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Old 04-25-2007, 01:21 AM
Will Brink
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Looking at Shooters and Killers and Finding Men: Ann Woolner

By Ann Woolner

April 24 (Bloomberg) -- Of the 41 people who have taken guns to U.S.
schools and opened fire since 1996, 40 of them share one trait.

They were born with the Y chromosome.

Maleness is the only characteristic that is common to this group, with
race -- Caucasian -- coming in second. They are of different educational
levels and regions. They are low achievers and high achievers. Their
motives and mental states run the gamut. The youngest was 6. Another was
53.

Together, those 40 men and boys killed 94 people on campuses, plus four
more in the hours preceding their school shooting episodes. They have
wounded scores more and traumatized thousands of others.

I'm not saying boys are born killers. Only a miniscule fraction of them
grow up to open fire at school or anywhere else. And chemistry isn't
necessarily destiny.

And yet, whether sparked by jealousy, retribution, psychosis, insecurity
or hatred toward women, U.S. school shootings happen with regularity -- 36
in 11 years -- and all but one were committed by men or by boys.

Maleness matters in all kinds of killings. Eighty-eight percent of U.S.
homicides from 1976 to 2004 were committed by men, according to the most
recent Justice Department statistics. For serial killers, the percentage
rises to 93 percent.

Whatever you have heard about the so-called feminization of the American
male or about increasingly aggressive women, the lopsided nature of which
sex kills the most remains.

Widening Gap

``When it comes to the most serious form of aggression, murder, the gender
gap is actually wider now than it was a few years ago,'' says James Fox, a
Northeastern University criminal justice professor in Boston who has
written about killers.

I know. Most men channel aggression into perfectly acceptable activities.
They build companies, enforce laws, repair roads, play sports, advocate
causes.

But women manage to do those things, too. Yet when violence erupts,
chances are overwhelming the aggressor is a man.

``It's true about murder,'' Fox says. ``It's true about crime in general.''

So what is it about men, anyway?

A leading testosterone researcher, the late Georgia State University
Professor James M. Dabbs, found that the higher the testosterone level,
the more violent the person is likely to be.

Probable Troublemakers

Testing more than 4,000 veterans, for example, he found that the 10
percent with the most testosterone were the most probable troublemakers.
These were the guys likely to have misbehaved as schoolchildren, break the
law as adults, use drugs and alcohol, go AWOL from the Army and have 10 or
more sex partners in a year, Dabbs found.

He tested male and female inmates in separate research projects and found
that in both populations the most violent had the highest T-levels.

Child psychiatrist David Shaffer of Columbia University says it's not
clear from testosterone research whether the hormone itself sparks
aggression. It could be that, because those with more of it are larger and
more muscular, they find more success at physical aggression and therefore
engage in it more.

He says there are other biological reasons for the gender gap. Men are
more likely than women to lack metabolized serotonin, which is the
neurotransmitter that acts as a calming influence, says Shaffer, chief of
Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at Columbia University Medical Center in
New York.

Teen Suicides

Incarcerated marines showed a dearth of the stuff in one study, he says.
That was also what Shaffer found in his groundbreaking research into teen
suicides, which are five to seven times more likely to be committed by
males.

Boys have another natural factor that makes them more likely to turn to
aggression, he says. They are slower to learn verbal skills and tend to
grab what they want.

Beyond body chemistry, can't we assign some blame to American culture and
peer pressure?

Boys learn from other boys that being a man means being in control, says
Dick Bathrick, who founded Men Stopping Violence in 1982 in Atlanta.

``You've got to be in control at work. You've got to be in control at
home. You've got to be in control of your feelings,'' he says, according
to this popular but ``very distorted concept of masculinity.''

When losing a job, or being rebuffed romantically, or having a spouse
refuse to do what one says, men are more likely than women to become
violent to regain control, Bathrick says.

Drive to Dominate

The drive to overpower women showed up in several school shootings. Last
September in Bailey, Colorado, 53-year-old Duane Roger Morrison entered a
high school, took six girls hostage and sexually assaulted them. When
police showed up, he shot a 16- year-old girl dead before killing himself.

The following month, Carl Charles Roberts IV, 32, lined up girls at the
West Nickel Mines Amish School and shot 10 of them, ages 6 to 13, before
killing himself. Five of the girls died.

Seung Hui Cho's anger, like the shots he fired last week at Virginia Tech,
seems to have been indiscriminate. His rantings target women but also
accuse the rich and the world in general. It may mean much or nothing that
he previously stalked two female students, became suicidal when rebuffed
and launched his deadly spree last week by first shooting a young woman in
her dorm. Cho killed 32 students and teachers in all before killing
himself.

Groups such as Bathrick's have sprung up around the country to try to stop
men from hurting the women in their lives. The organization also works to
encourage non-violent men to challenge the misogyny and violence in
others, Bathrick says.

In Washington, Men of Strength clubs in high schools steer teenagers
toward healthy ideas of what manhood means, says Patrick Lemmon, executive
director of Men Can Stop Rape, which sponsors the clubs. Not to mention
the work of scout troops and boys' clubs.

No one claims an intervention of that sort could have stopped Cho, who may
well have been psychotic.

But given the gross overrepresentation of men among those who kill, rape,
molest and beat, you have to hope that more men become more outraged by
the damage others of their gender inflict.

(Ann Woolner is a Bloomberg news columnist. The opinions expressed are her own.)

To contact the writer of this column: Ann Woolner in Atlanta at
awoolner@bloomberg.net .

Last Updated: April 24, 2007 00:15 EDT

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Old 04-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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In article <willbrink-2404071409430001@192.168.2.156>,
willbrink@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:

<snipped for space>


> But given the gross overrepresentation of men among those who kill, rape,
> molest and beat, you have to hope that more men become more outraged by
> the damage others of their gender inflict.
>
> (Ann Woolner is a Bloomberg news columnist. The opinions expressed are her
> own.)
>
> To contact the writer of this column: Ann Woolner in Atlanta at
> awoolner@bloomberg.net .
>
> Last Updated: April 24, 2007 00:15 EDT
>
> --
> Will @ www.BrinkZone.com
>
> "It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural


Permission to re-post this to a couple of the gun lists?

Please? ;-)
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Don't ban guns, ban men!:-)

In article <omp_omelet-0B7E00.13153224042007@news.giganews.com>, Omelet
<omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <willbrink-2404071409430001@192.168.2.156>,
> willbrink@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
>
> <snipped for space>
>
>
> > But given the gross overrepresentation of men among those who kill, rape,
> > molest and beat, you have to hope that more men become more outraged by
> > the damage others of their gender inflict.
> >
> > (Ann Woolner is a Bloomberg news columnist. The opinions expressed are her
> > own.)
> >
> > To contact the writer of this column: Ann Woolner in Atlanta at
> > awoolner@bloomberg.net .
> >
> > Last Updated: April 24, 2007 00:15 EDT
> >
> > --
> > Will @ www.BrinkZone.com
> >
> > "It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

>
> Permission to re-post this to a couple of the gun lists?


As I didn't write it, you don't need my permission. Would be a funny
article if it was not so sad!

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Old 04-25-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Don't ban guns, ban men!:-)

In article <willbrink-2404071648360001@192.168.2.156>,
willbrink@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:

> In article <omp_omelet-0B7E00.13153224042007@news.giganews.com>, Omelet
> <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <willbrink-2404071409430001@192.168.2.156>,
> > willbrink@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
> >
> > <snipped for space>
> >
> >
> > > But given the gross overrepresentation of men among those who kill, rape,
> > > molest and beat, you have to hope that more men become more outraged by
> > > the damage others of their gender inflict.
> > >
> > > (Ann Woolner is a Bloomberg news columnist. The opinions expressed are
> > > her
> > > own.)
> > >
> > > To contact the writer of this column: Ann Woolner in Atlanta at
> > > awoolner@bloomberg.net .
> > >
> > > Last Updated: April 24, 2007 00:15 EDT
> > >
> > > --
> > > Will @ www.BrinkZone.com
> > >
> > > "It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

> >
> > Permission to re-post this to a couple of the gun lists?

>
> As I didn't write it, you don't need my permission. Would be a funny
> article if it was not so sad!
>
> --
> Will @ www.BrinkZone.com


Think about the things we usually laugh about...

I can peruse my humor files and see that this really is hilarious. ;-)

If we did not laugh at things involved in the human condition, we would
cry. IMHO, humor keeps us somewhat "sane"?
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:17 AM
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On Apr 26, 12:39 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <willbrink-2404071648360...@192.168.2.156>,
> willbr...@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <omp_omelet-0B7E00.13153224042...@news.giganews.com>, Omelet
> > <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > In article <willbrink-2404071409430...@192.168.2.156>,
> > > willbr...@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:

>
> > > <snipped for space>

>
> > > > But given the gross overrepresentation of men among those who kill, rape,
> > > > molest and beat, you have to hope that more men become more outraged by
> > > > the damage others of their gender inflict.

