I want to get MASSIVE!!!

Hello all. I have been trying to get bigger muscles particularly in
the chest and arm regions. I'm fairly new to this. I have routinely
worked out for the last 3-4 months and have not been able to achieve
desired results. My muscles are definitely becoming more define, but
not particularly bulky as I want them. I even take protien after each
work out and graze like a goat through the day on healthy foods. My
workout alternates by day. Day 1 = Biceps and chest, Day 2 Triceps and
finally Day 3 Cardio... I repeat this routine and will occasionally
mix in an extra cardio work out here or there. I don't know what I'm
doing wrong. I do my very best to maintain proper form in each
excersize. I really can't lift a whole lot. On the bench I press
135lbs. I will do 3 sets of 10 with this weight. I can max around
170lbs, but I'm pushing to get that. I curl 75lbs. Same number of set
and reps... And I will do about 3 seperate excersizes for each muscle
group. Any suggestions? If you needed more details I would be happy
to provide them.

Dnia 2008-07-10 papa smurf napisa³(a):
> Hello all. I have been trying to get bigger muscles particularly in
> the chest and arm regions. I'm fairly new to this. I have routinely
> worked out for the last 3-4 months and have not been able to achieve
> desired results. My muscles are definitely becoming more define, but
> not particularly bulky as I want them. I even take protien after each
> work out and graze like a goat through the day on healthy foods.

If you want to get massive, prepare yourself mentally to getting
actually fat, at least for a while. That's unfortunately how things
work. You'll gain muscles faster while simply gaining body mass, fat
and all. Nobody got massive without getting at least sorta chubby at
times. Seriously, I doubt it's worth it, but everybody's different.

> My
> workout alternates by day. Day 1 = Biceps and chest, Day 2 Triceps and
> finally Day 3 Cardio... I repeat this routine and will occasionally
> mix in an extra cardio work out here or there. I don't know what I'm
> doing wrong.

Your training sucks. First, train your back, or you'll look funny and
will develop serious shoulder problems withing a year or two if you
don't. If you want to get massive, do heavy pulls or at least shrugs.
Traps will make you look much bigger than biceps or triceps. Bodybuilding
is about optical illusions, but it really is hard to look massive without
actually being massive. Look at Ronnie Coleman back to see what heavy
pulls can do to you (then downscale it all by an order of magnitude).

So, let's say,
Day 1 - Chest and biceps (capitals as intended, biceps is a small
muscle, and you should work it pretty hard on your back day
anyway)
Day 2 - Heavy Pulls. Deadlifts, rows, chinups - that sort of thing.
Day 3 - Overhead Presses, shrugs, triceps.

Cardio? It just burns calories and burns you out. Don't overeat and
you don't need it.

> I do my very best to maintain proper form in each
> excersize. I really can't lift a whole lot. On the bench I press
> 135lbs. I will do 3 sets of 10 with this weight. I can max around
> 170lbs, but I'm pushing to get that. I curl 75lbs. Same number of set
> and reps... And I will do about 3 seperate excersizes for each muscle
> group. Any suggestions? If you needed more details I would be happy
> to provide them.

You should be able to deadlift twice your bodyweight. Next year!
Without being able to do so, you are a weakling. You should be able to
do at least ten good pullups. If you can't, you are either too weak or
too fat. I guarantee you that once you are able to do both, you will
look much better than you do now.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

"Andrzej Rosa"


Andrzej,
Your killing me! I'm fixing to pay the price right now after screwing
off all week. If it takes 3 hours to get it done I will do it.

Anybody read this months Men's Health about weights and diabetes? I was
riding more and lifting less but after reading that I'll stay with the three
workouts a week and ride as I can.

Burr

Dnia 2008-07-10 Burr napisa³(a):
>
> "Andrzej Rosa"
>
>
> Andrzej,
> Your killing me! I'm fixing to pay the price right now after screwing
> off all week. If it takes 3 hours to get it done I will do it.

I had vacations, from which I'm still in the recovery mode. Actually
I "rested" myself so badly, that my body is still to weak to heal small
cuts which I gathered around. Strange thing, but I really overtrained
myself with holidays... But tomorrow I start training again. Though,
as a mature and experienced trainer that I am, I won't jump head first
into it, but slowly build my load up (hint, hint). ;-)

> Anybody read this months Men's Health about weights and diabetes? I was
> riding more and lifting less but after reading that I'll stay with the three
> workouts a week and ride as I can.

That makes sense to me, though I didn't read the article. I just don't
buy into cardio much.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

http://www.erikandanna.com/Humor/Fla...k/beefcake.htm

"papa smurf" <DSOldham@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3cbd292b-6194-497a-bc08-ab478769e2f9@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hello all. I have been trying to get bigger muscles particularly in
> the chest and arm regions. I'm fairly new to this. I have routinely
> worked out for the last 3-4 months and have not been able to achieve
> desired results. My muscles are definitely becoming more define, but
> not particularly bulky as I want them. I even take protien after each
> work out and graze like a goat through the day on healthy foods. My
> workout alternates by day. Day 1 = Biceps and chest, Day 2 Triceps and
> finally Day 3 Cardio... I repeat this routine and will occasionally
> mix in an extra cardio work out here or there. I don't know what I'm
> doing wrong. I do my very best to maintain proper form in each
> excersize. I really can't lift a whole lot. On the bench I press
> 135lbs. I will do 3 sets of 10 with this weight. I can max around
> 170lbs, but I'm pushing to get that. I curl 75lbs. Same number of set
> and reps... And I will do about 3 seperate excersizes for each muscle
> group. Any suggestions? If you needed more details I would be happy
> to provide them.

