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Old 08-17-2007, 12:32 PM
Henry
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Default ~ Demolition "squibs" observed far below "collapse" zone in Twin Towers~


One of many indications of controlled demolition in the towers
was the presence of multiple forceful explosions ejecting out the
sides of the towers some 200 feet below the "collapse" zone. A
detailed analysis proves that the =only= possible explanation for
these forceful explosion is controlled demolition.
The Bush regime's "explanation" for these forceful explosions,
like much of it's 9-11 conspiracy theory, is comical as well as
physically impossible.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf

High Velocity Bursts of Debris From Point-Like Sources in the
WTC Towers
Kevin Ryan, 6/13/2007
Since September 11th, 2001, there have been two competing hypotheses
to explain the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings. The
first hypothesis, a fire-induced collapse of all three buildings, has
undergone numerous variations over the years, as government scientists
have worked to keep it alive while ignoring the second hypothesis.[1]
That second hypothesis is the controlled demolition of all three
buildings. There is a great deal of compelling evidence for the
demolition hypothesis, including the following physical facts about the
destruction of each building.

• Sudden onset of failure
• Near free-fall speed of “collapse”
• Symmetrical “collapse”
• Many eyewitness testimonies to explosions and flashes of light
• Small rubble piles (WTC 7 fell into its own footprint)
• Molten metal in the rubble piles and pouring from WTC 2
• Dust clouds resembling pyroclastic flows from volcanoes
• Sulfidation and intergranular melting of the steel

Currently, the only official explanation given for these devastating
events is a provably false “collapse initiation sequence” for two of
the three buildings, provided by the National Institute of Standards
and Technology (NIST).[2] By failing to explain the actual collapse
dynamics, NIST was able to avoid all of the evidence cited above.
Additionally, they were able to avoid considerable circumstantial
evidence in favor of the demolition hypothesis (e.g. evidence destroyed
or withheld, extensive foreknowledge).
This paper aims to bring to light just one specific aspect of the
physical evidence, namely, the phenomena known as “demolition squibs”.
In actuality, this evidence is better described as high velocity bursts
of debris ejected from point-like sources near the exterior facade as
each building disintegrated. The demolition hypothesis suggests that
these bursts of debris are the result of the detonation of explosive
charges (squibs), placed at key points in the structure to facilitate
the removal of resistance. But it’s important to note that it is the
bursts of debris themselves that are the actual evidence, not the
presumed cause of those bursts.
There are many photographs in the public domain showing these bursts
of debris, and all parties agree to the existence of this evidence.
Unfortunately, NIST will not release the thousands of pieces of
photographic and video evidence they have collected at taxpayer
expense that might help us to better understand what happened. But in
the example at the link below we can see two such bursts being ejected
simultaneously from different faces of the building, and apparently at
different levels, some ten to twenty floors below the “collapse” front.
2 Figure 1 – Bursts of debris emanating from the sides of a WTC tower
In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts
continue throughout the duration of each tower’s destruction, and all of
them are similar in shape and velocity. Each of these was a sharp
emission that appeared to come from a point-like source, ejecting
approximately 50 to 100 feet from the side of the building in a fraction
of a second. From the extracted frames of the KTLA video (ref. 2), we
can estimate that one of the first bursts was fully ejected in
approximately 0.45 seconds. This gives an average burst velocity of
approximately 170 feet per second (fps). Others have estimated the
velocity of these ejections at over 1100 fps.[4]
These bursts were ignored by government investigators for a period of
several years, as was all other evidence for the demolition hypothesis.
But after being forced to field many “frequently asked questions”,
NIST’s Shyam Sunder finally provided a semiofficial explanation. In a
March 2005 article by Popular Mechanics, Sunder called these bursts
“puffs of dust”, and explained "When you have a significant portion of
a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the
window. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled
demolition, but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that
perception."[5]
Unfortunately for Sunder, NIST was forced to abandon that answer, in the
summer of 2006, saying “NIST’s findings do not support the ‘pancake
theory’ of collapse.” In an attempt to maintain their faltering
fire-induced collapse hypothesis, NIST tried to retain the essence of
the explanation, despite having forsaken pancaking floors. They did so
by saying “the falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of
it—much like the action of a piston—forcing smoke and debris out the
windows as the stories below failed sequentially.”[6] 3
Although the piston analogy might have made some minimal sense for the
discarded pancake theory, it does not work at all for NIST’s current
pile-driver theory. A piston is a sliding shaft that fits within an
enclosed cylinder, whose action within the cylinder causes the volume
and pressure to change. But the WTC buildings did not have sections
acting like pistons at any time before, or during, their disintegration.
Without pancaking floors, there is no internal shaft to slide down
within the “enclosed cylinder” of these tall buildings.
Because the government scientists never did any physical testing to
support this latest compression argument, we must try to imagine for
ourselves how the disintegrating building could have created the
ejections of debris. To be the result of overpressures created from the
falling mass, these bursts had to emanate from highly pressurized
containers that were tightly sealed on all sides except the point of
ejection. With his 2005 pancaking floors hypothesis, NIST’s Shyam Sunder
suggested that these pressurized containers were entire floor areas,
compressed by the falling mass. The reason these containers cannot be
smaller than a full floor area is because the office floors were
wide-open spaces, with no floor to ceiling partitions as normally found
in other office buildings. The effective partition-less area in each
floor was approximately 3000 square meters.


