I knew I needed a layoff but...

In article
<d3db0c15-ab2d-45ac-b568-a69642965b0f@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 18, 9:35 pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <8fe75e18-c7d6-4496-84ea-77b7fb1bc...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 14, 1:28 pm, "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > [...]
> >
> > > > Doc said it had to do with the pressure it induceson the lungs, esp if
> > > > someone holds their breath during the exertion phase, which I probably
> > > > do
> > > > too much.
> >
> > > I believe that's part of what killed Elvis.
> >
> > And you accuse ME of posting jokes about it?
> >
> > Sheesh!
>
> haHA! Man, it gets better and better.
>
> Yes, Om. I am accusing you of making light of Zen's collapsed lung AND
> the untimely death of Elvis. My GOD, man, just what kind of demented
> person ARE you???

The same kind of demented person _you_ are dude. ;-)

>
> Seriously, the first question was a preface to my own attempt at humor
> in light of Zen's survival. God bless you and your continued good
> health, ZC.
>
> This second bit was a statement of fact and unrelated to any attempt
> at humor on my part. I believe the Valsalva effect is part of what
> killed Elvis.
>
> You may commence stuttering and stammering at your leisure.

Yes SIR! <salutes>

>
> And Zen, I meant no disrespect to you or your condition at any point
> in this conversation.
>
He knows...
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Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article
<6dc77742-80d5-474b-9775-1a8d76daa9cc@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 18, 10:24 pm, "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote
> > > On May 14, 1:28 pm, "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > [...]
> >
> > >> Doc said it had to do with the pressure it induceson the lungs, esp if
> > >> someone holds their breath during the exertion phase, which I probably do
> > >> too much.
> >
> > > I believe that's part of what killed Elvis.
> >
> > > The Valsalva effect a.k.a. holding your breath during exercise.
> > > Somethingsomething building up intrathoracic pressure which impedes
> > > the blood flow to and from the brain and might cause you to black out.
> >
> > > "If an individual holds his or her breath throughout the exercise,
> > > cardiac problems such as elevated blood pressure and irregular
> > > heartbeats may occur. An athlete who fails to breathe properly when
> > > exerting effort, especially during weight training, may experience a
> > > Valsalva effect. This reaction includes a rise in blood pressure,
> > > during which dizziness or fainting may occur." From:
> > > http://www.humankinetics.com/product...xcerpt_id=3082
> >
> > > With reduced lung capacity, I'm guessing the dangers might occur more
> > > readily?
> >
> > > Again, wishing you a full and speedy recovery, Zen.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > > (Watch out for those ninja assassins!)
> >
> > Actually I was running a gauntlet of wheelchair-bound ninja panhandlers. At
> > least I thnk they were ninjas.
>
> Zen, Zen, Zen, that is VERY insensitive to the plight of wheelchair-
> bound ninja panhandlers. Kindly post a retraction at your earliest
> convenience.
>
> And say you're sorry to Om for accusing him of, well, absolutely
> NOTHING!
>
>
>
> Okay, me too. Om, I'm sorry for accusing you of absolutely NOTHING. I
> hope you find it in your heart to forgive me for prefacing my own joke
> as well as stating something even slightly related to PubMeddish-type
> information. Forgive me?

Since when do I take the joshing on this list seriously. ;-D

>
> You supply the Boarshead and I'll bring a bottle of David's finest
> Chagrin. Maybe Charles will let us borrow the Bentley and we can
> cruise for wheelchair-bound ninja panhandler BABES!
>

What about their guard dogs?


> --
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmpomelet-2773B4.20324218052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <4830984e$0$5733$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I actually found a coupla support groups for this thing and it seems
>> a
>> number of the 'stricken' have been told by their docs that the VM can
>> cause
>> spontaneous collapse in vulnerable people. While I wouldn't mind
>> following
>> up with a doc who's a little more knowledgeable in this area, that's
>> good
>> enough for me to be more careful about my breathing when I start back
>> with
>> weights.
>
> Don't breath hold dude. That's only for competing powerlifters. There
> is no need for that in middle aged people like us.

