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Old 02-22-2008, 09:18 AM
Stromata
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Default Did deadlifts for the first time

1st set - 40lbs
2nd set - 40lbs
3rd set - 50lbs

I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.

In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
weight that challenges me right now.


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Old 02-22-2008, 09:18 AM
Jason Earl
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"Stromata" <d@d.com> writes:

> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
> this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
> weight that challenges me right now.


There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone has
to start somewhere.

That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either your
math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our you
could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.

I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a bit
of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
much weight.

A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
deadlift a lot more than that.

Good luck,
Jason
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:38 PM
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"Stromata" <d@d.com> schreef:

> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs


Raw or with gear?

--
Pete



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Old 02-22-2008, 03:48 PM
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Jason Earl wrote:
> "Stromata" <d@d.com> writes:
>
>> 1st set - 40lbs
>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>
>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>
>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>> the weight that challenges me right now.

>
> There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone has
> to start somewhere.
>
> That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
> year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
> deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either
> your math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our
> you could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.
>
> I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
> repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a bit
> of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
> much weight.
>
> A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
> move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
> encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
> deadlift a lot more than that.
>
> Good luck,
> Jason


No the bars are 40 & 50lbs. These are pre-set barbells, non adjustable taken
off a barbell rack. 6yo lifting heavier t hen me? How big is he?


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Old 02-22-2008, 03:48 PM
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"Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in message news:fmBvj.33$T8.28@trnddc03...
> Jason Earl wrote:
>> "Stromata" <d@d.com> writes:
>>
>>> 1st set - 40lbs
>>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>>
>>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>>
>>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>>> the weight that challenges me right now.

>>
>> There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone
>> has
>> to start somewhere.
>>
>> That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
>> year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
>> deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either
>> your math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our
>> you could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.
>>
>> I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
>> repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a
>> bit
>> of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
>> much weight.
>>
>> A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
>> move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
>> encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
>> deadlift a lot more than that.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Jason

>
> No the bars are 40 & 50lbs. These are pre-set barbells, non adjustable
> taken off a barbell rack. 6yo lifting heavier t hen me? How big is he?


I'll echo what Jason said. If you're finding that weight challenging,
then you would benefit from some deadlift instruction. Deadlifting
isn't very popular these days - my theory is that it's hard work and
people don't want to work hard.

If you'd like to see the book/DVD I learned from, a link is below:

http://www.kbnj.com/ptp.htm

Best of luck to you. FWIW, I'm about 5' 7" and 150 lbs. and I
deadlifted 350+ lbs. at a meet a year or two ago. You can do it, too.

-S-
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:48 PM
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On Feb 22, 12:56*pm, "Uncle Bob" <unclebobru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Stromata" <d...@d.com> schreef:
>
> > 1st set - 40lbs
> > 2nd set - 40lbs
> > 3rd set - 50lbs

>
> Raw or with gear?
>
> --
> Pete


BAD Pete.

Stephen
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Old 02-22-2008, 05:15 PM
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Stromata wrote:
> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
> this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
> weight that challenges me right now.
>
>

Form is the vital thing. You're better off with less weight and perfect
form than using more than you can handle.

-paul
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:11 PM
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On Feb 22, 12:49 am, "Stromata" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
> this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.


Ain't it somthing! I discovered it for myself last summer -- don't
know why, really; just one day decided to do it, and boy, it was like
sex, man! Seriously, like a fucking rush -- and I don't say "fucking"
to be profane about it; I mean really it's like fucking: whoa, whew,
wow!!

> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
> weight that challenges me right now.


So you mean all you did was deadlift the O-bar??

I think being short is supposed to be an advantage, actually.

But I know what it means to have puny deadlifts: I have a prolapsed
disc that seriously affects muscular recruitment in my back and right
leg, so I'm still struggling with a 315-lbs. 1 RM. I only do it once
a week, too, so maybe I should practice it more often...but that's the
kicker: there's just so much to do! I could easily spend four hours
every day doing all the stuff I'd like to do, but then that would lead
to overtraining, etc.
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:20 PM
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"Stromata" <d@d.com> writes:

> Jason Earl wrote:
>> "Stromata" <d@d.com> writes:
>>
>>> 1st set - 40lbs
>>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>>
>>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>>
>>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>>> the weight that challenges me right now.

