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    [email protected] Guest

    Default Does walking help tone up the body?

    I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?


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    TheGist Guest

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    [email protected] wrote:
    > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?

    There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    maybe squats
    Walking daily will help burn some extra calories if you need to but not
    much else. The human body evolved in conditions where walking long
    distances to forage for food was a vital requirement so if you walk a
    couple of miles a day you just might be breaking even with our cave
    dwelling ancestors. The point of this is that it won't be challenging
    your body too much(unless you are grossly obese) and thus there will be
    little to no stress on the muscle fibers to encourage growth.
    If you already have an awesome chest/abs underneath rolls of fat than
    perhaps walking and running might help you cut up a bit but you'l need
    to pay attention to your diet.
    I hope this helps...believe it or not you are asking kind of a big question.

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    Edna Pearl Guest

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    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.


    Then do weightlifting routines that include lifts that target those areas --
    abs, obliques, pecs, shoulders -- and one-sided lifts. This website
    www.exrx.net will give you some ideas. Also include complex lifts like
    squats and deadlifts to keep your body in good overall shape and proportion.

    >Will walking daily help me?


    Yes. Walking is quite decent cardio, especially for a beginner.

    Have fun :-)

    ep



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    David Guest

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    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?


    It certainly will . . . provided you are walking on your hands .
    >




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    Andrzej Rosa Guest

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    Dnia 2007-01-09 [email protected] napisał(a):
    > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?


    I never seen a fat postman (until I went to Germany, but they use
    mopeds there). Walking or running burns the same amount of calories
    per distance covered. Intense training is a bit better, because you
    damage your muscles and recovery takes some additional calories. It
    may look like not much, but think how many excess calories it takes to
    carry around your gut? Not much either, yet you probably have a
    relatively stable weight.

    So walking will help, and because you do not have to get all sweaty you
    may walk to your work, walk to buy groceries, avoid elevators as a
    rule, hide your remote control so you'll have to get up every time you
    want to switch channel and all that. It will increase your calorie
    expenditure probably more than three running sessions per week.

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    Andrzej Rosa Guest

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    Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisał(a):
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >> I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?

    > There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    > maybe squats


    Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men.
    Men look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and
    arms than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally
    considered to be a pinnacle of male beauty.

    > Walking daily will help burn some extra calories if you need to but not
    > much else. The human body evolved in conditions where walking long
    > distances to forage for food was a vital requirement so if you walk a
    > couple of miles a day you just might be breaking even with our cave
    > dwelling ancestors.


    I think that you, and many others too, happen to overemphasize the
    activity levels of hunter-gatherers. Sure, they had to hunt and
    gather, but it took them less time that it may look like, and even this
    time was mainly spent on waiting. There was once a study on how much
    work a bushmen tribe did, and it was less than two hours per day. They
    lived in a very difficult environment and most of their time they spent
    doing nothing or playing games. Agriculture demanded a lot of effort,
    hunter-gatherer lifestyle was more about skill and luck.

    > The point of this is that it won't be challenging
    > your body too much(unless you are grossly obese) and thus there will be
    > little to no stress on the muscle fibers to encourage growth.


    He wants to slim down, so it's okay, isn't it?

    > If you already have an awesome chest/abs underneath rolls of fat than
    > perhaps walking and running might help you cut up a bit but you'l need
    > to pay attention to your diet.


    What if he doesn't have an awesome chest/abs, but if he really doesn't
    care about awesomeness in this areas too? It happens to people. ;-)

    > I hope this helps...believe it or not you are asking kind of a big question.


    Not really. He just asked if walking can make enough of a difference
    in calorie expenditure to slim him down a bit. The answer is that it
    actually may work just fine, depending mostly how much he'd walk.

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    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

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    TheGist Guest

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    Andrzej Rosa wrote:
    > Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisał(a):
    >> [email protected] wrote:
    >>> I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?

    >> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >> maybe squats

    >
    > Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    > aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men.
    > Men look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and
    > arms than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally
    > considered to be a pinnacle of male beauty.


    I believe, based on my personal experience, and what I have read, that
    squats are a great all body excercise. They directly work the muscle
    groups you mentioned but also aid in the growth of other muscles as
    squating promotes all over muscle growth. I really gained mass when I
    started squatting.
    Articles such as this support this
    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...9/ai_104682197
    although that is far from a very scientific piece, I'll admit.


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    Will Brink Guest

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    In article <[email protected] .com>,
    [email protected] wrote:

    > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.


    Then consider exercising your chest and stomach.

    >Will walking daily help me?


