HST simplified...please

Shute wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:56:53 -0400, JMW
> <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Were you born like this, or did you experience a serious head trauma
>>at some point in your life?
>
>
> I excelled in all childhood aptitude tests. So if I am an idiot than
> 80% of the population is even more of an idiot than I. Perhaps you
> just can't keep up with me.
>
>

The 80% story is just a way to keep your parents from bashing your head
with a rock, anyone who gets accepted to a community college scored
between the 85th and 90th percentile. Any report below the 85th
percentile was probably reported as 80% to keep your parents from
putting you in a home.

"Tim Donohoe" <tdonohoe@aol.com> wrote
> JMW wrote:
>> Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> "JMW" <jmwilliams_56@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>I offered nothing more than a statement that I would use physical force
>>>>to defend myself if someone attempted to "put a boot up [my] arse."
>>>>Such actions are supported by the laws of my state and most others.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand, how do think the parents of the small children at
>>>>Foose Elementary School would feel about Mr. James, the quirky art
>>>>teacher with all the body piercings, riding his Harley to another state
>>>>solely for the purpose of attempting to goad a law enforcement officer
>>>>into physically defending himself? Is that the person they want
>>>>teaching their impressionable little boys and girls?
>>>
>>>So now you are law enforcement officer. Not even in the same branch
>>>of government as a lawyer. But then being a lawyer and all you should
>>>know that.
>>
>>
>> Being a lawyer, I know what Section 2901.01 of the Ohio Revised Code
>> states:
>>
>> (A) As used in the Revised Code:
>> * * *
>> (11) "Law enforcement officer" means any of the following: * * *
>> (h) A prosecuting attorney, assistant prosecuting attorney,
>> secret service officer, or municipal prosecutor[.]
>>
>> But please feel free to continue exposing your stupidity. It has
>> become a source of constant amusement.
>
> Try this: "Please don't hurt me Curt, I was just mouthing off because I am
> an asshole" Your real problem here is that Curt is being consistent and he
> already knows you are afraid of him. No matter how you try to change the
> subject you made your fake threats in public.

Uh...John was replying to Shute. Am I missing something? I often do.

David

Tim Donohoe <tdonohoe@aol.com> wrote:

>JMW wrote:
>
>> Tim Donohoe <tdonohoe@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>JMW wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On 24 Oct 2006 14:49:33 -0700, "JMW" <jmwilliams_56@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I offered nothing more than a statement that I would use physical force
>>>>>>to defend myself if someone attempted to "put a boot up [my] arse."
>>>>>>Such actions are supported by the laws of my state and most others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On the other hand, how do think the parents of the small children at
>>>>>>Foose Elementary School would feel about Mr. James, the quirky art
>>>>>>teacher with all the body piercings, riding his Harley to another state
>>>>>>solely for the purpose of attempting to goad a law enforcement officer
>>>>>>into physically defending himself? Is that the person they want
>>>>>>teaching their impressionable little boys and girls?
>>>>>
>>>>>So now you are law enforcement officer. Not even in the same branch
>>>>>of government as a lawyer. But then being a lawyer and all you should
>>>>>know that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Being a lawyer, I know what Section 2901.01 of the Ohio Revised Code
>>>>states:
>>>>
>>>>(A) As used in the Revised Code:
>>>>* * *
>>>> (11) "Law enforcement officer" means any of the following:
>>>>* * *
>>>> (h) A prosecuting attorney, assistant prosecuting attorney,
>>>>secret service officer, or municipal prosecutor[.]
>>>>
>>>>But please feel free to continue exposing your stupidity. It has
>>>>become a source of constant amusement.
>>>
>>>Try this: "Please don't hurt me Curt, I was just mouthing off because I
>>>am an asshole" Your real problem here is that Curt is being consistent
>>>and he already knows you are afraid of him. No matter how you try to
>>>change the subject you made your fake threats in public.
>>
>>
>> I guess you missed the point, Timmy, though I must admit that Curt
>> probably got it. I'm hardly afraid of Curt. It's being arrested for
>> pre-arranged mutual combat that I can't afford.
>>
>> However, I can legally challenge dipshits like you to take a piss into
>> a strong wind.
>
>You are a giant pussy, I can send my wife over to slap you silly if you
>aren't pumped up enough for a beating from a man. You are a weak cunt
>who wishes he had a mean streak. Plus, unlimited free time for google
>investigating.

