How much mimimum should I spend to get a cardio machcine

#1 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.

So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.

Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
tables.

Any recommendation what to get?

#2 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

In article <1173385240.280345.33510@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> tables.
>
> Any recommendation what to get?
>

1. Internet search on 5BX or 10BX plan - free.

2. Skipping rope.

--
Keith

#3 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

In article <1173385240.280345.33510@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> tables.
>
> Any recommendation what to get?
>

Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.

I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.

--
Keith

#4 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> writes:

> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get
> a bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go
> to gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.

If you don't need bells and whistles, and you already have a gym
membership then I would suggest leaving out the bench entirely and
just getting a set of adjustable dumbbells.

You really only need the bench for bench presses and those can easily
be replaced with pushups. As an added bonus you are less likely to
hurt your shoulder with pushups. If you can't do a pushup just touch
your knees to the ground and do partials. If you need more resistance
work up to one armed pushups.

The dumbbells will allow you to do rows, overhead presses, goblet
squats, lunges, and any number of serious strength movements that
require external weight. Dumbbells are also easy to store.

> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the
> gym.

Take Hobbes suggestion and run stairs or skip rope.

> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2
> end tables.

I personally think that weight lifting benches are very attractive as
furniture

.

> Any recommendation what to get?

Start with dumbbells and a good jump rope.

Jason

#5 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <1173385240.280345.33...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
>
> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> > bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> > gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> > So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> > ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> > Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> > only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> > tables.
>
> > Any recommendation what to get?
>
> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>
> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.

Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.

I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>
> --
> Keith

#6 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
> On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
>> > bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
>> > gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>>
>> > So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
>> > ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>>
>> > Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
>> > only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
>> > tables.
>>
>> > Any recommendation what to get?
>>
>> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>>
>> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
> home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

Either are the pro boxers who jump rope.

Here's my suggestion: http://www.fastexercise.com/

Jason Earl and I highly recommend it.

David

#7 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:

> On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In article <1173385240.280345.33...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
>>
>> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
>>> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
>>> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>>
>>> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
>>> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>>
>>> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
>>> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
>>> tables.
>>
>>> Any recommendation what to get?
>>
>> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>>
>> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence

What do you do? I used to work in the Milpitas, Walnut Creek, and Berkley.

> home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

--Sir Jackery

#8 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 1:50 pm, Jason Earl <j...@xmission.com> wrote:
> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> writes:
> > I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get
> > a bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go
> > to gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> If you don't need bells and whistles, and you already have a gym
> membership then I would suggest leaving out the bench entirely and
> just getting a set of adjustable dumbbells.
>
> You really only need the bench for bench presses and those can easily
> be replaced with pushups. As an added bonus you are less likely to
> hurt your shoulder with pushups. If you can't do a pushup just touch
> your knees to the ground and do partials. If you need more resistance
> work up to one armed pushups.

I can start out that way ...

>
> The dumbbells will allow you to do rows,

Wouldn't a bench be good to have to do rows?
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...ntOverRow.html

>overhead presses, goblet squats, lunges, and any number of serious
> strength movements that require external weight. Dumbbells are also
> easy to store.

>
> > So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> > ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the
> > gym.
>
> Take Hobbes suggestion and run stairs or skip rope.

I am not going to run the stairs in apartment building. I don't even
go for a walk in my beighborhood so that no one would know that I live
here. I am scared ...from too much local news of rape and stuff.

And I hate jumping rope. I have a nasal condition (not from allergy)
and that gets internal equilibrium (presure in era, nose) imblanced
easily and I am not comfortable with jumping movement.

>
> > Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> > only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2
> > end tables.
>
> I personally think that weight lifting benches are very attractive as
> furniture

.

Me too

>
> > Any recommendation what to get?
>
> Start with dumbbells and a good jump rope.

I'll start with dumbell (but want to get into barbell). Can you not
think of anything for cardio that's not expensive? I won't rush and
buy but I want to know..about those.

>
> Jason

#9 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

In article <1173391167.165993.241480@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups .com>,
"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article <1173385240.280345.33...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
> >
> > "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> > > bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> > > gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
> >
> > > So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> > > ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
> >
> > > Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> > > only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> > > tables.
> >
> > > Any recommendation what to get?
> >
> > Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
> >
> > I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
> home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

> >
> > --
> > Keith
>
>

Wasn't trying to be funny. Try doing a set of 500 bodyweight full
squats. Then tell me why you need a machine to look after your cardio.