>>
>> There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone has
>> to start somewhere.
>>
>> That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
>> year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
>> deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either
>> your math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our
>> you could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.
>>
>> I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
>> repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a bit
>> of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
>> much weight.
>>
>> A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
>> move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
>> encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
>> deadlift a lot more than that.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Jason

>
> No the bars are 40 & 50lbs. These are pre-set barbells, non adjustable
> taken off a barbell rack. 6yo lifting heavier t hen me? How big is he?


He's not a pocket Hercules if that is what you mean.

The deadlift (done properly) allows you to move a lot of weight. I
don't even consider myself an intermediate lifter and I can lift nearly
double my body weight (I weigh 230 lbs.).

Think about it for a minute. You can't hardly get a job at a grocery
store without being able to lift 50 lbs., and that's not using a
barbell, that's using a box. Next time you are at your local Wal-Mart
(or wherever you happen to shop) take a look at the folks stocking the
shelves. All of those people had to demonstrate that they could lift a
50 lbs. box up off of the ground.

Part of the problem is that most people spend far too much time worrying
about their back. Now, I am not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV.
Anyone that takes any sort of medical advice from me is clearly insane.
That being the case I happen to believe that most people seriously
underestimate how much they can lift safely. In fact, it is my
completely unscientific opinion that strength training (and specifically
deadlifting) is one of the best ways to bulletproof your back. You just
have to lift enough weight.

Truth be told you should be able to clean 50 lbs. Heck, you can
probably *curl* 50 lbs if you use both arms.

It can be a little scary but if you concentrate on keeping your back
straight and driving through the floor with your heels I think that you
would be surprised at how much you can actually lift.

Once again, there's nothing wrong with starting light. Just make sure
you keep adding weight to the bar.

Jason
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Old 02-23-2008, 01:55 AM
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"Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in message news:Vntvj.9807$kz3.9033@trndny03...
> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
> this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
> weight that challenges me right now.
>


I do 150# 10-10-10-10 one day a week.

You need to add a little weight every week.
Be sure your hands are turned right and that you pull all the way till you
shoulders are "WAY" back.
Go slow, feel it

Burr


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Old 02-23-2008, 03:35 AM
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:43:34 -0800 (PST), Stephen Mulholland
<mulhollands@rocketmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>On Feb 22, 12:56*pm, "Uncle Bob" <unclebobru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Stromata" <d...@d.com> schreef:
>>
>> > 1st set - 40lbs
>> > 2nd set - 40lbs
>> > 3rd set - 50lbs

>>
>> Raw or with gear?
>>
>> --
>> Pete

>
>BAD Pete.
>
>Stephen


Hey Stephen, how the hell are you?
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Old 02-23-2008, 03:35 AM
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:49:41 GMT, "Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

>1st set - 40lbs
>2nd set - 40lbs
>3rd set - 50lbs
>
>I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
>this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
>In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
>weight that challenges me right now.
>

I'm sure that's a world record in some class of some federation.
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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Jason Earl wrote:
>
> Think about it for a minute. You can't hardly get a job at a grocery
> store without being able to lift 50 lbs., and that's not using a
> barbell, that's using a box. Next time you are at your local Wal-Mart
> (or wherever you happen to shop) take a look at the folks stocking the
> shelves. All of those people had to demonstrate that they could lift
> a 50 lbs. box up off of the ground.
>

Ah the blue-collar worker analogy. Well, it's true those guy have to lift
heavy loads, and retire early with broken backs. Not the best example for a
healthy back for life. I'm a desk jockey by trade, and I don't need to be
able to regularly lift loads heavier then myself.

> Part of the problem is that most people spend far too much time
> worrying about their back. Now, I am not a doctor, and I don't play
> one on TV. Anyone that takes any sort of medical advice from me is
> clearly insane. That being the case I happen to believe that most
> people seriously underestimate how much they can lift safely. In
> fact, it is my completely unscientific opinion that strength training
> (and specifically deadlifting) is one of the best ways to bulletproof
> your back. You just have to lift enough weight.
>

Yeah I would be insane listening to you for advice on protecting my back. I
think one should err on the side of caution when it comes to the back. Too
many stories is herniated disks on bodybuilding forums for my liking. Lots
of macho posturing on real heavy deadlifts, and not enough of the sad tales
of spinal surgery. I'll dial down the macho intensity and keep my back,
thank you very much.


