HST simplified...please

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:37:59 -0400, Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:54:02 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:39:08 +0200, "Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I can handle 2-2.5 grams of steroids withOUT getting aggressive. No really,
>>>i can.
>>>
>>>There are only 3 notorious for increasing aggression:
>>>
>>>Halotestin, Parabolan (trenbolone) and mibelorone (Cheque Drops)
>>>I never used those, BTW...
>>>
>>>Test and A-50 perhaps. Maybe. Depends who take it, i guess.
>>>
>>>Nandrolone can actually LOWER aggression.
>>>
>>>----
>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>>I don't know if any mechanism has been suggested wherein AAS would
>>induce aggression via a direct physiological pathway. However, it is
>>not hard to imagine that your average "recreational" user is beset by
>>body-image issues as well as, possible, self-esteem issues. If you
>>put such a person in a state where they feel,suddenly, bigger and
>>stronger than everyone else it is not such a leap to suppose they
>>would become more aggressive.
>>
>>To wit:
>>
>>"how dare that weak little pinhead beep at ME"
>>"who is she to say no to ME, I look like a God"
>>"I'm the biggest baddest guy on this line and I'm gonna go tell that
>>cutter to get to the back like everyone else"
>>"I deadlift 405 lbs and everyone better give me space on the sidewalk"
>>"I'm RICK JAMES, bitch"
>>
>>etc etc etc
>
>I had some psychopath get out of his car and scream his head off at
>me. That guy had to be on steroids. He was driving this little
>shitbox car too. Why do big guys always drive little shitbox cars.

In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.

There is a classic case in point in this Group! ;o)

Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:44:03 -0700, Lucas Buck
<sbcpark@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:

>On 21 Oct 2006 16:39:16 -0700, "JMW" <jmwilliams_56@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Curt James wrote:
>>> John Williams offered:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> > http://www.looevalleyrotary.org/JH%20Trafalgar.jpg
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Williams, you're not a Rotarian, are you?
>>>
>>> That's okay. Neither am I.
>>>
>>> Still, it seems rather absurd for you to use images of your seeming
>>> opponents especially when they're decent pics. Hudson as a Rotarian is
>>> a good image. And he looks even better as a person might truncate the
>>> link you provided and see the good works his assocation contributes.
>>>
>>> What is it again that you contribute?
>>
>>That's a fair question, Curt, so I'll answer it.
>>
>>I belong to a couple of national service organizations. I'm the
>>webmaster and a long-time Board member for the local chapter of one of
>>them and previously spent several years on the Board of the local
>>chapter of the other. Use your Googling talents to figure out what
>>those organization are.
>>
>>And yes, I have been asked to stand for president of both local
>>chapters. I refused. If I don't have the time to devote to doing a
>>good job as an organization official, I won't even entertain the
>>possibility. Presidency of a service organization is about service,
>>not self-promotion.
>>
>>I also think Hudson should run for president of Looe Valley Rotary
>>again. It would give him something to do other than drinking and
>>trolling on Usenet.
>
>He's not even qualified to be president of a rotary engine.

Fucking WOW Lucas, that's a real pithy observation and an example of
humour of the highest order.

Unfortunately, you've just missed Wendy (she's buggered off again) so
the enormous contribution you have just made, will likely go over most
other people's heads.

(Wendy would have assumed that it meant you were stalking her again!)

Ugh! It's Monday! ;o)

In article <7oonj295b1kcipqpejkjsck37th1jtd3ja@4ax.com>,
Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:

> You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
> by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
> Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
> completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
>
> He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
>
> You know it makes sense mate! ;o)

I don't take sides Chas... You know that. :-)

I happen to like JMW, and you, and Curt.
Curt is very entertaining to read......

I just have to empathize with him a bit due to his chosen career.
My studies of late have made me re-think a _lot_ of things.

I hope you understand?
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In article <ieqnj2ljm4r19b07e1ir78m6mj0rkljjkn@4ax.com>,
Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:17:43 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <1161546096.201708.233990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> > "Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Thank you.
> >>
> >> Well, aren't you just so incredibly gracious, Johnny? Did you gain tons
> >> of therapeutic value and relaxation by telling our mutual friend that
> >> you could beat him senseless?
> >>
> >> Otoh, instigation is a form of bullying as well and for that fact I'll
> >> also cut you the tiniest slice of slack for now. You deserve your fair
> >> share of dirt, however, imo.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Curt
> >
> {snip}
> >Please keep in mind that I have just as much regard for teachers, so I'm
> >not attacking you either, just asking you for a bit more compassion.
> {snip}
>
> Errr, honestly I don't think compassion is what he is shooting for. If
> he is then he picked one hell of a lousy venue.
>
> --
> Is this thing on?

Compassion is often lacking on this group, but the Irony is as thick as
molasses... That's what makes it so much fun to read! <G>
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In article <1161570531.549588.139280@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> > and not criticise those people he is perpetually irritating and
> > provoking, when they retaliate to his cost.
>
> For me, I saw it not as criticism but rather as an attempt at
> peacemaking. Commendable.
>
> > You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go
> > alienating them by taking sides.
>
> Similarly, I saw no side-taking going on. Imo, Om made it clear that he
> has respect for all concerned. Or he stated as much and I won't doubt
> him on his word. Not at all.