    Get from one place to another, yes. Do anything for your chest? Not really.

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    Andrzej Rosa Guest

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    Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisał(a):
    > Andrzej Rosa wrote:
    >> Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisał(a):
    >>> [email protected] wrote:
    >>>> I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?
    >>> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >>> maybe squats

    >>
    >> Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    >> aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men.
    >> Men look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and
    >> arms than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally
    >> considered to be a pinnacle of male beauty.

    >
    > I believe, based on my personal experience, and what I have read, that
    > squats are a great all body excercise. They directly work the muscle
    > groups you mentioned but also aid in the growth of other muscles


    To the extent they work them. You contract a lot of muscles while
    squatting, so all of those muscles will grow to some extent.

    > as squating promotes all over muscle growth.


    It promotes the growth of muscles which are exercised by squatting.

    > I really gained mass when I started squatting.


    Nothing strange in that. You started to exercise the biggest muscles
    of your body, which were possibly previously undertrained too.

    > Articles such as this support this
    > http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...9/ai_104682197
    > although that is far from a very scientific piece, I'll admit.


    What do they exactly say? That if you squat with a lot of weight a lot
    of muscles must work at simply transferring the force from your legs?
    Sure. All those muscles are exercised at the same time. Even more
    when it comes to deadlifting, clean&jerking, stone lifting, farmer
    walking, tossing a barrel, carrying a sandbag, pushing a wheelbarrow,
    pushing a car or loads of other movements.

    However, there are two things to consider when training for aesthetics.
    First, that even if whole body moves are best at building strength in
    your whole body, they totally fry your CNS. While training for
    aesthetics one is less concerned with strength and more with muscles,
    so from the point of view of maximal stimulus to the muscles, it's often
    better to break one CNS demanding exercise into two easier ones.
    Secondly it's what I already wrote. Lower body development happens to
    contribute significantly less to male aesthetics than upper body
    development.

    Please, do get me right here. I'm not trying to diminish the value of
    squats. Or maybe I am trying to do just that? Possible, because
    sometimes squats happen to be regarded as almost holy, which they are
    not. An exercise like all the others, with advantages and
    disadvantages.

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    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

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    Shute Guest

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    On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:19:40 +0000 (UTC), Andrzej Rosa
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    >> as squating promotes all over muscle growth.

    >
    >It promotes the growth of muscles which are exercised by squatting.
    >
    >> I really gained mass when I started squatting.

    >
    >Nothing strange in that. You started to exercise the biggest muscles
    >of your body, which were possibly previously undertrained too.


    Do you think these kinds of statements came from so many people
    neglecting their legs? If you never worked your legs before and then
    suddenly start then yeah they are going to grow pretty fast. And
    because it is such a big muscle it can add to overall muscle mass at
    quicker pace then say chest exercises.

    >However, there are two things to consider when training for aesthetics.
    >First, that even if whole body moves are best at building strength in
    >your whole body, they totally fry your CNS. While training for
    >aesthetics one is less concerned with strength and more with muscles,
    >so from the point of view of maximal stimulus to the muscles, it's often
    >better to break one CNS demanding exercise into two easier ones.
    >Secondly it's what I already wrote. Lower body development happens to
    >contribute significantly less to male aesthetics than upper body
    >development.


    Leg development can add weight and stability to the body.

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    Andrzej Rosa Guest

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    Dnia 2007-01-09 Shute napisał(a):
    > On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:19:40 +0000 (UTC), Andrzej Rosa
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>> as squating promotes all over muscle growth.

    >>
    >>It promotes the growth of muscles which are exercised by squatting.
    >>
    >>> I really gained mass when I started squatting.

    >>
    >>Nothing strange in that. You started to exercise the biggest muscles
    >>of your body, which were possibly previously undertrained too.

    >
    > Do you think these kinds of statements came from so many people
    > neglecting their legs?


    I suspect just that. People who train purely for aesthetics often cut
    themselves short by being "too smart" about that.

    > If you never worked your legs before and then
    > suddenly start then yeah they are going to grow pretty fast. And
    > because it is such a big muscle it can add to overall muscle mass at
    > quicker pace then say chest exercises.


    Sure. And let's not forget that squat is a full body exercise, so it's
    not just legs which will grow. So, let's compare two hypothetical
    twins. One squats, pulls and presses; the other has a chest day and
    biceps day in his routine. Who is going to have more muscles? Surely
    the first one. Who is going to look better? I'd put my money on the
    first one too, and that is because he will have way easier time at
    staying lean than chest & biceps twin. More muscle mass means more
    calories spent by just hauling them around, even if one ignores some
    metabolic advantage of having muscles instead of fat. Then it comes to
    the metabolic cost of training which also should favor a squatting twin.