I keep a couple of dumbbells and a couple of kettlebells (adjustable
handles, Steve) at my home and a pull-up bar I can use in the doorway.
That's all. I compete at weightlifting and have been a competitive
powerlifter. I like to kayak in the summer, but needing anything fancy
for cardio - you don't.

If you have no motivation or determination the machine won't supply it
for you.

--
Keith

#10 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

In article <1173392170.614561.222360@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups .com>,
"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I'll start with dumbell (but want to get into barbell). Can you not
> think of anything for cardio that's not expensive? I won't rush and
> buy but I want to know..about those.

Free.

http://www.cbass.com/Furey.htm

(You can do regular squats instead of hindu, knee push-ups and backbends
- the point is bodyweight makes an excellent training tool).

--
Keith

#11 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 2:10 pm, Sir Jackery <roeh...@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:
> > On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> In article <1173385240.280345.33...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
>
> >> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> >>> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> >>> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> >>> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> >>> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> >>> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> >>> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> >>> tables.
>
> >>> Any recommendation what to get?
>
> >> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>
> >> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> > Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> > stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> > I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> > years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
>
> What do you do?
I was a chemist and now in IT (w/o much experience but that will have
to change). At the moment I do different things because I get
sidetracked living near family.

> I used to work in the Milpitas, Walnut Creek, and Berkley.
What did you do there? IT? Engineering? Biotech?

I just got to know SF Bay Area well enoguh that now I feel comfortable
to move there + my health is back to normal (had a surgery (which may
not have been necessry) but at the same time was diagnosed with a
nasal condition which were already taking a toll on me because of the
climate and industrial poluttion where I was living)
>
> > home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> > dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> > doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> > I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>
> --Sir Jackery

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#12 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 2:08 pm, "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> >> > bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> >> > gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> >> > So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> >> > ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> >> > Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> >> > only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> >> > tables.
>
> >> > Any recommendation what to get?
>
> >> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>
> >> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> > Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> > stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> > I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> > years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
> > home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> > dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> > doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> > I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>
> Either are the pro boxers who jump rope.
>
> Here's my suggestion:http://www.fastexercise.com/

You are no help. How about a stair master or something like that so
that I can watch some news on TV too not that the US media gives any
news anyway? Or I'll watch some dumb TV sitcoms.

>
> Jason Earl and I highly recommend it.
>
> David- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

#13 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 2:49 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <1173392170.614561.222...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups .com>,
>
> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I'll start with dumbell (but want to get into barbell). Can you not
> > think of anything for cardio that's not expensive? I won't rush and
> > buy but I want to know..about those.
>
> Free.
>
> http://www.cbass.com/Furey.htm
>
> (You can do regular squats instead of hindu, knee push-ups and backbends
> - the point is bodyweight makes an excellent training tool).

I have been using weight machines at the gym and body weight would be
boring.
Beside, I need to get strong *seriously* now that I sit a lot unlike
in Chemistry where I was on my feet all day long.

Beside, can I spend some money ...please?

>
> --
> Keith

#14 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

mm wrote:

> On Mar 8, 2:08 pm, "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>>
>> Either are the pro boxers who jump rope.
>>
>> Here's my suggestion:http://www.fastexercise.com/
>
> You are no help. How about a stair master or something like that so
> that I can watch some news on TV too not that the US media gives any
> news anyway? Or I'll watch some dumb TV sitcoms.

How about TV swings? If you get really good at those, you could
want to progress to some Russian heavy duty tactical TVs.

--
Andrzej Rosa

#15 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:

> On Mar 8, 2:10 pm, Sir Jackery <roeh...@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:
>>> On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <1173385240.280345.33...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
>>
>>>> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
>>>>> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
>>>>> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>>
>>>>> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
>>>>> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>>
>>>>> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
>>>>> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
>>>>> tables.
>>
>>>>> Any recommendation what to get?
>>
>>>> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>>
>>>> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>>
>>> Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
>>> stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
>>> I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
>>> years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
>>
>> What do you do?
> I was a chemist and now in IT (w/o much experience but that will have
> to change). At the moment I do different things because I get
> sidetracked living near family.

I always thought chemistry would be a fun career.

>
>
>> I used to work in the Milpitas, Walnut Creek, and Berkley.
> What did you do there? IT? Engineering? Biotech?