Absolutely untrue. I understand avoiding breath holding if your doctor
says you must avoid it, but otherwise, it is _key_ to strength. Indeed,
understanding the role of breath in both strength and relaxation is a
cornerstone of mastering one's own body. And as it concerns strength,
it is not about breath holding per se but rather about increasing
intra-abdominal pressure which can be accomplished by breath holding as
well as a variety of related way like hissing and grunting at
appropriate times during a lift.

Steve "middle aged like you" Freides
http://www.kbnj.com


> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article <69dc1gF321de2U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

> > Don't breath hold dude. That's only for competing powerlifters. There
> > is no need for that in middle aged people like us.
>
> Absolutely untrue. I understand avoiding breath holding if your doctor
> says you must avoid it, but otherwise, it is _key_ to strength. Indeed,
> understanding the role of breath in both strength and relaxation is a
> cornerstone of mastering one's own body. And as it concerns strength,
> it is not about breath holding per se but rather about increasing
> intra-abdominal pressure which can be accomplished by breath holding as
> well as a variety of related way like hissing and grunting at
> appropriate times during a lift.
>
> Steve "middle aged like you" Freides
> http://www.kbnj.com

That's why I said "YMMV". ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

On May 19, 1:47 am, "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]

re Valsalva effect

> It also killed two of the Three Stooges.

What??? I did not know that. Which ones? Never mind! That's good
enough to Google.

re "I meant no disrespect to you"

> None taken. Honestly, though it was a scare at first, it's not bad other
> than having to take it easy for awhile. And it makes for a pretty good
> story. Just hope it's not one I might have to tell again.

No doubt. Get well soon!

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On May 19, 3:39 am, "Burr" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com>

> > And Zen, I meant no disrespect to you or your condition at any point
> > in this conversation.
>
> YES YOU DID
>
> bURR

C'mere! Someone needs a noogie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B0BQA_VZi0

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On May 19, 3:42 am, "Burr" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com>
>
> > You supply the Boarshead and I'll bring a bottle of David's finest
> > Chagrin. Maybe Charles will let us borrow the Bentley and we can
> > cruise for wheelchair-bound ninja panhandler BABES!

>
> OH, You a school teacher and your "into" BABES!!!!!!!!!
>
> Burr

I was informed by a grade schooler today that if you're over 35 and
not married then you're gay.

....

?!

I did not know that. And, yeah, safe to say I disagree. The
conversation was steered to Barney the Purple Dinosaur immediately,
btw.

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On May 19, 3:59 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> What about their guard dogs?

I believe they're all napping.

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On May 19, 9:01 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
[...]

> <snip>hissing and grunting at
> appropriate times during a lift.<snip>

PLANET FITNESS SAYS YOU SUCK! THERE IS NO APPROPRIATE TIME TO HISS OR
GRUNT DURING A LIFT!

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/planet.....2.239424.html

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Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> writes:

> On May 19, 3:42 am, "Burr" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > You supply the Boarshead and I'll bring a bottle of David's finest
>> > Chagrin. Maybe Charles will let us borrow the Bentley and we can
>> > cruise for wheelchair-bound ninja panhandler BABES!
>
>>
>> OH, You a school teacher and your "into" BABES!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Burr
>
> I was informed by a grade schooler today that if you're over 35 and
> not married then you're gay.

It's true.

> I did not know that.

And you call yourself a teacher. I thought everyone knew that.

> And, yeah, safe to say I disagree. The conversation was steered to
> Barney the Purple Dinosaur immediately, btw.

Barney is a bi-sexual pedophile. That's why his under-aged sidekicks
are called "B.J." and "Baby Bop." Apparently this type of behavior is
typical of big purple dinosaurs. In fact, it is believed by some that a
predilection for under-aged sexual partners contributed to the near
total extinction of the dinosaurs.

That seems like an awfully adult conversation to have with a grade
school aged child. Are you sure that your conversation was age
appropriate?

Jason

"Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d32c9dc4-39ba-4568-afcd-8cdc2d76c4f9@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On May 19, 1:47 am, "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
> re Valsalva effect
>
>> It also killed two of the Three Stooges. ;-)
>
> What??? I did not know that. Which ones?

Shemp and Curly Joe.

Never mind! That's good
> enough to Google.
>

Uh, don't bother. And just so there's no more confusion I amended my post
above to add winky.