Doomsday Clock - 5 minutes to Midnight

The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get much
closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at starbucks,
weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But all the while
the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren
live a full live? I very much doubt it.
And Curt's cubicle and wobbly stool and the janitor who stole his hat . . .
I guess we'll have other things to worry about. (btw Curt - the smudge on
Charles' Bentley . . .you know I could havr cleaned it myself for all the
times I reminded you!)

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:

> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
> much closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at
> starbucks, weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But
> all the while the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and
> grandchildren live a full live? I very much doubt it.

I just... got an idea.

I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then the
problem is solved, isnt it?

So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge craters?
And let certain people from a certain small Country create some canals,
dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.

Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!

--
Pete, The New & Improved Version

"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink

"Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" -- Will
Brink

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:43:29 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get much
>closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at starbucks,
>weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But all the while
>the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren
>live a full live? I very much doubt it.

They either will or they won't and as ever the optimist, they will
live long and happy lives much like the rest of us.

The doom mongers, who are mainly the media, have us all worried
fartless about the dreadful things that are always about to engulf us,
but the planet has been here a long time and I doubt we puny buggers
are about to do anything to change that.

My latest pet hate is the myth of global warming, with its associated
'carbon footprints', which the British government is about to use
cynically simply to extract more tax from us.

Range Rover drivers (as opposed to the spurious Bentley) are going to
be hit particularly hard.

>And Curt's cubicle and wobbly stool and the janitor who stole his hat . . .
>I guess we'll have other things to worry about. (btw Curt - the smudge on
>Charles' Bentley . . .you know I could havr cleaned it myself for all the
>times I reminded you!)
>

Your constant complaints about the abilities and integrity of The
Chairman will do nothing for his confidence. His recent silence bears
witness to the drain on his usual boundless enthusiasm.

Have a great weekend Oz - I'm having another quiet one! ;o)

TFIF!

"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3b81r2l26imcufqij5t08urftsjo8ebo4h@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:43:29 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>>much
>>closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at
>>starbucks,
>>weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But all the while
>>the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren
>>live a full live? I very much doubt it.
>
> They either will or they won't and as ever the optimist, they will
> live long and happy lives much like the rest of us.

I think the human race is doomed - how do you reconcile the fact that madmen
and hard core islamists now have their fingers on the 'button' with any
sanity about the use of these weapons? In the space of 2000 years we have
gone from bows and arrows and catapults to atomic weapons that can kill off
all of mankind in the blink of an eye. Now *that* is an achievement! Our
biggest industries are armaments and drugs. What does that say about we
humans? How can we go from generation to generation with the doomsday clock
ticking away and no strong leaders come along and change this apocalyptic
course we are on?
>
> The doom mongers, who are mainly the media, have us all worried
> fartless about the dreadful things that are always about to engulf us,
> but the planet has been here a long time and I doubt we puny buggers
> are about to do anything to change that.

There is a big difference now - we are in the age of nuclear proliferation
and we are at the mercy of madmen and ultra religious fruitcakes

>
> My latest pet hate is the myth of global warming, with its associated
> 'carbon footprints', which the British government is about to use
> cynically simply to extract more tax from us.

Couldn't care less about global warming - so we lose a few arctic bears and
some seaside communities
>
> Range Rover drivers (as opposed to the spurious Bentley) are going to
> be hit particularly hard.
>
>>And Curt's cubicle and wobbly stool and the janitor who stole his hat . .
>>.
>>I guess we'll have other things to worry about. (btw Curt - the smudge on
>>Charles' Bentley . . .you know I could havr cleaned it myself for all the
>>times I reminded you!)
>>
>
> Your constant complaints about the abilities and integrity of The
> Chairman will do nothing for his confidence. His recent silence bears
> witness to the drain on his usual boundless enthusiasm.

It's not me Charles. If the janitor stole your hat how boundless would you
be?

>
> Have a great weekend Oz - I'm having another quiet one! ;o)
>
Sorry about that - but then pigging out must have it's consequences

> TFIF!

Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>> much closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at
>> starbucks, weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But
>> all the while the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and
>> grandchildren live a full live? I very much doubt it.
>
> I just... got an idea.
>
> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then the
> problem is solved, isnt it?

Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not melt
now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to do with
industry, because there was none of it. So, in summary, all this
rumble about global warming caused by burning petrol is loads of bull.

> So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge craters?
> And let certain people from a certain small Country create some canals,
> dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.

Are you Dutch? You talk like Dutchman.

> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!

No. I'm against Middle East, because I need gasoline to be happy. My
bike can average above 10 liters per hundred km without trying much.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Dnia 2007-01-19 Charles napisa³(a):
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:43:29 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get much
>>closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at starbucks,
>>weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But all the while
>>the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren
>>live a full live? I very much doubt it.
>
> They either will or they won't and as ever the optimist, they will
> live long and happy lives much like the rest of us.

Oh, fuck. ;-(

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

"Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a)" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in
message news:45b0a41d$0$53424$dbd43001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>> much closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at
>> starbucks, weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But
>> all the while the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and
>> grandchildren live a full live? I very much doubt it.
>
> I just... got an idea.
>
> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then
> the problem is solved, isnt it?
>
> So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge craters?
> And let certain people from a certain small Country create some canals,
> dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.
>
> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!

Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative thinking!
We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up with water from
the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the crater - swimming
pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres . . . and wait just 10,000
years for the fallout to clear.

>
> --
> Pete, The New & Improved Version
>
> "Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
> Your turn dude" -- Will Brink
>
> "Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
> you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" --
> Will Brink
>

"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eoq8u0$1o9$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>
>>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>>> much closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at
>>> starbucks, weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But
>>> all the while the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and
>>> grandchildren live a full live? I very much doubt it.
>>
>> I just... got an idea.
>>
>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then
>> the
>> problem is solved, isnt it?
>
> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not melt
> now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to do with
> industry, because there was none of it. So, in summary, all this
> rumble about global warming caused by burning petrol is loads of bull.
>
>> So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge
>> craters?
>> And let certain people from a certain small Country create some canals,
>> dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.
>
> Are you Dutch? You talk like Dutchman.

After all this time you just figured out Pete is a Dutchman?

>
>> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!
>
> No. I'm against Middle East, because I need gasoline to be happy. My
> bike can average above 10 liters per hundred km without trying mu

>
> --
> Andrzej Rosa 1127R

"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> schreef:

>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then
>> the
>> problem is solved, isnt it?

> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not melt
> now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to do with
> industry, because there was none of it. So, in summary, all this
> rumble about global warming caused by burning petrol is loads of bull.

Oh, i dont believe that humans caused it!

I think its just a normal fluctuation. And the problem can be solved.

>> So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge
>> craters?
>> And let certain people from a certain small Country create some canals,
>> dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.

> Are you Dutch? You talk like Dutchman.

You didnt knew that ?!?!?

>> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!

> No. I'm against Middle East, because I need gasoline to be happy. My
> bike can average above 10 liters per hundred km without trying much.

Okay.
Are there other places we can nuke?

--
Pete, The New & Improved Version

"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink

"Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" -- Will
Brink

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:

>> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!

> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative thinking!
> We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up with water from
> the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the crater - swimming
> pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres . . . and wait just
> 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.

Fallout?

--
Pete, The New & Improved Version

"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink

"Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" -- Will
Brink

"Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a)" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in
message news:45b0accf$0$75574$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>>> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!
>
>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up with
>> water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the
>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres . . .
>> and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.
>
> Fallout?

radioactive shit


>
> --
> Pete, The New & Improved Version
>
> "Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
> Your turn dude" -- Will Brink
>
> "Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
> you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" --
> Will Brink
>

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:

>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up
>>> with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the
>>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres . .
>>> . and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.

>> Fallout?

> radioactive shit

Is that bad?

--
Pete, The New & Improved Version

"Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
Your turn dude" -- Will Brink

"Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" -- Will
Brink

"Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a)" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in
message news:45b0af7a$0$60326$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up
>>>> with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the
>>>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres . .
>>>> . and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.
>
>>> Fallout?
>
>> radioactive shit
>
> Is that bad?

Only if you don't want to die a horrible death

>
> --
> Pete, The New & Improved Version
>
> "Take your own advice: killfile. I took your advice on that subject BTW.
> Your turn dude" -- Will Brink
>
> "Problem is, I still see his/their posts 'cause
> you respond to them, and that throws the balance of the universe of" --
> Will Brink
>

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa?(a):
>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>
>>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>>> much closer.
>>
>> I just... got an idea.
>>
>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then the
>> problem is solved, isnt it?
>
> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not melt
> now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to do with
> industry, because there was none of it.