I worked as a Sr. UNIX/Network web systems administrator for a few
startups and taught advanced UNIX at Silicon Valley College as well
as performed their campus-wide network administration duties. I have since
returned to education and am now studying computer science at UC Davis.

> I just got to know SF Bay Area well enoguh that now I feel comfortable
> to move there + my health is back to normal (had a surgery (which may
> not have been necessry) but at the same time was diagnosed with a
> nasal condition which were already taking a toll on me because of the
> climate and industrial poluttion where I was living)

Where were you living? The climate in the bay area is nice. If you are
looking for exercise equipment in the bay area you can't beat craigslist.
Many people purchase expensive equipment during short stints of motivation
and end up selling them for pennies on the dollar after they collect dust
for a year or so. A lot of people even give their old weightlifting
equipment away because the area is so saturated with available used
equipment.

>>
>>> home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
>>> dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
>>> doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>>
>>> I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>>
>> --Sir Jackery
>
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>>
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#16 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> mm wrote:
>
>> On Mar 8, 2:08 pm, "David Cohen" <sammies...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>>>
>>> Either are the pro boxers who jump rope.
>>>
>>> Here's my suggestion:http://www.fastexercise.com/
>>
>> You are no help. How about a stair master or something like that so
>> that I can watch some news on TV too not that the US media gives any
>> news anyway? Or I'll watch some dumb TV sitcoms.
>
> How about TV swings? If you get really good at those, you could
> want to progress to some Russian heavy duty tactical TVs.

CURT!

tom

--
Yulava? Niob Yam!

#17 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:

> On Mar 8, 1:50 pm, Jason Earl <j...@xmission.com> wrote:
>> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership.
>>
>> If you don't need bells and whistles, and you already have a gym
>> membership then I would suggest leaving out the bench entirely and
>> just getting a set of adjustable dumbbells.
>
> Wouldn't a bench be good to have to do rows?

Those are done with a bench because it's usually the first thing that
comes to hand in a gym. You can use anything about that height.

In fact, i do (or did) them leaning on the dumbbell rack; the benches were
oversubscribed, but there was always a free end of the rack to lean on. I
did them with both feet planted on the floor, rather than with one leg
kneeling, with my supporting arm out in front of me, lifting the weight
sort of in the middle of the triangle formed by my feet and arm (not quite
- to one side; i realise this description is hopeless).

So what i'm saying is that you can use a stool or something. Absolutely no
problem.

>>> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
>>> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>>
>> Take Hobbes suggestion and run stairs or skip rope.
>
> I am not going to run the stairs in apartment building.

Why not?

> I don't even go for a walk in my beighborhood so that no one would know
> that I live here. I am scared ...from too much local news of rape and
> stuff.

Do you actually live in a terrible area, or have you just fallen victim to
the hysterical atmosphere of fear which pervades western society? The
world is probably a lot less dangerous than you think.

> And I hate jumping rope. I have a nasal condition (not from allergy) and
> that gets internal equilibrium (presure in era, nose) imblanced easily
> and I am not comfortable with jumping movement.

Pushbike and a static trainer, then. Or just do 'body pump' style fast,
low-weight (possibly bodyweight) lifting.

tom

--
Yulava? Niob Yam!

#18 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>>
>> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
>Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
>stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
>I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
>years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
>home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
>dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
>doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
>I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

Really? Your strategic life plan sounds pretty adolescent.

#19 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 3:42 pm, Sir Jackery <roeh...@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:
> > On Mar 8, 2:10 pm, Sir Jackery <roeh...@cs.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:
> >>> On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> In article <1173385240.280345.33...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
>
> >>>> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> >>>>> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> >>>>> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> >>>>> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> >>>>> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> >>>>> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> >>>>> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> >>>>> tables.
>
> >>>>> Any recommendation what to get?
>
> >>>> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>
> >>>> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> >>> Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> >>> stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> >>> I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> >>> years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
>
> >> What do you do?
> > I was a chemist and now in IT (w/o much experience but that will have
> > to change). At the moment I do different things because I get
> > sidetracked living near family.
>
> I always thought chemistry would be a fun career.

Not fun when the industry doesn't care neough to keep the ait clean
inside + one has to commute to polluted area.

>
> >> I used to work in the Milpitas, Walnut Creek, and Berkley.
> > What did you do there? IT? Engineering? Biotech?
>
> I worked as a Sr. UNIX/Network web systems administrator for a few
> startups and taught advanced UNIX at Silicon Valley College as well
> as performed their campus-wide network administration duties. I have since
> returned to education and am now studying computer science at UC Davis.