--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:14 PM
Dear Leader
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dry up Henry

nobody is interested.


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Old 08-20-2007, 06:50 AM
Henry
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Dear Leader wrote:

> nobody is interested.


Everyone with a working mind is very interested, because the
9-11 attacks are one of the most significant events in recorded
history, and we know that the Bush regime was complicit. Mindless,
apathetic sheep are not interested, because they are incapable of
comprehending anything more complex than their periodic desire to
eat or shit.


One of many indications of controlled demolition in the towers
was the presence of multiple forceful explosions ejecting out the
sides of the towers some 200 feet below the "collapse" zone. A
detailed analysis proves that the =only= possible explanation for
these forceful explosion is controlled demolition.
The Bush regime's "explanation" for these forceful explosions,
like much of it's 9-11 conspiracy theory, is comical as well as
physically impossible.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf

High Velocity Bursts of Debris From Point-Like Sources in the
WTC Towers
Kevin Ryan, 6/13/2007
Since September 11th, 2001, there have been two competing hypotheses
to explain the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings. The
first hypothesis, a fire-induced collapse of all three buildings, has
undergone numerous variations over the years, as government scientists
have worked to keep it alive while ignoring the second hypothesis.[1]
That second hypothesis is the controlled demolition of all three
buildings. There is a great deal of compelling evidence for the
demolition hypothesis, including the following physical facts about the
destruction of each building.

• Sudden onset of failure
• Near free-fall speed of “collapse”
• Symmetrical “collapse”
• Many eyewitness testimonies to explosions and flashes of light
• Small rubble piles (WTC 7 fell into its own footprint)
• Molten metal in the rubble piles and pouring from WTC 2
• Dust clouds resembling pyroclastic flows from volcanoes
• Sulfidation and intergranular melting of the steel

