Different routine - interesting results - wondering why

I read about an old routine I first tried 25 years ago. Basically,
you pick a heavy weight and do a set. You then rest until your
heartbeat drops back to 75% of max and repeat. You do this until you
fail at your set. This roughly took me about 1-1/2 hours.

The interesting result is the next day I had an incredible amount of
energy. I usually can't get out of bed in the morning. But after
this work-out I quite literally went from sleeping to standing next to
my bed raring to go. This latest for 3-4 days.

I've done this workout maybe three times over the years, sometimes
doing bench presses and sometimes squats. Each time with the same
results.

Any idea what'is happening to create the energy? I've always wondered
and I'm curious to know now if it can be done repeatedly, and if there
is any kind of additional calorie burn (I'm now 52 and every little
bit helps).

Tom

westbay... wrote:

> I read about an old routine I first tried 25 years ago. Basically,
> you pick a heavy weight and do a set.

How many reps? You mention bench presses and squats - are you lifting
a certain percentage of your max or some other weight. I'm asking by
way of defining "a heavy weight" as you mention above.

> You then rest until your heartbeat drops back to 75% of max and repeat.

You're determining max heartbeat or heart rate as 220 minus your
current age? If so, how are you monitoring that "your heartbeat drops
back to 75% of max"? I have a heart rate monitor, but haven't used it
in a long time.

> You do this until you fail at your set.

What do you define as failure? Not being able to complete one rep or
do you have a goal number of reps per set?

> This roughly took me about 1-1/2 hours.

That's "1-1/2 hours" of bench presses alone? Or squats alone? Or
several different exercises?

> The interesting result is the next day I had an incredible amount of
> energy. I usually can't get out of bed in the morning. But after
> this work-out I quite literally went from sleeping to standing next to
> my bed raring to go. This latest for 3-4 days.

That sounds very interesting. I'd love some specifics, of course.

> I've done this workout maybe three times over the years, sometimes
> doing bench presses and sometimes squats. Each time with the same
> results.
>
> Any idea what'is happening to create the energy?

No idea. Heck, I honestly have no idea what you're actually doing.

> I've always wondered and I'm curious to know now if it can be done
> repeatedly,

Try it and then report back. If it's creating all this extra energy
then, by all means, it would seem a no-brainer that you'd attempt to
replicate the result as often as possible, right? If the energy boost
lasts 3-4 days then I'd start by doing that workout, yes, every three
to four days.

> and if there is any kind of additional calorie burn (I'm now 52
> and every little bit helps).

If you're doing more work than in your regular workout and,
especially, if you're reaching your maximum heartbeat (I take that as
heart rate) repeatedly throughout your workout then, yes, I'd guess
that there's additional calorie burn occurring.

> Tom

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westbay106@yahoo.com <westbay106@yahoo.com> typed:
> I read about an old routine I first tried 25 years ago. Basically,
> you pick a heavy weight

Define "heavy". What percentage of your 1RM?

> and do a set.

How many reps?

> You then rest until your
> heartbeat drops back to 75% of max and repeat.

What if my heart rate never goes above 75%?

> You do this until you
> fail at your set. This roughly took me about 1-1/2 hours.
>
> The interesting result is the next day I had an incredible amount of
> energy. I usually can't get out of bed in the morning.

Why not? Do you suffer arthritis or similar?

> But after
> this work-out I quite literally went from sleeping to standing next to
> my bed raring to go. This latest for 3-4 days.
>
> I've done this workout maybe three times over the years, sometimes
> doing bench presses and sometimes squats.
> Each time with the same results.
>
> Any idea what'is happening to create the energy? I've always wondered
> and I'm curious to know now if it can be done repeatedly, and if there
> is any kind of additional calorie burn (I'm now 52 and every little
> bit helps).

What does your routine look like when your not doing this?


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"Bully" <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:

> Define "heavy". What percentage of your 1RM?