Thanks Curt! :-)
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In article <6tfoj29fl8e6ui9ngukudq3g5etavqbgtt@4ax.com>,
Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I guess the ware escalated again the in the 70's when Vietnam soldiers
> where taking heroin. This was considered acceptable in years past
> yet they where someone looked down upon by the government who sent
> them there.

Heroin was even being shipped here inside of the bodies of dead Vietnam
soldiers.

>
> The amount of people doing time for drugs is unreal.

Indeed... :-(
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In article <vhnoj2hqfp42julnl1ijqtch4et0bsoain@4ax.com>,
JMW <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

> Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > JMW <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> >
> >>But you really need to understand what frustrates them most. It's not
> >>so much the people who fight them or run from them. It's the mouthy
> >>assholes who feel compelled to assuage their feelings of inferiority
> >>by beating their chests and insulting the cops, just because the cops
> >>represent authority. Naturally, the cops must treat them with some
> >>modicum of politeness, and not use force unless met with force.
> >>*That* is what frustrates them most.
> >>
> >>Do you see a parallel between those people and certain rebel-wanabee
> >>school teachers?
> >
> >No John. The reason people hate cops is the way you treated them as
> >teenagers. You think it is ok treat kids like shit. Then when those
> >kids grow up they think you are bunch of assholes. Which you are. I
> >remember every detail of being arrested as a kid.
>
> My guess is that your conduct then was similar to your conduct now.
>
> QED

While I've never been arrested for anything, my experience with police
has been mostly positive. I've found that _my_ attitude is what
influences them at traffic stops more than anything else.

The one time I was a bit hostile, it was because he started it off that
way but when I reciprocated the attitude, it only got worse. ;-)

My bad.

Now the one time I came out of my car yelling at a cop for tailgating me
late at night on a lonely desert road and his tailgating me CAUSED me to
speed, he backed off........
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:21:52 -0400, JMW
<jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>Lucas Buck <sbcpark@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>> "JMW" <jmwilliams_56@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Curt James wrote:
>>>> John Williams offered:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> > http://www.looevalleyrotary.org/JH%20Trafalgar.jpg
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Williams, you're not a Rotarian, are you?
>>>>
>>>> That's okay. Neither am I.
>>>>
>>>> Still, it seems rather absurd for you to use images of your seeming
>>>> opponents especially when they're decent pics. Hudson as a Rotarian is
>>>> a good image. And he looks even better as a person might truncate the
>>>> link you provided and see the good works his assocation contributes.
>>>>
>>>> What is it again that you contribute?
>>>
>>>That's a fair question, Curt, so I'll answer it.
>>>
>>>I belong to a couple of national service organizations. I'm the
>>>webmaster and a long-time Board member for the local chapter of one of
>>>them and previously spent several years on the Board of the local
>>>chapter of the other. Use your Googling talents to figure out what
>>>those organization are.
>>>
>>>And yes, I have been asked to stand for president of both local
>>>chapters. I refused. If I don't have the time to devote to doing a
>>>good job as an organization official, I won't even entertain the
>>>possibility. Presidency of a service organization is about service,
>>>not self-promotion.
>>>
>>>I also think Hudson should run for president of Looe Valley Rotary
>>>again. It would give him something to do other than drinking and
>>>trolling on Usenet.
>>
>>He's not even qualified to be president of a rotary engine.
>
>Tell him to kiss your wankel.

I actually had an RO80, and what a splendid car it was too. Extremely
quiet and immensely powerful.

Unfortunately, there was an inherent compression loss due to
condensation in the rotor chambers, which caused corrosion and
pitting. This was compounded by me leaving it out of use for long
periods while I was away at sea. I had two engine replacements in
under 20,000 miles before reluctantly disposing of it.

It was a car well before its time and the forerunner of the 'wedge'
shape which became very popular. A fine example of German engineering.

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:57:18 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <ufsoj2le7rnnf6cppklbbvt5bkg04k9gfl@4ax.com>,
> Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
>
>I just started a 2 week vacation. :-)

Good for you mate - enjoy! ;o)

Me? I'm back in my office until Friday again!

Ugh! It's Monday! ;o)

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:59:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <7oonj295b1kcipqpejkjsck37th1jtd3ja@4ax.com>,
> Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
>> by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
>> Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
>> completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
>>
>> He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
>>
>> You know it makes sense mate! ;o)
>
>I don't take sides Chas... You know that. :-)

I know mate, but you are just too nice sometimes and Williams tries to
turn any hint of support he may get, back on those that oppose his
despicable conduct.

>
>I happen to like JMW, and you, and Curt.
>Curt is very entertaining to read......
>
>I just have to empathize with him a bit due to his chosen career.

He prosecutes small time miscreants and regular toss-pots in a small
rural town. It's just about the lowest a lawyer can go without
actually being unemployed or struck off. Nobody who is any good or who
gained a law degree from a reputable recognised law college, would
ever stoop so low.

It's a crap, dead-end job, as his age and job description clearly
indicate. It's why he lives for what he does here, so that he can
attempt to bolster his flagging self-esteem.