    So I mean that a squatter will have easier job at staying lean, which
    generally should make him look better. But the second twin should
    probably have more upper body mass and if he got lean he'd look better
    with his shirt off.

    > Leg development can add weight and stability to the body.


    So can do baggy pants. ;-)

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    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

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    Curt Guest

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    riding... wrote:

    > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.
    > Will walking daily help me?


    So far as reducing bodyfat goes, I'd say walking daily absolutely won't
    hurt, however to truly "get a nice chest/stomach area" goes, well, I'm
    guessing that some form of resistance training will be required which
    specifically targets those areas of your musculature. In simple terms,
    throw some crunches and pushups into your daily (or every other daily)
    routine and you're golden.

    Best of luck.

    --
    Curt


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    Shute Guest

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    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:12:47 +0000 (UTC), Andrzej Rosa
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> Leg development can add weight and stability to the body.

    >
    >So can do baggy pants. ;-)


    I should have clarified that more. When you look at a man the upper
    body is what most people notice first. But if you where to push or
    grapple with someone the leg strength certain makes a difference. The
    guy with the skinny legs is top heavy with less overall weight. That
    might not be something people notice at first sight.

    BTW I have added about an inch to both my back and legs in the last 4
    months. I don't know if was the creatine or my workouts. I have only
    been on creatine for less than a month and I don't take too much. I
    hadn't notice because I was checking my arms as a reference which
    hadn't grown much at all.

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    Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\) Guest

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    "Andrzej Rosa" <[email protected]> schreef:

    > I never seen a fat postman...


    Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!

    I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    Would you?

    > (until I went to Germany, but they use
    > mopeds there). Walking or running burns the same amount of calories
    > per distance covered.


    Not really.

    Running at a slow pace, and running at a fast pace burns the same amount of
    calories per distance.

    When you walk, you have 2 feet on the ground in between steps. When you run,
    you launch yourself from gravity and both feet come from the ground in
    between steps. That requires more calories per distance. I am sure. Also,
    the arms move quite a bit to maintain balance/momentum.

    I am quite sure of this.

    > Intense training is a bit better, because you
    > damage your muscles and recovery takes some additional calories. It
    > may look like not much, but think how many excess calories it takes to
    > carry around your gut? Not much either, yet you probably have a
    > relatively stable weight.


    So getting fatter helps to burn more calories when you walk?

    Funny how that works eh ;-O

    > So walking will help, and because you do not have to get all sweaty you
    > may walk to your work, walk to buy groceries, avoid elevators as a
    > rule, hide your remote control so you'll have to get up every time you
    > want to switch channel and all that.


    If i take that advice i end up with 2-3% bodyfat...

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    Your turn dude" -- Will Brink

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    Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\) Guest

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    "TheGist" <[email protected]> schreef:

    > There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    > maybe squats


    How do squats work in that regard?

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    ATP* Guest

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    "Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a)" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message news:45a4cc93$0$77283$[email protected]..
    > "Andrzej Rosa" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >> I never seen a fat postman...

    >
    > Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!
    >
    > I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.
    >
    > Would you?
    >


    Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.



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    Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\) Guest

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    "ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:

    >>> I never seen a fat postman...


    >> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!


    >> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.


    >> Would you?


    > Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.


    I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling that fat
    people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have the tendency to
    let themselves go.

    So they might call in sick more often.

    Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...

    --
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    Andrzej Rosa Guest

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    Dnia 2007-01-10 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisał(a):
    > "Andrzej Rosa" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >> I never seen a fat postman...

    >
    > Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!
    > I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.
    >
    > Would you?


    No. I'd outlaw obesity. All people with high BMI would go to jail. ;-)

    >> (until I went to Germany, but they use
    >> mopeds there). Walking or running burns the same amount of calories
    >> per distance covered.

    >
    > Not really.
    >
    > Running at a slow pace, and running at a fast pace burns the same amount of
    > calories per distance.
    >
    > When you walk, you have 2 feet on the ground in between steps. When you run,
    > you launch yourself from gravity and both feet come from the ground in
    > between steps. That requires more calories per distance. I am sure. Also,
    > the arms move quite a bit to maintain balance/momentum.
    >
    > I am quite sure of this.


    I could agree. Sure, one would burn an additional picocalorie per
    kilometer quite easily by running instead of simply walking.