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Old 02-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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Jason Earl wrote:
>
> Truth be told you should be able to clean 50 lbs. Heck, you can
> probably *curl* 50 lbs if you use both arms.
>

I can curl 50lb barbell no problem. Only 25lbs dumbbell, which makes sense,
dividing by half.

> It can be a little scary but if you concentrate on keeping your back
> straight and driving through the floor with your heels I think that
> you would be surprised at how much you can actually lift.
>

Yeah I'm very paranoid when it comes to keeping my back healthy. I had a
couple of scares in my youth, and I'm pretty careful.

> Once again, there's nothing wrong with starting light. Just make sure
> you keep adding weight to the bar.
>
> Jason


I am starting light and keeping it safe. Now when I'm in the middle of a
rep, I'm going full intensity. I just don't see why I should ramp up the
weight fast. If I am struggling with 50lbs, then I should keep doing it
until I master it.


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Old 02-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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John Hanson wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:49:41 GMT, "Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in
> misc.fitness.weights:
>
>> 1st set - 40lbs
>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>
>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>
>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>

> I'm sure that's a world record in some class of some federation.


I'm not competing against anyone dumbass.


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Old 02-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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Burr wrote:
> "Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in message
> news:Vntvj.9807$kz3.9033@trndny03...
>> 1st set - 40lbs
>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>
>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>
>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>

>
> I do 150# 10-10-10-10 one day a week.
>
> You need to add a little weight every week.
> Be sure your hands are turned right and that you pull all the way
> till you shoulders are "WAY" back.
> Go slow, feel it
>
> Burr


Thanks, I'll try to remember to do that next time. I'm going to keep the
40-40-50 and then graduate to 40-50-50 when I feel the 2nd 40lb set isn't
challenging anymore. I really want to take this particular compound slow and
steady.


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Old 02-23-2008, 01:20 PM
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"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> schreef:

>>In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
>>weight that challenges me right now.


> I'm sure that's a world record in some class of some federation.


The important thing here is that the federation tests for drugs, and that
the ones who get caught are banned for live.

--
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Old 02-23-2008, 05:05 PM
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:38:31 GMT, "Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

>John Hanson wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:49:41 GMT, "Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in
>> misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>>> 1st set - 40lbs
>>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>>
>>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>>
>>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>>

>> I'm sure that's a world record in some class of some federation.

>
>I'm not competing against anyone dumbass.
>

That comment wasn't directed at you.
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Old 02-23-2008, 06:52 PM
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"Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in message news:70Qvj.413$my3.378@trndny06...
> Jason Earl wrote:
>>
>> Think about it for a minute. You can't hardly get a job at a grocery
>> store without being able to lift 50 lbs., and that's not using a
>> barbell, that's using a box. Next time you are at your local
>> Wal-Mart
>> (or wherever you happen to shop) take a look at the folks stocking
>> the
>> shelves. All of those people had to demonstrate that they could lift
>> a 50 lbs. box up off of the ground.
>>

> Ah the blue-collar worker analogy. Well, it's true those guy have to
> lift heavy loads, and retire early with broken backs. Not the best
> example for a healthy back for life. I'm a desk jockey by trade, and I
> don't need to be able to regularly lift loads heavier then myself.
>
>> Part of the problem is that most people spend far too much time
>> worrying about their back. Now, I am not a doctor, and I don't play
>> one on TV. Anyone that takes any sort of medical advice from me is
>> clearly insane. That being the case I happen to believe that most
>> people seriously underestimate how much they can lift safely. In
>> fact, it is my completely unscientific opinion that strength training
>> (and specifically deadlifting) is one of the best ways to bulletproof
>> your back. You just have to lift enough weight.
>>

> Yeah I would be insane listening to you for advice on protecting my
> back. I think one should err on the side of caution when it comes to
> the back. Too many stories is herniated disks on bodybuilding forums
> for my liking. Lots of macho posturing on real heavy deadlifts, and
> not enough of the sad tales of spinal surgery. I'll dial down the
> macho intensity and keep my back, thank you very much.