I think the rise in sea level is mostly to do with the thermal expansion
of the water already in the oceans, not addition of new water.

Ah yes, here's what the boffins had to say:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lev...Change_results

> So, in summary, all this rumble about global warming caused by burning
> petrol is loads of bull.

You know, the high standard of scientific discussion is one of the things
i love about this group.

tom

--
Just because Congresspeople do it, doesn't mean it's right. -- Ian York

"Tom Anderson" <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.62.0701191155420.30056@urchin.eart h.li...
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>
>> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa?(a):
>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>>
>>>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>>>> much closer.
>>>
>>> I just... got an idea.
>>>
>>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then
>>> the
>>> problem is solved, isnt it?
>>
>> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not melt
>> now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to do with
>> industry, because there was none of it.
>
> I think the rise in sea level is mostly to do with the thermal expansion
> of the water already in the oceans, not addition of new water.
>
> Ah yes, here's what the boffins had to say:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lev...Change_results
>
>> So, in summary, all this rumble about global warming caused by burning
>> petrol is loads of bull.
>
> You know, the high standard of scientific discussion is one of the things
> i love about this group.

The sarcasm is what I love most

>
> tom
>
> --
> Just because Congresspeople do it, doesn't mean it's right. -- Ian York

Dnia 2007-01-19 Tom Anderson napisa³(a):
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>
>> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa?(a):
>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>>
>>>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>>>> much closer.
>>>
>>> I just... got an idea.
>>>
>>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then the
>>> problem is solved, isnt it?
>>
>> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not melt
>> now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to do with
>> industry, because there was none of it.
>
> I think the rise in sea level is mostly to do with the thermal expansion
> of the water already in the oceans, not addition of new water.
>
> Ah yes, here's what the boffins had to say:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lev...Change_results

They say it's going to take ages.

>> So, in summary, all this rumble about global warming caused by burning
>> petrol is loads of bull.
>
> You know, the high standard of scientific discussion is one of the things
> i love about this group.

Rumble in the media is not exactly science, is it?

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, David wrote:

> "Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:3b81r2l26imcufqij5t08urftsjo8ebo4h@4ax.com...
>
>> They either will or they won't and as ever the optimist, they will live
>> long and happy lives much like the rest of us.
>
> Our biggest industries are armaments and drugs. What does that say about
> we humans?

Actually, i think financial services is quite a lot bigger than either.
Now that *really* says something.

> How can we go from generation to generation with the doomsday clock
> ticking away and no strong leaders come along and change this
> apocalyptic course we are on?

I would say strong leaders is one of the biggest problems we've had to
deal with, actually!

>> My latest pet hate is the myth of global warming, with its associated
>> 'carbon footprints', which the British government is about to use
>> cynically simply to extract more tax from us.
>
> Couldn't care less about global warming - so we lose a few arctic bears
> and some seaside communities

The inhabitants of London, New York, Shanghai, Bombay, Tokyo and a few
other seaside communities might differ there. But yes, sod the polar
bears.

tom

PS Super fun global flooding map thing:

http://flood.firetree.net/

--
Just because Congresspeople do it, doesn't mean it's right. -- Ian York

Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
>>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go, then
>>> the
>>> problem is solved, isnt it?
>
>> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not melt
>> now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to do with
>> industry, because there was none of it. So, in summary, all this
>> rumble about global warming caused by burning petrol is loads of bull.
>
> Oh, i dont believe that humans caused it!
>
> I think its just a normal fluctuation. And the problem can be solved.

Sure. Powderising big part of any continent should create nuclear
winter, which would automatically result in global cooling and lowering
of sea levels. I'm simply not sure if I care about Nauru so much to be
willing to freeze for it. ;-)

>>> So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge
>>> craters?
>>> And let certain people from a certain small Country create some canals,
>>> dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.
>
>> Are you Dutch? You talk like Dutchman.
>
> You didnt knew that ?!?!?

I wasn't perfectly sure, because you didn't incorporated any windmills
into your system.

>>> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!
>
>> No. I'm against Middle East, because I need gasoline to be happy. My
>> bike can average above 10 liters per hundred km without trying much.
>
> Okay.
> Are there other places we can nuke?

SoCal. They are responsible for all this panic, so they should pay for
it!

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up
>>>> with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the
>>>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres . .
>>>> . and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.
>
>>> Fallout?
>
>> radioactive shit
>
> Is that bad?

Not much. There are photos of Hiroshima after they were thought a
lesson, and you can't make photos in radioactive places.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

"Tom Anderson" <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.62.0701191204410.30056@urchin.eart h.li...
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, David wrote:
>
>> "Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:3b81r2l26imcufqij5t08urftsjo8ebo4h@4ax.com...
>>
>>> They either will or they won't and as ever the optimist, they will live
>>> long and happy lives much like the rest of us.
>>
>> Our biggest industries are armaments and drugs. What does that say about
>> we humans?
>
> Actually, i think financial services is quite a lot bigger than either.
> Now that *really* says something.

That wouldn't surprise me

>
>> How can we go from generation to generation with the doomsday clock
>> ticking away and no strong leaders come along and change this apocalyptic
>> course we are on?
>
> I would say strong leaders is one of the biggest problems we've had to
> deal with, actually!

Maybe 'strong' is not the right word - "visionary" leaders maybe

>
>>> My latest pet hate is the myth of global warming, with its associated
>>> 'carbon footprints', which the British government is about to use
>>> cynically simply to extract more tax from us.
>>
>> Couldn't care less about global warming - so we lose a few arctic bears
>> and some seaside communities
>
> The inhabitants of London, New York, Shanghai, Bombay, Tokyo and a few
> other seaside communities might differ there. But yes, sod the polar
> bears.
>

At least we'll have cheap waterfront land at last

> tom
>
> PS Super fun global flooding map thing:
>
> http://flood.firetree.net/
>
> --
> Just because Congresspeople do it, doesn't mean it's right. -- Ian York

"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eoqdv6$nll$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>
>>>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up
>>>>> with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the
>>>>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres .
>>>>> .
>>>>> . and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.
>>
>>>> Fallout?
>>
>>> radioactive shit
>>
>> Is that bad?
>
> Not much. There are photos of Hiroshima after they were thought a
> lesson, and you can't make photos in radioactive places.

I think you may well be right Andrzej, a little bit of radioactivity
probably has therapeutic benefits. Like herbal tea

>
> --
> Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Dnia 2007-01-19 David napisa³(a):
>
> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eoqdv6$nll$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
>> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>>
>>>>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>>>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up
>>>>>> with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the
>>>>>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> . and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.
>>>
>>>>> Fallout?
>>>
>>>> radioactive shit
>>>
>>> Is that bad?
>>
>> Not much. There are photos of Hiroshima after they were thought a
>> lesson, and you can't make photos in radioactive places.
>
> I think you may well be right Andrzej, a little bit of radioactivity
> probably has therapeutic benefits. Like herbal tea

I've seen data which would support this conclusion. I mean about
positive effects of radioactivity when absorbed in tolerable doses, not
about similarities between gamma radiation and herbal tea. ;-)

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eoqf0c$s9e$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> Dnia 2007-01-19 David napisa³(a):
>>
>> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eoqdv6$nll$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
>>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>>>>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up
>>>>>>> with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> . and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.
>>>>
>>>>>> Fallout?
>>>>
>>>>> radioactive shit
>>>>
>>>> Is that bad?
>>>
>>> Not much. There are photos of Hiroshima after they were thought a
>>> lesson, and you can't make photos in radioactive places.
>>
>> I think you may well be right Andrzej, a little bit of radioactivity
>> probably has therapeutic benefits. Like herbal tea
>
> I've seen data which would support this conclusion. I mean about
> positive effects of radioactivity when absorbed in tolerable doses, not
> about similarities between gamma radiation and herbal tea. ;-)
>

There are some reference in google to positive effects of gamma rays - will
look it up in the morning - (getting past my bedtime here)

> --
> Andrzej Rosa 1127R

In news:45b0ab15$0$96609$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl,
Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> typed:
> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
>>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go,
>>> then the
>>> problem is solved, isnt it?
>
>> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not
>> melt now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to
>> do with industry, because there was none of it. So, in summary, all
>> this rumble about global warming caused by burning petrol is loads
>> of bull.
>
> Oh, i dont believe that humans caused it!
>
> I think its just a normal fluctuation. And the problem can be solved.
>
>>> So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge
>>> craters?
>>> And let certain people from a certain small Country create some
>>> canals, dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.
>
>> Are you Dutch? You talk like Dutchman.
>
> You didnt knew that ?!?!?
>
>>> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!
>
>> No. I'm against Middle East, because I need gasoline to be happy. My
>> bike can average above 10 liters per hundred km without trying
>> much.
>
> Okay.
> Are there other places we can nuke?