Currently, the only official explanation given for these devastating
events is a provably false “collapse initiation sequence” for two of
the three buildings, provided by the National Institute of Standards
and Technology (NIST).[2] By failing to explain the actual collapse
dynamics, NIST was able to avoid all of the evidence cited above.
Additionally, they were able to avoid considerable circumstantial
evidence in favor of the demolition hypothesis (e.g. evidence destroyed
or withheld, extensive foreknowledge).
This paper aims to bring to light just one specific aspect of the
physical evidence, namely, the phenomena known as “demolition squibs”.
In actuality, this evidence is better described as high velocity bursts
of debris ejected from point-like sources near the exterior facade as
each building disintegrated. The demolition hypothesis suggests that
these bursts of debris are the result of the detonation of explosive
charges (squibs), placed at key points in the structure to facilitate
the removal of resistance. But it’s important to note that it is the
bursts of debris themselves that are the actual evidence, not the
presumed cause of those bursts.
There are many photographs in the public domain showing these bursts
of debris, and all parties agree to the existence of this evidence.
Unfortunately, NIST will not release the thousands of pieces of
photographic and video evidence they have collected at taxpayer
expense that might help us to better understand what happened. But in
the example at the link below we can see two such bursts being ejected
simultaneously from different faces of the building, and apparently at
different levels, some ten to twenty floors below the “collapse” front.
2 Figure 1 – Bursts of debris emanating from the sides of a WTC tower
In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts
continue throughout the duration of each tower’s destruction, and all of
them are similar in shape and velocity. Each of these was a sharp
emission that appeared to come from a point-like source, ejecting
approximately 50 to 100 feet from the side of the building in a fraction
of a second. From the extracted frames of the KTLA video (ref. 2), we
can estimate that one of the first bursts was fully ejected in
approximately 0.45 seconds. This gives an average burst velocity of
approximately 170 feet per second (fps). Others have estimated the
velocity of these ejections at over 1100 fps.[4]
These bursts were ignored by government investigators for a period of
several years, as was all other evidence for the demolition hypothesis.
But after being forced to field many “frequently asked questions”,
NIST’s Shyam Sunder finally provided a semiofficial explanation. In a
March 2005 article by Popular Mechanics, Sunder called these bursts
“puffs of dust”, and explained "When you have a significant portion of
a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the
window. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled
demolition, but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that
perception."[5]
Unfortunately for Sunder, NIST was forced to abandon that answer, in the
summer of 2006, saying “NIST’s findings do not support the ‘pancake
theory’ of collapse.” In an attempt to maintain their faltering
fire-induced collapse hypothesis, NIST tried to retain the essence of
the explanation, despite having forsaken pancaking floors. They did so
by saying “the falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of
it—much like the action of a piston—forcing smoke and debris out the
windows as the stories below failed sequentially.”[6] 3
Although the piston analogy might have made some minimal sense for the
discarded pancake theory, it does not work at all for NIST’s current
pile-driver theory. A piston is a sliding shaft that fits within an
enclosed cylinder, whose action within the cylinder causes the volume
and pressure to change. But the WTC buildings did not have sections
acting like pistons at any time before, or during, their disintegration.
Without pancaking floors, there is no internal shaft to slide down
within the “enclosed cylinder” of these tall buildings.
Because the government scientists never did any physical testing to
support this latest compression argument, we must try to imagine for
ourselves how the disintegrating building could have created the
ejections of debris. To be the result of overpressures created from the
falling mass, these bursts had to emanate from highly pressurized
containers that were tightly sealed on all sides except the point of
ejection. With his 2005 pancaking floors hypothesis, NIST’s Shyam Sunder
suggested that these pressurized containers were entire floor areas,
compressed by the falling mass. The reason these containers cannot be
smaller than a full floor area is because the office floors were
wide-open spaces, with no floor to ceiling partitions as normally found
in other office buildings. The effective partition-less area in each
floor was approximately 3000 square meters.


--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:51 AM
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:05:23 -0500, "Dear Leader" <spamless@spamless.com> wrote:

>nobody is interested.


You don't speak for the victims.

Do you hate them because they're Americans?
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:51 AM
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On Aug 20, 4:41 pm, * US * wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:05:23 -0500, "Dear Leader" <spaml...@spamless.com> wrote:
> >nobody is interested.

>
> You don't speak for the victims.
>
> Do you hate them because they're Americans?


I thought jets flew into the buildings.

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Old 08-21-2007, 12:51 AM
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Henry wrote:
<lunatic rantings snipped>

Henry Henry Henry - have you been off the near-beer again?

Anyone with anything other than shit for brains knows that to properly
bring down a building with an implosion one has to direct the charges
towards the middle, which is indeed what happened. (my sources confirm
this).

The photo's you refer to that show outward implosions from 200' below
are a hastily put together (and quite amateurish at that)photoshop job
done by members of a dissident Scottish clan made up primarily of
ex-communicated distillers that are secretly aiding the ancient Templar
orders to bring about their version of the new world order. Bush, like
yourself, is just another pawn / stooge in all this to divert attention
elsewhere whilst the real architects get ready for the "final solution".


Trouble is, while Bush et all are still diverting the attention they
need to divert, you are overdoing it a tad and come across more like a
mindless drooling fuckwit, and the powers that be are worried that even
the looniest of the moonbats are going to start doubting you and start
digging for the real reason behind all this.


BE CAREFUL!


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Old 08-21-2007, 05:22 PM
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:58:45 -0700, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 20, 4:41 pm, * US * wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:05:23 -0500, "Dear Leader" <spaml...@spamless.com> wrote:
>> >nobody is interested.

>>
>> You don't speak for the victims.
>>
>> Do you hate them because they're Americans?

>
>I thought jets flew into the buildings.


So?
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:19 AM
Henry
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Don Stockbauer wrote:

> I thought


Not really. You =simply= spewed a little.

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/



--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:19 AM
Henry
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GS wrote:
> Henry wrote:


> <lunatic rantings snipped>


> Henry Henry Henry - have you been off the near-beer again?


