digestive leukocytosis and protein/powders consumption

Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
taking proteins? Why does this occur?
(been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).

Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
ingestion?

"Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1171517963.784939.184070@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>
> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
> ingestion?

I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never elevated,
despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder every month.
Not sure what others have experienced.

Richard

On Feb 15, 12:49 am, "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote:
> "Stinger" <mattwmc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1171517963.784939.184070@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
> > that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
> > count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
> > taking proteins? Why does this occur?
> > (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>
> > Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
> > ingestion?
>
> I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never elevated,
> despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder every month.
> Not sure what others have experienced.
>
> Richard


I'm x-posting this to other NGs in the hope that someone knows the
answers....

"Richard" <no@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> "Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
>> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
>> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
>> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
>> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>>
>> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
>> ingestion?
>
> I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never elevated,
> despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder every
> month.
> Not sure what others have experienced.

I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either of you
answer a couple questions?

Why do you get a CBC done every few months?

What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from protein powder
supplementation?

Thanks.

David

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:900Bh.1764$x74.622@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>
> "Richard" <no@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> > "Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
> >> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
> >> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
> >> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
> >> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
> >>
> >> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
> >> ingestion?
> >
> > I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never elevated,
> > despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder every
> > month.
> > Not sure what others have experienced.
>
> I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either of you
> answer a couple questions?
>
> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?

because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor hemoglobin
and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections that
required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month on
average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.

> What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from protein
powder
> supplementation?

You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is from tissue
damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets cause
inflammation?? I read that a high protein diet could cause gout. But..
maybe the exercising causes more inflamation anyway. I have no idea. David..
tell us why please.

Richard

> Thanks.
>
> David
>
>

In article <qQ3Bh.2512$Jl.735@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Richard" <no@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote >>
> >> "Richard" <no@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> >> > "Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> >> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
> >> >> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
> >> >> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
> >> >> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
> >> >> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
> >> >>
> >> >> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
> >> >> ingestion?
> >> >
> >> > I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never elevated,
> >> > despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder every
> >> > month.
> >> > Not sure what others have experienced.
> >>
> >> I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either of you
> >> answer a couple questions?
> >>
> >> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?
> >
> > because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
> > hemoglobin
> > and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections that
> > required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month on
> > average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.
>
> Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for monitoring
> the possible side effects of testosterone injections.
>
> >> What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from protein
> > powder
> >> supplementation?
> >
> > You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is from
> > tissue
> > damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets cause
> > inflammation?? I read that a high protein diet could cause gout. But..
> > maybe the exercising causes more inflamation anyway. I have no idea.
> > David..
> > tell us why please.
>
> Haven't a clue. Elevated WBC is, at best, a variable, non-specific, marker
> of inflammation, and I've never encountered the notion that protein powder
> supplementation was a risk factor for inflammation.
>
> I learn something new every day.
>
> Now if somebody would 'splain it to me!
>
> David

The only way I could see it happening is if the person had some sort of
allergic reaction to it.

I mean, if you eat animal flesh every day, are you going to get an
elevated white count?

Makes no sense to me. <shrugs>

I'd like to see the "why" explained too.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

"Richard" <no@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> "Richard" <no@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
>> > "Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
>> >> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
>> >> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
>> >> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
>> >> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>> >>
>> >> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
>> >> ingestion?
>> >
>> > I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never elevated,
>> > despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder every
>> > month.
>> > Not sure what others have experienced.
>>
>> I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either of you
>> answer a couple questions?
>>
>> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?
>
> because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
> hemoglobin
> and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections that
> required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month on
> average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.

Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for monitoring
the possible side effects of testosterone injections.

>> What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from protein
> powder
>> supplementation?
>
> You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is from
> tissue
> damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets cause
> inflammation?? I read that a high protein diet could cause gout. But..
> maybe the exercising causes more inflamation anyway. I have no idea.
> David..
> tell us why please.

Haven't a clue. Elevated WBC is, at best, a variable, non-specific, marker
of inflammation, and I've never encountered the notion that protein powder
supplementation was a risk factor for inflammation.

I learn something new every day.

Now if somebody would 'splain it to me!

David

Heres a link to a study done in 1930 "The Influence of Food Cooking on
the Blood Formual of Man" by Paul Kouchakoff (Suisse) M.D.

http://www.seleneriverpress.com/medi...EOFCOOKING.pdf

Pretty interesting in that it talks about how various cooked foods
effect white blood cell count.