You miss the point. I learned how to deadlift _after_ I had a herniated
disc, and it was the main tool in my rehabilitation from that injury. I
recommended a great book to you on the subject - read it, and learn how
safety and performance can go hand in hand to make you stronger _and_
more resistant to an injury.

There is no excuse not to work up to at least a 1.5 times bodyweight
deadlift for the average fitness enthusiast.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


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Old 02-23-2008, 08:49 PM
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:39:04 -0500, "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

>I'll echo what Jason said. If you're finding that weight challenging,
>then you would benefit from some deadlift instruction. Deadlifting
>isn't very popular these days - my theory is that it's hard work and
>people don't want to work hard.
>
>If you'd like to see the book/DVD I learned from, a link is below:
>
>http://www.kbnj.com/SHILL


Note: Freides is our resident spamming whore. He'll gladly refer you to a site that will
overcharge you to pick up a fraction of that overcharge for himself.

For more reasonable pricing for the book, try here:
http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac...y%2520american



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Old 02-25-2008, 01:15 AM
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"Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote in message news:u2Qvj.55$A93.53@trndny08...
> Jason Earl wrote:
>>
>> Truth be told you should be able to clean 50 lbs. Heck, you can
>> probably *curl* 50 lbs if you use both arms.
>>

> I can curl 50lb barbell no problem. Only 25lbs dumbbell, which makes
> sense, dividing by half.
>
>> It can be a little scary but if you concentrate on keeping your back
>> straight and driving through the floor with your heels I think that
>> you would be surprised at how much you can actually lift.
>>

> Yeah I'm very paranoid when it comes to keeping my back healthy. I had a
> couple of scares in my youth, and I'm pretty careful.
>
>> Once again, there's nothing wrong with starting light. Just make sure
>> you keep adding weight to the bar.
>>
>> Jason

>
> I am starting light and keeping it safe. Now when I'm in the middle of a
> rep, I'm going full intensity. I just don't see why I should ramp up the
> weight fast. If I am struggling with 50lbs, then I should keep doing it
> until I master it.

There is nothing wrong with what you are doing. And if by "mastering it" you
mean get your form and technique just right I agree with you wholeheartedly.


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Old 02-25-2008, 01:15 AM
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"Jason Earl" <jearl@xmission.com> wrote in message
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> "Stromata" <d@d.com> writes:
>
>> Jason Earl wrote:
>>> "Stromata" <d@d.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> 1st set - 40lbs
>>>> 2nd set - 40lbs
>>>> 3rd set - 50lbs
>>>>
>>>> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to
>>>> incorporating this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>>>>
>>>> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's
>>>> the weight that challenges me right now.
>>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with starting with a light weight. Everyone has
>>> to start somewhere.
>>>
>>> That being the case, I really don't mean to discourage you, but my 6
>>> year-old boy deadlifted 60 lbs. the first time he ever tried
>>> deadlifting. Heck, my olympic bar by itself weighs 45 lbs. Either
>>> your math is suspect (you aren't including the weight of the bar) our
>>> you could probably stand to push yourself a little harder.
>>>
>>> I suppose it is also possible that you are doing a whole pile of
>>> repetitions. If each of those sets is 20 reps then that's quite a bit
>>> of work. High repetition deadlifts are taxing even if you don't use
>>> much weight.
>>>
>>> A good training partner can often push you to try a little harder and
>>> move a little more weight. Please take this post as friendly
>>> encouragement. Some random guy (me) on the Internet thinks you can
>>> deadlift a lot more than that.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Jason

>>
>> No the bars are 40 & 50lbs. These are pre-set barbells, non adjustable
>> taken off a barbell rack. 6yo lifting heavier t hen me? How big is he?

