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Old 05-10-2008, 12:01 AM
grhmrpr@lycos.co.uk
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Default Gripping Strength and Wrist Strength

Dear all

I am wanting to improve my gripping strength and wrist strength as I
have noticed whenever I use the lat machine for a tricep pulldown my
wrist flexes

I find the barbell wrist curl 'unnatural'. Its difficult to explain
but you know when you are using a pec dec or a chest press machine and
the handles are to far or to close apart it doesnt feel right. Would a
wrist curl excerciser be as effective.


With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
assume.

Also I would appreciate your views on the eagle catcher in relation to
the above.


regards

G
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:27 AM
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<grhmrpr@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:06eedd90-2513-4ad4-bd89-4859b00d1ac9@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Dear all
>
> I am wanting to improve my gripping strength and wrist strength as I
> have noticed whenever I use the lat machine for a tricep pulldown my
> wrist flexes
>
> I find the barbell wrist curl 'unnatural'. Its difficult to explain
> but you know when you are using a pec dec or a chest press machine and
> the handles are to far or to close apart it doesnt feel right. Would a
> wrist curl excerciser be as effective.
>
>
> With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
> best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
> both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
> one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
> assume.
>
> Also I would appreciate your views on the eagle catcher in relation to
> the above.
>
>
> regards
>
> G


Don't use "Machines" Free Weights forever

Burr


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Old 05-10-2008, 02:17 PM
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Burr wrote:
> <grhmrpr@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:06eedd90-2513-4ad4-bd89-4859b00d1ac9@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> Dear all
>>
>> I am wanting to improve my gripping strength and wrist strength as I
>> have noticed whenever I use the lat machine for a tricep pulldown my
>> wrist flexes
>>
>> I find the barbell wrist curl 'unnatural'. Its difficult to explain
>> but you know when you are using a pec dec or a chest press machine and
>> the handles are to far or to close apart it doesnt feel right. Would a
>> wrist curl excerciser be as effective.
>>
>>
>> With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
>> best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
>> both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
>> one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
>> assume.
>>
>> Also I would appreciate your views on the eagle catcher in relation to
>> the above.
>>
>>
>> regards
>>
>> G

>
> Don't use "Machines" Free Weights forever
>
> Burr
>
>

Indeed. Also try things like "farmers walks" or deadlifts. To quote from
some blog:

"The farmers walk will really help to improve the grip and hand
strength.YOU CAN USE ANYTHING to do this movement. Buckets filled with
sand, weight plates that have built in handles, dumbbells, hard
suitcases filled with cement or rocks, boulders with chains and handles
around them, ANYTHING. Just make sure they grab one in each hand and get
walking."

Bob
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:17 PM
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grhmrpr@lycos.co.uk wrote:

> With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
> best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
> both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
> one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
> assume.


Thick rubber bands around the fingers for finger extensions. Want more
resistance? Add more bands. Personally, I'd only do this if I was really
focusing on forearm and grip development.

Ari

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Old 05-10-2008, 02:17 PM
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"Bob Volkmer"
>>
>> Don't use "Machines" Free Weights forever
>>
>> Burr

> Indeed. Also try things like "farmers walks" or deadlifts. To quote from
> some blog:
>
> "The farmers walk will really help to improve the grip and hand
> strength.YOU CAN USE ANYTHING to do this movement. Buckets filled with
> sand, weight plates that have built in handles, dumbbells, hard suitcases
> filled with cement or rocks, boulders with chains and handles around them,
> ANYTHING. Just make sure they grab one in each hand and get walking."
>
> Bob


Bob,
If you want to get an iron grip just walk around holding two #45 plates.
Every time I load the skid or the bar I feel it.
When you load the top of the skid be sure to put little #5 spacers between
the 45's or you'll never get them off!

I love big plates, I love the feel, the sound and the look!!! Get "Mean" MF

Burr

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Big, Lean, Mean & Clean

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Old 05-10-2008, 02:17 PM
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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> grhmrpr@lycos.co.uk wrote:
>
>> With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
>> best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
>> both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
>> one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
>> assume.

>
> Thick rubber bands around the fingers for finger extensions. Want more
> resistance? Add more bands. Personally, I'd only do this if I was really
> focusing on forearm and grip development.
>
> Ari
>
> --
> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
> volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:
> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/


Do this:

Strip Set

5. Barbell wrist ext 1 10 1
10-10-10 311 0

Biceps Tri-set

6.Dumbbell Seated 1 10 1
10 422 0

Biceps Curl, Incline

7.Ez Bar Preacher Curls 1 10 1
10 422 0

Reverse Grip

8.Dumbbell Seated 1 10 1
10 422 60-120

Hammer Curl

I have to use wrist strips on a lot of my gripping because of damaged
thumbs.

The "Rubber Bands" work great also.

Burr

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Big, Lean, Mean & Clean

Subs. Iron Mind 20 yrs.




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Old 05-10-2008, 02:17 PM
Andrzej Rosa
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Dnia 2008-05-09 grhmrpr@lycos.co.uk napisał(a):
> Dear all
>
> I am wanting to improve my gripping strength and wrist strength as I
> have noticed whenever I use the lat machine for a tricep pulldown my
> wrist flexes


Handling heavy loads is probably the best grip exercise, or if not the
best at least the most useful. Overhand grip deadlifts, dumbbell
shrugs, farmer's walk, one armed bodyweight hangs for time - that sort
of stuff.