Enough to peg you as a loudmouth Jersey asshole.

But please do send along your wife. She's probably tired of a husband
who's all talk, and maybe she needs a little action.

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:17:59 GMT, Tim Donohoe <tdonohoe@aol.com>
wrote:

>Shute wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:56:53 -0400, JMW
>> <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Were you born like this, or did you experience a serious head trauma
>>>at some point in your life?
>>
>>
>> I excelled in all childhood aptitude tests. So if I am an idiot than
>> 80% of the population is even more of an idiot than I. Perhaps you
>> just can't keep up with me.
>>
>>
>
>The 80% story is just a way to keep your parents from bashing your head
>with a rock, anyone who gets accepted to a community college scored
>between the 85th and 90th percentile. Any report below the 85th
>percentile was probably reported as 80% to keep your parents from
>putting you in a home.

Anyone can get into a community college where I grew up. Only about
40% actually finish. Your numbers sound ridiculous. All I can think
of is if you went to a special school where everyone passes and you
all get A's. Where I grew up people where more realistic. I think
anyone with a 60 percentile could get in and pass at community college
if they worked at it.

"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Matua" <matua@cherbro.com.au> wrote in message
> news:Egg0h.53894$rP1.33295@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Greig Blanchett" <greigb@nNzOrSfPu.AcMom> wrote in message
>> news:r921k21ar7rpmcc9gf520sg4b7g4v2dogf@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:41:08 +1000, "dechucka"
>>> <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>"JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:8lrvj2ti2t1gk5ei392gjsm5oe2scgsdqu@4ax.co m...
>>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The truth is I played one season, my senior year in college, or as
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> Brits say "at university." That was more than 25 years ago. I
>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>> played eighth man,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>eighth man? What position is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> After quickly Googling it, I believe the official Rugby Union
>>>>> reference is "Number 8." We called it "eightman," and based on some
>>>>> other things I've seen, it appears American rugby is now calling it
>>>>> "eighthman."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a reference:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.answers.com/topic/rugby-union-positions
>>>>>
>>>>> You couldn't figure that out?
>>>>
>>>>Here in Aus 25 years ago the position was called lock iirc the Poms or
>>>>NZers used to call it Number 8 but I never heard it called eigth man..
>>>>Interesting you than went onto play lock because once again 25 years ago
>>>>the
>>>>position I assume you are referring to was called 2nd row. It has change
>>>>comparatively recently to lock but I don't know where the idea to change
>>>>it
>>>>came from or what countries were previously using this terminology if
>>>>any.
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow I looked at your reference the position is Number 8 not eightman
>>>>and
>>>>as America is a member of the IRB I can't understand why they would call
>>>>it
>>>>something different
>>>>
>>> What the fuck are you on about now, you drug addled nimrod? The number
>>> 8 has been called the number 8 for at least 50 years in NZ and the
>>> same with locks (second row). The jaapies commonly call the number 8
>>> the eighth man and anybody with the odd firing synapse should be able
>>> to figure out the the fella with the big number 8 on his back, the guy
>>> they call the number 8, might conceivably be called the eighth man by
>>> some. Christ you talk some garbage.
>>>
>>> And what the fuck has the IRB got to do with the price of kettles? The
>>> only thing they've standardised is the numbers and even then, the
>>> jaapies swap their 6's and 7's. You'd have a hard time convincing
>>> Kiwis to give up their fractions for inside this and outside that. As
>>> God ordained, the backline is, was, and shall be fractions from half
>>> back to full back. Hence first 5/8th, second 5/8th, centre 3/4, wing
>>> 3/4 and so on.
>>>
>>> I think you'd best tell Mrs Warne that that last batch of
>>> sharpener-uppers hasn't done the trick - has she got anything
>>> stronger? Tell her you're in need of a Tune-up. She'll know what to
>>> do.
>>>
>>> --
>>> greig
>>
>> He he he he, you betcha!
>>
>> Matua.
>
> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping

He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.

>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>
> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.