On Feb 15, 4:02 pm, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <qQ3Bh.2512$Jl....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>,
> "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote >>
> > >> "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> > >> > "Stinger" <mattwmc2...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > >> >> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day. Does
> > >> >> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood cell
> > >> >> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about eating/
> > >> >> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
> > >> >> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>
> > >> >> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc after
> > >> >> ingestion?
>
> > >> > I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never elevated,
> > >> > despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder every
> > >> > month.
> > >> > Not sure what others have experienced.
>
> > >> I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either of you
> > >> answer a couple questions?
>
> > >> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?
>
> > > because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
> > > hemoglobin
> > > and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections that
> > > required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month on
> > > average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.
>
> > Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for monitoring
> > the possible side effects of testosterone injections.
>
> > >> What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from protein
> > > powder
> > >> supplementation?
>
> > > You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is from
> > > tissue
> > > damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets cause
> > > inflammation?? I read that a high protein diet could cause gout. But..
> > > maybe the exercising causes more inflamation anyway. I have no idea.
> > > David..
> > > tell us why please.
>
> > Haven't a clue. Elevated WBC is, at best, a variable, non-specific, marker
> > of inflammation, and I've never encountered the notion that protein powder
> > supplementation was a risk factor for inflammation.
>
> > I learn something new every day.
>
> > Now if somebody would 'splain it to me!
>
> > David
>
> The only way I could see it happening is if the person had some sort of
> allergic reaction to it.
>
> I mean, if you eat animal flesh every day, are you going to get an
> elevated white count?
>
> Makes no sense to me. <shrugs>
>
> I'd like to see the "why" explained too.
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove _ to validate e-mails.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

"Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote
> Heres a link to a study done in 1930 "The Influence of Food Cooking on
> the Blood Formual of Man" by Paul Kouchakoff (Suisse) M.D.
>
> http://www.seleneriverpress.com/medi...EOFCOOKING.pdf
>
> Pretty interesting in that it talks about how various cooked foods
> effect white blood cell count.

A 77 year old "study" by raw food advocates is your explanation for the OP's
question?

Wow.

I mean that.

Wow.

I do admire the effort, though.

David

> Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
>> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> > >> "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
>> > >> > "Stinger" <mattwmc2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> > >> >> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day.
>> > >> >> Does
>> > >> >> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood
>> > >> >> cell
>> > >> >> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about
>> > >> >> eating/
>> > >> >> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
>> > >> >> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>>
>> > >> >> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc
>> > >> >> after
>> > >> >> ingestion?
>>
>> > >> > I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never
>> > >> > elevated,
>> > >> > despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder
>> > >> > every
>> > >> > month.
>> > >> > Not sure what others have experienced.
>>
>> > >> I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either of
>> > >> you
>> > >> answer a couple questions?
>>
>> > >> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?
>>
>> > > because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
>> > > hemoglobin
>> > > and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections
>> > > that
>> > > required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month
>> > > on
>> > > average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.
>>
>> > Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for
>> > monitoring
>> > the possible side effects of testosterone injections.
>>
>> > >> What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from
>> > >> protein
>> > > powder
>> > >> supplementation?
>>
>> > > You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is from
>> > > tissue
>> > > damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets cause
>> > > inflammation?? I read that a high protein diet could cause gout.
>> > > But..
>> > > maybe the exercising causes more inflamation anyway. I have no idea.
>> > > David..
>> > > tell us why please.
>>
>> > Haven't a clue. Elevated WBC is, at best, a variable, non-specific,
>> > marker
>> > of inflammation, and I've never encountered the notion that protein
>> > powder
>> > supplementation was a risk factor for inflammation.
>>
>> > I learn something new every day.
>>
>> > Now if somebody would 'splain it to me!
>>
>> > David
>>
>> The only way I could see it happening is if the person had some sort of
>> allergic reaction to it.
>>
>> I mean, if you eat animal flesh every day, are you going to get an
>> elevated white count?
>>
>> Makes no sense to me. <shrugs>
>>
>> I'd like to see the "why" explained too.

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> schreef:

>>> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?

>> because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
>> hemoglobin
>> and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections that
>> required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month on
>> average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.

> Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for
> monitoring the possible side effects of testosterone injections.

They tested me every 3 months in the beginning, later twice a year.

Now its only once a year. According to the doctors i see, it doesnt make any
sense to test more often. And they dont even measure T-levels or estradiol
anymore. Unless i point out a specific problem.

