Fat people

Always Learning wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:25:25 -0400, Marshall Price
> <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote this stuff here :
>
>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>> Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
>>> news:66igv0F2krp67U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:d5ednaKRS9-wT53VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:Z7qdnWpVRfQX9WranZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> WaCoder <tboylinux@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:467032A5.1000900@comcast.net:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pete wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Today, i would like to discuss fat people with all of you...
>>>>>>>>>>> What do we know about fat people? Other than that they are obese,
>>>>>>>>>>> i mean...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Generally speaking, fat people are lazy and stupid.
>>>>>>>>>> This is the most insulting, uninformed, prejudiced, bigoted
>>>>>>>>>> statement I have ever heard in my life. If you had replaced "fat"
>>>>>>>>>> with "black" or "Mexican", you would have been dismissed out of
>>>>>>>>>> hand as a bigot, racist, stupid and not worth the time of day. But
>>>>>>>>>> just because you're bashing fat ppl, you think you can get away
>>>>>>>>>> with it. For shame....
>>>>>>>>> Not really. Black or Mexican people had no choice as to what race
>>>>>>>>> they were born. Fat people do it to themselves.
>>>>>>>> Is that how bariatricians explain it, or do we have to rely on you
>>>>>>>> for the straight dope?
>>>>>>> How else do fat people get fat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>>
>>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>>
>>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>>
>>>> kate
>>> The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would take
>>> for that one to come up.
>>>
>> What makes you presume to imply thyroid diseases don't exist? I can't
>> imagine why you want to flaunt such ignorance in public.
>
>
> For every one million fatasses their might be ONE with some thyroid
> condition. Most fattys are fat because they eat too much food and do
> not exercise.
>
>
>
i lost 30 lbs in the first 3 mo of synthroid treatment

look up Hashimoto's and i hope YOU don't have to deal with this soon

at 5'6" i have weighed 125 lbs since high school........... over 30
years ago

ok, back to you on your high horse

kate

Tiger_Lily wrote:
> Always Learning wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:25:25 -0400, Marshall Price
>> <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote this stuff here :
>>
>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>> Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
>>>> news:66igv0F2krp67U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:d5ednaKRS9-wT53VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:Z7qdnWpVRfQX9WranZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> WaCoder <tboylinux@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:467032A5.1000900@comcast.net:
>>>>>>>>>>> Pete wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, i would like to discuss fat people with all of you...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we know about fat people? Other than that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> obese,
>>>>>>>>>>>> i mean...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally speaking, fat people are lazy and stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the most insulting, uninformed, prejudiced, bigoted
>>>>>>>>>>> statement I have ever heard in my life. If you had replaced
>>>>>>>>>>> "fat"
>>>>>>>>>>> with "black" or "Mexican", you would have been dismissed out of
>>>>>>>>>>> hand as a bigot, racist, stupid and not worth the time of
>>>>>>>>>>> day. But
>>>>>>>>>>> just because you're bashing fat ppl, you think you can get away
>>>>>>>>>>> with it. For shame....
>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Black or Mexican people had no choice as to what race
>>>>>>>>>> they were born. Fat people do it to themselves.
>>>>>>>>> Is that how bariatricians explain it, or do we have to rely on you
>>>>>>>>> for the straight dope?
>>>>>>>> How else do fat people get fat?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>>>
>>>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>>>
>>>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> kate
>>>> The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would
>>>> take
>>>> for that one to come up.
>>> What makes you presume to imply thyroid diseases don't exist? I
>>> can't imagine why you want to flaunt such ignorance in public.
>>
>>
>> For every one million fatasses their might be ONE with some thyroid
>> condition. Most fattys are fat because they eat too much food and do
>> not exercise.
>>
>>
>>
> i lost 30 lbs in the first 3 mo of synthroid treatment
>
> look up Hashimoto's and i hope YOU don't have to deal with this soon
>
> at 5'6" i have weighed 125 lbs since high school........... over 30
> years ago
>
> ok, back to you on your high horse
>
> kate

why am i NOT surprised that this troll hasn't responded again????