>
> > > > (Ann Woolner is a Bloomberg news columnist. The opinions expressed are
> > > > her
> > > > own.)

>
> > > > To contact the writer of this column: Ann Woolner in Atlanta at
> > > > awool...@bloomberg.net .

>
> > > > Last Updated: April 24, 2007 00:15 EDT

>
> > > > --
> > > > Will @www.BrinkZone.com

>
> > > > "It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

>
> > > Permission to re-post this to a couple of the gun lists?

>
> > As I didn't write it, you don't need my permission. Would be a funny
> > article if it was not so sad!

>
> > --
> > Will @www.BrinkZone.com

>
> Think about the things we usually laugh about...
>
> I can peruse my humor files and see that this really is hilarious. ;-)
>
> If we did not laugh at things involved in the human condition, we would
> cry. IMHO, humor keeps us somewhat "sane"?
> --
>

Were any of these mass murderers etc in a stable sexual relationship?
Mostly not - so really it is all womens fault

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Old 04-26-2007, 07:40 PM
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In article <1177567167.838825.316300@r3g2000prh.googlegroups. com>, cramerj
<cramerj58@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > --
> >

> Were any of these mass murderers etc in a stable sexual relationship?
> Mostly not - so really it is all womens fault


Perhaps every testosterone filled boy who can't get laid should be given
one of these:

http://www.realdoll.com/

I vote their parents should be able to write it off on their taxes as a
needed medical device for T filled frustrated teen boys...

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Old 04-26-2007, 07:40 PM
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In article <1177567167.838825.316300@r3g2000prh.googlegroups. com>,
cramerj <cramerj58@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Apr 26, 12:39 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <willbrink-2404071648360...@192.168.2.156>,
> > willbr...@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article <omp_omelet-0B7E00.13153224042...@news.giganews.com>, Omelet
> > > <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > > > In article <willbrink-2404071409430...@192.168.2.156>,
> > > > willbr...@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:

> >
> > > > <snipped for space>

> >
> > > > > But given the gross overrepresentation of men among those who kill,
> > > > > rape,
> > > > > molest and beat, you have to hope that more men become more outraged
> > > > > by
> > > > > the damage others of their gender inflict.

> >
> > > > > (Ann Woolner is a Bloomberg news columnist. The opinions expressed
> > > > > are
> > > > > her
> > > > > own.)

> >
> > > > > To contact the writer of this column: Ann Woolner in Atlanta at
> > > > > awool...@bloomberg.net .

> >
> > > > > Last Updated: April 24, 2007 00:15 EDT

> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Will @www.BrinkZone.com

> >
> > > > > "It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

> >
> > > > Permission to re-post this to a couple of the gun lists?

> >
> > > As I didn't write it, you don't need my permission. Would be a funny
> > > article if it was not so sad!

> >
> > > --
> > > Will @www.BrinkZone.com

> >
> > Think about the things we usually laugh about...
> >
> > I can peruse my humor files and see that this really is hilarious. ;-)
> >
> > If we did not laugh at things involved in the human condition, we would
> > cry. IMHO, humor keeps us somewhat "sane"?
> > --
> >

> Were any of these mass murderers etc in a stable sexual relationship?
> Mostly not - so really it is all womens fault


If you were bisexual, you would double your chances of getting laid on a
regular basis. ;-)

Now who's fault is it?
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:40 PM
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In article <willbrink-2604070934460001@192.168.2.156>,
willbrink@comcast.net (Will Brink) wrote:

> In article <1177567167.838825.316300@r3g2000prh.googlegroups. com>, cramerj
> <cramerj58@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > --
> > >

> > Were any of these mass murderers etc in a stable sexual relationship?
> > Mostly not - so really it is all womens fault

>
> Perhaps every testosterone filled boy who can't get laid should be given
> one of these:
>
> http://www.realdoll.com/
>
> I vote their parents should be able to write it off on their taxes as a
> needed medical device for T filled frustrated teen boys...
>
> --
> Will @ www.BrinkZone.com
>
> "It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural


ROFL!!!

I'd seen that site before.

What will they think of next???

http://tinyurl.com/3x8zon

Oh.

Nevermind...
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