Once again it only "he" with you
>
>

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:35:12 -0400, JMW
<jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>Tim Donohoe <tdonohoe@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>JMW wrote:
>>
>>> Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 24 Oct 2006 14:49:33 -0700, "JMW" <jmwilliams_56@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I offered nothing more than a statement that I would use physical force
>>>>>to defend myself if someone attempted to "put a boot up [my] arse."
>>>>>Such actions are supported by the laws of my state and most others.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the other hand, how do think the parents of the small children at
>>>>>Foose Elementary School would feel about Mr. James, the quirky art
>>>>>teacher with all the body piercings, riding his Harley to another state
>>>>>solely for the purpose of attempting to goad a law enforcement officer
>>>>>into physically defending himself? Is that the person they want
>>>>>teaching their impressionable little boys and girls?
>>>>
>>>>So now you are law enforcement officer. Not even in the same branch
>>>>of government as a lawyer. But then being a lawyer and all you should
>>>>know that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Being a lawyer, I know what Section 2901.01 of the Ohio Revised Code
>>> states:
>>>
>>> (A) As used in the Revised Code:
>>> * * *
>>> (11) "Law enforcement officer" means any of the following:
>>> * * *
>>> (h) A prosecuting attorney, assistant prosecuting attorney,
>>> secret service officer, or municipal prosecutor[.]
>>>
>>> But please feel free to continue exposing your stupidity. It has
>>> become a source of constant amusement.
>>
>>Try this: "Please don't hurt me Curt, I was just mouthing off because I
>>am an asshole" Your real problem here is that Curt is being consistent
>>and he already knows you are afraid of him. No matter how you try to
>>change the subject you made your fake threats in public.
>
>I guess you missed the point, Timmy, though I must admit that Curt
>probably got it. I'm hardly afraid of Curt. It's being arrested for
>pre-arranged mutual combat that I can't afford.

But you only hoisted that in after you received legal advice from your
chum "Charles", warning you of the consequences of your unlawful
conduct and potentially criminal intentions.

I am delighted that it enabled you to see the error of your ways, but
of course any alleged lawyer worth his salt would have known prior to
committing himself to criminal intent in such a public way.

Have a great weekend John Boy - I am! ;o)

"dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>
>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>
>Once again it only "he" with you

All your fucwit are belong to us

"JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
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> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>>
>>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>>
>>Once again it only "he" with you
>
> All your fucwit are belong to us

WTF?

dechucka wrote:
> "JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
> news:rq26k21mcn18994cbi3hnh9f9k4fd7rrgq@4ax.com...
>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>>>
>>>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>>>
>>> Once again it only "he" with you
>>
>> All your fucwit are belong to us
>
> WTF?

Internet/gaming joke

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Bully wrote:
> dechucka wrote:
>> "JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
>> news:rq26k21mcn18994cbi3hnh9f9k4fd7rrgq@4ax.com...
>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>>>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>>>> Once again it only "he" with you
>>> All your fucwit are belong to us
>> WTF?
>
> Internet/gaming joke
>

It's Engrish.
Classic stuff....

"didgerman" <didgerman@rfu.com> wrote in message
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> Bully wrote:
>> dechucka wrote:
>>> "JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rq26k21mcn18994cbi3hnh9f9k4fd7rrgq@4ax.com...
>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>>>>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>>>>> Once again it only "he" with you
>>>> All your fucwit are belong to us
>>> WTF?
>>
>> Internet/gaming joke
>>
>
> It's Engrish.
> Classic fucking crap.

Matua wrote:
> "didgerman" <didgerman@rfu.com> wrote in message
> news:ToE0h.23039$iq4.5453@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>> Bully wrote:
>>> dechucka wrote:
>>>> "JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:rq26k21mcn18994cbi3hnh9f9k4fd7rrgq@4ax.com...
>>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>>>>>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>>>>>> Once again it only "he" with you
>>>>> All your fucwit are belong to us
>>>> WTF?
>>>
>>> Internet/gaming joke
>>>
>>
>> It's Engrish.
>> Classic fucking crap.

You have no idea, do you?

