Eating before morning training

#1 08-15-2007, 11:08 PM

hello all,

i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

TIA

#2 08-15-2007, 11:08 PM

On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>
> TIA

Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.

Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

#3 08-16-2007, 04:22 AM

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, philc wrote:

> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting up
> and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between waking
> and starting training.

Don't. Eat a good, starchy meal the previous evening, then drink a sugary
sports drink on your way to the gym and while you work out. You don't have
time to digest a meaningful quantity of real food on the morning.

> i am mixing aerobic training and light weights, and part of my goal is
> weight loss.

Hmm.

Good luck!

tom

--
They didn't have any answers - they just wanted weed and entitlement.

#4 08-16-2007, 04:22 AM

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:09:01 +0000, philc wrote:

> hello all,
>
> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>
> TIA

That may not be enough time between the meal and the work out. Consider
eating after the work out. Something with plenty of protein. Protein
shakes can make decent breakfast. If You are worried about Your blood
sugar being low in the morning, have a small glass of orange juice or a
sports drink before You leave for the gym.

#5 08-16-2007, 08:47 AM

philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.

You should work out on an empty stomach only if fat loss is your only
goal. In which case, try taking 200 mg caffeine when you wake up and
do some vigorous cardio, maybe including intervals, at the gym, then
go home and eat. Don't do this if you're not going to eat afterwards.

For muscle gain, do not work out on an empty stomach.

David

#6 08-16-2007, 08:47 AM

On Aug 16, 9:04 am, David Cohen <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote:
> philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > hello all,
>
> > i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> > thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> > food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> > up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> > waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> > weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>
> You should work out on an empty stomach only if fat loss is your only
> goal. In which case, try taking 200 mg caffeine when you wake up and
> do some vigorous cardio, maybe including intervals, at the gym, then
> go home and eat. Don't do this if you're not going to eat afterwards.
>
> For muscle gain, do not work out on an empty stomach.
>
> David

Hi
I m ritu plz tell me whats a health food u eat & which type
exerssize i m loos the weight. plz send my email id is
s.sumita.arora@gmail.com

thanx
ritu

#7 08-16-2007, 08:47 AM

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hello all,
>>
>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>>
>> TIA
>
>
>
> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>
> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
>

I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
more pieces of whole wheat toast.

Bob

#8 08-16-2007, 09:02 PM

On Aug 16, 1:53 am, "sycochkn" <sycoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
> glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
> more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>
> Bob

This sounds good, too, but it might be better if the toast is white
bread (high-glycemic index for fast digestion and absorption). The
Vitamin C in o.j. should replenish that lost through sweat. Two more
pieces of toast -- carbs -- afterwards help restore muscle glycogen.

You should probably still get some (more) protein in there, though,
even though you sound like you're "only" a runner.

#9 08-16-2007, 09:02 PM

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 16, 1:53 am, "sycochkn" <sycoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
>> glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
>> more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> This sounds good, too, but it might be better if the toast is white
> bread (high-glycemic index for fast digestion and absorption). The
> Vitamin C in o.j. should replenish that lost through sweat. Two more
> pieces of toast -- carbs -- afterwards help restore muscle glycogen.
>
> You should probably still get some (more) protein in there, though,
> even though you sound like you're "only" a runner.
>

You have the lactose in the milk and the sucrose in the juice. I do not eat
white bread. Actually I am a walker working on endurance and the moment.
Next month I start working on speed. I do about 4 miles every other day.

Bob

#10 08-16-2007, 09:02 PM

On Aug 15, 4:02 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hello all,
>
> > i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> > thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> > food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> > up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> > waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> > weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>
> > TIA
>
> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>
> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
failure for others.

Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).

So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
getting the run in.

#11 08-17-2007, 05:14 PM

On Aug 16, 1:36 pm, johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>
> Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
> failure for others.

True -- but while that's an important principle to keep in mind, in
the meantime we deal with the probability that what works for many
should work for...many!

> Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
> do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
> on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).

And I'm okay either way...whether on a full stomach in Army basic
training or nothing at all on the occasional morning pleasure-jog, I
may be slower but I've never been incapacitated by the presence of
food.

Then again, I very rarely run more than three miles!

> So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
> getting the run in.

It's fascinating to me, how differently runners and weight-lifters
train...in the Army, I never realized there was a difference...I had
an "innocent," "holistic" view of physical fitness then....

#12 08-17-2007, 05:14 PM

On Aug 16, 9:56 am, "sycochkn" <sycoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> You have the lactose in the milk and the sucrose in the juice. I do not eat
> white bread. Actually I am a walker working on endurance and the moment.
> Next month I start working on speed. I do about 4 miles every other day.
>
> Bob

Ah, a walker!

Yes, I'd agree that milk, juice, and some toast would be adequate for
you! =)

#13 08-18-2007, 12:53 AM

David Cohen <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
....

