Creatine everyday or no?

I lift weights 2 to 3 times a week and used to take creatine everyday as
recommended. (even when not working out)

But I find I get anger/rage type mood swings if I take it like that.

Is it almost as nutritional just taking creatine before and during a
workout? Because i'd rather just do it that way. Anger/rage boosts my
performance anyway.

And no, im not crazy...There are plenty of published reports between the
creatine / mood swings episodes. Here is one -

http://www.creatinemonohydrate.net/c...ggression.html

any info would be great.

"john" <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> writes:

> I lift weights 2 to 3 times a week and used to take creatine
> everyday as recommended. (even when not working out)

Ok, that sounds good.

> But I find I get anger/rage type mood swings if I take it like that.

That sounds bad.

> Is it almost as nutritional just taking creatine before and during a
> workout? Because i'd rather just do it that way. Anger/rage boosts
> my performance anyway.

I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I believe
are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't mean that I
believe that creatine is mood altering btw.

> And no, im not crazy...There are plenty of published reports between
> the creatine / mood swings episodes. Here is one -
>
> http://www.creatinemonohydrate.net/c...ggression.html

Actually what that report says is this.

Anecdotal reports of increases episodes of aggression coinciding
with the use of creatine supplements have recently emerged in the
popular media. Whether these cases of seemingly spontaneous
aggression are truly linked to the consumption of creatine, or
merely coincidental with another change in life factor remains to
be clearly answered. Unfortunately, to my knowledge no scientific
study has specifically looked at the effect of creatine
supplementation on levels of aggression.

Two recent studies, however, did find that creatine
supplementation enhances cognitive performance and possibly mood
during forced sleep deprivation, which is seemingly at odds with
the notion that creatine produces aggressive behavior.

> any info would be great.

I would suggest that you try it the way you like to take it and see if
it effects your performance. If you can't measure the difference that
creatine makes in your workout then why take it.

Jason

You are a stone cold moron.

--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/


"john" <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ZJmdnYj3StdfpfrbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@ptd.net...
>I lift weights 2 to 3 times a week and used to take creatine everyday as
>recommended. (even when not working out)
>
> But I find I get anger/rage type mood swings if I take it like that.
>
> Is it almost as nutritional just taking creatine before and during a
> workout? Because i'd rather just do it that way. Anger/rage boosts my
> performance anyway.
>
> And no, im not crazy...There are plenty of published reports between the
> creatine / mood swings episodes. Here is one -
>
> http://www.creatinemonohydrate.net/c...ggression.html
>
> any info would be great.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
wrote:

>I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I believe
>are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't mean that I
>believe that creatine is mood altering btw.

I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't find
anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the undigested
portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues to suck in
water which can cause problems in the digested system which also need
water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle which requires more
water as well. Most people don't drink enough water as it is and
taking creatine requires much more. Combine all this with
manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as the body can
absorb and you can have problems.

When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most people
don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to improve the
absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere that finer powder
was better but never looked into that.

"Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I believe
>>are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't mean that I
>>believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>
> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't find
> anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the undigested
> portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues to suck in
> water which can cause problems in the digested system which also need
> water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle which requires more
> water as well. Most people don't drink enough water as it is and
> taking creatine requires much more. Combine all this with
> manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as the body can
> absorb and you can have problems.
>
> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
> stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most people
> don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to improve the
> absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere that finer powder
> was better but never looked into that.
>

Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.

In news:KP2dnSZlFdBcvvHbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@ptd.net,
john <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> typed:
> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I
>>> believe are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't mean
>>> that I believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>
>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't find
>> anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the undigested
>> portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues to suck in
>> water which can cause problems in the digested system which also need
>> water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle which requires more
>> water as well. Most people don't drink enough water as it is and
>> taking creatine requires much more. Combine all this with
>> manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as the body can
>> absorb and you can have problems.
>>
>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
>> stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most people
>> don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to improve the
>> absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere that finer
>> powder was better but never looked into that.
>>
>
> Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.