So you already got the experience and now studying. I am the
opposite ..because I was a furriner and there was no other way to
maintian visa and stuff...

>
> > I just got to know SF Bay Area well enoguh that now I feel comfortable
> > to move there + my health is back to normal (had a surgery (which may
> > not have been necessry) but at the same time was diagnosed with a
> > nasal condition which were already taking a toll on me because of the
> > climate and industrial poluttion where I was living)
>
> Where were you living?

Texas

> The climate in the bay area is nice. If you are
> looking for exercise equipment in the bay area you can't beat craigslist.

I am 2 hr away from Bay Area and about 35 mins from Davis. Can you
solve the puzzle w/o saying out loud?

> Many people purchase expensive equipment during short stints of motivation
> and end up selling them for pennies on the dollar after they collect dust
> for a year or so.

I won't do (well) that. Mine is a requirement. After I left school
the first time around, it was hard for me to do *any* exercise due to
commute and at the second school, the gym was being remodelled (but I
was too sick anyway).

>A lot of people even give their old weightlifting equipment away because the area is so
> saturated with available used equipment.
By the time I reached there, someone would have gotten it. I am going
to SF tomorrow thoguh. So I'l look on craigslist and see what I can
find over there.

>
> >>> home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> >>> dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> >>> doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> >>> I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>
> >> --Sir Jackery
>
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#20 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

BTW,

I am gathering exercises using dumbell (and some barbell) for all
muscle groups. May be I won't get a bench; you got me worried about
the space. I must move to Bay Area ..even if it is for a few years. I
want to get into to IT area in Pharma industry to combine w/
Chemistry...

#21 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 4:04 pm, Tom Anderson <t...@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, mm wrote:
> > On Mar 8, 1:50 pm, Jason Earl <j...@xmission.com> wrote:
> >> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >>> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership.
>
> >> If you don't need bells and whistles, and you already have a gym
> >> membership then I would suggest leaving out the bench entirely and
> >> just getting a set of adjustable dumbbells.
>
> > Wouldn't a bench be good to have to do rows?
>
> Those are done with a bench because it's usually the first thing that
> comes to hand in a gym. You can use anything about that height.
>
> In fact, i do (or did) them leaning on the dumbbell rack; the benches were
> oversubscribed, but there was always a free end of the rack to lean on. I
> did them with both feet planted on the floor, rather than with one leg
> kneeling, with my supporting arm out in front of me, lifting the weight
> sort of in the middle of the triangle formed by my feet and arm (not quite
> - to one side; i realise this description is hopeless).
>
> So what i'm saying is that you can use a stool or something. Absolutely no
> problem.
>
> >>> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> >>> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> >> Take Hobbes suggestion and run stairs or skip rope.
>
> > I am not going to run the stairs in apartment building.
>
> Why not?
>
> > I don't even go for a walk in my beighborhood so that no one would know
> > that I live here. I am scared ...from too much local news of rape and
> > stuff.
>
> Do you actually live in a terrible area, or have you just fallen victim to
> the hysterical atmosphere of fear which pervades western society?

The latter but I am not taking any chances, not after I saw a news
piece where a female lawyer was raped by her upstairs neighbor (who
knocked on her door for salt) and shot and left to die but she
managed to reac the phone, and survived.

> The world is probably a lot less dangerous than you think.
It only takes once to get messed up.

>
> > And I hate jumping rope. I have a nasal condition (not from allergy) and
> > that gets internal equilibrium (presure in era, nose) imblanced easily
> > and I am not comfortable with jumping movement.
>
> Pushbike and a static trainer, then. Or just do 'body pump' style fast,
> low-weight (possibly bodyweight) lifting.

I guess..those are my options.

>
> tom
>
> --
> Yulava? Niob Yam!

#22 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 2:44 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <1173391167.165993.241...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups .com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 8, 12:41 pm, Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > In article <1173385240.280345.33...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
>
> > > "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> > > > bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> > > > gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> > > > So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> > > > ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> > > > Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> > > > only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> > > > tables.
>
> > > > Any recommendation what to get?
>
> > > Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>
> > > I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> > Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> > stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> > I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> > years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
> > home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> > dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> > doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> > I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>
> > > --
> > > Keith
>
> Wasn't trying to be funny. Try doing a set of 500 bodyweight full
> squats. Then tell me why you need a machine to look after your cardio.