You might try to cut your reps, increase the sets to keep the total
number of lifts the same, keep the rest period between sets short, and
increase the weight. Or at least cycle these variables so that, e.g.,
it's 3 sets of 10 in week 1, 5 sets of 5 in week 2, and 10 sets of 3 in
week 3.

And as Andrzej suggests, add something that involves the back and legs.

A book I own and enjoyed reading, although I don't follow its advice
because I'm not a bodybuilder, is "Beyond Bodybuilding", see
http://www.kbnj.com/bb.htm

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

hey
u better eat a lot of potato & egg after each workout.
it work's 4 me

"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
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> "papa smurf" <DSOldham@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3cbd292b-6194-497a-bc08-ab478769e2f9@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello all. I have been trying to get bigger muscles particularly in
>> the chest and arm regions. I'm fairly new to this. I have routinely
>> worked out for the last 3-4 months and have not been able to achieve
>> desired results. My muscles are definitely becoming more define, but
>> not particularly bulky as I want them. I even take protien after each
>> work out and graze like a goat through the day on healthy foods. My
>> workout alternates by day. Day 1 = Biceps and chest, Day 2 Triceps and
>> finally Day 3 Cardio... I repeat this routine and will occasionally
>> mix in an extra cardio work out here or there. I don't know what I'm
>> doing wrong. I do my very best to maintain proper form in each
>> excersize. I really can't lift a whole lot. On the bench I press
>> 135lbs. I will do 3 sets of 10 with this weight. I can max around
>> 170lbs, but I'm pushing to get that. I curl 75lbs. Same number of set
>> and reps... And I will do about 3 seperate excersizes for each muscle
>> group. Any suggestions? If you needed more details I would be happy
>> to provide them.
>
> You might try to cut your reps, increase the sets to keep the total number
> of lifts the same, keep the rest period between sets short, and increase
> the weight. Or at least cycle these variables so that, e.g., it's 3 sets
> of 10 in week 1, 5 sets of 5 in week 2, and 10 sets of 3 in week 3.
>
> And as Andrzej suggests, add something that involves the back and legs.
>
> A book I own and enjoyed reading, although I don't follow its advice
> because I'm not a bodybuilder, is "Beyond Bodybuilding", see
> http://www.kbnj.com/bb.htm

You're not a bodybuilder? With a 'physique' like yours?

>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>

Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dnia 2008-07-10 papa smurf napisał(a):
>> Hello all. I have been trying to get bigger muscles particularly in
>> the chest and arm regions. I'm fairly new to this. I have routinely
>> worked out for the last 3-4 months and have not been able to achieve
>> desired results. My muscles are definitely becoming more define, but
>> not particularly bulky as I want them. I even take protien after each
>> work out and graze like a goat through the day on healthy foods.
>
> If you want to get massive, prepare yourself mentally to getting
> actually fat, at least for a while. That's unfortunately how things
> work. You'll gain muscles faster while simply gaining body mass, fat
> and all. Nobody got massive without getting at least sorta chubby at
> times.

He's talking about MASSIVE, not massive. To get MASSIVE you may indeed
have get chubby first, but if you want to be just massive, or hoooge,
then you don't.

On Jul 11, 9:56*pm, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Steve Freides" <st...@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
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> > "papa smurf" <DSOld...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:3cbd292b-6194-497a-bc08-ab478769e2f9@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com....
> >> Hello all. I have been trying to get bigger muscles particularly in
> >> the chest and arm regions. I'm fairly new to this. I have routinely
> >> worked out for the last 3-4 months and have not been able to achieve
> >> desired results. My muscles are definitely becoming more define, but
> >> not particularly bulky as I want them. I even take protien after each
> >> work out and graze like a goat through the day on healthy foods. My
> >> workout alternates by day. Day 1 = Biceps and chest, Day 2 Triceps and
> >> finally Day 3 Cardio... I repeat this routine and will occasionally
> >> mix in an extra cardio work out here or there. I don't know what I'm
> >> doing wrong. I do my very best to maintain proper form in each
> >> excersize. I really can't lift a whole lot. On the bench I press
> >> 135lbs. I will do 3 sets of 10 with this weight. I can max around
> >> 170lbs, but I'm pushing to get that. I curl 75lbs. Same number of set
> >> and reps... And I will do about 3 seperate excersizes for each muscle
> >> group. Any suggestions? *If you needed more details I would be happy
> >> to provide them.
>
> > You might try to cut your reps, increase the sets to keep the total number
> > of lifts the same, keep the rest period between sets short, and increase
> > the weight. *Or at least cycle these variables so that, e.g., it's 3 sets
> > of 10 in week 1, 5 sets of 5 in week 2, and 10 sets of 3 in week 3.
>
> > And as Andrzej suggests, add something that involves the back and legs.
>
> > A book I own and enjoyed reading, although I don't follow its advice
> > because I'm not a bodybuilder, is "Beyond Bodybuilding", see
> >http://www.kbnj.com/bb.htm
>
> You're not a bodybuilder? With a 'physique' like yours?
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HEY
WHAT IS YOU'R PURPOSE??????

your training sucks man...

U have to train your legs like hell. U have completely ignored it.

Squats, deadlifts are the compound lifts which helps u gain mass.

Squat your own bodyweight barbell within 6 months. Then see the result

"Radhakrishna" <radhakrishna12@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> your training sucks man...
>
> U have to train your legs like hell. U have completely ignored it.
>
> Squats, deadlifts are the compound lifts which helps u gain mass.
>
> Squat your own bodyweight barbell within 6 months. Then see the result
>
>
Definitely. Squats, deadlifts, lunges, chest and also shoulders, military
press especially I find personally good. I found these exercises have given
me greater strength and size in other areas.