Worthless, but detailed nonetheless!

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:48:37 +0100, "Bully"
<bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

>In news:KP2dnSZlFdBcvvHbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@ptd.net,
>john <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> typed:
>> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I
>>>> believe are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't mean
>>>> that I believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>>
>>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't find
>>> anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the undigested
>>> portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues to suck in
>>> water which can cause problems in the digested system which also need
>>> water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle which requires more
>>> water as well. Most people don't drink enough water as it is and
>>> taking creatine requires much more. Combine all this with
>>> manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as the body can
>>> absorb and you can have problems.
>>>
>>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
>>> stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most people
>>> don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to improve the
>>> absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere that finer
>>> powder was better but never looked into that.
>>>
>>
>> Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.
>
>Worthless, but detailed nonetheless!

Bully would drink battery acid if he thought it would give him big
guns. Right now he is on the High Sperm Diet. The occasional sperm
burp makes him a little nauseous.

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:16:01 -0400, "john"
<john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I believe
>>>are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't mean that I
>>>believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>
>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't find
>> anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the undigested
>> portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues to suck in
>> water which can cause problems in the digested system which also need
>> water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle which requires more
>> water as well. Most people don't drink enough water as it is and
>> taking creatine requires much more. Combine all this with
>> manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as the body can
>> absorb and you can have problems.
>>
>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
>> stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most people
>> don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to improve the
>> absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere that finer powder
>> was better but never looked into that.
>>
>
>Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.

One thing I haven't tried is to heat the water first. In theory this
helps it dissolve and therefore digest better. I haven't tried it
yet.

I also forgot mention using some kind of sugar for better absorption.

In news:8rgo631ja3fn7iikdpjka6egtq9701h1kl@4ax.com,
Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> typed:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:16:01 -0400, "john"
> <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I
>>>> believe are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't
>>>> mean that I believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>>
>>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't
>>> find anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the
>>> undigested portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues
>>> to suck in water which can cause problems in the digested system
>>> which also need water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle
>>> which requires more water as well. Most people don't drink enough
>>> water as it is and taking creatine requires much more. Combine all
>>> this with manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as
>>> the body can absorb and you can have problems.
>>>
>>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
>>> stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most
>>> people don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to
>>> improve the absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere
>>> that finer powder was better but never looked into that.
>>>
>>
>> Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.
>
> One thing I haven't tried is to heat the water first. In theory this
> helps it dissolve and therefore digest better. I haven't tried it
> yet.

If someone could post instructions for Shute on how to heat water, I'm sure
he would be extremely grateful!!!

>
> I also forgot mention using some kind of sugar for better absorption.

The door's wide open here Shute; what do you do with the sugar exactly?

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

In news:jkgo63t66nabnk01tvbnsvesddau4qepqh@4ax.com,
Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> typed:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:48:37 +0100, "Bully"
> <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>
>> In news:KP2dnSZlFdBcvvHbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@ptd.net,
>> john <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> typed:
>>> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I
>>>>> believe are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't
>>>>> mean that I believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't
>>>> find anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the
>>>> undigested portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues
>>>> to suck in water which can cause problems in the digested system
>>>> which also need water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle
>>>> which requires more water as well. Most people don't drink enough
>>>> water as it is and taking creatine requires much more. Combine
>>>> all this with manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as
>>>> much as the body can absorb and you can have problems.
>>>>
>>>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>>>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger.
>>>> I stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most
>>>> people don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to
>>>> improve the absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere
>>>> that finer powder was better but never looked into that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.
>>
>> Worthless, but detailed nonetheless!
>
> Bully would drink battery acid if he thought it would give him big
> guns.

Now to be fair, I'm not that bothered about the size of my guns. Hence the
reason I almost never train arms [as if it would make much difference].

> Right now he is on the High Sperm Diet. The occasional sperm
> burp makes him a little nauseous.