> I find the barbell wrist curl 'unnatural'.


You can use leverages for them. You can load one end of a dumbbell,
grip the other and curl it up like it was a hammer in your hand (or even
grip an empty barbell in the right spot to provide enough resistance).
It works both ways, that is both for wrist flexion and extension, but
watch out for wrist wear. My wrists are not the strongest in the world,
and this thing tends to give me tendinitis.

> Its difficult to explain
> but you know when you are using a pec dec or a chest press machine and
> the handles are to far or to close apart it doesnt feel right. Would a
> wrist curl excerciser be as effective.


You mean wrist roller? It works. You should just use rather plenty of
weight, so your wrist roller should be held with your arms straight down
to allow you to do so.

> With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
> best


Not really, but it's easy and convenient, so useful in this regard.

> however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
> both directions.


Not very important with grip. Don't worry.

> Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
> one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
> assume.


Karate guys like to train their expansion in sand. You punch into the
sand and open up your fingers fast. It doesn't seem like much, but it
is.

> Also I would appreciate your views on the eagle catcher in relation to
> the above.


I've no idea what is an eagle catcher. Anyway, my belief is that your
grip should be trained during your normal workout schedule most of the
time. This way you'll tend to keep things sane and useful. It's easy
to overwork your grip and forearms, because they are so small muscles
and you can train them hard even when dog tired. You can't train hard
heavy farmer's walks or deadlifts beyond all reason, though.

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Old 05-10-2008, 02:17 PM
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On May 9, 7:29*pm, grhm...@lycos.co.uk wrote:
> Dear all
>
> I am wanting to improve my gripping strength and wrist strength as I
> have noticed whenever I use the lat machine for a tricep pulldown my
> wrist flexes
>
> I find the barbell wrist curl 'unnatural'. Its difficult to explain
> but you know when you are using a pec dec or a chest press machine and
> the handles are to far or to close apart it doesnt feel right. Would a
> wrist curl excerciser be as effective.
>
> With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
> best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
> both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
> one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
> assume.
>
> Also I would appreciate your views on the eagle catcher in relation to
> the above.
>
> regards
>
> G


All back exercises without straps will help this problem, If you have
access to a thick bar, try some thick bar holds. Or pinch a plate
between your thumb and hand and perform a couple sets of holds.
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:25 AM
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On 10 May, 14:12, Cswen...@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 9, 7:29*pm, grhm...@lycos.co.uk wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dear all

>
> > I am wanting to improve my gripping strength and wrist strength as I
> > have noticed whenever I use the lat machine for a tricep pulldown my
> > wrist flexes

>
> > I find the barbell wrist curl 'unnatural'. Its difficult to explain
> > but you know when you are using a pec dec or a chest press machine and
> > the handles are to far or to close apart it doesnt feel right. Would a
> > wrist curl excerciser be as effective.

>
> > With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
> > best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
> > both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
> > one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
> > assume.

>
> > Also I would appreciate your views on the eagle catcher in relation to
> > the above.

>
> > regards

>
> > G

>
> All back exercises without straps will help this problem, If you have
> access to a thick bar, try some thick bar holds. Or pinch a plate
> between your thumb and hand and perform a couple sets of holds.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thank you all for your help, rarely have I seen so much response in
one day.

regards

G
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:18 AM
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On May 10, 5:13 pm, grhm...@lycos.co.uk wrote:
> On 10 May, 14:12, Cswen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 7:29 pm, grhm...@lycos.co.uk wrote:

>
> > > Dear all

>
> > > I am wanting to improve my gripping strength and wrist strength as I
> > > have noticed whenever I use the lat machine for a tricep pulldown my
> > > wrist flexes

>
> > > I find the barbell wrist curl 'unnatural'. Its difficult to explain
> > > but you know when you are using a pec dec or a chest press machine and
> > > the handles are to far or to close apart it doesnt feel right. Would a
> > > wrist curl excerciser be as effective.

>
> > > With regards to gripping strength obviously a hand gripper would be
> > > best however as with most excercises it is encouraged to excercise in
> > > both directions. Ie excecise your biceps and triceps not focuse on
> > > one. Is there any exercises for the opposite crushing, 'expanding' I
> > > assume.

>
> > > Also I would appreciate your views on the eagle catcher in relation to
> > > the above.

>
> > > regards

>
> > > G

>
> > All back exercises without straps will help this problem, If you have
> > access to a thick bar, try some thick bar holds. Or pinch a plate
> > between your thumb and hand and perform a couple sets of holds.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Thank you all for your help, rarely have I seen so much response in
> one day.
>
> regards
>
> G


ANy tips to build forearm mass?
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:19 AM
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Dnia 2008-05-19 ohdevil56@hotmail.com napisał(a):
> On May 10, 5:13 pm, grhm...@lycos.co.uk wrote:
>
>> > All back exercises without straps will help this problem, If you have
>> > access to a thick bar, try some thick bar holds. Or pinch a plate
>> > between your thumb and hand and perform a couple sets of holds.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Thank you all for your help, rarely have I seen so much response in
>> one day.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> G

>
> ANy tips to build forearm mass?


Working with hammers will build your forearms. It's fairly easy to
emulate it with gym equipment.

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