Awesome rebutal of the facts, kooker. You had help, didn't
you? <chuckle>

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf

"In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts
continue throughout the duration of each tower?s destruction, and all of
them are similar in shape and velocity. Each of these was a sharp
emission that appeared to come from a point-like source, ejecting
approximately 50 to 100 feet from the side of the building in a fraction
of a second. From the extracted frames of the KTLA video (ref. 2), we
can estimate that one of the first bursts was fully ejected in
approximately 0.45 seconds. This gives an average burst velocity of
approximately 170 feet per second (fps). Others have estimated the
velocity of these ejections at over 1100 fps.[4]
These bursts were ignored by government investigators for a period of
several years, as was all other evidence for the demolition hypothesis.
But after being forced to field many ?frequently asked questions?,
NIST?s Shyam Sunder finally provided a semiofficial explanation. In a
March 2005 article by Popular Mechanics, Sunder called these bursts
?puffs of dust?, and explained "When you have a significant portion of
a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the
window. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled
demolition, but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception."[5]
Unfortunately for Sunder, NIST was forced to abandon that answer, in
the summer of 2006, saying ?NIST?s findings do not support the ?pancake
theory? of collapse.? In an attempt to maintain their faltering
fire-induced collapse hypothesis, NIST tried to retain the essence of
the explanation, despite having forsaken pancaking floors. They did so
by saying ?the falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of
it?much like the action of a piston?forcing smoke and debris out the
windows as the stories below failed sequentially.?[6]
3
Although the piston analogy might have made some minimal sense for the
discarded pancake theory, it does not work at all for NIST?s current
pile-driver theory. A piston is a sliding shaft that fits within an
enclosed cylinder, whose action within the cylinder causes the volume
and pressure to change. But the WTC buildings did not have sections
acting like pistons at any time before, or during, their disintegration.
Without pancaking floors, there is no internal shaft to slide down
within the ?enclosed cylinder? of these tall buildings.
Because the government scientists never did any physical testing to
support this latest compression argument, we must try to imagine for
ourselves how the disintegrating building could have created the
ejections of debris.
To be the result of overpressures created from the falling mass, these
bursts had to emanate from highly pressurized containers that were
tightly sealed on all sides except the point of ejection. With his 2005
pancaking floors hypothesis, NIST?s Shyam Sunder suggested that these
pressurized containers were entire floor areas, compressed by the
falling mass. The reason these containers cannot be smaller than a full
floor area is because the office floors were wide-open spaces, with no
floor to ceiling partitions as normally found in other office buildings.
The effective partition-less area in each floor was approximately 3000
square meters.

It?s difficult to imagine how 283 steel columns in each of the Twin
Towers could have been compressed so rapidly and uniformly, while
collapsing at nearly free-fall speed through a vertical distance of 350
meters. But even if this feature of the fire-induced hypothesis was a
given, to initiate the gas pressure below, we would need to imagine the
falling mass as a flat plate, or a continuous sheet, exerting uniform
pressure at all points. If discontinuous, the falling mass would allow
pressure to be released upward. But we can infer that the falling mass
was probably not a uniform flat plate or a continuous sheet because
workers who cleaned up the site described how the debris at ground zero
was all pulverized, except for the steel assemblies. Photographic
evidence (as in Fig. 1 above) also indicates that the falling debris,
which appeared to explode outward to some extent, was cloud-like. Such
cloud-like debris could not form the continuous falling surface that
would be needed to create the downward pressure and compress the air
below.
The lack of a continuous compressive force in itself repudiates the
compressive piston hypothesis. But it is not enough to simply discredit
this latest weak answer from NIST. By showing how completely ineffective
NIST?s new argument is, we can better understand how desperate those
supporting the government?s ever-changing fire-based hypotheses have
become. Not only was there no way to compress the gas below, the floors
were not air tight, enclosed containers either, which means that, even
if the falling mass could exert a uniform downward pressure, it would
not be contained. There were eight large air supply and return
ventilation shafts located in the core areas of each floor.[7] There
were also three stairwells running throughout the building, and over
thirty elevator shafts at any given level. Any compressed air would have
had to equilibrate with open stairwells and elevator shafts, and with
any openings from these shafts to other parts of the building (i.e.
vent ducts). Additionally, we know that the fire in the north tower in
1975 was spread by means of openings in the floor slabs, of more than
one square foot area, used to transfer telephone cables.[8] All of these
facts indicate that any pressurized air would be forced to equilibrate
over large sections of the building, if not the entire lower section,
and could not be contained on one floor alone.




--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:19 AM
Al Dykes
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In article <46CBA04E.76C70BA7@treason.gov>,
Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:
>GS wrote:
>> Henry wrote:

>
>> <lunatic rantings snipped>

>
>> Henry Henry Henry - have you been off the near-beer again?