Shute -- you're so sharp I'm surprised you don't cut yourself !


--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

"Bully" <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:5d2rrgF32j153U1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:KP2dnSZlFdBcvvHbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@ptd.net,
> john <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> typed:
>> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I
>>>> believe are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't mean
>>>> that I believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>>
>>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't find
>>> anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the undigested
>>> portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues to suck in
>>> water which can cause problems in the digested system which also need
>>> water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle which requires more
>>> water as well. Most people don't drink enough water as it is and
>>> taking creatine requires much more. Combine all this with
>>> manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as the body can
>>> absorb and you can have problems.
>>>
>>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
>>> stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most people
>>> don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to improve the
>>> absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere that finer
>>> powder was better but never looked into that.
>>>
>>
>> Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.
>
> Worthless, but detailed nonetheless!
>

I agree. This Shute troll, pussy, twat etc., has never been in shape, does
not work out and basically just talks shit on the computer. Getting training
advice from him would be like getting tolerance training from Al Sharpton.
;-)


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Bully" <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:5d373hF333943U1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:jkgo63t66nabnk01tvbnsvesddau4qepqh@4ax.com,
> Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> typed:
>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:48:37 +0100, "Bully"
>> <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:KP2dnSZlFdBcvvHbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@ptd.net,
>>> john <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> typed:
>>>> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I
>>>>>> believe are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't
>>>>>> mean that I believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't
>>>>> find anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the
>>>>> undigested portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues
>>>>> to suck in water which can cause problems in the digested system
>>>>> which also need water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle
>>>>> which requires more water as well. Most people don't drink enough
>>>>> water as it is and taking creatine requires much more. Combine
>>>>> all this with manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as
>>>>> much as the body can absorb and you can have problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>>>>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger.
>>>>> I stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most
>>>>> people don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to
>>>>> improve the absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere
>>>>> that finer powder was better but never looked into that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Worthless, but detailed nonetheless!
>>
>> Bully would drink battery acid if he thought it would give him big
>> guns.
>
> Now to be fair, I'm not that bothered about the size of my guns. Hence the
> reason I almost never train arms [as if it would make much difference].
>
>> Right now he is on the High Sperm Diet. The occasional sperm
>> burp makes him a little nauseous.
>
> Shute -- you're so sharp I'm surprised you don't cut yourself !
>
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
>


I see you now have poor little Shute resorting back to his 3rd grade gay
comments. What a pathetic piece of shit human being. I would bet the farm
this fuck has not been laid in years.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Bully" <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:5d33rjF32pcg5U1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:8rgo631ja3fn7iikdpjka6egtq9701h1kl@4ax.com,
> Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> typed:
>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:16:01 -0400, "john"
>> <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:75vn635kvhdan23n908n2ugmn6uqo6s6bg@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:13:11 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am personally a bit squeamish about taking substances that I
>>>>> believe are mood altering, even if they do help. This doesn't
>>>>> mean that I believe that creatine is mood altering btw.
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe it is mood altering so any studies to that won't
>>>> find anything. The research I did mentioned problems with the
>>>> undigested portion of creatine. This undigested portion continues
>>>> to suck in water which can cause problems in the digested system
>>>> which also need water. There is a bloating effect to the muscle
>>>> which requires more water as well. Most people don't drink enough
>>>> water as it is and taking creatine requires much more. Combine all
>>>> this with manufactures telling people to take 2-5 times as much as
>>>> the body can absorb and you can have problems.
>>>>
>>>> When I took it I suffered irritability and muscle bloating. In
>>>> people with less control this could lead to aggression and anger. I
>>>> stopped taking it once I realized this. I have a feeling most
>>>> people don't know the difference. Newer types are supposed to
>>>> improve the absorption during digestion. I also read somewhere
>>>> that finer powder was better but never looked into that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.
>>
>> One thing I haven't tried is to heat the water first. In theory this
>> helps it dissolve and therefore digest better. I haven't tried it
>> yet.
>
> If someone could post instructions for Shute on how to heat water, I'm
> sure he would be extremely grateful!!!
>
>>
>> I also forgot mention using some kind of sugar for better absorption.
>
> The door's wide open here Shute; what do you do with the sugar exactly?
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
>