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:55:13 -0600, Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote
this stuff here :

>Always Learning wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:25:25 -0400, Marshall Price
>> <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote this stuff here :
>>
>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>> Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
>>>> news:66igv0F2krp67U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:d5ednaKRS9-wT53VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:Z7qdnWpVRfQX9WranZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> WaCoder <tboylinux@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:467032A5.1000900@comcast.net:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pete wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, i would like to discuss fat people with all of you...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we know about fat people? Other than that they are obese,
>>>>>>>>>>>> i mean...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally speaking, fat people are lazy and stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the most insulting, uninformed, prejudiced, bigoted
>>>>>>>>>>> statement I have ever heard in my life. If you had replaced "fat"
>>>>>>>>>>> with "black" or "Mexican", you would have been dismissed out of
>>>>>>>>>>> hand as a bigot, racist, stupid and not worth the time of day. But
>>>>>>>>>>> just because you're bashing fat ppl, you think you can get away
>>>>>>>>>>> with it. For shame....
>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Black or Mexican people had no choice as to what race
>>>>>>>>>> they were born. Fat people do it to themselves.
>>>>>>>>> Is that how bariatricians explain it, or do we have to rely on you
>>>>>>>>> for the straight dope?
>>>>>>>> How else do fat people get fat?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>>>
>>>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>>>
>>>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> kate
>>>> The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would take
>>>> for that one to come up.
>>>>
>>> What makes you presume to imply thyroid diseases don't exist? I can't
>>> imagine why you want to flaunt such ignorance in public.
>>
>>
>> For every one million fatasses their might be ONE with some thyroid
>> condition. Most fattys are fat because they eat too much food and do
>> not exercise.
>>
>>
>>
>i lost 30 lbs in the first 3 mo of synthroid treatment
>
>look up Hashimoto's and i hope YOU don't have to deal with this soon
>
>at 5'6" i have weighed 125 lbs since high school........... over 30
>years ago
>
>ok, back to you on your high horse
>
>kate


I noticed you didn't deny it's probably 1 in 1 million.

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:41:28 -0600, Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote
this stuff here :

>Tiger_Lily wrote:
>> Always Learning wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:25:25 -0400, Marshall Price
>>> <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote this stuff here :
>>>
>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>> Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:66igv0F2krp67U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:d5ednaKRS9-wT53VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:Z7qdnWpVRfQX9WranZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>>>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> WaCoder <tboylinux@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:467032A5.1000900@comcast.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pete wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, i would like to discuss fat people with all of you...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we know about fat people? Other than that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> obese,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i mean...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally speaking, fat people are lazy and stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the most insulting, uninformed, prejudiced, bigoted
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement I have ever heard in my life. If you had replaced
>>>>>>>>>>>> "fat"
>>>>>>>>>>>> with "black" or "Mexican", you would have been dismissed out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> hand as a bigot, racist, stupid and not worth the time of
>>>>>>>>>>>> day. But
>>>>>>>>>>>> just because you're bashing fat ppl, you think you can get away
>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. For shame....
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Black or Mexican people had no choice as to what race
>>>>>>>>>>> they were born. Fat people do it to themselves.
>>>>>>>>>> Is that how bariatricians explain it, or do we have to rely on you
>>>>>>>>>> for the straight dope?
>>>>>>>>> How else do fat people get fat?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>>>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kate
>>>>> The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would
>>>>> take
>>>>> for that one to come up.
>>>> What makes you presume to imply thyroid diseases don't exist? I
>>>> can't imagine why you want to flaunt such ignorance in public.
>>>
>>>
>>> For every one million fatasses their might be ONE with some thyroid
>>> condition. Most fattys are fat because they eat too much food and do
>>> not exercise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> i lost 30 lbs in the first 3 mo of synthroid treatment
>>
>> look up Hashimoto's and i hope YOU don't have to deal with this soon
>>
>> at 5'6" i have weighed 125 lbs since high school........... over 30
>> years ago
>>
>> ok, back to you on your high horse
>>
>> kate
>
>why am i NOT surprised that this troll hasn't responded again????


This "troll" wonders why this ng has a lot of people believing things
that are not true?