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

In message
<453ff617$0$15648$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, dechucka
<dechucka@vomithotmail.com> writes
>Anyhow I looked at your reference the position is Number 8 not eightman and
>as America is a member of the IRB I can't understand why they would call it
>something different

Having played in the States I can confirm that they call a No 8
"eightman" pretty much universally.
--
Devs
"Punchdown Pete the old Kroner"

In message
<454310ed$0$15692$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, dechucka
<dechucka@vomithotmail.com> writes
>
>"JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
>news:rq26k21mcn18994cbi3hnh9f9k4fd7rrgq@4ax.com.. .
>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>>>
>>>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>>>
>>>Once again it only "he" with you
>>
>> All your fucwit are belong to us
>
>WTF?
>
>
Launch every zig. Fucwits make your time.
--
Devs
"Punchdown Pete the old Kroner"

JMW wrote:
> Tim Donohoe <tdonohoe@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>JMW wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tim Donohoe <tdonohoe@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>JMW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 24 Oct 2006 14:49:33 -0700, "JMW" <jmwilliams_56@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I offered nothing more than a statement that I would use physical force
>>>>>>>to defend myself if someone attempted to "put a boot up [my] arse."
>>>>>>>Such actions are supported by the laws of my state and most others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On the other hand, how do think the parents of the small children at
>>>>>>>Foose Elementary School would feel about Mr. James, the quirky art
>>>>>>>teacher with all the body piercings, riding his Harley to another state
>>>>>>>solely for the purpose of attempting to goad a law enforcement officer
>>>>>>>into physically defending himself? Is that the person they want
>>>>>>>teaching their impressionable little boys and girls?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So now you are law enforcement officer. Not even in the same branch
>>>>>>of government as a lawyer. But then being a lawyer and all you should
>>>>>>know that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Being a lawyer, I know what Section 2901.01 of the Ohio Revised Code
>>>>>states:
>>>>>
>>>>>(A) As used in the Revised Code:
>>>>>* * *
>>>>> (11) "Law enforcement officer" means any of the following:
>>>>>* * *
>>>>> (h) A prosecuting attorney, assistant prosecuting attorney,
>>>>>secret service officer, or municipal prosecutor[.]
>>>>>
>>>>>But please feel free to continue exposing your stupidity. It has
>>>>>become a source of constant amusement.
>>>>
>>>>Try this: "Please don't hurt me Curt, I was just mouthing off because I
>>>>am an asshole" Your real problem here is that Curt is being consistent
>>>>and he already knows you are afraid of him. No matter how you try to
>>>>change the subject you made your fake threats in public.
>>>
>>>
>>>I guess you missed the point, Timmy, though I must admit that Curt
>>>probably got it. I'm hardly afraid of Curt. It's being arrested for
>>>pre-arranged mutual combat that I can't afford.
>>>
>>>However, I can legally challenge dipshits like you to take a piss into
>>>a strong wind.
>>
>>You are a giant pussy, I can send my wife over to slap you silly if you
>>aren't pumped up enough for a beating from a man. You are a weak cunt
>>who wishes he had a mean streak. Plus, unlimited free time for google
>>investigating.
>
>
> Enough to peg you as a loudmouth Jersey asshole.
>
> But please do send along your wife. She's probably tired of a husband
> who's all talk, and maybe she needs a little action.

More usenet bullshit from a loudmouth pussy.

"Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:4qgn3fFn8356U1@individual.net...
> Matua wrote:
>> "didgerman" <didgerman@rfu.com> wrote in message
>> news:ToE0h.23039$iq4.5453@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Bully wrote:
>>>> dechucka wrote:
>>>>> "JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rq26k21mcn18994cbi3hnh9f9k4fd7rrgq@4ax.com...
>>>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wtf keep in mfw with your posing pouch groping
>>>>>>>> He he he he, FUCWIT He he he he.
>>>>>>> Once again it only "he" with you
>>>>>> All your fucwit are belong to us
>>>>> WTF?
>>>>
>>>> Internet/gaming joke
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's Engrish.
>>> Classic fucking crap.
>
> You have no idea, do you?
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
> matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
>
>

Hows this for an idea Bully BOY Shove your fucking protein bars up your
clacker you undernourished pasty honky poof.

Bullshit
Protein bars
http://www.proteinbars.co.uk should be
http://www.gaybars.co.uk

Matua.

Matua wrote:
> "Bully" wrote
[...]

> > You have no idea, do you?
> >
> > Bully
> > Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> Hows this for an idea Bully BOY Shove your fucking protein
> bars up your clacker you undernourished pasty honky poof.
>
> Bullshit
> Protein bars
> http://www.proteinbars.co.uk should be
> http://www.gaybars.co.uk
>
> Matua.