I don't want to my quadricep big. Squat would do that, wouldn't it?

>
> I keep a couple of dumbbells and a couple of kettlebells (adjustable
> handles, Steve) at my home and a pull-up bar I can use in the doorway.
> That's all. I compete at weightlifting and have been a competitive
> powerlifter. I like to kayak in the summer, but needing anything fancy
> for cardio - you don't.

I am not creative like you when it comes to exercises. Beside, I want
to watch TV while doing some cardio.

>
> If you have no motivation or determination the machine won't supply it
> for you.
>
A cardio machine would be enticing..to motivate.

> --
> Keith- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

#23 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

On Mar 8, 5:01 pm, JMW <jmwilli...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>
> >> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>
> >Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
> >stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
> >I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
> >years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
> >home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
> >dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
> >doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>
> >I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>
> Really? Your strategic life plan sounds pretty adolescent.

Whatever.

You don't have my experience espeically about life. You didn't cross
the pacific and struggled in a new country in a new culture... and
alone.

You don't live my life, I live my life.

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>
> - Show quoted text -

#24 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
> JMW <jmwilli...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Hobbes <khobman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Oh. And if your apartment has stairs that would about be all required.
>>
>> >> I think you should spend a minimum of $0 and a maximum of $0.
>>
>> >Very funny..not. The idea is that I'd get really busy - I have a
>> >stategic plan to get a job that should stress me out so much that all
>> >I'd have time to do is eat, sleep and work, at least for the first 2-3
>> >years and I need to make sure I don't skip on ezericisng - and hence
>> >home equipment are a must. I'd be in SF Bay Area - let's say it's a
>> >dream to get otu fot here and move there - where IT jobs are and I
>> >doubt that I'd have a place with stairs insid emya partment.
>>
>> >I don't like ropes. I am not a 13 year old anymore

>>
>> Really? Your strategic life plan sounds pretty adolescent.
>
> Whatever.
>
> You don't have my experience espeically about life. You didn't cross
> the pacific and struggled in a new country in a new culture... and
> alone.

<cue Paul Robeson> "Nobody knows da' troubles ah's seen. Nobody knows mah
sorrows..."

David

#25 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> I am not creative like you when it comes to exercises. Beside, I want
> to watch TV while doing some cardio.
>
Champion CX100 spin bike, Costco, $550. Makes no noise and is almost like
riding a real bike.

#26 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM

"mm" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173385240.280345.33510@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
>I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> tables.
>
> Any recommendation what to get?

There are too many choices. A jump rope really _is_ a good choice.
Another choice, if you have a bicycle, is an indoor trainer, basically
something that attaches to your bicycle and allows you to ride it in
place. You can use a bike you have, that fits you, that you like,
etc., and a few hundred dollars gets you a good one. You're worried
about your quads getting big doing bodyweight squats? Hah, you should
be so fortunate. Bodyweight exercises can build excellent strength and
conditioning.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

#27 03-10-2007, 04:50 AM

On Mar 8, 8:03 pm, "Steve Freides" <s...@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
> "mm" <amanda772...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173385240.280345.33510@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> >I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> > bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> > gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> > So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> > ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> > Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> > only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> > tables.
>
> > Any recommendation what to get?
>
> There are too many choices. A jump rope really _is_ a good choice.
> Another choice, if you have a bicycle, is an indoor trainer, basically
> something that attaches to your bicycle and allows you to ride it in
> place. You can use a bike you have, that fits you, that you like,
> etc., and a few hundred dollars gets you a good one.

I need a brand name for that price range, please?

> You're worried about your quads getting big doing bodyweight squats? Hah, you
> should be so fortunate. Bodyweight exercises can build excellent strength and
> conditioning.

I meant w/ gree wieghts.

>
> -S-http://www.kbnj.com

#28 03-10-2007, 04:50 AM

In news:1173385240.280345.33510@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com,
mm <amanda772008@yahoo.com> typed:
> I don't need bells and whistle. I have a gym mebership. After I get a
> bench and free weights, I'll do strength trainging at home and go to
> gym to use ellipitcal (precor). I might try Cybex in the future.
>
> So basically, I need something decent to use to warm up for weight
> ligfting session as well as for cardio if I can't make it to the gym.
>
> Space is an issue as well; I'll be moving to an apartment. I'll keep
> only one sofa and a chair in my livign room +coffee table + 1 or 2 end
> tables.
>
> Any recommendation what to get?

http://www.concept2.com - look no further.

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