I am going tommorow. I can walk in without an appointment. lets see;

Hemoglobin
Hematocrite

y-GT
ASAT
ALAT

Cholesterol
HDL
Triglycerides

PSA

SHBG

Thats it.

>> You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is from
>> tissue
>> damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets cause
>> inflammation??

They once tested me to see if i had a neuromuscular disease.
The day before i was pounding away in the gym. One certain enzyme was
elevated to such a high level that it wasnt normal anymore.

But it was the result of the stress.

--
Pete

In article <45d8323c$0$26409$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>, "Pete"
<phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> schreef:
>
> >>> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?
>
> >> because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
> >> hemoglobin
> >> and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections that
> >> required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month on
> >> average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.
>
> > Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for
> > monitoring the possible side effects of testosterone injections.
>
> They tested me every 3 months in the beginning, later twice a year.
>
> Now its only once a year. According to the doctors i see, it doesnt make any
> sense to test more often. And they dont even measure T-levels or estradiol
> anymore. Unless i point out a specific problem.
>

They probably stopped testing your T because the test does not go that
high you juice monkey.

Does the age of the study mean it is wrong?

On Feb 17, 11:23 pm, "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Stinger" <mattwmc2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > Heres a link to a study done in 1930 "The Influence of Food Cooking on
> > the Blood Formual of Man" by Paul Kouchakoff (Suisse) M.D.
>
> >http://www.seleneriverpress.com/medi...EOFCOOKING.pdf
>
> > Pretty interesting in that it talks about how various cooked foods
> > effect white blood cell count.
>
> A 77 year old "study" by raw food advocates is your explanation for the OP's
> question?
>
> Wow.
>
> I mean that.
>
> Wow.
>
> I do admire the effort, though.
>
> David
>
> > Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> > "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> >> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote >>
> >> > >> "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
> >> > >> > "Stinger" <mattwmc2...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> > >> >> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the day.
> >> > >> >> Does
> >> > >> >> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white blood
> >> > >> >> cell
> >> > >> >> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about
> >> > >> >> eating/
> >> > >> >> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
> >> > >> >> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>
> >> > >> >> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured wbc
> >> > >> >> after
> >> > >> >> ingestion?
>
> >> > >> > I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never
> >> > >> > elevated,
> >> > >> > despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder
> >> > >> > every
> >> > >> > month.
> >> > >> > Not sure what others have experienced.
>
> >> > >> I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either of
> >> > >> you
> >> > >> answer a couple questions?
>
> >> > >> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?
>
> >> > > because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
> >> > > hemoglobin
> >> > > and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T injections
> >> > > that
> >> > > required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each month
> >> > > on
> >> > > average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.
>
> >> > Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for
> >> > monitoring
> >> > the possible side effects of testosterone injections.
>
> >> > >> What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from
> >> > >> protein
> >> > > powder
> >> > >> supplementation?
>
> >> > > You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is from
> >> > > tissue
> >> > > damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets cause
> >> > > inflammation?? I read that a high protein diet could cause gout.
> >> > > But..
> >> > > maybe the exercising causes more inflamation anyway. I have no idea.
> >> > > David..
> >> > > tell us why please.
>
> >> > Haven't a clue. Elevated WBC is, at best, a variable, non-specific,
> >> > marker
> >> > of inflammation, and I've never encountered the notion that protein
> >> > powder
> >> > supplementation was a risk factor for inflammation.
>
> >> > I learn something new every day.
>
> >> > Now if somebody would 'splain it to me!
>
> >> > David
>
> >> The only way I could see it happening is if the person had some sort of
> >> allergic reaction to it.
>
> >> I mean, if you eat animal flesh every day, are you going to get an
> >> elevated white count?
>
> >> Makes no sense to me. <shrugs>
>
> >> I'd like to see the "why" explained too.

"Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote
> Does the age of the study mean it is wrong?

Absolutely not. No, indeed.

Good thing medical and nutrition sciences haven't advanced much in the last
seven decades. Otherwise, a study from 1930 advocates of "raw" food might be
thought to be humorous.