>> and do a set.

> How many reps?

>> You then rest until your
>> heartbeat drops back to 75% of max and repeat.

> What if my heart rate never goes above 75%?

>> You do this until you
>> fail at your set. This roughly took me about 1-1/2 hours.

>> The interesting result is the next day I had an incredible amount of
>> energy. I usually can't get out of bed in the morning.

> Why not? Do you suffer arthritis or similar?

>> But after
>> this work-out I quite literally went from sleeping to standing next to
>> my bed raring to go. This latest for 3-4 days.

>> I've done this workout maybe three times over the years, sometimes
>> doing bench presses and sometimes squats.
>> Each time with the same results.

>> Any idea what'is happening to create the energy? I've always wondered
>> and I'm curious to know now if it can be done repeatedly, and if there
>> is any kind of additional calorie burn (I'm now 52 and every little
>> bit helps).

> What does your routine look like when your not doing this?

Yeah.

And i would like to know the same things Bully would like to know. Dont ask
me *WHY.*

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Pete

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:53:21 -0000, "Bully" <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok>
wrote:

>In news:kv7fs21qqpp9hb0j2mr5klhn4vbmgvigp1@4ax.com,
>westbay106@yahoo.com <westbay106@yahoo.com> typed:
>> I read about an old routine I first tried 25 years ago. Basically,
>> you pick a heavy weight
>
>Define "heavy". What percentage of your 1RM?
>
>> and do a set.
>
>How many reps?
>
>> You then rest until your
>> heartbeat drops back to 75% of max and repeat.
>
>What if my heart rate never goes above 75%?
>
>> You do this until you
>> fail at your set. This roughly took me about 1-1/2 hours.
>>
>> The interesting result is the next day I had an incredible amount of
>> energy. I usually can't get out of bed in the morning.
>
>Why not? Do you suffer arthritis or similar?
>
>> But after
>> this work-out I quite literally went from sleeping to standing next to
>> my bed raring to go. This latest for 3-4 days.
>>
>> I've done this workout maybe three times over the years, sometimes
>> doing bench presses and sometimes squats.
>> Each time with the same results.
>>
>> Any idea what'is happening to create the energy? I've always wondered
>> and I'm curious to know now if it can be done repeatedly, and if there
>> is any kind of additional calorie burn (I'm now 52 and every little
>> bit helps).
>
>What does your routine look like when your not doing this?

I haven't done this particular routine in alot of years. I've always
thought about it though and wondered about the effect. I've been
lifting for over 30 years with various routines. Currently, going off
of yesterday's workout, I did 5 sets of 8 DB benches @ 110 lbs. I
then did 6 addt'l sets of 8 starting at 100 lbs and dropping 5 lbs per
set. Around two minute rest between. Then did 6 curl sets, 4 sets of
seated pulls, 4 sets of tricep extensions and then sit-ups.

On my leg days I do a circuit consisting of 8 reps of squats (start at
185), then hamstring, leg curls, leg extensions, seated leg press
(starting @ 535), calves and step ups. I then increase the weight and
repeat. I finish the circuit in roughly 8 minutes and repeat. I'm up
to 6 circuits, and since I've done this routine before I expect to get
to 7 circuits in an hour before I move on to something else.

The point is, I'm familiar with weights, and their effect on me. the
energy effect I'm talking is something different and special. It's
fairly intense.


I wasn't precisely clear on the routine. The weight isn't especially
important. I picked a weight that I knew would tire me over 8 reps. I
did it a long time ago and frankly I wasn't very strong so I probably
used 225 lbs. on the squat.

My heart would spike up when I did the set, and as soon as my heart
beat dropped to 75% of my max I did another set. I did 8 reps just to
get my heart beat going faster and move things along. After a while,
as I got tired, I dropped the reps. As the sets increase, I would
fatique and it would take longer for my heart to drop to 75%.
Eventually, I failed to do even one rep of the weight. That's when I
quit.