>
> Awesome rebutal of the facts, kooker. You had help, didn't
>you? <chuckle>
>
> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf
>
> "In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
>towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts



Explosively hot smoke and air blown down all the shafts and out any
possible opening while the upper floors were collapsing. The fireball
that resulted from the aviation gasoline wend down the shafts and
started trash fires everywhere it could. It also burned lots of
people in the elevators.



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Old 08-24-2007, 03:05 AM
Henry
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Al Dykes wrote:
> Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:


>> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf


>> "In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
>> towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts


> Explosively hot smoke and air blown down all the shafts and out any
> possible opening while the upper floors were collapsing.


If you could read or think, you'd be able to understand why that's
quite clearly impossible. Have someone help you read and understand the
article.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf

There is no way to create thousands of PSI far below the collapse
zone, and even if there was, there's no way for this compressed air
to focus like a laser in a small area. This is basic logic and
common sense - two thing you obviously lack.


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Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, , a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:18 PM
Al Dykes
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In article <46CE35BF.19371848@insidejob.gov>,
Henry <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote:
>Al Dykes wrote:
>> Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:

>
>>> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf

>
>>> "In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
>>> towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts

>
>> Explosively hot smoke and air blown down all the shafts and out any
>> possible opening while the upper floors were collapsing.

>
> If you could read or think, you'd be able to understand why that's
>quite clearly impossible. Have someone help you read and understand the
>article.


>
> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf
>
> There is no way to create thousands of PSI far below the collapse



WHo says that "thousands of PSI" existed or are needed to blow smoke
out a broken window?

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Old 08-24-2007, 02:18 PM
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On Aug 16, 9:02 pm, Henry <bushche...@treason.gov> wrote:

Both Akeem and The Big Boss Man are pretty rough oposition, but I
gotta go with Ax and Smash on this one. I say Demolition takes the
victory, and the tag titles in a decent 3 star brawl.

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Old 08-24-2007, 02:18 PM
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<boxing.on.dvd@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187947645.299076.6460@m37g2000prh.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Aug 16, 9:02 pm, Henry <bushche...@treason.gov> wrote:
>
> Both Akeem and The Big Boss Man are pretty rough oposition, but I
> gotta go with Ax and Smash on this one. I say Demolition takes the
> victory, and the tag titles in a decent 3 star brawl.


NOT!!! George "the Animal" Steel and Jimmy "Super FLY" Snooka!

as an OBTW I recall them actually teaming up as a tag team...worked well
together as I recall.


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Old 08-25-2007, 11:43 PM
Henry
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Al Dykes wrote:
> In article <46CE35BF.19371848@insidejob.gov>,
> Henry <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote:
>> Al Dykes wrote:
>>> Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:


>>>> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf


>>>> "In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
>>>> towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts
>>> Explosively hot smoke and air blown down all the shafts and out any
>>> possible opening while the upper floors were collapsing.

>> If you could read or think, you'd be able to understand why that's
>> quite clearly impossible. Have someone help you read and understand the
>> article.

>
>> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf
>>
>> There is no way to create thousands of PSI far below the collapse


> WHo says that "thousands of PSI" existed or are needed to blow smoke
> out a broken window?


Smoke drifting out of a broken window, eh? You kooks are funny. The
squibs are very forceful explosions of debris at high velocity covering
at least 50 feet laterally in a fraction of a second. The photo and video
evidence shows huge chunks of debris in those explosions. You should do
some basic research before you spew your comical idiocy. Your ignorant
drivel only only makes yourself and your cartoon conspiracy theory more
absurd.



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http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Al Dykes
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In article <46D0AA71.3F891F64@insidejob.gov>,
Henry <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote:
>Al Dykes wrote:
>> In article <46CE35BF.19371848@insidejob.gov>,
>> Henry <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote:
>>> Al Dykes wrote:
>>>> Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:

>
>>>>> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf

>
>>>>> "In videos we can see these bursts being ejected from the sides of the
>>>>> towers nearly thirty floors below the collapse front.[3] The bursts
>>>> Explosively hot smoke and air blown down all the shafts and out any
>>>> possible opening while the upper floors were collapsing.
>>> If you could read or think, you'd be able to understand why that's
>>> quite clearly impossible. Have someone help you read and understand the
>>> article.

>>
>>> http://www.journalof911studies.com/v.../Ryan_HVBD.pdf
>>>
>>> There is no way to create thousands of PSI far below the collapse

>
>> WHo says that "thousands of PSI" existed or are needed to blow smoke
>> out a broken window?

>
> Smoke drifting out of a broken window, eh? You kooks are funny. The



You still haven't given us the URL for avideo and the time within a
few seconds so we can all know what your are talking about.

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