > > > > * *False. An atheist would not argue against the biological
> > > > > > > > structure
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the human body nor against what has been found optimal weight
> > > > > > > > standards.
>
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht
> > > > > > > > niet
> > > > > > > > weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > > > > > > An atheist would argue against "humans meant to be"
> > > > > > > At least this atheist would!
>
> > > > > > * *You would argue that the human body does not have certain
> > > > > > requirements in which to live healthily? Good luck with that one.
>
> > > > > No I wouldn't
> > > > > I only meant to say humans are not "meant to be"
>
> > > > > meaning is something that is done BY humans, not TO *humans :-)
>
> > > > * *The human body has very specific needs. To argue against that flies
> > > > in the face of established science.
>
> > > Not "listening" are you
> > > I am not arguing the fact that the human body needs certain things
> > > (like oxygen).
> > > I am arguing that it was not "meant" to need those things.
>
> > > How many times do I have to repeat my statement, before you start
> > > trying to understand it?
>
> > * *A human body isn't meant to need oxygen? Wow....
>
> That is a very good example.
> When life started out, there was no oxygen,
> hence the first lifeforms were not using it, indeed it would have been
> harmfull to them. Alas lifeforms developped that were able to gain
> more carbon by reducing the all abundant carbon-oxyde to carbon and
> oxygen.
> Thus oxygen rich environments came to be. And consequently lifeforms
> developped that were up to those circumstances, and - of course -
> lifeforms developped that were actually using the oxygen.
> But nobody ever meant that to happen.
> It just did.
>
> Remember you are crossposting to alt.atheism . . . . .
>
> Peter van Velzen
> June 2008
> Amstelveen
> The Netherlands- Hide quoted text -

Hey, Peter, you can't win this argument. God is like the Jack. It's
the card that can be any card.

You or anyone can have the most intelligent argument with scientific
support, physical evidence, and obvious common sense appeal, however
all it takes to stomp the snot out of your point of view is, "God made
it so."

Kinda the equivalent of "Because." There's no "Because why?" It's
"Because God said so. It's magic."

Rather aggravating, isn't it?

You can say, "Thus oxygen rich environments came to be. And
consequently lifeforms developped that were up to those circumstances,
and - of course - lifeforms developped that were actually using the
oxygen. But nobody ever meant that to happen. It just did" until
you're blue in the face and it won't matter.

Will not matter!

Why? Because God said so.

Because God *wanted* lifeforms to develop that way. Or, hey, if you
really want to get clever, there's Plan B. Or Plan S (for Satan!).

Lucifer is the king of lies, right? So, naturally, he prepared all
these clearly "true" bits of evidence simply to make people stray from
the straight and narrow. Beelzebub wants you to go to hell and so
he'll sprinkle your path with just the right amount of "oxygen rich
environments" yadayadas to throw you off.

See you in hell.

And remember, kids, hell is for cross-posters!

What? Oh, dang. My bad.

--

Curt wrote:
> On Jun 23, 4:27 pm, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
> wrote:
>> On 21 jun, 19:26, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <ca52de76-b123-4612-b98d-05d32bd97...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>> "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
>>>> On 21 jun, 17:41, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
>>>> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <44a16f8d-9b30-49c8-b7ba-2749dde54...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
>>>>>> On 16 jun, 23:34, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
>>>>>> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <f12744f0-33b9-46ea-9a42-1f9c01543...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15 jun, 17:08, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
>>>>>>>> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>> <95ee02cf-cfc3-4993-8840-ade3df0d6...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>> "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12 jun, 01:02, flower alicia
>>>>>>>>>> <tobloomasarosed...@theflowerofalicia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jenius wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 7, 3:13 pm, Astaroth <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 93FC75.14545807062...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bf446d4f-757c-4a0c-a68a-0e3569b50...@m36g2000hse.googlegrou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ps.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> om>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Todd <janklowic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> America's Next Top Model Winner Whitney Thompson...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/0...pmodel/photo01.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion: rubenesque
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rubens' fatty paintings lend no more dignity to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not-quite-morbidly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> porky than the term "BBW" does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That the armies of the nigh-obese have co-opted the guy's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> career just to make themselves feel better about their flab
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unforgivable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but statuesque.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides insane fetishists, no respectable sculptor would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> statue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with t