Shute just adds sugar to everything he shoves down his fat little pie hole.
How else does one keep up a 40" waist? ;-)


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Hard Bop Drums" <> I see you now have poor little Shute resorting back to
his 3rd grade gay comments. What a pathetic piece of shit human being. I
would bet the farm
> this fuck has not been laid in years.>>

And I am willing to bet that you would be more than happy to volunteer your
anus for a good cause. this is not a gay link: http://tinyurl.com/4qo5f

I just hope your butt isn't anything like this one:
http://www.emedicine.com/med/images/..._condyloma.jpg

"Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> schreef:

> One thing I haven't tried is to heat the water first. In theory this
> helps it dissolve and therefore digest better.

I believe heating it will result in a higher concentration, since you can
dissolve more creatine in heated water.

Just like salt.

But i doubt if that results in easier digestion.

--
Pete

In article <KP2dnSZlFdBcvvHbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@ptd.net>, "john"
<john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> Nice detailed response, Shute.

All you need to know about creatine: www.creatine-report.com

The page you linked to is worthless BTW.

--
Will @ www.BrinkZone.com

"It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

In article <5d2rrgF32j153U1@mid.individual.net>, "Bully"
<bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:


> >
> > Nice detailed response, Shute. I appreciate it.
>
> Worthless, but detailed nonetheless!

Bingo. You beat me to it.

--
Will @ www.BrinkZone.com

"It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:50:40 -0700, "Hard Bop Drums"
<nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:

>I agree. This Shute troll, pussy, twat etc., has never been in shape, does
>not work out and basically just talks shit on the computer. Getting training
>advice from him would be like getting tolerance training from Al Sharpton.
>;-)

Is that a racist remark their skippy?

You have reached the news posting of <Robert Schuh>. Please select
my response from the following menu items:

1) You are fat and overweight and never worked out a day in your life.

2) You fucking anonymous pussy.

3) You fucking anonymous troll.

5) You fucking moron.

6) Fuck off Spammer.

7) What a cunt.

8) What a moron.

9) I competed in the MS Phoenix contest 35 years ago.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:22:56 -0400, Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:50:40 -0700, "Hard Bop Drums"
><nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>
>>I agree. This Shute troll, pussy, twat etc., has never been in shape, does
>>not work out and basically just talks shit on the computer. Getting training
>>advice from him would be like getting tolerance training from Al Sharpton.
>>;-)
>
>Is that a racist remark their skippy?
>
>You have reached the news posting of <Robert Schuh>. Please select
>my response from the following menu items:
>
>1) You are fat and overweight and never worked out a day in your life.
>
>2) You fucking anonymous pussy.
>
>3) You fucking anonymous troll.
>
>5) You fucking moron.
>
>6) Fuck off Spammer.
>
>7) What a cunt.
>
>8) What a moron.
>
>9) I competed in the MS Phoenix contest 35 years ago.
>

HEH!

Nominated for June Humour Award!

Nice one! ;o)

"Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> schreef:

> 1) You are fat and overweight and never worked out a day in your life.

Yeah, i like that one!

> 9) I competed in the MS Phoenix contest 35 years ago.

Miss Phoenix ?!?!?!

Took the wrong hormones, Robert?

--
Pete

In news:466e67db$0$15325$dbd4b001@news.wanadoo.nl,
Pete <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> typed:
> "Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> schreef:
>
>> 1) You are fat and overweight and never worked out a day in your
>> life.
>
> Yeah, i like that one!
>
>> 9) I competed in the MS Phoenix contest 35 years ago.
>
> Miss Phoenix ?!?!?!
>
> Took the wrong hormones, Robert?

In my world, MS is an abbrev. for Microsoft...

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

Bully <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
> In my world, MS is an abbrev. for Microsoft...
....
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

Do you use SAS v.9 to keep track of those proteinbars? ;-)

Don't get me wrong, as an immigrant, I sell oranges by the freeway,
when I'm not too busy with genetics.

"DZ" <26724@2757825256.140727155.13862.22833.2535> wrote in message
news:1224@560427268.598422024.29675.3206.1989...
> Bully <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>> In my world, MS is an abbrev. for Microsoft...
> ...
>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> Do you use SAS v.9 to keep track of those proteinbars? ;-)
>
> Don't get me wrong, as an immigrant, I sell oranges by the freeway,
> when I'm not too busy with genetics.

DZ, I worry about you fellas who mess with genetics and sell oranges on the
side. Now it all is starting to make sense - oranges just don't have the
flavour like in the old days - can't you stick to tomatoes?

In news:1224@560427268.598422024.29675.3206.1989,
DZ <26724@2757825256.140727155.13862.22833.2535> typed:
> Bully <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>> In my world, MS is an abbrev. for Microsoft...
> ...
>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> Do you use SAS v.9 to keep track of those proteinbars? ;-)
>
> Don't get me wrong, as an immigrant, I sell oranges by the freeway,
> when I'm not too busy with genetics.

Enterprise Guide 4.1 !

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "DZ" wrote:
>> Bully <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>> In my world, MS is an abbrev. for Microsoft...
>> ...
>>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>>
>> Do you use SAS v.9 to keep track of those proteinbars? ;-)
>>
>> Don't get me wrong, as an immigrant, I sell oranges by the freeway,
>> when I'm not too busy with genetics.
>
> DZ, I worry about you fellas who mess with genetics and sell oranges
> on the side. Now it all is starting to make sense - oranges just
> don't have the flavour like in the old days - can't you stick to
> tomatoes?

We strive to promise more flavour, not less.
That, and the omega-3 pigs
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0327084435.htm
(soon to come to organic food stores).

DZ <19805@134131959.9632879.29793.2049.25009> wrote:

>David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> "DZ" wrote:
>>> Bully <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>>> In my world, MS is an abbrev. for Microsoft...
>>> ...
>>>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>>>
>>> Do you use SAS v.9 to keep track of those proteinbars? ;-)
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, as an immigrant, I sell oranges by the freeway,
>>> when I'm not too busy with genetics.
>>
>> DZ, I worry about you fellas who mess with genetics and sell oranges
>> on the side. Now it all is starting to make sense - oranges just
>> don't have the flavour like in the old days - can't you stick to
>> tomatoes?
>
>We strive to promise more flavour, not less.
>That, and the omega-3 pigs
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0327084435.htm
>(soon to come to organic food stores).

DZ also has a basement lab where he's trying to clone skinny blondes.

"JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
news:qjlt63l8mrqcvhhfvmaueo7qfv674vr98d@4ax.com...
> DZ <19805@134131959.9632879.29793.2049.25009> wrote:
>
>>David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>> "DZ" wrote:
>>>> Bully <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>>>> In my world, MS is an abbrev. for Microsoft...
>>>> ...
>>>>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> Do you use SAS v.9 to keep track of those proteinbars? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong, as an immigrant, I sell oranges by the freeway,
>>>> when I'm not too busy with genetics.
>>>
>>> DZ, I worry about you fellas who mess with genetics and sell oranges
>>> on the side. Now it all is starting to make sense - oranges just
>>> don't have the flavour like in the old days - can't you stick to
>>> tomatoes?
>>
>>We strive to promise more flavour, not less.
>>That, and the omega-3 pigs
>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0327084435.htm
>>(soon to come to organic food stores).
>
> DZ also has a basement lab where he's trying to clone skinny blondes.

Does the fact that he fantasizes about Paris Hilton have anything to do with
it?

as much as you guys insist on turning this thread into a joke.. I still
stand by my claims.

take one or 2 servings or creatine for 7 days. (with or without working
out)

and then dont take any for 7 days.

there are definate mood swings / anger / rage when taking it.....compared to
when not taking it.

It does help with the workout though as it fires you up more.

john wrote:
> as much as you guys insist on turning this thread into a joke.. I
> still stand by my claims. take one or 2 servings or creatine for 7
> days. (with or without working out) and then dont take any for 7
> days. there are definate mood swings / anger / rage when taking
> it.....compared to when not taking it. It does help with the
> workout though as it fires you up more.

At least in some people, the effect is expected to be the opposite -

preface:
http://pmid.us/11133246

the point:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0501081252.htm
http://pmid.us/16325154

It kinda looks that from the lowering of homocysteine point of view,
it might be preferable that creatine is supplemented in the amount at
least sufficient for the synthesis by the body to shut down (~2 g a
day?).

"john" <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> writes:

> as much as you guys insist on turning this thread into a joke.. I
> still stand by my claims.
>
> take one or 2 servings or creatine for 7 days. (with or without
> working out)
>
> and then dont take any for 7 days.
>
> there are definate mood swings / anger / rage when taking
> it.....compared to when not taking it.

I am sure that you are serious, but all of us have been off creatine
before, and none of the rest of us have had a similar reaction. Quite
frankly, I personally have a hard time believing that creatine does
anything for me at all. I certainly don't notice mood swings.

> It does help with the workout though as it fires you up more.

Whatever floats your boat. I personally am not interested in mood
altering substances more powerful than chocolate, but I'm conservative
that way.

Jason

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:05:01 -0400, "john"
<john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> wrote:

>as much as you guys insist on turning this thread into a joke.. I still
>stand by my claims.
>
>take one or 2 servings or creatine for 7 days. (with or without working
>out)
>
>and then dont take any for 7 days.
>
>there are definate mood swings / anger / rage when taking it.....compared to
>when not taking it.
>
>It does help with the workout though as it fires you up more.

Most people on here are pretty messed up anyway. I doubt they would
notice a few more mood swiings.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:37:52 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
wrote:

>"john" <john111111_2654spammenott@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> as much as you guys insist on turning this thread into a joke.. I
>> still stand by my claims.
>>
>> take one or 2 servings or creatine for 7 days. (with or without
>> working out)
>>
>> and then dont take any for 7 days.
>>
>> there are definate mood swings / anger / rage when taking
>> it.....compared to when not taking it.
>
>I am sure that you are serious, but all of us have been off creatine
>before, and none of the rest of us have had a similar reaction. Quite
>frankly, I personally have a hard time believing that creatine does
>anything for me at all. I certainly don't notice mood swings.

It bloated up my muscles from 1/2 to 1 inch more. That is a
measurable difference. This went away once I stopped taking it. I
also so an increase in aggression and intensity and I only took small
doses of it. It took about three weeks for it to really get into my
system. My body is more sensitive to such things and I have some
buried aggression which most people don't have. I doubt these effects
happen to everyone.

>> It does help with the workout though as it fires you up more.
>
>Whatever floats your boat. I personally am not interested in mood
>altering substances more powerful than chocolate, but I'm conservative
>that way.

I don't think it is any kind of chemical reaction. I think it changes
things in the body which then effect ones mood. I have seen alcohol
have varying effects on different people. Even different types of
alcohol. Some people get violent and others get layed back.

In news:28t373dk8adi9gtagmhdprvrdrf3b93kft@4ax.com,
Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> typed:


[...usual Shute lunacy...]

>
> I don't think it is any kind of chemical reaction. I think it changes
> things in the body which then effect ones mood. I have seen alcohol
> have varying effects on different people. Even different types of
> alcohol. Some people get violent and others get layed back.

....and some of us just get laid !

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill