Gun reloading for the handicapped...

I have a close friend with ALS. (Lou Gehrig's Disease). He's had it for
21 years and is only recently having to use a Cane. Unlike Dr. Hawking
who is pretty much helpless in a wheelchair...

Anyway, his hand strength and coordination suck. He's fine being able to
reload a revolver (duh) but has a helluva time reloading magazines for a
semi-auto. Don't know why he wants to bother but when I ask him he
replies "because I want one". <G>

The slide on his current Springfield 9mm is too hard for him to pull
back but he has no problem with my SW9VE. He plans to trade in his
springfield for something he can actually cock.

But he can't put more than 2 bullets into one of my magazines, and that
just barely. :-(

I can't make him change his mind needless to say, but I recall reading
somewhere about a speed loader for semi-auto pistol magazines. I'm
trying to google it but having very poor luck doing so.

I'm wondering if such a thing really exists, if my memory is simply
faulty.

Surely there are alternatives for the handicapped?

Will be also posting this to the gun lists.

Thanks!
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp.omelet@gmail.com> schreef:

> Anyway, his hand strength and coordination suck. He's fine being able to
> reload a revolver (duh) but has a helluva time reloading magazines for a
> semi-auto. Don't know why he wants to bother but when I ask him he
> replies "because I want one". <G>

Its VERY tempting for me to make a smart-ass comment about this...

BUT,

You know me, so i wont!

----
Pete ;-O

In article <453121c6$0$35058$dbd43001@news.wanadoo.nl>,
"Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp.omelet@gmail.com> schreef:
>
> > Anyway, his hand strength and coordination suck. He's fine being able to
> > reload a revolver (duh) but has a helluva time reloading magazines for a
> > semi-auto. Don't know why he wants to bother but when I ask him he
> > replies "because I want one". <G>
>
> Its VERY tempting for me to make a smart-ass comment about this...
>
> BUT,
>
> You know me, so i wont!
>
> ----
> Pete ;-O

If it's something that'll make him smile, be my guest... ;-)

This dude is 68 years old and still gutsy enough to hit the gym twice
per week. Mostly to use the treadmill but he lifts weights as he is able.

He credits his longevity with ALS to his dedication to.....

<drumroll please>

SUPPLEMENTS!

As many antioxidants as he can afford.
He's currently taking 3 doses per week of IV Glutathione.

ALS is generally a death sentence within 5 years but not always.
A lot depends on the individual but the fact that he is still walking
(albeit unsteadily) after 21 years is a testimony to his grit.
--
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp.omelet@gmail.com> schreef:

> If it's something that'll make him smile, be my guest... ;-)

Well... would YOU stand next to him in the ally? ;-O

I went to to the clib together with a friend. Who had, and still has an
alcohol problem.
MANY times i asked hin NOT to drink before we went shooting. but he didnt
listen.

One day, for some reason i still dont know, he switched from 9mm to .357.
Colt Python with a 6 inch barrel.

He cocked it...pointed 45 degrees upward (!) WHILE he cocked it, his finger
was on the trigger (!!), then, for some reason, he squeezed it (!!!) and
then, the cock slided from his thumb (!!!!!!!)

.......

The bullet hitted a steel beam on the ceiling, came towards us, fragmented.
One fragment pounded on my chest, but i was fine.

He was scorched on the abdomen, but there was NO hole is pull-over. Weird.
I told him i woulndt shoot anymore with him if he was under influence.

This thing can NEVER happen with my Taurus. It has a transfer bar between
the cock and the pin.
If you let the cock slide, the transfer bar goes down. One of the reasons i
think the Raging Bull is one of THE finest handguns ever made.

But i am no expert.

----
Pete

In article <45314123$0$50979$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl>,
"Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp.omelet@gmail.com> schreef:
>
> > If it's something that'll make him smile, be my guest... ;-)
>
> Well... would YOU stand next to him in the ally? ;-O
>
> I went to to the clib together with a friend. Who had, and still has an
> alcohol problem.
> MANY times i asked hin NOT to drink before we went shooting. but he didnt
> listen.
>
> One day, for some reason i still dont know, he switched from 9mm to .357.
> Colt Python with a 6 inch barrel.
>
> He cocked it...pointed 45 degrees upward (!) WHILE he cocked it, his finger
> was on the trigger (!!), then, for some reason, he squeezed it (!!!) and
> then, the cock slided from his thumb (!!!!!!!)
>
> ......
>
> The bullet hitted a steel beam on the ceiling, came towards us, fragmented.
> One fragment pounded on my chest, but i was fine.
>
> He was scorched on the abdomen, but there was NO hole is pull-over. Weird.
> I told him i woulndt shoot anymore with him if he was under influence.
>
> This thing can NEVER happen with my Taurus. It has a transfer bar between
> the cock and the pin.
> If you let the cock slide, the transfer bar goes down. One of the reasons i
> think the Raging Bull is one of THE finest handguns ever made.
>
> But i am no expert.
>
> ----
> Pete

Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
you are using. :-(
--
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmp.omelet-353175.12370114102006@news.giganews.com...
>I have a close friend with ALS. (Lou Gehrig's Disease). He's had it for
> 21 years and is only recently having to use a Cane. Unlike Dr. Hawking
> who is pretty much helpless in a wheelchair...
>
> Anyway, his hand strength and coordination suck. He's fine being able to
> reload a revolver (duh) but has a helluva time reloading magazines for a
> semi-auto. Don't know why he wants to bother but when I ask him he
> replies "because I want one". <G>
>
> The slide on his current Springfield 9mm is too hard for him to pull
> back but he has no problem with my SW9VE. He plans to trade in his
> springfield for something he can actually cock.
>
> But he can't put more than 2 bullets into one of my magazines, and that
> just barely. :-(
>
> I can't make him change his mind needless to say, but I recall reading
> somewhere about a speed loader for semi-auto pistol magazines. I'm
> trying to google it but having very poor luck doing so.
>
> I'm wondering if such a thing really exists, if my memory is simply
> faulty.
>
> Surely there are alternatives for the handicapped?

There are lots of ways a person with various handicaps can use firearms.
But, to be honest with you, based on your description, I'm glad I live in a
different state than your friend.

David

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:15:06 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>In article <45314123$0$50979$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl>,
> "Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>
>> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp.omelet@gmail.com> schreef:
>>
>> > If it's something that'll make him smile, be my guest... ;-)
>>
>> Well... would YOU stand next to him in the ally? ;-O
>>
>> I went to to the clib together with a friend. Who had, and still has an
>> alcohol problem.
>> MANY times i asked hin NOT to drink before we went shooting. but he didnt
>> listen.
>>
>> One day, for some reason i still dont know, he switched from 9mm to .357.
>> Colt Python with a 6 inch barrel.
>>
>> He cocked it...pointed 45 degrees upward (!) WHILE he cocked it, his finger
>> was on the trigger (!!), then, for some reason, he squeezed it (!!!) and
>> then, the cock slided from his thumb (!!!!!!!)
>>
>> ......
>>
>> The bullet hitted a steel beam on the ceiling, came towards us, fragmented.
>> One fragment pounded on my chest, but i was fine.
>>
>> He was scorched on the abdomen, but there was NO hole is pull-over. Weird.
>> I told him i woulndt shoot anymore with him if he was under influence.
>>
>> This thing can NEVER happen with my Taurus. It has a transfer bar between
>> the cock and the pin.
>> If you let the cock slide, the transfer bar goes down. One of the reasons i
>> think the Raging Bull is one of THE finest handguns ever made.
>>
>> But i am no expert.
>>
>> ----
>> Pete
>
>Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
>you are using. :-(

I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.

In article <qcdYg.13920$UG4.8777@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink .net>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmp.omelet-353175.12370114102006@news.giganews.com...
> >I have a close friend with ALS. (Lou Gehrig's Disease). He's had it for
> > 21 years and is only recently having to use a Cane. Unlike Dr. Hawking
> > who is pretty much helpless in a wheelchair...
> >
> > Anyway, his hand strength and coordination suck. He's fine being able to
> > reload a revolver (duh) but has a helluva time reloading magazines for a
> > semi-auto. Don't know why he wants to bother but when I ask him he
> > replies "because I want one". <G>
> >
> > The slide on his current Springfield 9mm is too hard for him to pull
> > back but he has no problem with my SW9VE. He plans to trade in his
> > springfield for something he can actually cock.
> >
> > But he can't put more than 2 bullets into one of my magazines, and that
> > just barely. :-(
> >
> > I can't make him change his mind needless to say, but I recall reading
> > somewhere about a speed loader for semi-auto pistol magazines. I'm
> > trying to google it but having very poor luck doing so.
> >
> > I'm wondering if such a thing really exists, if my memory is simply
> > faulty.
> >
> > Surely there are alternatives for the handicapped?
>
> There are lots of ways a person with various handicaps can use firearms.
> But, to be honest with you, based on your description, I'm glad I live in a
> different state than your friend.
>
> David

<smiles> I know what you mean... ;-)
He actually _can_ hit a target. He just has hand weakness and slight
lack of coordination. Loading a magazine takes a decent amount of finger
strength. Hell, even as strong as my hands are, I have to put a lot of
effort into loading the 16th round into a 16 round magazine. But, I can
do it.

His aim is actually pretty decent and he hits the proper area of the
target for the most part.

He has high hopes that the IV Glutathione therapy will help him.

Degenerative autoimmune diseases suck. :-(

Meanwhile, I had a good day at the range today! They got a new range
master that is taking better care of the backdrops and has cleaned up
most of the brass finally. It was getting hard to walk on the range!

He also holds tactical training late Monday and Tuesday afternoons and
has invited me to join the classes. I'll probably check it out when I'm
on vacation the end of this month. If it looks good, I'll have to
reverse my normal sleep schedule on those two days if I decide it's
worthwhile.

It probably will be considering the classes are attended by some local
SWAT guys... It's been frustrating reading about stuff I "should" be
doing for personal training, but could not do due to the lack of
facilities. He's talking about building a local tactical range, complete
with kill houses.

He's also agreed to give me a private lesson next Saturday morning on
operating that Mossberg. Turns out they have a couple of skeet throwers
at that range that I was unaware of. :-)

And, the icing on the cake, when I went in to register at the desk
today, they had gotten in some special deal on some 158 gr. Remington
JHP's in .40, boxes of 50. They were selling them for $10.00 per box.

;-) ;-) ;-)
--
Peace, Om

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In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
> >you are using. :-(
>
> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.

That's illegal.......

So, no comment. <lol>
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>
>> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
>> >you are using. :-(
>>
>> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>
>That's illegal.......

Say's who?

>
>So, no comment. <lol>

In article <nh53j2lc9bga3o591iff7tficbmh6c0tde@4ax.com>,
John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
> >> >you are using. :-(
> >>
> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
> >
> >That's illegal.......
>
> Say's who?

Texas CHL laws.
Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up now
for 25 hours...

I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range while
SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class that
you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.

At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:45:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>In article <nh53j2lc9bga3o591iff7tficbmh6c0tde@4ax.com>,
> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
>> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
>> >> >you are using. :-(
>> >>
>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>> >
>> >That's illegal.......
>>
>> Say's who?
>
>Texas CHL laws.
>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up now
>for 25 hours...
>
>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range while
>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class that
>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>
>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.

There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg

"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote in message

> There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
> at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
> who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
> http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg

My lab can't hold her liquor worth a damn.

In article <2793j2lsc68i1q2hmrnuhbc0rld7hblk35@4ax.com>,
John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:45:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
> >In article <nh53j2lc9bga3o591iff7tficbmh6c0tde@4ax.com>,
> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> >> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
> >>
> >> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
> >> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what
> >> >> >gun
> >> >> >you are using. :-(
> >> >>
> >> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
> >> >
> >> >That's illegal.......
> >>
> >> Say's who?
> >
> >Texas CHL laws.
> >Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up now
> >for 25 hours...
> >
> >I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range while
> >SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class that
> >you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
> >
> >At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>
> There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
> at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
> who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
> http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg

Sorry, you are correct. :-)
They've just been tied together in my brain lately...
My bad.

I personally don't drink at the range. I'm leery of the whole
"judgment impairment" thing and mistakes with guns are generally pretty
unforgiving.......

But, that's just me. If it works for you, cool!

I'll save my drinking during sports for sitting on a shaded bank with a
hook and worm in the water.......
--
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:06:16 -0500, John Hanson
<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:45:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
><omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
>>In article <nh53j2lc9bga3o591iff7tficbmh6c0tde@4ax.com>,
>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
>>> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>>
>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>>> >>
>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>>> >
>>> >That's illegal.......
>>>
>>> Say's who?
>>
>>Texas CHL laws.
>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up now
>>for 25 hours...
>>
>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range while
>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class that
>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>>
>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>
>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg

Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.

--
Is this thing on?

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:04:44 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:06:16 -0500, John Hanson
><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:45:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
>><omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>>>In article <nh53j2lc9bga3o591iff7tficbmh6c0tde@4ax.com>,
>>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
>>>> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>>>
>>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what gun
>>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>>>> >
>>>> >That's illegal.......
>>>>
>>>> Say's who?
>>>
>>>Texas CHL laws.
>>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up now
>>>for 25 hours...
>>>
>>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range while
>>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class that
>>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>>>
>>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>>
>>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
>
>Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.

Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
who imbibes an unfair advantage.

In article <1et4j2dvr7ph0k1ilud4473743akh71i0q@4ax.com>,
John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:04:44 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
> >On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:06:16 -0500, John Hanson
> ><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:45:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> >><omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
> >>
> >>>In article <nh53j2lc9bga3o591iff7tficbmh6c0tde@4ax.com>,
> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> >>>> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
> >>>>
> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what
> >>>> >> >gun
> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >That's illegal.......
> >>>>
> >>>> Say's who?
> >>>
> >>>Texas CHL laws.
> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up now
> >>>for 25 hours...
> >>>
> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range while
> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class that
> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
> >>>
> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
> >>
> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
> >
> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
>
> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
> who imbibes an unfair advantage.

<lol>
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:43:47 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>In article <1et4j2dvr7ph0k1ilud4473743akh71i0q@4ax.com>,
> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:04:44 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
>> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>> >On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:06:16 -0500, John Hanson
>> ><jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:45:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
>> >><omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>> >>
>> >>>In article <nh53j2lc9bga3o591iff7tficbmh6c0tde@4ax.com>,
>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:56:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
>> >>>> <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter what
>> >>>> >> >gun
>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Say's who?
>> >>>
>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up now
>> >>>for 25 hours...
>> >>>
>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range while
>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class that
>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>> >>>
>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>> >>
>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
>> >
>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
>>
>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
>
><lol>

I'm not joking.

"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>> Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote
>>> > John Hanson<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>> >>OmManiPadmeOmelet<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter
>>> >>>> >> >what
>>> >>>> >> >gun
>>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Say's who?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
>>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up
>>> >>>now
>>> >>>for 25 hours...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range
>>> >>>while
>>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class
>>> >>>that
>>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>>> >>
>>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
>>> >
>>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
>>>
>>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
>>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
>>
>><lol>
>
> I'm not joking.

Makes sense physiologically. Up to some individually variable blood alcohol
level, performance in shooting would improve due to relaxation, better
breath control, decreased recoil anticipation, etcetera. Above that level, I
suspect performance would fall off rapidly.

Biathalete In A Bottle.

David

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:57:55 GMT, "David Cohen"
<sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>
>"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>> Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote
>>>> > John Hanson<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>> >>OmManiPadmeOmelet<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>>>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter
>>>> >>>> >> >what
>>>> >>>> >> >gun
>>>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Say's who?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
>>>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up
>>>> >>>now
>>>> >>>for 25 hours...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range
>>>> >>>while
>>>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class
>>>> >>>that
>>>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>>>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>>>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>>>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
>>>> >
>>>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
>>>>
>>>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
>>>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
>>>
>>><lol>
>>
>> I'm not joking.
>
>Makes sense physiologically. Up to some individually variable blood alcohol
>level, performance in shooting would improve due to relaxation, better
>breath control, decreased recoil anticipation, etcetera. Above that level, I
>suspect performance would fall off rapidly.

I have anecdotal evidence that says you are correct.

>
>Biathalete In A Bottle.
>
>David
>

"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote
>>"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>> Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote
>>>>> > John Hanson<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>OmManiPadmeOmelet<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>>>>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no
>>>>> >>>> >> >matter
>>>>> >>>> >> >what
>>>>> >>>> >> >gun
>>>>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Say's who?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
>>>>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up
>>>>> >>>now
>>>>> >>>for 25 hours...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range
>>>>> >>>while
>>>>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class
>>>>> >>>that
>>>>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>>>>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>>>>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>>>>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
>>>>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
>>>>
>>>><lol>
>>>
>>> I'm not joking.
>>
>>Makes sense physiologically. Up to some individually variable blood
>>alcohol
>>level, performance in shooting would improve due to relaxation, better
>>breath control, decreased recoil anticipation, etcetera. Above that level,
>>I
>>suspect performance would fall off rapidly.
>
> I have anecdotal evidence that says you are correct.

The Inebriated Olympics might be interesting. All competitors have to drink
an amount of alcohol based on body weight, then compete. I'd pay to watch
that.

David

In article <erc5j29s6767mgme7ovv0ukp25ladv6dgm@4ax.com>,
John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:57:55 GMT, "David Cohen"
> <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
> >
> >"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>> Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote
> >>>> > John Hanson<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>OmManiPadmeOmelet<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
> >>>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter
> >>>> >>>> >> >what
> >>>> >>>> >> >gun
> >>>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
> >>>> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
> >>>> >>>> >
> >>>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Say's who?
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
> >>>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up
> >>>> >>>now
> >>>> >>>for 25 hours...
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range
> >>>> >>>while
> >>>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class
> >>>> >>>that
> >>>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
> >>>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
> >>>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
> >>>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
> >>>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
> >>>
> >>><lol>
> >>
> >> I'm not joking.
> >
> >Makes sense physiologically. Up to some individually variable blood alcohol
> >level, performance in shooting would improve due to relaxation, better
> >breath control, decreased recoil anticipation, etcetera. Above that level, I
> >suspect performance would fall off rapidly.
>
> I have anecdotal evidence that says you are correct.
>

Post some targets please? :-)
--
Peace, Om

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In article <nkzYg.7561$Lv3.4588@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote
> >>"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
> >>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote
> >>>>> > John Hanson<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >>OmManiPadmeOmelet<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
> >>>>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no
> >>>>> >>>> >> >matter
> >>>>> >>>> >> >what
> >>>>> >>>> >> >gun
> >>>>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
> >>>>> >>>> >>
> >>>>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
> >>>>> >>>> >
> >>>>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Say's who?
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
> >>>>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up
> >>>>> >>>now
> >>>>> >>>for 25 hours...
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range
> >>>>> >>>while
> >>>>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class
> >>>>> >>>that
> >>>>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
> >>>>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
> >>>>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
> >>>>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
> >>>>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
> >>>>
> >>>><lol>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not joking.
> >>
> >>Makes sense physiologically. Up to some individually variable blood
> >>alcohol
> >>level, performance in shooting would improve due to relaxation, better
> >>breath control, decreased recoil anticipation, etcetera. Above that level,
> >>I
> >>suspect performance would fall off rapidly.
> >
> > I have anecdotal evidence that says you are correct.
>
> The Inebriated Olympics might be interesting. All competitors have to drink
> an amount of alcohol based on body weight, then compete. I'd pay to watch
> that.
>
> David