Like how thyroid disorders MIGHT, express MIGHT, account for 1 in one
million fatasses reasons for being fat.

The VAST majority of people are fat because they EAT TOO MUCH FOOD
and/or do not exercise, not even 10 minutes per day.

How does this all make me a troll again?

Always Learning wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:55:13 -0600, Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote
> this stuff here :
>
>> Always Learning wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:25:25 -0400, Marshall Price
>>> <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote this stuff here :
>>>
>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>> Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:66igv0F2krp67U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:d5ednaKRS9-wT53VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:Z7qdnWpVRfQX9WranZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> WaCoder <tboylinux@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:467032A5.1000900@comcast.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pete wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, i would like to discuss fat people with all of you...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we know about fat people? Other than that they are obese,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i mean...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally speaking, fat people are lazy and stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the most insulting, uninformed, prejudiced, bigoted
>>>>>>>>>>>> statement I have ever heard in my life. If you had replaced "fat"
>>>>>>>>>>>> with "black" or "Mexican", you would have been dismissed out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> hand as a bigot, racist, stupid and not worth the time of day. But
>>>>>>>>>>>> just because you're bashing fat ppl, you think you can get away
>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. For shame....
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. Black or Mexican people had no choice as to what race
>>>>>>>>>>> they were born. Fat people do it to themselves.
>>>>>>>>>> Is that how bariatricians explain it, or do we have to rely on you
>>>>>>>>>> for the straight dope?
>>>>>>>>> How else do fat people get fat?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>>>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kate
>>>>> The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would take
>>>>> for that one to come up.
>>>>>
>>>> What makes you presume to imply thyroid diseases don't exist? I can't
>>>> imagine why you want to flaunt such ignorance in public.
>>>
>>> For every one million fatasses their might be ONE with some thyroid
>>> condition. Most fattys are fat because they eat too much food and do
>>> not exercise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> i lost 30 lbs in the first 3 mo of synthroid treatment
>>
>> look up Hashimoto's and i hope YOU don't have to deal with this soon
>>
>> at 5'6" i have weighed 125 lbs since high school........... over 30
>> years ago
>>
>> ok, back to you on your high horse
>>
>> kate
>
>
> I noticed you didn't deny it's probably 1 in 1 million.
>
>
i didn't discuss THAT........ you said 'as if' when i indicated that my
thyroid went south, i didn't get treatment for it, and i gained weight

you will have to poll people with thryoid yourself to find an acceptable
number that isn't something you pulled out of a hat

in other words...... it wasnt' worth answering that comment as it's not
based in science anywhere

Richard Evans <infodex@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:ggu804tou54686casa22c0r0gikd8rmgrj@4ax.com:

> Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty> wrote:
>
> \>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>
>>>
>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>
>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>
>>> kate
>>
>>The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would take
>>for that one to come up.
>
> Somehow I have the feeling that you are so heavily invested in feeling
> superior to people who don't conform to your personal weight standards
> that ANYTHING anyone mentions would be dismissed as a bullshit excuse.

I AM superior. I have self discipline, a quality sadly missing from obese
peoples' lives (and substituted with denial).



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Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Pc-dnVtpt7vqtZvVnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@earthlink.com:

> Naughty Boy wrote:
>> Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote in
>> news:66igv0F2krp67U1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:d5ednaKRS9-wT53VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>> Marshall Price <d021317c@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:Z7qdnWpVRfQX9WranZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>>>>>>> WaCoder <tboylinux@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:467032A5.1000900@comcast.net:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pete wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Today, i would like to discuss fat people with all of you...
>>>>>>>>>> What do we know about fat people? Other than that they are
>>>>>>>>>> obese, i mean...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Generally speaking, fat people are lazy and stupid.
>>>>>>>>> This is the most insulting, uninformed, prejudiced, bigoted
>>>>>>>>> statement I have ever heard in my life. If you had replaced
>>>>>>>>> "fat" with "black" or "Mexican", you would have been dismissed
>>>>>>>>> out of hand as a bigot, racist, stupid and not worth the time of
>>>>>>>>> day. But just because you're bashing fat ppl, you think you can
>>>>>>>>> get away with it. For shame....
>>>>>>>> Not really. Black or Mexican people had no choice as to what race
>>>>>>>> they were born. Fat people do it to themselves.
>>>>>>> Is that how bariatricians explain it, or do we have to rely on you
>>>>>>> for the straight dope?
>>>>>> How else do fat people get fat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>
>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>
>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>
>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>
>>> kate
>>
>> The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would
>> take for that one to come up.
>>
>
> What makes you presume to imply thyroid diseases don't exist? I can't
> imagine why you want to flaunt such ignorance in public.
>