Mingling with the guests, Bully? I'd say, "so nerr!" is just about
right.

Do remember to thank the party organizer, of course. Now where did he
wander off to? John! John Williams! Hey, please entertain your
visitors, John!

--
Curt

Curt wrote:
> Matua wrote:
> > "Bully" wrote
> [...]
>
> > > You have no idea, do you?
> > >
> > > Bully
> > > Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
> >
> > Hows this for an idea Bully BOY Shove your fucking protein
> > bars up your clacker you undernourished pasty honky poof.
> >
> > Bullshit
> > Protein bars
> > http://www.proteinbars.co.uk should be
> > http://www.gaybars.co.uk
> >
> > Matua.
>
> Mingling with the guests, Bully? I'd say, "so nerr!" is just about
> right.
>
> Do remember to thank the party organizer, of course. Now where did he
> wander off to? John! John Williams! Hey, please entertain your
> visitors, John!

Otay, Turt.

John Williams *finally* served a worthwhile purpose:

> Curt wrote:

And that purpose would be as a conduit.

Thank you, John Williams. I believe Robert Schuh has me kf'ed, however
with your assistance in circumventing his kf, 'bert has the opportunity
to read my text version of a boot up your arse. ;o)

(And I didn't even have to ride my big, bad Harley to the end of the
driveway much less Ohio. ahahahaahHAHAHAHHH! Ahem. D)

> > Matua wrote:
> > > "Bully" wrote
> > [...]
> >
> > > > You have no idea, do you?
> > > >
> > > > Bully
> > > > Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
> > >
> > > Hows this for an idea Bully BOY Shove your fucking protein
> > > bars up your clacker you undernourished pasty honky poof.
> > >
> > > Bullshit
> > > Protein bars
> > > http://www.proteinbars.co.uk should be
> > > http://www.gaybars.co.uk
> > >
> > > Matua.
> >
> > Mingling with the guests, Bully? I'd say, "so nerr!" is just about
> > right.
> >
> > Do remember to thank the party organizer, of course. Now where did he
> > wander off to? John! John Williams! Hey, please entertain your
> > visitors, John!
>
> Otay, Turt.

Plus, if I'm a troll, then, by your definition, that makes you an
enabler extraordinaire.

Yup, it's a hyoooog ^5 to my bestestest pal, Johnny!

OTAY!!!!!!!!

--
Turt

OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>> Charles wrote:
>> > In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
>> > net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
>>
>> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
>
> I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the odometer.

That rule doesn't seem to work well for the US, which unlike Britain
or some of nowadays Eastern Europe is a classless society. Marx would
be tearing hair from his voluminous beard.

In article <30008@2917619772.1609822817.23362.13381.14740>,
DZ <7718@402218138.1038125072.6417.21136.11088> wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
> >> Charles wrote:
> >> > In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
> >> > net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
> >>
> >> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
> >
> > I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the odometer.
>
> That rule doesn't seem to work well for the US, which unlike Britain
> or some of nowadays Eastern Europe is a classless society. Marx would
> be tearing hair from his voluminous beard.

Britain is hardly a classless society... and neither is the US as you've
already observed.

Are there truly any classless societies on the face of the planet?
Realistically?

Marx was not a realist. Human nature needs that carrot on a stick, and
we need leaders. That's reality. People get lazy and do the absolute
minimum necessary to get by if they have nothing to strive for. No hope
of getting ahead.

That's what happened in Russia. Hell, a high percentage of the
population were alcoholics! I'd be interested to see just how high that
figure was.

People with no hope don't work hard.

I have an average middle class income of slightly over 50K. I could have
afforded a more expensive vehicle but I'm just not into the whole
"status symbol" thing. This truck fits my needs and it's still in good
condition, and it's paid for.

I have other priorities for my money. :-)

I also get most of my clothes at Wal-mart and Ross Dress for Less.

We all have our priorities in life!
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"Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:4q9cktFlqdbsU1@individual.net...
> Charles wrote:
> [...]
>
>>
>> However, what am I doing teaching granny to suck eggs...
>
> Ohmigod. You're disgusting. Matua, get a load of this pervy old goat!