David
>
> "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "Stinger" <mattwmc2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>> > Heres a link to a study done in 1930 "The Influence of Food Cooking on
>> > the Blood Formual of Man" by Paul Kouchakoff (Suisse) M.D.
>>
>> >http://www.seleneriverpress.com/medi...EOFCOOKING.pdf
>>
>> > Pretty interesting in that it talks about how various cooked foods
>> > effect white blood cell count.
>>
>> A 77 year old "study" by raw food advocates is your explanation for the
>> OP's
>> question?
>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> I mean that.
>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> I do admire the effort, though.
>>
>> David
>>
>> > Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> > "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
>> >> > > "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> >> > >> "Richard" <n...@spam.invalid.domain> wrote
>> >> > >> > "Stinger" <mattwmc2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >> > >> >> Bodybuilders typically take protein/powders throughout the
>> >> > >> >> day.
>> >> > >> >> Does
>> >> > >> >> that mean they are going to have continually elevated white
>> >> > >> >> blood
>> >> > >> >> cell
>> >> > >> >> count? Is this a good thing? And what does this say about
>> >> > >> >> eating/
>> >> > >> >> taking proteins? Why does this occur?
>> >> > >> >> (been reading up on the raw vs cooked arguments).
>>
>> >> > >> >> Anybody know if the various Supplement manufactures measured
>> >> > >> >> wbc
>> >> > >> >> after
>> >> > >> >> ingestion?
>>
>> >> > >> > I get a CBC blood test every few months and my WBC is never
>> >> > >> > elevated,
>> >> > >> > despite the fact that I go through a big can of protein powder
>> >> > >> > every
>> >> > >> > month.
>> >> > >> > Not sure what others have experienced.
>>
>> >> > >> I don't know too much about this medical stuff, so could either
>> >> > >> of
>> >> > >> you
>> >> > >> answer a couple questions?
>>
>> >> > >> Why do you get a CBC done every few months?
>>
>> >> > > because I get T injections and I was told that I need to monitor
>> >> > > hemoglobin
>> >> > > and hematocrit. Also had some other problems before the T
>> >> > > injections
>> >> > > that
>> >> > > required a CBC. Shit, I get a lot of blood tests.. like, 2 each
>> >> > > month
>> >> > > on
>> >> > > average. its a wonder that I have any blood left.
>>
>> >> > Hmmm...maybe Pete could chime in here. Seems a bit excessive for
>> >> > monitoring
>> >> > the possible side effects of testosterone injections.
>>
>> >> > >> What is the physiological mechanism for an increased WBC from
>> >> > >> protein
>> >> > > powder
>> >> > >> supplementation?
>>
>> >> > > You know David.. you're just not telling us!? High WBC count is
>> >> > > from
>> >> > > tissue
>> >> > > damage, physical stress, infection, etc. Do high protein diets
>> >> > > cause
>> >> > > inflammation?? I read that a high protein diet could cause gout.
>> >> > > But..
>> >> > > maybe the exercising causes more inflamation anyway. I have no
>> >> > > idea.
>> >> > > David..
>> >> > > tell us why please.
>>
>> >> > Haven't a clue. Elevated WBC is, at best, a variable, non-specific,
>> >> > marker
>> >> > of inflammation, and I've never encountered the notion that protein
>> >> > powder
>> >> > supplementation was a risk factor for inflammation.
>>
>> >> > I learn something new every day.
>>
>> >> > Now if somebody would 'splain it to me!
>>
>> >> > David
>>
>> >> The only way I could see it happening is if the person had some sort
>> >> of
>> >> allergic reaction to it.
>>
>> >> I mean, if you eat animal flesh every day, are you going to get an
>> >> elevated white count?
>>
>> >> Makes no sense to me. <shrugs>
>>
>> >> I'd like to see the "why" explained too.
>
>

"Will Brink" <willbrink@comcast.net> schreef:

>> Now its only once a year. According to the doctors i see, it doesnt make
>> any
>> sense to test more often. And they dont even measure T-levels or
>> estradiol
>> anymore. Unless i point out a specific problem.

> They probably stopped testing your T because the test does not go that
> high you juice monkey.

I once had a whopping 93 Nmol or something after a few weeks of Pregnyl.
And massive ejaculations. Unbelievable.

And that LHRH test. A synthetic analog of LHRH (GnRH) enters the
bloodstream.
I believe there are nasal sprays with gonadereline, but nobody uses it. At
least, not that i am aware of.

Pete

Cohen wrote:
[...]

> I don't know too much about this medical
> stuff,

That's a nomination.

[...]

> What is the physiological mechanism for
> an increased WBC from protein powder
> supplementation?

Magic.

> Thanks.

Just a guess.

> David

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Curt

In article <1171864202.653586.118780@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>,
"Stinger" <mattwmc2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does the age of the study mean it is wrong?

Why yes, yes it does. And stop top posting.