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Old 10-05-2007, 04:07 AM
Zen Cohen
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Default If you could only have one set of dumbells what weight would they be?

Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.


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Old 10-05-2007, 04:07 AM
Andrzej Rosa
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Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 04:19 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.


I'd prefer 100's. I'm not a Heracles, but I prefer bigger moves
involving more muscles, and you can do them better with heavier dumbbells.

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Old 10-05-2007, 04:44 AM
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"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 04:19 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
>> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.

>
> I'd prefer 100's. I'm not a Heracles,


Do you mean Hercules? Heraclitus? (Not that I give a flux)


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Old 10-05-2007, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: If you could only have one set of dumbells what weight would they be?

On Oct 4, 7:19 pm, "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.


Powerblock 5-125 lb selectorized dbs.

David

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Old 10-05-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: If you could only have one set of dumbells what weight would they be?

In article <47059f1f$0$24341$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.
>
>


I have one set of fixed dumbbells - 60#'s.

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Old 10-05-2007, 03:24 PM
Andrzej Rosa
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Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 05:26 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
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> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fe48ag$soa$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
>> Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 04:19 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
>>> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.

>>
>> I'd prefer 100's. I'm not a Heracles,

>
> Do you mean Hercules? Heraclitus?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracles

> (Not that I give a flux)


Oh, never mind then.

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Old 10-05-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: If you could only have one set of dumbells what weight wouldthey be?

On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Zen Cohen wrote:

> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fe48ag$soa$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
>> Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 04:19 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
>>> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.

>>
>> I'd prefer 100's. I'm not a Heracles,

>
> Do you mean Hercules? Heraclitus?


I reckon it should either be Hercules or Herakles. Transliterating kappa
as 'c' is bad and wrong, IMNERHO.

> (Not that I give a flux)


Hey, i make the classical puns round here, thank you very much!

tom

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Old 10-05-2007, 06:40 PM
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"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 05:26 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
>>
>> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:fe48ag$soa$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>> Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 04:19 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
>>>> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer 100's. I'm not a Heracles,

>>
>> Do you mean Hercules? Heraclitus?

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracles


Thanks. I have to be spoon-fed the meaning of any words unfamiliar to me
(I'm a 'merkin, ya know).



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Old 10-05-2007, 06:40 PM
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"Tom Anderson" <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Zen Cohen wrote:
>
>> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:fe48ag$soa$2@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>> Dnia Fri, 05 Oct 2007 o 04:19 GMT Zen Cohen napisał(a):
>>>> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer 100's. I'm not a Heracles,

>>
>> Do you mean Hercules? Heraclitus?

>
> I reckon it should either be Hercules or Herakles. Transliterating kappa
> as 'c' is bad and wrong, IMNERHO.
>
>> (Not that I give a flux)

>
> Hey, i make the classical puns round here, thank you very much!


I think that might be the only one in me and it's recycled. One of the
philosophy classes I took in college went on and on and on about the
scholarly debate over Heraclitus's flux. In the paper I had to write on it,
I think one of the headings was "The Debate: Who Gives a Flux?"


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Old 10-05-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: If you could only have one set of dumbells what weight would they be?

If I had to choose, I'd take the 35's.

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Old 10-06-2007, 12:04 AM
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"Hobbes" <khobman800@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <47059f1f$0$24341$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.
>>
>>

>
> I have one set of fixed dumbbells - 60#'s.


That is actually the size I was thinking of as well. That's my usual
choice for one-armed overhead presses as it's about 6-7 rep max and I
train doubles and triples with it.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


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Old 10-06-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: If you could only have one set of dumbells what weight would they be?

In article <5mnslqFejsejU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

> "Hobbes" <khobman800@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:khobman800-F24B2D.08010005102007@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> > In article <47059f1f$0$24341$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> > "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.
> >>
> >>

> >
> > I have one set of fixed dumbbells - 60#'s.

>
> That is actually the size I was thinking of as well. That's my usual
> choice for one-armed overhead presses as it's about 6-7 rep max and I
> train doubles and triples with it.


I actually don't use them that much. Most of my home training is
complexes, tumbling and striking. But that is what I have!

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Old 10-06-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: If you could only have one set of dumbells what weight wouldthey be?

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Steve Freides wrote:

> "Hobbes" <khobman800@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:khobman800-F24B2D.08010005102007@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
>> In article <47059f1f$0$24341$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I'd love to say 100's but I gotta go with 35's.

>>
>> I have one set of fixed dumbbells - 60#'s.

>
> That is actually the size I was thinking of as well. That's my usual
> choice for one-armed overhead presses as it's about 6-7 rep max and I
> train doubles and triples with it.


I'd say 45s, for more or less the same reson - it's what i currently
shoulder press. It's also what i'm curling, albeit badly. It wouldn't be
enough for bench presses, but might i manage some flyes? Also not enough
for upright or bent-over rows, but maybe front raises and reverse flyes,
at least low-rep partial ones!

But i expect that in a matter of weeks, it'd be the 50s i wanted for the
same reasons. Surely a fixed set at any weight isn't useful in the long
run? Hmm, maybe if there was a dumbbell library, where you could check out
any one weight at a time ...

tom

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Old 10-06-2007, 07:19 PM
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"Tom Anderson" <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
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> Surely a fixed set at any weight isn't useful in the long run?


This is part of what makes kettlebell training so interesting - a whole
methodology (for lack of a better word) has evolved around using a few,
fixed sizes. Lesson learned from bodyweight/gymnastics and elsewhere about
using leverage and technique to make lighter weights effectively harder -
all sorts of interesting stuff. While I think it's accurate to say having
only a few, fixed weights is insufficient for a competitive weight lifter, I
think it's equally accurate to say it can be sufficient for the most other,
general, strength and conditioning purposes. Knowing what I know now, I
could keep myself in good shape with a single kettlebell.

-S-
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:23 PM
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Dnia Sat, 06 Oct 2007 o 11:45 GMT Tom Anderson napisał(a):
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> That is actually the size I was thinking of as well. That's my usual
>> choice for one-armed overhead presses as it's about 6-7 rep max and I
>> train doubles and triples with it.

>
> I'd say 45s, for more or less the same reson - it's what i currently
> shoulder press. It's also what i'm curling, albeit badly. It wouldn't be
> enough for bench presses, but might i manage some flyes? Also not enough
> for upright or bent-over rows, but maybe front raises and reverse flyes,
> at least low-rep partial ones!
>
> But i expect that in a matter of weeks, it'd be the 50s i wanted for the
> same reasons. Surely a fixed set at any weight isn't useful in the long
> run?


It depends what you do with it. If you follow a training system which
_assumes_ that you can adjust weight easily, it will not be all that
useful, but increasing weight isn't the only way of increasing
resistance. You can use leverage, like you proposed above.

> Hmm, maybe if there was a dumbbell library, where you could check out
> any one weight at a time ...


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