>
> He's not a pocket Hercules if that is what you mean.
>
> The deadlift (done properly) allows you to move a lot of weight. I
> don't even consider myself an intermediate lifter and I can lift nearly
> double my body weight (I weigh 230 lbs.).
>
> Think about it for a minute. You can't hardly get a job at a grocery
> store without being able to lift 50 lbs., and that's not using a
> barbell, that's using a box. Next time you are at your local Wal-Mart
> (or wherever you happen to shop) take a look at the folks stocking the
> shelves. All of those people had to demonstrate that they could lift a
> 50 lbs. box up off of the ground.
>
> Part of the problem is that most people spend far too much time worrying
> about their back. Now, I am not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV.
> Anyone that takes any sort of medical advice from me is clearly insane.
> That being the case I happen to believe that most people seriously
> underestimate how much they can lift safely. In fact, it is my
> completely unscientific opinion that strength training (and specifically
> deadlifting) is one of the best ways to bulletproof your back. You just
> have to lift enough weight.
>
> Truth be told you should be able to clean 50 lbs. Heck, you can
> probably *curl* 50 lbs if you use both arms.
>
> It can be a little scary but if you concentrate on keeping your back
> straight and driving through the floor with your heels I think that you
> would be surprised at how much you can actually lift.
>
> Once again, there's nothing wrong with starting light. Just make sure
> you keep adding weight to the bar.
>
> Jason


That being said, it is critical the original poster find someone who can
teach him the correct form for deadlifting. Developing good habbits from the
beginning is a lot easier than correcting bad habbits later. Good form is
essential to longevity in deadlifting. As a 49 year old lifter I pulled 445
lbs at a bodyweight of 148 in competition. That was after 28 years of
lifting. That same year I squatted 400 pounds legally (tops of the quads at
the hip joint below the tops of the knees) so don't buy into the "squatting
is bad for your knees" myth either. These two exercises will go much farther
in putting mass on you and giving you strength for your everyday activities
than any other exercise.


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Old 02-25-2008, 11:43 AM
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On Feb 23, 3:00*am, John Hanson <jhan...@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:43:34 -0800 (PST), Stephen Mulholland
> <mulholla...@rocketmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
> >On Feb 22, 12:56*pm, "Uncle Bob" <unclebobru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Stromata" <d...@d.com> schreef:

>
> >> > 1st set - 40lbs
> >> > 2nd set - 40lbs
> >> > 3rd set - 50lbs

>
> >> Raw or with gear?

>
> >> --
> >> Pete

>
> >BAD Pete.

>
> >Stephen

>
> Hey Stephen, how the hell are you?


Hey John! Not bad at all. I poke my nose in here every day just to
make sure you're all behaving!

Stephen

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Old 03-05-2008, 02:38 AM
John Hanson
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:44:56 -0800 (PST), Stephen Mulholland
<mulhollands@rocketmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>On Feb 23, 3:00*am, John Hanson <jhan...@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:43:34 -0800 (PST), Stephen Mulholland
>> <mulholla...@rocketmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>> >On Feb 22, 12:56*pm, "Uncle Bob" <unclebobru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Stromata" <d...@d.com> schreef:

>>
>> >> > 1st set - 40lbs
>> >> > 2nd set - 40lbs
>> >> > 3rd set - 50lbs

>>
>> >> Raw or with gear?

>>
>> >> --
>> >> Pete

>>
>> >BAD Pete.

>>
>> >Stephen

>>
>> Hey Stephen, how the hell are you?

>
>Hey John! Not bad at all. I poke my nose in here every day just to
>make sure you're all behaving!
>

Well, that's more often that me. I was on the road that last 3 weeks
in Ohio and the weather was shitty. Now I'm home for a week and leave
Sunday for 8 days in Florida. We have our operations meetings the
first 3 days and then I'm off to the Keys to dive. I can't wait.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:59 PM
Stephen Mulholland
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On Feb 22, 5:49*am, "Stromata" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> 1st set - 40lbs
> 2nd set - 40lbs
> 3rd set - 50lbs
>
> I was wiped! It was very invigorating, and I look forward to incorporating
> this core exercise into my weekly routine from now on.
>
> In case anyone snickers at the low weight, I'm only 5'6" and that's the
> weight that challenges me right now.


My only thought is that you're making it harder for yourself by not
using bigger plates. A 40 lb barbell must be about three inches off
the ground.

As others have said, nothing wrong with starting light. Just make it
a little heavier pretty regularly. But I really do think you're
seriously underestimating your own strength. I'm not saying this just
to be a smartass, but my ten-year-old son can easily lift a 40 lb
dumbbell with one hand, and he's smaller and lighter than the average
10-year-old.

I just tested to make sure - it's a 20 kg db plus the weight of the
handle - about 45 lb in total. So BUTCH UP!!!

Stephen
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