Can you take London ???

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:12:16 +0000 (UTC), Andrzej Rosa
<bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Dnia 2007-01-19 Charles napisa³(a):
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:43:29 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get much
>>>closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at starbucks,
>>>weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But all the while
>>>the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren
>>>live a full live? I very much doubt it.
>>
>> They either will or they won't and as ever the optimist, they will
>> live long and happy lives much like the rest of us.
>
>Oh, fuck. ;-(

All to look forward to Andrzej!

Have a great weekend my friend - I'm having a rest! ;o)

TFIF!

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:13:32 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:3b81r2l26imcufqij5t08urftsjo8ebo4h@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:43:29 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>>>much
>>>closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things - coffee at
>>>starbucks,
>>>weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we look buffed? But all the while
>>>the world is moving to annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren
>>>live a full live? I very much doubt it.
>>
>> They either will or they won't and as ever the optimist, they will
>> live long and happy lives much like the rest of us.
>
>I think the human race is doomed - how do you reconcile the fact that madmen
>and hard core islamists now have their fingers on the 'button' with any
>sanity about the use of these weapons? In the space of 2000 years we have
>gone from bows and arrows and catapults to atomic weapons that can kill off
>all of mankind in the blink of an eye. Now *that* is an achievement! Our
>biggest industries are armaments and drugs. What does that say about we
>humans? How can we go from generation to generation with the doomsday clock
>ticking away and no strong leaders come along and change this apocalyptic
>course we are on?
>>
>> The doom mongers, who are mainly the media, have us all worried
>> fartless about the dreadful things that are always about to engulf us,
>> but the planet has been here a long time and I doubt we puny buggers
>> are about to do anything to change that.
>
>There is a big difference now - we are in the age of nuclear proliferation
>and we are at the mercy of madmen and ultra religious fruitcakes

They can't possibly want the extinction of all human life, as without
life there is no pathway to their paradise.

>
>>
>> My latest pet hate is the myth of global warming, with its associated
>> 'carbon footprints', which the British government is about to use
>> cynically simply to extract more tax from us.
>
>Couldn't care less about global warming - so we lose a few arctic bears and
>some seaside communities
>>
>> Range Rover drivers (as opposed to the spurious Bentley) are going to
>> be hit particularly hard.
>>
>>>And Curt's cubicle and wobbly stool and the janitor who stole his hat . .
>>>.
>>>I guess we'll have other things to worry about. (btw Curt - the smudge on
>>>Charles' Bentley . . .you know I could havr cleaned it myself for all the
>>>times I reminded you!)
>>>
>>
>> Your constant complaints about the abilities and integrity of The
>> Chairman will do nothing for his confidence. His recent silence bears
>> witness to the drain on his usual boundless enthusiasm.
>
>It's not me Charles. If the janitor stole your hat how boundless would you
>be?

Endlessly!

>
>>
>> Have a great weekend Oz - I'm having another quiet one! ;o)
>>
>Sorry about that - but then pigging out must have it's consequences

You make a good point to which I make no excuses. As I said to the
Shute man, "as ye sow, so shall even Charles reap" - or words to that
effect.

HAGW!

TFIF!

Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa³(a):
>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't
>>> get much closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things -
>>> coffee at starbucks, weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we
>>> look buffed? But all the while the world is moving to
>>> annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren live a full
>>> live? I very much doubt it.
>>
>> I just... got an idea.
>>
>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go,
>> then the problem is solved, isnt it?
>
> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not
> melt now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to
> do with industry, because there was none of it. So, in summary, all
> this rumble about global warming caused by burning petrol is loads
> of bull.