Of course they exist, dummy. Using them as an excuse for obesity isn't new
either. How do you explain thin people with the self same thyroid
diseases?


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Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty> wrote:

>>
>> Somehow I have the feeling that you are so heavily invested in feeling
>> superior to people who don't conform to your personal weight standards
>> that ANYTHING anyone mentions would be dismissed as a bullshit excuse.
>
>I AM superior. I have self discipline, a quality sadly missing from obese
>peoples' lives (and substituted with denial).

See my earlier comments about "attribution theory". Superior? Hell,
you aren't even unusual.

Richard Evans <infodex@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:20un04pkktqqlegj6mnm3fij5559l5n8tb@4ax.com:

> Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Somehow I have the feeling that you are so heavily invested in feeling
>>> superior to people who don't conform to your personal weight standards
>>> that ANYTHING anyone mentions would be dismissed as a bullshit excuse.
>>
>>I AM superior. I have self discipline, a quality sadly missing from obese
>>peoples' lives (and substituted with denial).
>
> See my earlier comments about "attribution theory". Superior? Hell,
> you aren't even unusual.
>

Of course I'm not unusual. I'm like most people - I eat and exercise in
moderation, and don't become obese.

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Naughty Boy wrote:
> Richard Evans <infodex@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:20un04pkktqqlegj6mnm3fij5559l5n8tb@4ax.com:
>
>
>> Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Somehow I have the feeling that you are so heavily invested in feeling
>>>> superior to people who don't conform to your personal weight standards
>>>> that ANYTHING anyone mentions would be dismissed as a bullshit excuse.
>>>>
>>> I AM superior. I have self discipline, a quality sadly missing from obese
>>> peoples' lives (and substituted with denial).
>>>
>> See my earlier comments about "attribution theory". Superior? Hell,
>> you aren't even unusual.
>>
>>
>
> Of course I'm not unusual. I'm like most people - I eat and exercise in
> moderation, and don't become obese.
>
>
Such a sad attitude. There are other reasons for being overweight
besides discipline. Some meds cause weight gain and the docs don't
always tell you which ones - so people are out there taking meds,
gaining weight and can't figure out why. There are others who weren't
overweight but may have had some kind of injury or accident that limits
exercise and sometimes you eat less and less at that time and still gain
weight. There are also hormonal problems (with both men and women).
There are some diseases that cause weight gain. Each individual is
different. You can't just say "if so an so had self discipline, they
wouldn't be overweight" It doesn't work that way.

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:29:30 -0500, Diane B <dball2@satx.rr.com> wrote
this stuff here :

>Naughty Boy wrote:
>> Richard Evans <infodex@mindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:20un04pkktqqlegj6mnm3fij5559l5n8tb@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>> Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Somehow I have the feeling that you are so heavily invested in feeling
>>>>> superior to people who don't conform to your personal weight standards
>>>>> that ANYTHING anyone mentions would be dismissed as a bullshit excuse.
>>>>>
>>>> I AM superior. I have self discipline, a quality sadly missing from obese
>>>> peoples' lives (and substituted with denial).
>>>>
>>> See my earlier comments about "attribution theory". Superior? Hell,
>>> you aren't even unusual.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Of course I'm not unusual. I'm like most people - I eat and exercise in
>> moderation, and don't become obese.
>>
>>
>Such a sad attitude. There are other reasons for being overweight
>besides discipline. Some meds cause weight gain and the docs don't
>always tell you which ones - so people are out there taking meds,
>gaining weight and can't figure out why. There are others who weren't
>overweight but may have had some kind of injury or accident that limits
>exercise and sometimes you eat less and less at that time and still gain
>weight. There are also hormonal problems (with both men and women).
>There are some diseases that cause weight gain. Each individual is
>different. You can't just say "if so an so had self discipline, they
>wouldn't be overweight" It doesn't work that way.


If you exceed the number of calories needed to maintain your current
weight you WILL ALWAYS gain weight.

Excuses do not excuse the truth about weight gain.

Calories do count, every time and all the time.

Always Learning <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:

>
>If you exceed the number of calories needed to maintain your current
>weight you WILL ALWAYS gain weight.
>
>Excuses do not excuse the truth about weight gain.
>
>Calories do count, every time and all the time.


So, with that philosphy and your superior self control, you must also
be a milliionaire. After all, all it takes is earning more than you
spend.

Diane B <dball2@satx.rr.com> wrote in
news:480c7aa7$0$30167$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Naughty Boy wrote:
>> Richard Evans <infodex@mindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:20un04pkktqqlegj6mnm3fij5559l5n8tb@4ax.com:
>>
>>
>>> Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Somehow I have the feeling that you are so heavily invested in
>>>>> feeling superior to people who don't conform to your personal weight
>>>>> standards that ANYTHING anyone mentions would be dismissed as a
>>>>> bullshit excuse.
>>>>>
>>>> I AM superior. I have self discipline, a quality sadly missing from
>>>> obese peoples' lives (and substituted with denial).
>>>>
>>> See my earlier comments about "attribution theory". Superior? Hell,
>>> you aren't even unusual.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Of course I'm not unusual. I'm like most people - I eat and exercise in
>> moderation, and don't become obese.
>>
>>
> Such a sad attitude. There are other reasons for being overweight
> besides discipline. Some meds cause weight gain and the docs don't
> always tell you which ones - so people are out there taking meds,
> gaining weight and can't figure out why. There are others who weren't
> overweight but may have had some kind of injury or accident that limits
> exercise and sometimes you eat less and less at that time and still gain
> weight. There are also hormonal problems (with both men and women).
> There are some diseases that cause weight gain. Each individual is
> different. You can't just say "if so an so had self discipline, they
> wouldn't be overweight" It doesn't work that way.

It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going in than
can be used, obesity results. If you have a condition that may result in
weight gain, take the appropriate steps.


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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:28:09 -0400, Richard Evans
<infodex@mindspring.com> wrote this stuff here :

>Always Learning <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>
>>
>>If you exceed the number of calories needed to maintain your current
>>weight you WILL ALWAYS gain weight.
>>
>>Excuses do not excuse the truth about weight gain.
>>
>>Calories do count, every time and all the time.
>
>
>So, with that philosphy and your superior self control, you must also
>be a milliionaire. After all, all it takes is earning more than you
>spend.


So you lost the argument and resorted to discussing wealth
accumulation?

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
wrote this stuff here :

>It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going in than
>can be used, obesity results.


Why are people denying this fact?

Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:10:36 -0400, Always Learning
<noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
>wrote this stuff here :
>
>>It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going in than
>>can be used, obesity results.
>
>
>Why are people denying this fact?
>
>Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?
>


no one is denying that one fact, why are you intentionally denying the
other facts in regards to obesity and it's causes?

intentionally denying the rest of the facts while being obsessed with
only one, demonstrates your lack of honesty and integrety at the very
least.

Always Learning <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote in
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
> wrote this stuff here :
>
>>It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going in
>>than can be used, obesity results.
>
>
> Why are people denying this fact?
>
> Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?

Yep. Why have "fat acceptance" at all? Just like people who dress slovenly
and are denied entry to a cocktail party, they scream discrimination. There
is no discrimination, just standards to be met to be a part of something.
Obese people refuse to meet those standards and expect special treatment.
Well guess what, it ain't gonna happen. Just lose some weight.



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Naughty Boy wrote:
> Always Learning <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote in
> news:tber0492k3ickiorali6s8bd4tkmeve424@zzz.com:
>
>
>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
>> wrote this stuff here :
>>
>>
>>> It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going in
>>> than can be used, obesity results.
>>>
>> Why are people denying this fact?
>>
>> Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?
>>
>
> Yep. Why have "fat acceptance" at all? Just like people who dress slovenly
> and are denied entry to a cocktail party, they scream discrimination. There
> is no discrimination, just standards to be met to be a part of something.
> Obese people refuse to meet those standards and expect special treatment.
> Well guess what, it ain't gonna happen. Just lose some weight.
>
>
>
When you have life changes physically, or medications change - people
don't always know how much they are going to have to cut back or may not
realize that they do until they start gaining weight - once you start
gaining - it makes losing all that much more difficult. It isn't a
black and white issue like some people like to make it. Age also has a
lot to do with weight gain. Who could eat all the pizza they wanted
while in high school and college and now gain weight just thinking about
eating pizza.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:10:43 -0400, Blindman@searching.invalid wrote
this stuff here :

>On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:10:36 -0400, Always Learning
><noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
>>wrote this stuff here :
>>
>>>It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going in than
>>>can be used, obesity results.
>>
>>
>>Why are people denying this fact?
>>
>>Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?
>>
>
>
>no one is denying that one fact, why are you intentionally denying the
>other facts in regards to obesity and it's causes?
>
>intentionally denying the rest of the facts while being obsessed with
>only one, demonstrates your lack of honesty and integrety at the very
>least.

The fact that overeating causes fatness is so great and important that
all those other 'factors' are not important enough to mention.

Hypothyroidism could be a factor in fatness BUT in perhaps one in a
million fat people.

Overeating is the main rain, focus on the main reasons.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:55:28 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
wrote this stuff here :

>Obese people refuse to meet those standards and expect special treatment.
>Well guess what, it ain't gonna happen. Just lose some weight.


Couldn't have said it better!

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:26:36 -0500, Diane B <dball2@satx.rr.com> wrote
this stuff here :

> Age also has a
>lot to do with weight gain.

That accounts for 1 or maybe 2 pounds per YEAR of weight gain. What
about the 450 pound fatty who reaches middle age? Do you really
believe it's because of his/her age?

Always Learning wrote:
> Diane B <dball2@satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Age also has a lot to do with weight gain.
>
> That accounts for 1 or maybe 2 pounds per YEAR of weight gain. What
> about the 450 pound fatty who reaches middle age? Do you really
> believe it's because of his/her age?

It remains smarter to simply eat less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater
understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

Diane B <dball2@satx.rr.com> wrote in
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> Naughty Boy wrote:
>> Always Learning <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote in
>> news:tber0492k3ickiorali6s8bd4tkmeve424@zzz.com:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
>>> wrote this stuff here :
>>>
>>>
>>>> It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going
>>>> in than can be used, obesity results.
>>>>
>>> Why are people denying this fact?
>>>
>>> Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?
>>>
>>
>> Yep. Why have "fat acceptance" at all? Just like people who dress
>> slovenly and are denied entry to a cocktail party, they scream
>> discrimination. There is no discrimination, just standards to be met to
>> be a part of something. Obese people refuse to meet those standards and
>> expect special treatment. Well guess what, it ain't gonna happen. Just
>> lose some weight.
>>
>>
>>
> When you have life changes physically, or medications change - people
> don't always know how much they are going to have to cut back or may not
> realize that they do until they start gaining weight - once you start
> gaining - it makes losing all that much more difficult. It isn't a
> black and white issue like some people like to make it. Age also has a
> lot to do with weight gain. Who could eat all the pizza they wanted
> while in high school and college and now gain weight just thinking about
> eating pizza.

Obesity does not happen overnight. D- for effort.


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"Naughty Boy" <naughtynaughty> wrote in message
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> Richard Evans <infodex@mindspring.com> wrote in
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>> Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty> wrote:
>>
>> \>>>> Certainly not by being lazy or stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What theories do you have? let's hear them!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>>
>>>> is that good enough for you?
>>>>
>>>> kate
>>>
>>>The old "thyroid" bullshit excuse. I was wondering how long it would take
>>>for that one to come up.
>>
>> Somehow I have the feeling that you are so heavily invested in feeling
>> superior to people who don't conform to your personal weight standards
>> that ANYTHING anyone mentions would be dismissed as a bullshit excuse.
>
> I AM superior. I have self discipline, a quality sadly missing from obese
> peoples' lives (and substituted with denial).