Heh! So would I!
--
Peace, Om

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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:58:06 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>In article <erc5j29s6767mgme7ovv0ukp25ladv6dgm@4ax.com>,
> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:57:55 GMT, "David Cohen"
>> <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>> >
>> >"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
>> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote
>> >>>> > John Hanson<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>OmManiPadmeOmelet<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>> >>>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>> >>>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no matter
>> >>>> >>>> >> >what
>> >>>> >>>> >> >gun
>> >>>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>> >>>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>> >>>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>> Say's who?
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
>> >>>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up
>> >>>> >>>now
>> >>>> >>>for 25 hours...
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range
>> >>>> >>>while
>> >>>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class
>> >>>> >>>that
>> >>>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>> >>>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>> >>>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>> >>>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
>> >>>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
>> >>>
>> >>><lol>
>> >>
>> >> I'm not joking.
>> >
>> >Makes sense physiologically. Up to some individually variable blood alcohol
>> >level, performance in shooting would improve due to relaxation, better
>> >breath control, decreased recoil anticipation, etcetera. Above that level, I
>> >suspect performance would fall off rapidly.
>>
>> I have anecdotal evidence that says you are correct.
>>
>
>Post some targets please? :-)

I suppose I could post a picture of the dime I shot at 100 yards with
an SKS or the shotshell that I shot from 100 yards from the sitting
position with a .22-250. I had three number 8 shotshells lined up 3/4
of an inch apart. I shot the base of the center one, hitting the
primer which in turn fired all three shotshells. Then there was the
time that I shot a swinging target that was about 2" X 4" in dimension
(it was a peg off a kid's bicycle), 5 straight times with a .30-06.
Plus I hit 30 straight clays in a competition between me and three of
my buddies. All after I had been drinking and all at my buddy Tim's
house. There were witnesses to all of those feats.

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:17:39 GMT, "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote
>>>"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote
>>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote
>>>>>> > John Hanson<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>OmManiPadmeOmelet<omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> >>> John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp.omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> >>>> >In article <8rs2j21abm3tkqrdnl3bpf7bu2ic093rtf@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> >>>> > John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >Shooting "under the influence" is never a good idea, no
>>>>>> >>>> >> >matter
>>>>>> >>>> >> >what
>>>>>> >>>> >> >gun
>>>>>> >>>> >> >you are using. :-(
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> I've done some of my best shooting under the influence.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >That's illegal.......
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Say's who?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Texas CHL laws.
>>>>>> >>>Can't find the specific statute, too tired to google. I've been up
>>>>>> >>>now
>>>>>> >>>for 25 hours...
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>I'll grant you, you can probably shoot all you want at the range
>>>>>> >>>while
>>>>>> >>>SUI, (shooting under the influence) but I recall from my CHL class
>>>>>> >>>that
>>>>>> >>>you cannot carry a concealed firearm while drunk.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>At the very least, you will lose your CCW if you get caught.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>There is a big difference between shooting and carrying. There were
>>>>>> >>at least 400 rounds of ammo fired Saturday afternoon by three of us
>>>>>> >>who were all drinking. It was all done right here:
>>>>>> >>http://www.fitnwell.net/John%20Hanson%202.jpg
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Impaired judgment and guns really ought not go together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alcohol is a banned substance in shooting because it gives the shooter
>>>>>> who imbibes an unfair advantage.
>>>>>
>>>>><lol>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not joking.
>>>
>>>Makes sense physiologically. Up to some individually variable blood
>>>alcohol
>>>level, performance in shooting would improve due to relaxation, better
>>>breath control, decreased recoil anticipation, etcetera. Above that level,
>>>I
>>>suspect performance would fall off rapidly.
>>
>> I have anecdotal evidence that says you are correct.
>
>The Inebriated Olympics might be interesting. All competitors have to drink
>an amount of alcohol based on body weight, then compete. I'd pay to watch
>that.

Here, that competition is better known as "Rush Hour".

(How many members of the Tongan royal family have been killed on YOUR roads this year?)

In article <8ikoj2lio5o0b5bs3gddcea231pbf6e8da@4ax.com>,
Lucas Buck <sbcpark@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:

> >The Inebriated Olympics might be interesting. All competitors have to drink
> >an amount of alcohol based on body weight, then compete. I'd pay to watch
> >that.
>
> Here, that competition is better known as "Rush Hour".

<snort> Ain't that the truth?

There is a good reason I've never seriously tried to get a job in
Austin... Morning traffic is a bitch!

Not worth it even if Austin pays more for the most part.
--
Peace, Om

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