Do you check this email? I blogged there some low-life spam awhile
ago.

#14 08-18-2007, 12:53 AM

On Aug 17, 10:55 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 16, 1:36 pm, johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> > Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
> > failure for others.
>
> True -- but while that's an important principle to keep in mind, in
> the meantime we deal with the probability that what works for many
> should work for...many!

With that premise then many of the serious runners that I know don't
really want to eat much ( if anything ) if they are going to run
"early".

Most ( well many ) of us really have enough calories in our system
from the day before to deal well with some exercise.

If you are a diabetic or prone to blood sugar level problems etc of
course that's a whole different situation probably.

>
> > Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
> > do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
> > on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).
>
> And I'm okay either way...whether on a full stomach in Army basic
> training or nothing at all on the occasional morning pleasure-jog, I
> may be slower but I've never been incapacitated by the presence of
> food.
>
> Then again, I very rarely run more than three miles!

I rarely run less than 7 or 8.

>
> > So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
> > getting the run in.
>
> It's fascinating to me, how differently runners and weight-lifters
> train...in the Army, I never realized there was a difference...I had
> an "innocent," "holistic" view of physical fitness then....

I wasn't aware that the Army provided any significant relevant
approach toward obtaining holistic views of training.

I was more under the impression that you picked up a backpack, a
rifle, put on your boots and started running until they told you that
you could stop.

#15 08-18-2007, 12:53 AM

On Aug 17, 11:58 am, DZ wrote:
> David Cohen <sammies...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you check this email? I blogged there some low-life spam awhile
> ago.

I do. I did not get it. Maybe the spam filter hates you. No, you are
not paranoid if the spam filter actually hates you.

Try again. I'll check the spam folder before deleting. Also send it to
my soon-to-be extinct earthlink email addy sammiesdad@earthlink.net

David

#16 08-18-2007, 08:16 AM

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> "Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hello all,
>>>
>>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
>>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
>>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
>>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
>>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
>>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>>
>> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
>>
>
> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
> glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
> more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>
> Bob
>

I hope that you are joking.

-- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair, modest,
submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires attains moral
designations and honors" - Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

#17 08-18-2007, 06:13 PM

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>>> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hello all,
>>>>
>>>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
>>>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
>>>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
>>>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
>>>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
>>>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>>>
>>> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
>>>
>>
>> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
>> glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
>> more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> I hope that you are joking.
>

me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
yesterdays food. Butter is better

>
> -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
> and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
> modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
> attains moral designations and honors" -
> Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>

#18 08-18-2007, 06:13 PM

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>>>> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
>>>>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
>>>>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
>>>>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
>>>>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
>>>>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>>>>
>>>> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
>>> glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat 2
>>> more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>
>> I hope that you are joking.
>>
>
> me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
> yesterdays food. Butter is better
>
>>
>> -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
>> and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
>> modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
>> attains moral designations and honors" -
>> Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>>
>
>

There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
Made with canola oil.

Bob

#19 08-18-2007, 06:13 PM

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>>>>> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
>>>>>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
>>>>>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
>>>>>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
>>>>>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
>>>> glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat
>>>> 2 more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>
>>> I hope that you are joking.
>>>
>>
>> me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
>> yesterdays food. Butter is better
>>
>>>
>>> -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
>>> and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
>>> modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
>>> attains moral designations and honors" -
>>> Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>
> There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
> Made with canola oil.

Yes you are right - the ones made with canola oil have no transfats

>
> Bob
>

#20 08-18-2007, 06:13 PM

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>>>>> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
>>>>>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
>>>>>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
>>>>>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
>>>>>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine, 1
>>>> glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I eat
>>>> 2 more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>
>>> I hope that you are joking.
>>>
>>
>> me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
>> yesterdays food. Butter is better
>>
>>>
>>> -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
>>> and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
>>> modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
>>> attains moral designations and honors" -
>>> Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>
> There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
> Made with canola oil.

There is a debate about canola oil as well - I would check into it
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcanola3.htm

>
> Bob
>

#21 08-18-2007, 06:13 PM

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>>>>>> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
>>>>>>> food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
>>>>>>> waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
>>>>>>> weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do 2 pieces of whole wheat toast with low saturated fat margarine,
>>>>> 1 glass low fat milk and 1 glass of orange juice. After my workout I
>>>>> eat 2 more pieces of whole wheat toast.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you are joking.
>>>>
>>>
>>> me too. low fat margarine is loaded with trans fats - margarine is
>>> yesterdays food. Butter is better
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd
>>>> and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair,
>>>> modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires
>>>> attains moral designations and honors" -
>>>> Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
>> Made with canola oil.
>
> There is a debate about canola oil as well - I would check into it
> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcanola3.htm
>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
>
I have chosen canola and extra virgin olive oil for cooking and dressings
because the have the higest non saturated vs saturated fat ratio. I very
seldom fry foods.