I know! It's shocking,
Charlie if you don't stop this feral language, I'll put you in a room with
didge and let him have his way with you. Then you'll have scrambled eggs.
and aids.

Matua.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:53:18 +0000 (UTC), DZ
<7718@402218138.1038125072.6417.21136.11088> wrote:

>OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>>> Charles wrote:
>>> > In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
>>> > net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
>>>
>>> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
>>
>> I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the odometer.
>
>That rule doesn't seem to work well for the US, which unlike Britain
>or some of nowadays Eastern Europe is a classless society. Marx would
>be tearing hair from his voluminous beard.

One might be able to break free from their current class. But that
doesn't make it a classless society. I saw some guy complaining at a
corporate fast food place that an applicant to work there didn't dress
well enough. Apparently he thought it was an important enough job
that people should dress up to get the job. Everyone else in the US
thinks they are bottom of the barrel no matter how they dress.

If you really want to see the classes get a job as a servant to and
establishment where the wealthy entertain. Note that they will never
look you in the eye.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:10:49 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <30008@2917619772.1609822817.23362.13381.14740>,
> DZ <7718@402218138.1038125072.6417.21136.11088> wrote:
>
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>> >> Charles wrote:
>> >> > In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
>> >> > net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
>> >>
>> >> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
>> >
>> > I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the odometer.
>>
>> That rule doesn't seem to work well for the US, which unlike Britain
>> or some of nowadays Eastern Europe is a classless society. Marx would
>> be tearing hair from his voluminous beard.
>
>Britain is hardly a classless society... and neither is the US as you've
>already observed.
>
>Are there truly any classless societies on the face of the planet?
>Realistically?
>
>Marx was not a realist. Human nature needs that carrot on a stick, and
>we need leaders. That's reality. People get lazy and do the absolute
>minimum necessary to get by if they have nothing to strive for. No hope
>of getting ahead.
>
>That's what happened in Russia. Hell, a high percentage of the
>population were alcoholics! I'd be interested to see just how high that
>figure was.
>
>People with no hope don't work hard.
>
>I have an average middle class income of slightly over 50K. I could have
>afforded a more expensive vehicle but I'm just not into the whole
>"status symbol" thing. This truck fits my needs and it's still in good
>condition, and it's paid for.
>
>I have other priorities for my money. :-)
>
>I also get most of my clothes at Wal-mart and Ross Dress for Less.
>
>We all have our priorities in life!

I can only guess that DZ meant the classes are not fixed. If a person
gets with the program they can jump classes. Although most people do
not move up more than one notch. In other societies you are born
into it and you cannot not move no matter how talented you are.

OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> DZ wrote:
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>> >> Charles wrote:
>> >> > In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
>> >> > net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
>> >>
>> >> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
>> >
>> > I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the odometer.
>>
>> That rule doesn't seem to work well for the US, which unlike Britain
>> or some of nowadays Eastern Europe is a classless society. Marx would
>> be tearing hair from his voluminous beard.
>
> Britain is hardly a classless society... and neither is the US as you've
> already observed.

Have been smoking jimson weed, Om? :-) I wrote that the US is
classless which is UNLIKE Britain. You simply equate income with the
"class" attribute, which is exemplified by the fact that you call
yourself "middle class", simply based on your salary:

> I have an average middle class income of slightly over 50K. I could

However, nobody in the US gives a damn which strata you originated
from, and that's the point!

> Marx was not a realist. Human nature needs that carrot on a stick,
> and we need leaders. That's reality. People get lazy and do the
> absolute minimum necessary to get by if they have nothing to strive
> for. No hope of getting ahead. That's what happened in
> Russia. Hell, a high percentage of the population were alcoholics!
> I'd be interested to see just how high that figure was. People with
> no hope don't work hard.

We all had plenty of hope. The drinking is more of a cultural thing,
and it's just as prevalent now. Russia is a heavy drinking country for
sure, but it doesn't really stand out in either consumption or binge
drinking rates -

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publicatio...7-1/95-109.pdf

> have afforded a more expensive vehicle but I'm just not into the
> whole "status symbol" thing. This truck fits my needs and it's still
> in good condition, and it's paid for. I have other priorities for
> my money. :-)

Exactly.