>My studies of late have made me re-think a _lot_ of things.
>
>I hope you understand?

I do mate - no problems. ;o)

However, you know Williams gives me, and many other people the shits,
and as he has started increasing his "trolling" activities again, then
it is obviously going to mean a great deal of retaliation.

The result is the Group goes upside down again (just look at the
increase in posts and content) and puts Williams centre-stage, which
of course is what he wants.

OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
>> by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
>> Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
>> completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
>>
>> He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
>>
>> You know it makes sense mate! ;o)
>
>I don't take sides Chas... You know that. :-)
>
>I happen to like JMW, and you, and Curt.
>Curt is very entertaining to read......
>
>I just have to empathize with him a bit due to his chosen career.
>My studies of late have made me re-think a _lot_ of things.
>
>I hope you understand?

I hope so to. "Sad error" sounds a bit like a threat.

JMW <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
>>> by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
>>> Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
>>> completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
>>>
>>> He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
>>>
>>> You know it makes sense mate! ;o)
>>
>>I don't take sides Chas... You know that. :-)
>>
>>I happen to like JMW, and you, and Curt.
>>Curt is very entertaining to read......
>>
>>I just have to empathize with him a bit due to his chosen career.
>>My studies of late have made me re-think a _lot_ of things.
>>
>>I hope you understand?
>
>I hope so to. "Sad error" sounds a bit like a threat.

Uh, I mean: "I hope so, too."

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:52:21 -0400, JMW
<jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
>>> by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
>>> Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
>>> completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
>>>
>>> He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
>>>
>>> You know it makes sense mate! ;o)
>>
>>I don't take sides Chas... You know that. :-)
>>
>>I happen to like JMW, and you, and Curt.
>>Curt is very entertaining to read......
>>
>>I just have to empathize with him a bit due to his chosen career.
>>My studies of late have made me re-think a _lot_ of things.
>>
>>I hope you understand?
>
>I hope so to. "Sad error" sounds a bit like a threat.

But nothing to compare with your infamous "I'll beat you senseless"
effort Counsellor!

As the regular author of all sorts of threats and blackmail, and the
possessor of a schizo-paranoid personality, then the most innocuous
statements can always "sound like a threat" - particularly as you are
always bent on making mischief.

You're up late again John, no doubt poring over your files and
searching the 'net' for more personal information, to use against the
foes you accumulate like flies to a shit heap!

Beware of the voices in your head old chap - they can't all be right.
Heed only the sounds you hear from your *real* brain, which is
situated thus:

http://www.fitnwell.net/upownass.jpg

HTH!

etc...

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 05:06:27 -0400, JMW
<jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>JMW <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
>>>> by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
>>>> Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
>>>> completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
>>>>
>>>> He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
>>>>
>>>> You know it makes sense mate! ;o)
>>>
>>>I don't take sides Chas... You know that. :-)
>>>
>>>I happen to like JMW, and you, and Curt.
>>>Curt is very entertaining to read......
>>>
>>>I just have to empathize with him a bit due to his chosen career.
>>>My studies of late have made me re-think a _lot_ of things.
>>>
>>>I hope you understand?
>>
>>I hope so to. "Sad error" sounds a bit like a threat.
>
>Uh, I mean: "I hope so, too."

Uh, surely you meant:

I hope so too. "Sad error" sounds a bit like a threat.

If you're going to be paranoid about a spelling error, then at least
get the correction right, otherwise your ominous shit-stirring warning
becomes a warm glowing caring thing - and that would never do! ;o)

HTH!

etc...

Charles wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:37:59 -0400, Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:54:02 GMT, Joe Humble
>> <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:39:08 +0200, "Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can handle 2-2.5 grams of steroids withOUT getting aggressive.
>>>> No really, i can.
>>>>
>>>> There are only 3 notorious for increasing aggression:
>>>>
>>>> Halotestin, Parabolan (trenbolone) and mibelorone (Cheque Drops)
>>>> I never used those, BTW...
>>>>
>>>> Test and A-50 perhaps. Maybe. Depends who take it, i guess.
>>>>
>>>> Nandrolone can actually LOWER aggression.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if any mechanism has been suggested wherein AAS would
>>> induce aggression via a direct physiological pathway. However, it
>>> is not hard to imagine that your average "recreational" user is
>>> beset by body-image issues as well as, possible, self-esteem
>>> issues. If you put such a person in a state where they
>>> feel,suddenly, bigger and stronger than everyone else it is not
>>> such a leap to suppose they would become more aggressive.
>>>
>>> To wit:
>>>
>>> "how dare that weak little pinhead beep at ME"
>>> "who is she to say no to ME, I look like a God"
>>> "I'm the biggest baddest guy on this line and I'm gonna go tell that
>>> cutter to get to the back like everyone else"
>>> "I deadlift 405 lbs and everyone better give me space on the
>>> sidewalk" "I'm RICK JAMES, bitch"
>>>
>>> etc etc etc
>>
>> I had some psychopath get out of his car and scream his head off at
>> me. That guy had to be on steroids. He was driving this little
>> shitbox car too. Why do big guys always drive little shitbox cars.
>
> In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
> net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
>

I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?

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matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:25:44 +0100, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
wrote:

>Charles wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:37:59 -0400, Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:54:02 GMT, Joe Humble
>>> <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:39:08 +0200, "Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can handle 2-2.5 grams of steroids withOUT getting aggressive.
>>>>> No really, i can.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are only 3 notorious for increasing aggression:
>>>>>
>>>>> Halotestin, Parabolan (trenbolone) and mibelorone (Cheque Drops)
>>>>> I never used those, BTW...
>>>>>
>>>>> Test and A-50 perhaps. Maybe. Depends who take it, i guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nandrolone can actually LOWER aggression.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if any mechanism has been suggested wherein AAS would
>>>> induce aggression via a direct physiological pathway. However, it
>>>> is not hard to imagine that your average "recreational" user is
>>>> beset by body-image issues as well as, possible, self-esteem
>>>> issues. If you put such a person in a state where they
>>>> feel,suddenly, bigger and stronger than everyone else it is not
>>>> such a leap to suppose they would become more aggressive.
>>>>
>>>> To wit:
>>>>
>>>> "how dare that weak little pinhead beep at ME"
>>>> "who is she to say no to ME, I look like a God"
>>>> "I'm the biggest baddest guy on this line and I'm gonna go tell that
>>>> cutter to get to the back like everyone else"
>>>> "I deadlift 405 lbs and everyone better give me space on the
>>>> sidewalk" "I'm RICK JAMES, bitch"
>>>>
>>>> etc etc etc
>>>
>>> I had some psychopath get out of his car and scream his head off at
>>> me. That guy had to be on steroids. He was driving this little
>>> shitbox car too. Why do big guys always drive little shitbox cars.
>>
>> In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
>> net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
>>
>
>I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?

I neither have the time nor the energy to give personalised
indications of one's worth to society, by assessing the cost and
desirability of a plethora of car marques.

You have the 'formula' - work it out for yourself!

Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(

In article <fuuoj29p5niu8qpj8igb2ldlk35vqojne0@4ax.com>,
Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:57:18 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <ufsoj2le7rnnf6cppklbbvt5bkg04k9gfl@4ax.com>,
> > Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
> >
> >I just started a 2 week vacation. :-)
>
> Good for you mate - enjoy! ;o)
>
> Me? I'm back in my office until Friday again!
>
> Ugh! It's Monday! ;o)

The week will pass all too quickly......
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In article <4q3g4lFl9uspU1@individual.net>,
"Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

> Charles wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:37:59 -0400, Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:54:02 GMT, Joe Humble
> >> <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:39:08 +0200, "Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I can handle 2-2.5 grams of steroids withOUT getting aggressive.
> >>>> No really, i can.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are only 3 notorious for increasing aggression:
> >>>>
> >>>> Halotestin, Parabolan (trenbolone) and mibelorone (Cheque Drops)
> >>>> I never used those, BTW...
> >>>>
> >>>> Test and A-50 perhaps. Maybe. Depends who take it, i guess.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nandrolone can actually LOWER aggression.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>> Pete
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if any mechanism has been suggested wherein AAS would
> >>> induce aggression via a direct physiological pathway. However, it
> >>> is not hard to imagine that your average "recreational" user is
> >>> beset by body-image issues as well as, possible, self-esteem
> >>> issues. If you put such a person in a state where they
> >>> feel,suddenly, bigger and stronger than everyone else it is not
> >>> such a leap to suppose they would become more aggressive.
> >>>
> >>> To wit:
> >>>
> >>> "how dare that weak little pinhead beep at ME"
> >>> "who is she to say no to ME, I look like a God"
> >>> "I'm the biggest baddest guy on this line and I'm gonna go tell that
> >>> cutter to get to the back like everyone else"
> >>> "I deadlift 405 lbs and everyone better give me space on the
> >>> sidewalk" "I'm RICK JAMES, bitch"
> >>>
> >>> etc etc etc
> >>
> >> I had some psychopath get out of his car and scream his head off at
> >> me. That guy had to be on steroids. He was driving this little
> >> shitbox car too. Why do big guys always drive little shitbox cars.
> >
> > In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to their
> > net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox" jobs.
> >
>
> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?

I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the odometer.

Still works great. ;-)
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article <4q3g4lFl9uspU1@individual.net>,
> "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:
>
>> Charles wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:37:59 -0400, Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:54:02 GMT, Joe Humble
>>>> <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:39:08 +0200, "Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can handle 2-2.5 grams of steroids withOUT getting aggressive.
>>>>>> No really, i can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are only 3 notorious for increasing aggression:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Halotestin, Parabolan (trenbolone) and mibelorone (Cheque Drops)
>>>>>> I never used those, BTW...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Test and A-50 perhaps. Maybe. Depends who take it, i guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nandrolone can actually LOWER aggression.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if any mechanism has been suggested wherein AAS would
>>>>> induce aggression via a direct physiological pathway. However, it
>>>>> is not hard to imagine that your average "recreational" user is
>>>>> beset by body-image issues as well as, possible, self-esteem
>>>>> issues. If you put such a person in a state where they
>>>>> feel,suddenly, bigger and stronger than everyone else it is not
>>>>> such a leap to suppose they would become more aggressive.
>>>>>
>>>>> To wit:
>>>>>
>>>>> "how dare that weak little pinhead beep at ME"
>>>>> "who is she to say no to ME, I look like a God"
>>>>> "I'm the biggest baddest guy on this line and I'm gonna go tell
>>>>> that cutter to get to the back like everyone else"
>>>>> "I deadlift 405 lbs and everyone better give me space on the
>>>>> sidewalk" "I'm RICK JAMES, bitch"
>>>>>
>>>>> etc etc etc
>>>>
>>>> I had some psychopath get out of his car and scream his head off at
>>>> me. That guy had to be on steroids. He was driving this little
>>>> shitbox car too. Why do big guys always drive little shitbox cars.
>>>
>>> In my experience people drive cars which are strictly related to
>>> their net income. If they drive "shitbox cars" they have "shitbox"
>>> jobs.
>>>
>>
>> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
>
> I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the
> odometer.
>
> Still works great. ;-)

That's you in Charlies shitbox file then !!!

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matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

In article <51voj2d75cktma4n4olgih11iro6mskr03@4ax.com>,
Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:59:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <7oonj295b1kcipqpejkjsck37th1jtd3ja@4ax.com>,
> > Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
> >> by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
> >> Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
> >> completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
> >>
> >> He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
> >>
> >> You know it makes sense mate! ;o)
> >
> >I don't take sides Chas... You know that. :-)
>
> I know mate, but you are just too nice sometimes and Williams tries to
> turn any hint of support he may get, back on those that oppose his
> despicable conduct.

For some reason, I'm not seeing that?

>
> >
> >I happen to like JMW, and you, and Curt.
> >Curt is very entertaining to read......
> >
> >I just have to empathize with him a bit due to his chosen career.
>
> He prosecutes small time miscreants and regular toss-pots in a small
> rural town. It's just about the lowest a lawyer can go without
> actually being unemployed or struck off. Nobody who is any good or who
> gained a law degree from a reputable recognised law college, would
> ever stoop so low.
>
> It's a crap, dead-end job, as his age and job description clearly
> indicate. It's why he lives for what he does here, so that he can
> attempt to bolster his flagging self-esteem.

It could also be dedication.
Public defenders have it even worse, but they still keep doing it.

It's kinda like sanitation engineers and housekeepers. We NEED them and
they take pride in their careers.

I guess I've seen too much poverty in my life to ever, ever look down on
someone for their chosen career and them sticking with it.

I hope that make sense?

I could move up in the world too and take on a higher paying job doing
machine repair for one of the big medical machine companies, and they'd
hire me in a heartbeat, instead of slogging away in a small hospital
lab... as I'm actually rather good at it and have a mechanical bent,

but doing so would mean being on the road a lot. Too much sacrifice of
my very precious time.

Plus I happen to _like_ my job. :-)

There is more to life than money and job prestige...

>
> >My studies of late have made me re-think a _lot_ of things.
> >
> >I hope you understand?
>
> I do mate - no problems. ;o)
>
> However, you know Williams gives me, and many other people the shits,
> and as he has started increasing his "trolling" activities again, then
> it is obviously going to mean a great deal of retaliation.
>
> The result is the Group goes upside down again (just look at the
> increase in posts and content) and puts Williams centre-stage, which
> of course is what he wants.

And everyone here eats it up. ;-)
They LOVE the conflict! It's what this list is really all about
sometimes, or so it seems.

Lately, the number of actual weight lifting posts have outnumbered the
"conflict" posts according to my browser.

Cheers Chas'! :-)
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"JMW" <jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> schreef:

> I'm sure I could set something up. I could even have it videotaped
> with sufficient warning. Of course, if it is to be spontaneous, the
> assailant will need to make the proper threat to "put a boot up [my]
> arse," along with actions indicating an intent to carry out the
> threat. Legal issues, y'know.

> If by mutual arrangement, I would be comfortable with either PKA or
> UFC rules. Maybe Larry Hodges would like to be in on this?

Anyone should take the time to read this...


John, do you remember LosinBig AKA BigBench AKA Clint thompson?

http://groups.google.nl/group/misc.f...q=next+of+kin&

Before this, John and Clint had an arguement about eh... HOMEBREW!

Thats right! Trenbolone taken from cattle-implants.

According to Clint, it was trenbolone acetate, accoording to John, another
ester. Or the other way around.
See how these things can start?

http://groups.google.nl/group/misc.f...26fc266785cb0c

This was one of the weirdest threats i ever read.
ML asked John not to respond anymore, and in the meanwhile, E-mailed Roberts
to get info about trenbolone...

----
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In article <4q3ij9FkquhuU1@individual.net>,
"Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

> >> I drive a 6 year old Ford Cougar; where does that put me?
> >
> > I drive a 1999 Chevy S-10 pickup truck... with 110,000 on the
> > odometer.
> >
> > Still works great. ;-)
>
> That's you in Charlies shitbox file then !!!
>
> --
> Bully

Does not matter...
I live in Texas where driving a truck is a status symbol. ;-)
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"Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> schreef:

in bericht news:47foj2pt152sqsn0ghv9kirlv1edevl1qg@4ax.com...
> On 22 Oct 2006 18:47:50 -0700, "Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>> "Curt James" wrote:
>>>
>>> > > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > Well, aren't you just so incredibly gracious, Johnny? Did you gain
>>> > tons
>>> > of therapeutic value and relaxation by telling our mutual friend that
>>> > you could beat him senseless?
>>> >
>>> > Otoh, instigation is a form of bullying as well and for that fact I'll
>>> > also cut you the tiniest slice of slack for now. You deserve your fair
>>> > share of dirt, however, imo.
>>>
>>> <snip>before you go any further, please read "The Truth about
>>> Personal Protection" by Masaad Ayoob.
>>>
>>> And "The Ayoob Files".
>>>
>>> That second book took me 2 months to get shipped. It's that popular.
>>>
>>> It will most likely give you some good insights and understanding.
>>>
>>> I know one thing for sure...
>>>
>>> The police are not paid anywhere near enough, and there are far too few
>>> of them. :-(
>>
>>I trust that's true, however I hope I haven't given you a false
>>impression that I'm anti-law enforcement. I just don't like a few of
>>the laws.
>>
>>> And I could never be paid enough to be a Prosecutor.
>>
>>Likewise prosecutors. They don't make the laws, right? They simply
>>prosecute those who break the laws.
>>
>>> The real money is in defense law. That means that it takes a
>>> certain amount of dedication.
>>
>>Well, I'm certain there could be other variables also. Aren't star
>>players recruited for defense law firms or is that just something that
>>happens on TV?
>>
>>> If you want to attack JMW as a person, ok.
>>
>>SWWEEEEET!!!! ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!! WE HAVE ~*LIFT OFF!!!!!!*~ ATTACK
>>PROCEDURES IMPLEMENTED!!!!!! GO, GO,
>>GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>> (even tho' I won't agree as I've gotten to know him privately).
>>
>>And I'll bet that's just peachy keen, however JMW has shown himself to
>>be something of an idiot, imo, by virtue of his little troll list and
>>his contradictions exhibited - conduit, enabler, and selective killfile
>>usage to name a few. I have no problem, however, if you have a differen
>>opinion of the man. It's relative to the treatment received as well as
>>your level of maturity, forgiveness, acceptance, and other Om-like
>>personality traits.
>>
>>> But without proper education, you really don't have the
>>> understanding required to attempt to attack his choice
>>> of career.
>>
>>I don't remember attacks against his career as much as questions of his
>>behavior as it relates to him as an individual and as his actions
>>relate to what I'd describe as unlawyerlike nonsense. The invitation to
>>Ohio where he'll be waiting alone and unarmed as well as his comment to
>>another MFW patron that he could beat him senseless. You like him, hey,
>>more power to you. I realize you have a different relationship. Me? I
>>think he's something very much akin to a POS for reasons given.
>>
>>> Please keep in mind that I have just as much regard
>>> for teachers, so I'm not attacking you either, just asking
>>> you for a bit more compassion.
>>
>>I do not feel attacked by you at all, Om. I appreciate your efforts
>>while not planning on responding too positively. I also respect your
>>intent without agreeing with you, unfortunately.
>>
>>> I would have loved to be a teacher at one point in the life sciences,
>>> but I chose health care for financial security reasons. I grew up dirt
>>> poor.
>>
>>Hey, you're not alone. ;o)
>>
>>> That's my one and only lousy excuse. ;-)
>>
>>Not a bad "excuse" at all, Om. I've had plenty of 20K a year jobs and
>>so my 40K a year as an educator is a blessing. Plus it's more fun than
>>fun!
>>
>>> Peace, Om
>>
>>Peace is indeed the key, however it's something of a war with Williams.
>>He's deserving of compassion? I don't think so.
>>
>>Perhaps you missed the following, but I don't believe you did. I
>>applaud your attempts at being peacemaker, however choose not to follow
>>suit. You've said it's my job to make my students better people and I
>>agree with that opinion, however even I know limits and have told my
>>bullying students something quite like, "If you kick a dog, you can
>>expect to get bit."
>>
>>The following is a rerun, but it fairly sums up my ax-to-grind factor
>>so far as JMW is concerned.
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/misc....1c98cf2?hl=en&
>>
>>
>>JMW wrote:
>>> Curt James wrote:
>>> > JMW wrote:
>>> > > [...]
>>> > >
>>> > > There's a point to be made here, <snip>.
>>
>>And I recognized your point immediately, in my opinion. Your point was
>>to be inflammatory, John. As always, you're candycoating it or you're
>>wrapping it in a blanket of "for the greater good of the newsgroup."
>>What you're accomplishing, however, is no more than a self-serving
>>attempt at controlling another poster's behavior or presence in what
>>you seem to consider your domain.
>>
>>You're a wannabe bully and behave as such.
>>
>>> > > If you don't understand the concept,
>>
>>Dismissive, rude, condescending, and truly something of a colossal
>>jerk. I should change that characterization, however, as you're much
>>more a pitiful and sad annoyance.
>>
>>> > > ask yourself this: why are sex offenders required
>>> > > to register?
>>
>>Did someone say you're a lawyer?
>>
>>I guess you're accustom to being assigned parallels that hold no truth.
>>Sad fact of life, isn't it?
>>
>>> > How would you apply that statement to me, John?
>>>
>>> I'm glad you asked, Curt.
>>
>>Of course you are. Misguided by obviously glad.
>>
>>> Convicted sex offenders tend to wash away stigma by
>>> moving away from their old surroundings.
>>
>>Immediately, your parallel is shown to be false as I've maintained my
>>presence in RAB for more than eight years. You may want to check your
>>facts there. Let me help:
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/RABstats.html
>>
>>Those stats go back to December 2004, however Google archives would
>>offer posts going back years before that. Adversarial is the climate in
>>general in RAB and I have not shied away from that, however it's no
>>surprise that you would fail to quote any positive statements you could
>>find in RAB's archives wrt yours truly. No surprise at all, John.
>>
>>Likewise, I've participated in RMH for an equal number of years. But
>>you know about RMH because your attempt at inflammatory cross-posting
>>to THAT newsgroup was met by an icy wall of silence, wasn't it?
>>
>>The dynamics are notably different in each of these newsgroups, however
>>the fact remains that I have not moved away from "old surroundings" at
>>all. Oh, perhaps you're applying that with MFW as new surroundings.
>>Does this mean that I cannot add to my circle of newsgroups? ACS is
>>another ng where I have infrequently visited. Does that merit such a
>>parallel comment? No, not in my opinion and, I suspect, not in the
>>opinion of anyone with the common sense to see beyond their own nose.
>>
>>Yes, it would be easy to interpret my reaction toward you as egging you
>>on, however I prefer to look at it as simply not buying what you're
>>selling. The "I'm The Monitor Here." John Williams bonus package.
>>Sorry, no sale.
>>
>>> Unfortunately, they retain their personality characteristics.
>>
>>And, sadly, so have you. Isn't there an operation for what you've got,
>>John?
>>
>>> Requiring registration in the new town informs the
>>> residents of the risk.
>>
>>Again, your attempted parallel is ridiculous. The risk the MFW
>>residents run is of being bored to death by our constant bickering. Who
>>will take action on that risk first? Well?
>>
>>> A similar phenomenon occurs on Usenet. Sometimes,
>>> a person becomes a real arsehole in a certain newsgroup.
>>
>>AIN'T THAT THA TRUTH????!!!! )
>>
>>> After a while, none of the regulars in that newsgroup can
>>> stand that person, and he is consistently insulted or ignored
>>> by nearly everyone but the occasional newbie who wanders in.
>>
>>Again, adversarial is the nature of RAB as your little speech does not
>>apply to me at all wrt RMH. So with RAB in mind, I'll try to explain a
>>few things to you, John.
>>
>>I can see why some would be annoyed by my presence in RAB. I just won't
>>go away. GRRRR! RAB did have a lot of patrons and many of those faces
>>are now gone. Those few that remain of that old group typically whine
>>and cry about me. And that's ALL that they do. Weird. Strike any
>>nerves, John?
>>
>>Well, there is one who appears now and again and makes no comment re
>>yours truly. The smartest one of that particular bunch some would say.
>>Nevertheless, I've encouraged my vocal detractors to "rebuild" RAB as
>>they see fit, but apparently they'd much rather spend their energies on
>>making rude comments about me. Going so far as to following me around.
>>HA! Productive? I'd say no. (And, yes, I recognize the pot-kettle-black
>>insanity of even replying to your posts, John.)
>>
>>You may get the illusion that everyone hates me on RAB. There is the
>>thread after all. ) However this is not the case. I write a lot. I'm
>>in the minority on that count so far as RAB is concerned. Review the
>>stats at the link above if you doubt me, John. Some others have the
>>inability to ignore the fact that I write a lot. Hey, now that should
>>ring a bell or two with you, Johnny! And so they piss and moan and,
>>yes, act like what you might describe as an "arsehole."
>>
>>Regardless, I'll tell you what I've told them: Please don't blame your
>>disappointment, seeming misery and dissatisfaction on me.
>>
>>John, speak with your friends, interact with anyone you please, enjoy
>>your artwork. I have. True. Despite what you may believe you're
>>achieving by using my image as a canvas of sorts, you've provided me
>>with more than one laugh. Often, however, that laugh is at the thought
>>of your more than likely wrinkled up face as you work on the creation.
>>
>>heh
>>
>>With RAB, as with you, I almost have to believe that new blood has some
>>of the old guard concerned. It's not about me. It's about change. And
>>that, John Williams, is something no one can stop.
>>
>>Hth.
>>
>>> So he moves to another newsgroup where he is an unknown.
>>
>>HA! I'm no gun person, at least not since I earned that marksman ribbon
>>in the Navy, but shooting holes in your argument is, I suspect, like
>>shooting fish in a barrel.
>>
>>The Queen of Cans and Jars ring any additional bells, John? Hmmm.
>>