    >> Intense training is a bit better, because you
    >> damage your muscles and recovery takes some additional calories. It
    >> may look like not much, but think how many excess calories it takes to
    >> carry around your gut? Not much either, yet you probably have a
    >> relatively stable weight.

    >
    > So getting fatter helps to burn more calories when you walk?
    >
    > Funny how that works eh ;-O


    Well, yes. Sort of paradoxical, if you squint with your eyes a little.

    >> So walking will help, and because you do not have to get all sweaty you
    >> may walk to your work, walk to buy groceries, avoid elevators as a
    >> rule, hide your remote control so you'll have to get up every time you
    >> want to switch channel and all that.

    >
    > If i take that advice i end up with 2-3% bodyfat...


    I think that was one single best ever fat loss advice for channel
    browsers. ;-)

    --
    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

  19. #19
    Bully Guest

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    In news:45a4dc04$0$55282$[email protected],
    Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) <[email protected]> typed:
    > "ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >>>> I never seen a fat postman...

    >
    >>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!

    >
    >>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    >
    >>> Would you?

    >
    >> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.

    >
    > I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling
    > that fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have
    > the tendency to let themselves go.
    >
    > So they might call in sick more often.
    >
    > Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...


    Or are lazy...?

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    the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill



  20. #20
    Shute Guest

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    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:29:12 +0100, "Pete \(New & Improved, Version
    4.08a\)" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >>>> I never seen a fat postman...

    >
    >>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!

    >
    >>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    >
    >>> Would you?

    >
    >> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.

    >
    >I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling that fat
    >people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have the tendency to
    >let themselves go.
    >
    >So they might call in sick more often.
    >
    >Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...


    I have worked with quite a few smart guys who where fat Pete.
    Computer professionals don't get much exercises and their eating
    habits are often poor.

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    Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\) Guest

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    "Bully" <bully19@proteinbars.co.ok> schreef:

    >>>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.


    >>>> Would you?


    >>> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.


    >> I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling
    >> that fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have
    >> the tendency to let themselves go.


    >> So they might call in sick more often.


    >> Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...


    > Or are lazy...?


    Yeah, lazy too!

    Stupid, lazy and sick. All good reasons NOT to hire them.

    But i wouldnt hire women either. I hope that will make the fat guys feel
    better about themselves.

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    Brink



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    Pete \(New & Improved, Version 4.08a\) Guest

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    "Andrzej Rosa" <[email protected]> schreef:

    >>> I never seen a fat postman...


    >> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!
    >> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.


    >> Would you?


    > No. I'd outlaw obesity. All people with high BMI would go to jail. ;-)


    You are cruel.

    BTW, i got the result of my VO2 max result today. Pretty good.

    My heart and lungs have no trouble whatsoever supporting my weight.

    >>> (until I went to Germany, but they use
    >>> mopeds there). Walking or running burns the same amount of calories
    >>> per distance covered.


    >> Not really.


    >> Running at a slow pace, and running at a fast pace burns the same amount
    >> of
    >> calories per distance.


    >> When you walk, you have 2 feet on the ground in between steps. When you
    >> run,
    >> you launch yourself from gravity and both feet come from the ground in
    >> between steps. That requires more calories per distance. I am sure. Also,
    >> the arms move quite a bit to maintain balance/momentum.


    >> I am quite sure of this.


    > I could agree. Sure, one would burn an additional picocalorie per
    > kilometer quite easily by running instead of simply walking.


    I am not sure how big the difference is, but i am quite sure there is a
    difference between running and walking, other than the speed.

    >>> Intense training is a bit better, because you
    >>> damage your muscles and recovery takes some additional calories. It
    >>> may look like not much, but think how many excess calories it takes to
    >>> carry around your gut? Not much either, yet you probably have a
    >>> relatively stable weight.


    >> So getting fatter helps to burn more calories when you walk?


    >> Funny how that works eh ;-O


    > Well, yes. Sort of paradoxical, if you squint with your eyes a little.


    You would expect that the fat burns more calories, so eventually he becomes
    skinny. But that doesnt happen.

    >>> So walking will help, and because you do not have to get all sweaty you
    >>> may walk to your work, walk to buy groceries, avoid elevators as a
    >>> rule, hide your remote control so you'll have to get up every time you
    >>> want to switch channel and all that.


    >> If i take that advice i end up with 2-3% bodyfat...


    > I think that was one single best ever fat loss advice for channel
    > browsers. ;-)


    Yup!

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    Your turn dude" -- Will Brink

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    you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" -- Will
    Brink



  23. #23
    Bully Guest

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    In news:45a502e3$0$66015$[email protected],
    Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) <[email protected]> typed:
    > "Bully" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >>>>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    >
    >>>>> Would you?