Bob

#22 08-20-2007, 08:23 PM

On Aug 17, 6:35 pm, johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>
> With that premise then many of the serious runners that I know don't
> really want to eat much ( if anything ) if they are going to run
> "early".
>
> Most ( well many ) of us really have enough calories in our system
> from the day before to deal well with some exercise.

Indeed -- you runners can have an almost diametrically opposite
training program than weight-lifters and bodybuilders!

> I rarely run less than 7 or 8.

Damn, I haven't ran one of those in years! Those are fun, yes. I
wish they don't interfere with strength and mass gains, though, 'cause
I'm much more into weight-lifting nowadays, and prolonged cardio is
supposed to sap into that.

> I wasn't aware that the Army provided any significant relevant
> approach toward obtaining holistic views of training.

They don't exactly hold classes on it, but it does inform, at the
doctrinal level, their P.T. program.

What's weird is that they still do sit-ups, unlike the Marines and Air
Force -- yes, Air Force -- who have gone over to crunches.

> I was more under the impression that you picked up a backpack, a
> rifle, put on your boots and started running until they told you that
> you could stop.

That, too. =)

#23 08-20-2007, 08:23 PM

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187626973.874248.132420@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> On Aug 17, 6:35 pm, johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> I rarely run less than 7 or 8.
>
> Damn, I haven't ran one of those in years!

Obviously.

#24 09-02-2007, 05:59 AM

>> There are no transfats in the stuff I use. most poly and monounsaturated.
>> Made with canola oil.
>
> Yes you are right - the ones made with canola oil have no transfats
>

How about olive oil? There's a margarine I prefer that's made from that.
Disclaimer: total noob who's just been cycle commuting to work and wants to
burn off the belly.

#25 09-02-2007, 05:59 AM

On Aug 15, 4:02 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hello all,
>
> > i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> > thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> > food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> > up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> > waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> > weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>
> > TIA
>
> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>

BS! Wake up to one cup of coffee, two pieces of buttered cornbread, an
hour later hit the road with a glass of gatorade in you. Nothing else
needed!

#26 09-02-2007, 04:14 PM

On Aug 17, 10:55 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 16, 1:36 pm, johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > Everyone's different and what works for some people will be a complete
> > failure for others.
>
> True -- but while that's an important principle to keep in mind, in
> the meantime we deal with the probability that what works for many
> should work for...many!
>
> > Personally I never eat anything before I run in the morning. I always
> > do an hour of running ( somewhere between 7 1/2 and 9 miles depending
> > on if I am just dogging it or feeling relatively sharp ).
>
> And I'm okay either way...whether on a full stomach in Army basic
> training or nothing at all on the occasional morning pleasure-jog, I
> may be slower but I've never been incapacitated by the presence of
> food.
>
> Then again, I very rarely run more than three miles!
>
> > So a strong cup of cofee is it for me. Some breakfast only after
> > getting the run in.
>
> It's fascinating to me, how differently runners and weight-lifters
> train...in the Army, I never realized there was a difference...I had
> an "innocent," "holistic" view of physical fitness then....

please reply me anything, as soon as you can.......i'm a new
user....just testing.....

#27 09-02-2007, 04:14 PM

On Aug 16, 4:02 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hello all,
>
> > i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> > thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> > food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> > up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> > waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> > weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>
> > TIA
>
> Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>
> Check out the book "Nutrient Timing" for details.

where to get the book?
i interested......reply me soon....

#28 09-02-2007, 04:14 PM

On Sep 2, 11:35 am, TBRallamericanh...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Aug 15, 4:02 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 15, 3:09 pm, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > hello all,
>
> > > i am starting training again after a year off, and want to train first
> > > thing in the morning before work. problem i have is eating the right
> > > food before. what do recommend i eat before the gym? i intend getting
> > > up and going straight to the gym, so have say 15-30 minutes between
> > > waking and starting training. i am mixing aerobic training and light
> > > weights, and part of my goal is weight loss.
>
> > > TIA
>
> > Do a quick whey protein drink with a bit of table sugar.
>
> BS! Wake up to one cup of coffee, two pieces of buttered cornbread, an
> hour later hit the road with a glass of gatorade in you. Nothing else
> needed!

>please reply me.......

#29 09-02-2007, 04:14 PM

On Aug 21, 2:09 am, "jcderkoeing" <jcderkoe...@ibm.com> wrote:
> "Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1187626973.874248.132420@r29g2000hsg.g ooglegroups.com...
>
> > On Aug 17, 6:35 pm, johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> >> I rarely run less than 7 or 8.
>
> > Damn, I haven't ran one of those in years!
>
> Obviously.

>relax.......