>>"So he moves to another newsgroup where he is an unknown." Is that what
>>you wrote?
>>
>>I don't think so. And, I was visiting only to ask who won the Olympia,
>>Cutler or Coleman. I'm sure you remember that thread. You, like mica,
>>opened your yaps in a - what I'd call - confrontational or at least
>>less than inviting manner.
>>
>>If anyone is to blame for my presence here, well, firstly it's me. As I
>>choose to stay. I like it here, but I will not shy from attempted abuse
>>and - more importantly - I love weights and improving my body, my
>>strength, my health. Also, I have enjoyed the virtual camaraderie I've
>>found in this newsgroup. You don't like that? Sucks to be you. Use the
>>kill file you encouraged everyone else to use on the likes of TBR.
>>
>>You encouraged TBR's presence as much as anything going on his TBR's
>>brain, I strongly suspect. And, yes, I will say that your sniping has
>>encouraged me to respond in kind on more than one occasion. Plus,
>>again, I will thank you for your negative attitude's impact on my
>>weight training. Physically, I was much weaker when I made that post in
>>2004 than I am now. This is in part because of the motivation I gained
>>from choosing to listen to you whine about trolls and blablablah, on
>>and on. I thought, how can I participate here without actually lifting?
>>And so I rededicated my lifting efforts partially in response to your
>>whiiiiiining annoyance.
>>
>>We're a matched set in that regard though, aren't we? You match me
>>drivel for drivel. Or you try.
>>
>>You're leaps and bounds ahead of me on the jpeg/gif front as well as
>>web pages devoted to me, however. What's that say about you? Do seeming
>>STALKERS have to register anywhere?
>>
>>> Unfortunately, those people retain their personality
>>> characteristics, and gradually, the same thing happens
>>> all over again.
>>
>>Hmmm. Let me ask you... any parallels to the "me and you" interaction
>>and any other interactions you've shared in this newsgroup? Huh, John?
>>Does "gradually, the same thing happens all over again" apply to you
>>with anyone else?
>>
>>A little help here! Never mind. I already know the answer.
>>
>>Colossal jerk? I was wrong.
>>
>>Pitiful. Sad. Bitter. ( Unfortunately, those words more accurately
>>describe you, John Williams.
>>
>>> Often, the person will defend himself by exclaiming, "I am a courteous,
>>> friendly, and knowledgeable person, and there would have been no
>>> problem if the regulars in this newsgroup had not mistreated me!" It
>>> is then that the person's earlier history in another newsgroup can be
>>> revealing as to his real personalities traits.
>>
>>Have I made such statements? I think I've commented on the
>>pot-kettle-blackness of it all more than once. You love Google archives
>>as much as I do, apparently, so why don't you take a peek there? And I
>>have "mistreated" you as much as you've attempted to mistreat me, imo.
>>Yes, I'd say I've at the very least given as good as I've got. (What
>>was that I said about tooting your own horn? Guilty!)
>>
>>> You see, history has a habit of repeating itself.
>>
>>True. And yet some people apparently never learn, do they?
>>
>>> > Regardless, and as I said previously, you're a pawn here.
>>> > And you're apparently too stupid to realize it.
>>>
>>> Quite the opposite, dear Curt. I have been waiting quite a while
>>> for the RAB gang to confirm what I have been saying all along.
>>
>>So you say. But I believe you lie.
>>
>>You attempted the same thing with the RMH patrons, but that didn't work
>>out as planned, did it? So, like an unsuccessful door-to-door salesman,
>>you packed up your junk and peddled it elsewhere. You found your
>>customer, I'll give you that. But that certainly doesn't prove your
>>parallel at all. In fact, it makes it all the more ridiculous.
>>
>>I believe you're acting like a fool, John. And I wouldn't be surprised
>>if that opinion is shared by others. Might want to check on that, too.
>>Or not. Hey, it's your reputation.
>>
>>And for any who may've skipped to the bottom and prefer humor to
>>bickering:
>>
>>http://www.cartoonstock.com/director...r_salesmen.asp
>>
>>/rerun
>>
>>Compassion for John Williams? I don't see it happening. Although I have
>>stated I would appreciate he remove his web pages which he has
>>currently "devoted to" yours truly. That'd be a start, but although you
>>may see him in a certain light (as is your right) I suspect he's
>>anything but deserving of your kind thoughts. Of course I could be
>>wrong. I have been many times in the past and expect I will be an equal
>>or greater number of times in the future.
>>
>
> I think you set a new record Curt. 351 lines, holy shit. I replied
> with the whole message just in case someone missed it.

351?

Thats nothing.

Try this one;

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....014ba96c225e6c

I was posting as "Anonymous."

----
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OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> He prosecutes small time miscreants and regular toss-pots in a small
>> rural town. It's just about the lowest a lawyer can go without
>> actually being unemployed or struck off. Nobody who is any good or who
>> gained a law degree from a reputable recognised law college, would
>> ever stoop so low.
>>
>> It's a crap, dead-end job, as his age and job description clearly
>> indicate. It's why he lives for what he does here, so that he can
>> attempt to bolster his flagging self-esteem.
>
>It could also be dedication.

I am dedicated to my job. It's tad different than the old fellow
imagines, though. Since I h