    >
    >>>> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.

    >
    >>> I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling
    >>> that fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have
    >>> the tendency to let themselves go.

    >
    >>> So they might call in sick more often.

    >
    >>> Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...

    >
    >> Or are lazy...?

    >
    > Yeah, lazy too!
    >
    > Stupid, lazy and sick. All good reasons NOT to hire them.
    >
    > But i wouldnt hire women either.


    Or Curt...

    > I hope that will make the fat guys
    > feel better about themselves.



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    Bully
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    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
    the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill



  24. #24
    Bully Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    In news:[email protected],
    Shute <[email protected]> typed:
    > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:29:12 +0100, "Pete \(New & Improved, Version
    > 4.08a\)" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> "ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >>
    >>>>> I never seen a fat postman...

    >>
    >>>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!

    >>
    >>>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    >>
    >>>> Would you?

    >>
    >>> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.

    >>
    >> I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling
    >> that fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have
    >> the tendency to let themselves go.
    >>
    >> So they might call in sick more often.
    >>
    >> Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...

    >
    > I have worked with quite a few smart guys who where fat Pete.
    > Computer professionals don't get much exercises


    That's a choice.

    > and their eating
    > habits are often poor.


    So is that.


    --
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    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
    the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill



  25. #25
    Tom Anderson Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

    > Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisa?(a):
    >> [email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >>> I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?

    >>
    >> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >> maybe squats

    >
    > Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    > aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men. Men
    > look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and arms
    > than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally considered
    > to be a pinnacle of male beauty.


    Big, perhaps not, but firm, pert and powerful? Definitely. From
    interrogation of various prisoners, i've learned that women's priorities
    in a man's physique are, in order, back/shoulders, bum, legs, arms and
    then the rest. Insofar as arms can contribute to the appearance of
    breadth, they're above the lower body parts, but arms for arms' sake are
    not.

    And all of these come after height, confidence, and salary, of course.

    Of course, women are all different, YMMV, yadda yadda yadda, but this is
    universally true, without exception.

    tom

    --
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  26. #26
    Tom Anderson Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) wrote:

    > "ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >>>> I never seen a fat postman...
    >>>
    >>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job. Would you?

    >
    >> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.

    >
    > I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling that
    > fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have the
    > tendency to let themselves go.


    I have the same instinctive reaction. Which is crazy, since i know lots of
    people who are both fat and smart (and some who are thin and stupid). I
    think it's because i make a connection between being fat and being
    slothful, and between sloth and stupidity. The truth is that someone can
    be physically slothful while being an intellectual athlete, of course -
    but that doesn't do a lot for the waistline.

    tom

    --
    Curse me, God, for making you this way!

  27. #27
    Tom Anderson Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) wrote:

    > BTW, i got the result of my VO2 max result today. Pretty good.
    >
    > My heart and lungs have no trouble whatsoever supporting my weight.


    Wow. My heart and lungs would be crushed flat by your weight, i'm pretty
    sure.

    tom

    --
    Curse me, God, for making you this way!

  28. #28
    Bully Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    In news:45a50452$0$3359$[email protected],
    Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) <[email protected]> typed:
    > "Andrzej Rosa" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >>>> I never seen a fat postman...

    >
    >>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!
    >>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    >
    >>> Would you?

    >
    >> No. I'd outlaw obesity. All people with high BMI would go to jail.
    >> ;-)

    >
    > You are cruel.
    >
    > BTW, i got the result of my VO2 max result today. Pretty good.
    >


    Where did you got to get it done?

    --
    Bully
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    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
    the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill



  29. #29
    Larisa Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?


    David wrote:
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected] oups.com...
    > > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?

    >
    > It certainly will . . . provided you are walking on your hands .


    Or walking up stairs? I live on the 13th floor, and taking the stairs
    is a very cardiovascular experience. Taking the stairs with a backpack
    full of law textbooks probably does wonders for the leg muscles, too.

    LM


  30. #30
    Bully Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    In news:[email protected] oups.com,
    Larisa <[email protected]> typed:
    > David wrote:
    >> <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected] oups.com...
    >>> I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help
    >>> me?

    >>
    >> It certainly will . . . provided you are walking on your hands .

    >
    > Or walking up stairs? I live on the 13th floor, and taking the stairs
    > is a very cardiovascular experience. Taking the stairs with a
    > backpack full of law textbooks probably does wonders for the leg
    > muscles, too.
    >
    > LM



    Having sex as you walked up the stairs would be even more cardiovascular!

    --
    Bully
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    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
    the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill



  31. #31
    Shute Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:00:56 -0000, "Bully"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In news:[email protected],
    >Shute <[email protected]> typed:
    >> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:29:12 +0100, "Pete \(New & Improved, Version
    >> 4.08a\)" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> "ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >>>
    >>>>>> I never seen a fat postman...
    >>>
    >>>>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!
    >>>
    >>>>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.
    >>>
    >>>>> Would you?
    >>>
    >>>> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.
    >>>
    >>> I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling
    >>> that fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have
    >>> the tendency to let themselves go.
    >>>
    >>> So they might call in sick more often.
    >>>
    >>> Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...

    >>
    >> I have worked with quite a few smart guys who where fat Pete.
    >> Computer professionals don't get much exercises

    >
    >That's a choice.
    >
    >> and their eating
    >> habits are often poor.

    >
    >So is that.


    Did I say it wasn't?


  32. #32
    Bully Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    In news:[email protected],
    Shute <[email protected]> typed:
    > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:00:56 -0000, "Bully"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> In news:[email protected],
    >> Shute <[email protected]> typed:
    >>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:29:12 +0100, "Pete \(New & Improved, Version
    >>> 4.08a\)" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >>>>
    >>>>>>> I never seen a fat postman...
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!
    >>>>
    >>>>>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Would you?
    >>>>
    >>>>> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.
    >>>>
    >>>> I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling
    >>>> that fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they
    >>>> have the tendency to let themselves go.
    >>>>
    >>>> So they might call in sick more often.
    >>>>
    >>>> Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...
    >>>
    >>> I have worked with quite a few smart guys who where fat Pete.
    >>> Computer professionals don't get much exercises

    >>
    >> That's a choice.
    >>
    >>> and their eating
    >>> habits are often poor.

    >>
    >> So is that.

    >
    > Did I say it wasn't?


    I really have no idea what you are saying most of the time. I can read the
    words, but I don't really understand what they are intended to mean when
    they come from you.


    --
    Bully
    Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
    the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
    I



  33. #33
    ATP* Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?


    "Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a)" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message news:45a4dc04$0$55282$[email protected]..
    > "ATP*" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >>>> I never seen a fat postman...

    >
    >>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!

    >
    >>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    >
    >>> Would you?

    >
    >> Yes. Unless the job really demands a particular level of fitness.

    >
    > I know i am being prejudiced, but i always have this weird feeling that
    > fat people are not the most intelligent ones, or that they have the
    > tendency to let themselves go.
    >
    > So they might call in sick more often.
    >
    > Yeah, yeah, its terribly prejudiced, but still...
    >
    > --
    > Pete, The New & Improved Version


    In some cases you might be right........

    "The county parks department alerted police after discovering bookkeeping
    discrepancies they believed were caused by employee Joseph Fazio of Shirley.
    Police said they uncovered evidence that Fazio, 41, had stolen more than
    $3,000 in the last several months.

    Fazio, who was suspended from his $51,000-a-year position, has been with the
    parks department since 1988. He was responsible for processing a variety of
    fees, including beach parking, camping and beach permits. Throughout the
    year, Fazio was responsible for processing $1.5 million.

    According to a law enforcement source, Fazio said in a statement to police
    that he had taken about $10,000 from the parks department over the past six
    years. Fazio told police he had an eating disorder, and took the money to
    support his food addiction, the source said."

    http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/newsday/...arged+in+Theft



  34. #34
    Andrzej Rosa Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    Dnia 2007-01-10 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisał(a):
    > "Andrzej Rosa" <[email protected]> schreef:
    >
    >>>> I never seen a fat postman...

    >
    >>> Because they dont get the job if they sollicite for it!
    >>> I wouldnt hire fat people. For whatever job.

    >
    >>> Would you?

    >
    >> No. I'd outlaw obesity. All people with high BMI would go to jail. ;-)

    >
    > You are cruel.


    Well, I have to be. I'm impersonating a tyrant here, so it goes with
    the trade.

    > BTW, i got the result of my VO2 max result today. Pretty good.
    >
    > My heart and lungs have no trouble whatsoever supporting my weight.


    You do not expect me to go into such details, do you? I have better
    things to do, like invading and torturing.

    >>> When you walk, you have 2 feet on the ground in between steps. When you
    >>> run,
    >>> you launch yourself from gravity and both feet come from the ground in
    >>> between steps. That requires more calories per distance. I am sure. Also,
    >>> the arms move quite a bit to maintain balance/momentum.

    >
    >>> I am quite sure of this.

    >
    >> I could agree. Sure, one would burn an additional picocalorie per
    >> kilometer quite easily by running instead of simply walking.

    >
    > I am not sure how big the difference is, but i am quite sure there is a
    > difference between running and walking, other than the speed.


    It could be that between fast running and jogging there also is a
    difference, but it's quite probably unsubstantial.

    >>> So getting fatter helps to burn more calories when you walk?

    >
    >>> Funny how that works eh ;-O

    >
    >> Well, yes. Sort of paradoxical, if you squint with your eyes a little.

    >
    > You would expect that the fat burns more calories, so eventually he becomes
    > skinny. But that doesnt happen.


    But most fat people do not balloon into a hippopotamus either. You'd
    expect that if carrying fat around has no additional costs people would
    eventually get really fat, like Americans or maybe worse than that.
    Americans can sustain their level of fatness because they have more
    sedentary lifestyle than we have. Would they walk more they might be
    fat, but they couldn't be so bad. It just costs a lot of calories to
    walk around at 300 lbs.

    --
    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

  35. #35
    Andrzej Rosa Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    Dnia 2007-01-10 Larisa napisał(a):
    >
    > David wrote:
    >> <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected] oups.com...
    >> > I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?

    >>
    >> It certainly will . . . provided you are walking on your hands .

    >
    > Or walking up stairs? I live on the 13th floor, and taking the stairs
    > is a very cardiovascular experience. Taking the stairs with a backpack
    > full of law textbooks probably does wonders for the leg muscles, too.


    Good girl!

    --
    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

  36. #36
    Andrzej Rosa Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    Dnia 2007-01-10 Tom Anderson napisał(a):
    > On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
    >
    >> Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisa?(a):
    >>> [email protected] wrote:
    >>>
    >>> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >>> maybe squats

    >>
    >> Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    >> aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men. Men
    >> look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and arms
    >> than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally considered
    >> to be a pinnacle of male beauty.

    >
    > Big, perhaps not, but firm, pert and powerful? Definitely. From
    > interrogation of various prisoners,


    I feel for you, man.

    > i've learned that women's priorities
    > in a man's physique are, in order, back/shoulders, bum, legs, arms and
    > then the rest. Insofar as arms can contribute to the appearance of
    > breadth, they're above the lower body parts, but arms for arms' sake are
    > not.


    You are young so learn one more thing. What women think that they like
    and what they really like is often two different things. Or three
    different things. Or even more than that. Woman is able to like
    something, to think that she doesn't like it, to think that she does
    like it, to think that their girlfriends would like it and to think
    that she has no idea altogether about all that. And she doesn't have
    any, most of the time.

    My point? Look at male strippers and judge for yourself what kind of
    physique women like enough to pay money for watching. Pretty much your
    typical beach boy and that's it.

    > And all of these come after height, confidence, and salary, of course.
    > Of course, women are all different, YMMV, yadda yadda yadda, but this is
    > universally true, without exception.


    Sure.

    --
    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

  37. #37
    ATP* Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?


    "Tom Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] .li...
    > On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
    >
    >> Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisa?(a):
    >>> [email protected] wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?
    >>>
    >>> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >>> maybe squats

    >>
    >> Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    >> aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men. Men
    >> look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and arms
    >> than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally considered to
    >> be a pinnacle of male beauty.

    >
    > Big, perhaps not, but firm, pert and powerful? Definitely. From
    > interrogation of various prisoners, i've learned that women's priorities
    > in a man's physique are, in order, back/shoulders, bum, legs, arms and
    > then the rest.


    So you took various women prisoner and interrogated them, forcing them to
    tell you what turned them on? Is evidence obtained under such circumstances
    really reliable?



  38. #38
    Tom Anderson Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, ATP* wrote:

    >
    > "Tom Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected] .li...
    >> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
    >>
    >>> Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisa?(a):
    >>>> [email protected] wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I'd like to get a nice chest/stomach area.Will walking daily help me?
    >>>>
    >>>> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >>>> maybe squats
    >>>
    >>> Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    >>> aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men. Men
    >>> look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and arms
    >>> than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally considered to
    >>> be a pinnacle of male beauty.

    >>
    >> Big, perhaps not, but firm, pert and powerful? Definitely. From
    >> interrogation of various prisoners, i've learned that women's priorities
    >> in a man's physique are, in order, back/shoulders, bum, legs, arms and
    >> then the rest.

    >
    > So you took various women prisoner and interrogated them, forcing them to
    > tell you what turned them on? Is evidence obtained under such circumstances
    > really reliable?