In article <28365@1183524878.1262123175.18918.21106.5865>,
DZ <11101@1896920100.2363824726.22321.18568.15354> wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > DZ wrote:
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
> >> >> Charles wrote:
> >> >> > In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
> >> >> > net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
> >> >>
> >> >> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
> >> >
> >> > I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the odometer.
> >>
> >> That rule doesn't seem to work well for the US, which unlike Britain
> >> or some of nowadays Eastern Europe is a classless society. Marx would
> >> be tearing hair from his voluminous beard.
> >
> > Britain is hardly a classless society... and neither is the US as you've
> > already observed.
>
> Have been smoking jimson weed, Om? :-) I wrote that the US is
> classless which is UNLIKE Britain. You simply equate income with the
> "class" attribute, which is exemplified by the fact that you call
> yourself "middle class", simply based on your salary:

Sorry, I mis-read you. ;-)

>
> > I have an average middle class income of slightly over 50K. I could
>
> However, nobody in the US gives a damn which strata you originated
> from, and that's the point!

But he who has the gold still makes the rules...
Until a poor black man from the ghetto can get the same level of justice
as a wealthy white (or rich black athlete for that matter), I'll never
consider us to be a totally classless society.

Yes, everyone is capable of advancing themselves here but it takes a lot
of skill and determination.

In societies that have true classes (or worse yet, castes), there really
is no hope.

>
> > Marx was not a realist. Human nature needs that carrot on a stick,
> > and we need leaders. That's reality. People get lazy and do the
> > absolute minimum necessary to get by if they have nothing to strive
> > for. No hope of getting ahead. That's what happened in
> > Russia. Hell, a high percentage of the population were alcoholics!
> > I'd be interested to see just how high that figure was. People with
> > no hope don't work hard.
>
> We all had plenty of hope. The drinking is more of a cultural thing,
> and it's just as prevalent now. Russia is a heavy drinking country for
> sure, but it doesn't really stand out in either consumption or binge
> drinking rates -
>
> http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publicatio...7-1/95-109.pdf

Sorry, I prefer not to DL a lot of pdf's.

I think there is a lot more hope in Russia now...

>
> > have afforded a more expensive vehicle but I'm just not into the
> > whole "status symbol" thing. This truck fits my needs and it's still
> > in good condition, and it's paid for. I have other priorities for
> > my money. :-)
>
> Exactly.

Actually in Texas, a truck is more of less of a Status symbol, but I
only paid 13 grand for this one new. The real status symbols are the big
Mofo's that run close to 25 grand. They might be more now. I've not
priced them in awhile.

But insurance is higher and so is fuel expenditure...
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In article <forak2l23g5ffr8a8qul9ti34fh24rlvmg@4ax.com>,
Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I can only guess that DZ meant the classes are not fixed. If a person
> gets with the program they can jump classes. Although most people do
> not move up more than one notch. In other societies you are born
> into it and you cannot not move no matter how talented you are.

That is very true.
I misunderstood him... sorry.
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> I can only guess that DZ meant the classes are not fixed. If a person
>> gets with the program they can jump classes. Although most people do
>> not move up more than one notch. In other societies you are born
>> into it and you cannot not move no matter how talented you are.
>
> That is very true.
> I misunderstood him... sorry.

I agree with Shute.

It must be the Newcastle.

Maybe the Guinness.

David

In article <tff1h.17317$Y24.443@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote
> > Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I can only guess that DZ meant the classes are not fixed. If a person
> >> gets with the program they can jump classes. Although most people do
> >> not move up more than one notch. In other societies you are born
> >> into it and you cannot not move no matter how talented you are.
> >
> > That is very true.
> > I misunderstood him... sorry.
>
> I agree with Shute.
>
> It must be the Newcastle.
>
> Maybe the Guinness.
>
> David

Actually, lack of sleep...
I've had problems with insomnia the last couple of days.

That's my excuse and I'm stickin' with it. ;-)
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Devs wrote:
> In message
> <453ff617$0$15648$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
> dechucka <dechucka@vomithotmail.com> writes
>> Anyhow I looked at your reference the position is Number 8 not
>> eightman and as America is a member of the IRB I can't understand
>> why they would call it something different
>
> Having played in the States I can confirm that they call a No 8
> "eightman" pretty much universally.


From: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Universally:

"Of, relating to, extending to, or affecting the entire world or all within
the world; worldwide: "



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