My Polish acquaintance from the gym said: "They're scientists, right,
so what's up with all the whining? They should instead work on
inventing a new planet to destroy!"

Besides, it's not really a clock unless you want to go into
relativistic obscurities again, because the hands can move either
forth or back. It's more of a thermostat control handle, and the
current level is set on "defrost".

>> So what if we... nuke certain places at the globe and create huge craters?
>> And let certain people from a certain small Country create some canals,
>> dykes, dams and bridges? To contol/manage the water.
>
> Are you Dutch? You talk like Dutchman.

Pete is a Pole, gone international. That's why he is also known as
The Interpol Pete. He is WAY too skilled in spotting a Slavo-Mongolian
mug.

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, David wrote:

> "Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a)" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in
> message news:45b0accf$0$75574$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl...
>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>
>>>> Places like, for instance... the Middle East ?!?!?!
>>>
>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it up
>>> with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort around the
>>> crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants, nightclubs, theatres . .
>>> . and wait just 10,000 years for the fallout to clear.
>>
>> Fallout?
>
> radioactive shit

Is that what you get after eating at Itsu?

(NB this is an Alexander Litvinenko joke)

tom

--
One of the principal objects of theoretical research in my department
of knowledge is to find the point of view from which the subject appears
in its greatest simplicity. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> Dnia 2007-01-19 David napisa?(a):
>>
>> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eoqdv6$nll$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa?(a):
>>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice Pete - good fresh ideas . . . God knows we need creative
>>>>>>> thinking! We nuke the Middle East - create a huge crater -fill it
>>>>>>> up with water from the Arctic - build an amazing 7 star resort
>>>>>>> around the crater - swimming pools, rooftop restaurants,
>>>>>>> nightclubs, theatres . . . and wait just 10,000 years for the
>>>>>>> fallout to clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fallout?
>>>>>
>>>>> radioactive shit
>>>>
>>>> Is that bad?
>>>
>>> Not much. There are photos of Hiroshima after they were thought a
>>> lesson, and you can't make photos in radioactive places.
>>
>> I think you may well be right Andrzej, a little bit of radioactivity
>> probably has therapeutic benefits. Like herbal tea
>
> I've seen data which would support this conclusion. I mean about
> positive effects of radioactivity when absorbed in tolerable doses, not
> about similarities between gamma radiation and herbal tea. ;-)

Am looking forward to the Grant Morrison reboot of The Incredible Hulk
where he gets his powers in a freak tea-blending accident ...

tom

--
One of the principal objects of theoretical research in my department
of knowledge is to find the point of view from which the subject appears
in its greatest simplicity. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, DZ wrote:

> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa?(a):
>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't
>>>> get much closer. Does anyone care? We all do the usual things -
>>>> coffee at starbucks, weekend bbqs, worry about our weight, do we
>>>> look buffed? But all the while the world is moving to
>>>> annihilation. Will our children and grandchildren live a full
>>>> live? I very much doubt it.
>>>
>>> I just... got an idea.
>>>
>>> I mean, if the excess water from the polar caps has a place to go,
>>> then the problem is solved, isnt it?
>>
>> Well, Antarctica didn't melt for millions of years so it will not
>> melt now either. Greenland did melt at times, but it had nothing to
>> do with industry, because there was none of it. So, in summary, all
>> this rumble about global warming caused by burning petrol is loads
>> of bull.
>
> My Polish acquaintance from the gym said: "They're scientists, right,
> so what's up with all the whining? They should instead work on
> inventing a new planet to destroy!"
>
> Besides, it's not really a clock unless you want to go into
> relativistic obscurities again, because the hands can move either
> forth or back. It's more of a thermostat control handle, and the
> current level is set on "defrost".

I'd say it's more of a countdown timer, like on an
underground/subway/metro platform.

tom

--
One of the principal objects of theoretical research in my department
of knowledge is to find the point of view from which the subject appears
in its greatest simplicity. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> Dnia 2007-01-19 Tom Anderson napisa?(a):
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>>
>>> Dnia 2007-01-19 Pete (New & Improved, Version 4.08a) napisa?(a):
>>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>>>>
>>>>> The clock has just moved 2 minutes more toward midnight - it can't get
>>>>> much closer.
>>>>
>>>> I just... got an idea.
>>>>
>>>>