A superior imbecile? Yes, you are. Hate to break it to you skippy, but you
are superior to NO ONE. When you
actually know what the hell you are talking about, get back to us won't you?

"Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
> wrote this stuff here :
>
>>It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going in
>>than
>>can be used, obesity results.
>
>
> Why are people denying this fact?
>
> Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?

Because it is NOT a fact. If you two actually checked your so-called facts
before spouting your drivel, you might know what the hell you are talking
about. Unfortunately, you seem not be interested in doing so, and continue
to make your imbecilic comments.

"Naughty Boy" <naughtynaughty> wrote in message
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> Diane B <dball2@satx.rr.com> wrote in
> news:480f1cfe$0$3381$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Naughty Boy wrote:
>>> Always Learning <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote in
>>> news:tber0492k3ickiorali6s8bd4tkmeve424@zzz.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
>>>> wrote this stuff here :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It isn't rocket science, it's simple. If too many calories are going
>>>>> in than can be used, obesity results.
>>>>>
>>>> Why are people denying this fact?
>>>>
>>>> Is it they're 'feelings' are being hurt with these facts?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep. Why have "fat acceptance" at all? Just like people who dress
>>> slovenly and are denied entry to a cocktail party, they scream
>>> discrimination. There is no discrimination, just standards to be met to
>>> be a part of something. Obese people refuse to meet those standards and
>>> expect special treatment. Well guess what, it ain't gonna happen. Just
>>> lose some weight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> When you have life changes physically, or medications change - people
>> don't always know how much they are going to have to cut back or may not
>> realize that they do until they start gaining weight - once you start
>> gaining - it makes losing all that much more difficult. It isn't a
>> black and white issue like some people like to make it. Age also has a
>> lot to do with weight gain. Who could eat all the pizza they wanted
>> while in high school and college and now gain weight just thinking about
>> eating pizza.
>
> Obesity does not happen overnight. D- for effort.

When you ACTUALLY know what the hell you are talking about, please get back
to us.

"Always Learning" <noPublicEmail@this.time> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:55:28 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
> wrote this stuff here :
>
>>Obese people refuse to meet those standards and expect special treatment.
>>Well guess what, it ain't gonna happen. Just lose some weight.
>
>
> Couldn't have said it better!

Do you actually know what the hell you are talking about, or do you make
this shit up as you go along?

"DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:

>>
>> Obesity does not happen overnight. D- for effort.
>
>When you ACTUALLY know what the hell you are talking about, please get back
>to us.

People like him and his sidekick always know what they are talking
about.

Obese? Just stop eating.

Alcoholic? Just stop drinking.

Drug addicted? Just say no to drugs. (That worked so well for Nancy
Reagan).

Teenage pregnancy? Teens should just stop having sex.

I think it was Bill Maher who sid: "If you make people think, they
will hate you. But, if you make them think they are thinking they will
love you.

What we have here is a couple of simpletons who think they are
thinking and are oh so pleased with themselves.

Of course, neither of them have to deal with the problems they are so
cavalier about.

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Richard Evans wrote:

> Obese? Just stop eating.
> Alcoholic? Just stop drinking.
> Drug addicted? Just say no to drugs.
> Teenage pregnancy? Teens should just stop having sex.

Obese people COULD go on a diet, and stop being obese... But what's the
cure for "asshole"?

"Richard Evans" <infodex@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Obesity does not happen overnight. D- for effort.
>>
>>When you ACTUALLY know what the hell you are talking about, please get
>>back
>>to us.
>
> People like him and his sidekick always know what they are talking
> about.

Right. Talking shit doesn't constitute knowing what you are talking about.
Just that they have the IQ of a mold spore.

> Obese? Just stop eating.

If it were THAT easy, everyone would be thin. Apparently they have never
heard of a thing called genetics. Some people are genetically predisposed to
obesity no matter how much they eat. Thyroid problems. The mechani