    Polygraph, man, polygraph!

    tom

    --
    I'd get more sense out of a crossed line with the Krankies

  39. #39
    Tom Anderson Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

    > Dnia 2007-01-10 Tom Anderson napisa?(a):
    >> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
    >>
    >>> Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisa?(a):
    >>>> [email protected] wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >>>> maybe squats
    >>>
    >>> Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    >>> aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men. Men
    >>> look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and arms
    >>> than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally considered
    >>> to be a pinnacle of male beauty.

    >>
    >> i've learned that women's priorities in a man's physique are, in order,
    >> back/shoulders, bum, legs, arms and then the rest. Insofar as arms can
    >> contribute to the appearance of breadth, they're above the lower body
    >> parts, but arms for arms' sake are not.

    >
    > You are young so learn one more thing. What women think that they like
    > and what they really like is often two different things. Or three
    > different things. Or even more than that. Woman is able to like
    > something, to think that she doesn't like it, to think that she does
    > like it, to think that their girlfriends would like it and to think that
    > she has no idea altogether about all that. And she doesn't have any,
    > most of the time.


    Hmm. A woman does nonetheless like certain things - but you're right,
    perhaps they themselves don't really know what. The converse is certainly
    true - there are girls i've found really attractive, despite them being
    the exact opposite of what i consider my preferred type to be.

    > My point? Look at male strippers and judge for yourself what kind of
    > physique women like enough to pay money for watching. Pretty much your
    > typical beach boy and that's it.


    I'm not convinced that male strippers are a good data point - strippers
    are not sex objects for women, they're comedy acts.

    I think a better source of data would be the descriptions of men in
    romance novels, which are essentially the female equivalent of
    pornography. However, i've not read enough of these to give you chapter
    and verse.

    tom

    --
    I'd get more sense out of a crossed line with the Krankies

  40. #40
    Edna Pearl Guest

    Default Re: Does walking help tone up the body?

    "Andrzej Rosa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:eo40qf$9cj$[email protected]..
    > Dnia 2007-01-10 Tom Anderson napisał(a):
    >> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
    >>
    >>> Dnia 2007-01-09 TheGist napisa?(a):
    >>>> [email protected] wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> There is no one excercise that will make your body look awesome besides
    >>>> maybe squats
    >>>
    >>> Squats build legs (without calves) glutes and lower back. Great
    >>> aesthetic enhancer for girls, but not exceptionally great for men. Men
    >>> look better with broad shoulders, broad backs, massive chest and arms
    >>> than with massive hams and glutes. Big ass isn't generally considered
    >>> to be a pinnacle of male beauty.

    >>
    >> Big, perhaps not, but firm, pert and powerful? Definitely. From
    >> interrogation of various prisoners,

    >
    > I feel for you, man.
    >
    >> i've learned that women's priorities
    >> in a man's physique are, in order, back/shoulders, bum, legs, arms and
    >> then the rest. Insofar as arms can contribute to the appearance of
    >> breadth, they're above the lower body parts, but arms for arms' sake are
    >> not.

    >
    > You are young so learn one more thing. What women think that they like
    > and what they really like is often two different things. Or three
    > different things. Or even more than that. Woman is able to like
    > something, to think that she doesn't like it, to think that she does
    > like it, to think that their girlfriends would like it and to think
    > that she has no idea altogether about all that. And she doesn't have
    > any, most of the time.


    You do realize this (unqualified universal and hence misleading) statement
    is no less true of men, too, right? ::-D In fact, I'd have to say that
    Western men (espeically Latins) are raised in such a way as to develop even
    less "personal insight" or understanding of their own motivations than women
    do. Like, you know that old cliche about men thinking with their dicks?
    Men *do* know, unequivocally, what their dicks want -- I'm not arguing with
    that at all. Not at all. It's the rest of them that seems to get confused a
    lot about what they "like," or what they want, or what's in their best
    long-term interest viewed rationally, etc. But if knowing for sure what
    your dick wants is, like, a *good* thing, most men really do seem to have
    that one nailed.
    >
    > My point? Look at male strippers and judge for yourself what kind of
    > physique women like enough to pay money for watching. Pretty much your
    > typical beach boy and that's it.


    But that's not necessarily the man that a woman would choose as a mate. Or
    even to be seen in public with :-)

    >
    >> And all of these come after height, confidence, and salary, of course.
    >> Of course, women are all different, YMMV, yadda yadda yadda, but this is
    >> universally true, without exception.

    >
    > Sure.
    >
    > --
    > Andrzej Rosa 1127R




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