Ephedrine - expected results ???

As I understand an ECA stack is pretty much the only thing that works
at all....

Am I right in saying Ephedrine works because its a thermogenic and
this raises your base metabolic rate?

How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?

Are there studies proving this?

Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or start out smaller first? Does
adding caffeine make a difference as well?

<BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> As I understand an ECA stack is pretty much the only thing that works
> at all....
>
> Am I right in saying Ephedrine works because its a thermogenic and
> this raises your base metabolic rate?
>
> How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
> I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>
> Are there studies proving this?
>
> Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or start out smaller first? Does
> adding caffeine make a difference as well?

Google

ECA stack

and find tons to read on this subject.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

<BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174663722.404741.34940@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> As I understand an ECA stack is pretty much the only thing that works
> at all....
>
> Am I right in saying Ephedrine works because its a thermogenic and
> this raises your base metabolic rate?
>
> How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
> I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>
> Are there studies proving this?
>
> Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or start out smaller first? Does
> adding caffeine make a difference as well?
>

Have you ever tried just dieting and working out??



-- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and the fair, modest,
submissive and conforming mentality, the mediocrity of desires attains moral
designations and honors" - Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote
> <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote
>> As I understand an ECA stack is pretty much the only thing that works
>> at all....
>>
>> Am I right in saying Ephedrine works because its a thermogenic and
>> this raises your base metabolic rate?
>>
>> How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
>> I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>>
>> Are there studies proving this?
>>
>> Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or start out smaller first? Does
>> adding caffeine make a difference as well?
>>
> Have you ever tried just dieting and working out??

"Just Dieting And Working Out"? Is that available at Netrition.com? Can I
buy it in bulk? Will it make my dick shrink?

David
David

Cohen wrote:
> "Hard Bop Drums" wrote
> > BertieBigBol...@gmail wrote
[...]

> >> <snip> Typically, how many extra
> >> calories would I burn by taking
> >> 30Mg Ephedrine? <snip>
> >> Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or
> >> start out smaller first? <snip>
>
> > Have you ever tried just dieting and
> > working out??
>
> "Just Dieting And Working Out"? Is that
> available at Netrition.com? Can I buy it
> in bulk? <snip>

And is there a free DVD involved?

--
Curt

On 24 Mar, 01:55, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
> <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1174663722.404741.34940@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > As I understand an ECA stack is pretty much the only thing that works
> > at all....
>
> > Am I right in saying Ephedrine works because its a thermogenic and
> > this raises your base metabolic rate?
>
> > How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
> > I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>
> > Are there studies proving this?
>
> > Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or start out smaller first? Does
> > adding caffeine make a difference as well?
>
> Have you ever tried just dieting and working out??
>

Its amazing on usenet the number of people who will waste their time
giving advice rather than answer the question....

Did I ask - whats the best way to lose weight - no I did not....

If you dont know the answer to my question or are not interested then
please feel free to ignore this thread...

Dnia 2007-03-26 BertieBigBollox@gmail.com napisa³(a):
> On 24 Mar, 01:55, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>> <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174663722.404741.34940@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > As I understand an ECA stack is pretty much the only thing that works
>> > at all....

No. You could poison yourself with a bug spray and it will really
raise your metabolic rate. You'll sweat out more than you can drink.

>> > Am I right in saying Ephedrine works because its a thermogenic and
>> > this raises your base metabolic rate?

That's what I heard, but bug spray is stronger.

>> > How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
>> > I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?

From what I read by Pat Arnold, it's not worth the bother, until you
want to gross out the reader and show how much of a nutcase you are.
He went really high with the doses (above what's supposed to be lethal,
as far as I remember) and bumped up his metabolism to the point when he
could barely move. He burned more calories when doing nothing, sure,
but he didn't burn much by doing anything. He couldn't do anything.

I'd rather have a flu. Actually I did have several this winter (it was
a bad winter) and I lost a lot of weight. Still, I don't recommend it.

>> > Are there studies proving this?
>>
>> > Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or start out smaller first? Does
>> > adding caffeine make a difference as well?
>>
>> Have you ever tried just dieting and working out??
>
> Its amazing on usenet the number of people who will waste their time
> giving advice rather than answer the question....

Stupid people. They try to actually help you...

> Did I ask - whats the best way to lose weight - no I did not....
>
> If you dont know the answer to my question or are not interested then
> please feel free to ignore this thread...

You could ignore his advice, but instead you decided to give an advice
on how to respond to Usenet posts. I'm sure Rob will appreciate it. ;-)

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

<BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 24 Mar, 01:55, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>> <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174663722.404741.34940@b75g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > As I understand an ECA stack is pretty much the only thing that
>> > works
>> > at all....
>>
>> > Am I right in saying Ephedrine works because its a thermogenic and
>> > this raises your base metabolic rate?
>>
>> > How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories
>> > would
>> > I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>>
>> > Are there studies proving this?
>>
>> > Is it wise to go for 30Mg a day or start out smaller first? Does
>> > adding caffeine make a difference as well?
>>
>> Have you ever tried just dieting and working out??
>>
>
> Its amazing on usenet the number of people who will waste their time
> giving advice rather than answer the question....
>
> Did I ask - whats the best way to lose weight - no I did not....
>
> If you dont know the answer to my question or are not interested then
> please feel free to ignore this thread...

The answers to your original questions, all of which have been asked
many times here and elsewhere, are available on the Internet. Please do
as I originally suggested and search on the expression ECA Stack. The
Wikipedia article is a fine place to start because it contains links to
a few other articles. In addition, there are diet-specific newsgroups
(note that misc.fitness.weights does not include the work "diet") on
which you could ask your questions.

Nota Bene: Those of us who've been around here for at least a little
while often don't like to simply answer the questions asked for a simple
reason - people often ask the wrong questions. You can start by telling
us your age, sex, height, weight, bodyfat percentage, exercise
background, any current medical restrictions, any current exercise
restrictions, the last time you saw a doctor, etc., so that we can get
an idea of the big picture in your case, and _then_ some folks here
might decide to give you a more detailed opinion, and please note that I
said opinion, not answer. Absent that information, go Google yourself,
please.

You're welcome.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
>>> > I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>
>From what I read by Pat Arnold, it's not worth the bother, until you
>want to gross out the reader and show how much of a nutcase you are.
>He went really high with the doses (above what's supposed to be lethal,
>as far as I remember) and bumped up his metabolism to the point when he
>could barely move. He burned more calories when doing nothing, sure,
>but he didn't burn much by doing anything. He couldn't do anything.

Where did you read that? I don't recall PA doing anything like that.

Dnia 2007-03-26 JMW napisa³(a):
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
>>>> > I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>>
>>From what I read by Pat Arnold, it's not worth the bother, until you
>>want to gross out the reader and show how much of a nutcase you are.
>>He went really high with the doses (above what's supposed to be lethal,
>>as far as I remember) and bumped up his metabolism to the point when he
>>could barely move. He burned more calories when doing nothing, sure,
>>but he didn't burn much by doing anything. He couldn't do anything.
>
> Where did you read that? I don't recall PA doing anything like that.

You are right. It was somebody else, and I must have mixed the names.
Pat Arnold is a pro-hormone guy? I feel ashamed so I'll do a search.

I got it. It was Anthony Roberts (apologies to Pat) and below is the
link.

"Inferno: My Week on DNP"
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:o...&cd=5&ie=UTF-8

Google cache, because t-nation site seems to be down.

Some more coherent info about DNP by Anthony Roberts again:
http://www.steroid.com/DNP.php

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Dnia 2007-03-26 JMW napisa³(a):
>> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > How much does it raise it by? Typically, how many extra calories would
>>>>> > I burn by taking 30Mg Ephedrine?
>>>
>>>From what I read by Pat Arnold, it's not worth the bother, until you
>>>want to gross out the reader and show how much of a nutcase you are.
>>>He went really high with the doses (above what's supposed to be lethal,
>>>as far as I remember) and bumped up his metabolism to the point when he
>>>could barely move. He burned more calories when doing nothing, sure,
>>>but he didn't burn much by doing anything. He couldn't do anything.
>>
>> Where did you read that? I don't recall PA doing anything like that.
>
>You are right. It was somebody else, and I must have mixed the names.
>Pat Arnold is a pro-hormone guy? I feel ashamed so I'll do a search.
>
>I got it. It was Anthony Roberts (apologies to Pat) and below is the
>link.
>
>"Inferno: My Week on DNP"
>http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:o...&cd=5&ie=UTF-8

As usual, Tmag is on the cutting edge ... about nine years after the
fact. Here is Lyle's MFW post from the time he got stupid enough to
take bug poison:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....c49e408?hl=en&

These are PA's thoughts on DNP:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....37934f9?hl=en&
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....c6ff36f?hl=en&