What do you think?

Tom

westbay...@yahoo.com wrote:
[...]

> What do you think?

I think that you did not answer the questions.

See also:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....3749ed7ecde473
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....4abe35a29cd513


> Tom

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In news:jfohs2tn3rlso4fbnu9v4j8aimma1o87st@4ax.com,
westbay106@yahoo.com <westbay106@yahoo.com> typed:
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:53:21 -0000, "Bully" <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok>
> wrote:
>
>> In news:kv7fs21qqpp9hb0j2mr5klhn4vbmgvigp1@4ax.com,
>> westbay106@yahoo.com <westbay106@yahoo.com> typed:
>>> I read about an old routine I first tried 25 years ago. Basically,
>>> you pick a heavy weight
>>
>> Define "heavy". What percentage of your 1RM?
>>
>>> and do a set.
>>
>> How many reps?
>>
>>> You then rest until your
>>> heartbeat drops back to 75% of max and repeat.
>>
>> What if my heart rate never goes above 75%?
>>
>>> You do this until you
>>> fail at your set. This roughly took me about 1-1/2 hours.
>>>
>>> The interesting result is the next day I had an incredible amount of
>>> energy. I usually can't get out of bed in the morning.
>>
>> Why not? Do you suffer arthritis or similar?
>>
>>> But after
>>> this work-out I quite literally went from sleeping to standing next
>>> to my bed raring to go. This latest for 3-4 days.
>>>
>>> I've done this workout maybe three times over the years, sometimes
>>> doing bench presses and sometimes squats.
>>> Each time with the same results.
>>>
>>> Any idea what'is happening to create the energy? I've always
>>> wondered and I'm curious to know now if it can be done repeatedly,
>>> and if there is any kind of additional calorie burn (I'm now 52 and
>>> every little bit helps).
>>
>> What does your routine look like when your not doing this?
>
> I haven't done this particular routine in alot of years. I've always
> thought about it though and wondered about the effect.

If it had such a profound effect, why didn't you adopt it on a regular
basis?

> I've been lifting for over 30 years with various routines. Currently,
> going off
> of yesterday's workout, I did 5 sets of 8 DB benches @ 110 lbs.

None too shabby.

> I then did 6 addt'l sets of 8 starting at 100 lbs and dropping 5 lbs per
> set. Around two minute rest between.

You did 11 sets of DB benches? To what purpose?

> Then did 6 curl sets, 4 sets of
> seated pulls,

You did the pulls BEFORE the curls, right?

> 4 sets of tricep extensions and then sit-ups.
>
> On my leg days I do a circuit consisting of 8 reps of squats (start at
> 185), then hamstring, leg curls, leg extensions, seated leg press
> (starting @ 535), calves and step ups. I then increase the weight and
> repeat. I finish the circuit in roughly 8 minutes and repeat. I'm up
> to 6 circuits, and since I've done this routine before I expect to get
> to 7 circuits in an hour before I move on to something else.
>
> The point is, I'm familiar with weights, and their effect on me. the
> energy effect I'm talking is something different and special. It's
> fairly intense.

So, I ask again, why did you not continue with the "special effects" workout
?

>
> I wasn't precisely clear on the routine. The weight isn't especially
> important. I picked a weight that I knew would tire me over 8 reps. I
> did it a long time ago and frankly I wasn't very strong so I probably
> used 225 lbs. on the squat.
>
> My heart would spike up when I did the set, and as soon as my heart
> beat dropped to 75% of my max I did another set. I did 8 reps just to
> get my heart beat going faster and move things along. After a while,
> as I got tired, I dropped the reps. As the sets increase, I would
> fatique and it would take longer for my heart to drop to 75%.
> Eventually, I failed to do even one rep of the weight. That's when I
> quit.
>
> What do you think?

Do you normally do any CV exercise?

> Tom



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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill