Im hardly over-training, am I?

Hey again ...

At what point does over-training commence? I ask not because Im
working up a heavy sweat in the gym everyday, but rather because at
the moment I am restricting myself to benching (Ive picked up a few
sprains and strains that I want to rest).

Ive finally gotten some more weights. Added 30lb to my barbell so I am
now pressing a paltry 60% of my body weight. Embarrassingly its a bit
of a challenge. What Ive been doing is doing 8 reps throughout the day
(I have my bench right beside me for most of the day). Probably
averaging one set every hour or two.

My aim is to try and quickly build up the strength for new weight, but
I wonder if this kind of frequent, intense, but very short exercise
might be considered over-training and harmful.

Should I limit myself to 3 narrowly spaced sets to get better results
or does what Im doing sound okay for the short term? I personally
emjoy doing it this way ...

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, pietromas@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey again ...
>
> At what point does over-training commence? I ask not because Im
> working up a heavy sweat in the gym everyday, but rather because at
> the moment I am restricting myself to benching (Ive picked up a few
> sprains and strains that I want to rest).
>
> Ive finally gotten some more weights. Added 30lb to my barbell so I am
> now pressing a paltry 60% of my body weight. Embarrassingly its a bit
> of a challenge. What Ive been doing is doing 8 reps throughout the day
> (I have my bench right beside me for most of the day). Probably
> averaging one set every hour or two.
>
> My aim is to try and quickly build up the strength for new weight, but
> I wonder if this kind of frequent, intense, but very short exercise
> might be considered over-training and harmful.
>
> Should I limit myself to 3 narrowly spaced sets to get better results
> or does what Im doing sound okay for the short term? I personally
> emjoy doing it this way ...
>
>

Take a look at: http://www.exrx.net/ExInfo/Overtraining.html

--Sir Jackery

pietromas@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey again ...
>
> At what point does over-training commence? I ask not because Im
> working up a heavy sweat in the gym everyday, but rather because at
> the moment I am restricting myself to benching (Ive picked up a few
> sprains and strains that I want to rest).
>
> Ive finally gotten some more weights. Added 30lb to my barbell so I am
> now pressing a paltry 60% of my body weight. Embarrassingly its a bit
> of a challenge. What Ive been doing is doing 8 reps throughout the day
> (I have my bench right beside me for most of the day). Probably
> averaging one set every hour or two.
>
> My aim is to try and quickly build up the strength for new weight, but
> I wonder if this kind of frequent, intense, but very short exercise
> might be considered over-training and harmful.
>
> Should I limit myself to 3 narrowly spaced sets to get better results
> or does what Im doing sound okay for the short term? I personally
> emjoy doing it this way ...

As long as you enjoy it, there should be no problem with overtraining.
You are probably outpacing your recovery abilities, but you don't plan
on doing it this way forever, so no problem, I think. I'd add at least
rows to your routine, though (rows and narrow grip hang snatches would
be ideal). Otherwise you'll most likely develop an imbalanced
musculature around your shoulder girdle, which might easily result in
injuries later on.

Besides, you'd look much better (and bigger) with proper posture.

--
Andrzej Rosa

i agree, its not good to only do 1 b/p if poss.

however if the rest of you is injured... (maybe you could get a few more
bodyparts in.. legs? delts?)

i not too keen on the whole overtraining philosophy at the mo,... i under
trained for years because of it and that limited my gains more than
overtraining was reputed to do!!

how about some flyes and inc bench too? can do 1arm flys with barbell.. (1
unloaded end in a corner and the other end loaded (light) in your hand.
stand facing wall and bring bar in front of you...) it a good one if you can
understand my jumbled explanation!]

train as much as you feel your joints can handle it. eat plenty, watch out
for twinges in your elbow,wrist an shoulder, warm up and cool down
thorough.... jobs a good'un!!
"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eskmpq$p6q$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> pietromas@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey again ...
>>
>> At what point does over-training commence? I ask not because Im
>> working up a heavy sweat in the gym everyday, but rather because at
>> the moment I am restricting myself to benching (Ive picked up a few
>> sprains and strains that I want to rest).
>>
>> Ive finally gotten some more weights. Added 30lb to my barbell so I am
>> now pressing a paltry 60% of my body weight. Embarrassingly its a bit
>> of a challenge. What Ive been doing is doing 8 reps throughout the day
>> (I have my bench right beside me for most of the day). Probably
>> averaging one set every hour or two.
>>
>> My aim is to try and quickly build up the strength for new weight, but
>> I wonder if this kind of frequent, intense, but very short exercise
>> might be considered over-training and harmful.
>>
>> Should I limit myself to 3 narrowly spaced sets to get better results
>> or does what Im doing sound okay for the short term? I personally
>> emjoy doing it this way ...
>
> As long as you enjoy it, there should be no problem with overtraining.
> You are probably outpacing your recovery abilities, but you don't plan
> on doing it this way forever, so no problem, I think. I'd add at least
> rows to your routine, though (rows and narrow grip hang snatches would
> be ideal). Otherwise you'll most likely develop an imbalanced
> musculature around your shoulder girdle, which might easily result in
> injuries later on.
>
> Besides, you'd look much better (and bigger) with proper posture.
>
> --
> Andrzej Rosa

On Mar 6, 10:41 pm, "Brook" <brook_...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> i agree, its not good to only do 1 b/p if poss.
>
> however if the rest of you is injured... (maybe you could get a few more
> bodyparts in.. legs? delts?)
>
> i not too keen on the whole overtraining philosophy at the mo,... i under
> trained for years because of it and that limited my gains more than
> overtraining was reputed to do!!
>
> how about some flyes and inc bench too? can do 1arm flys with barbell.. (1
> unloaded end in a corner and the other end loaded (light) in your hand.
> stand facing wall and bring bar in front of you...) it a good one if you can
> understand my jumbled explanation!]
>
> train as much as you feel your joints can handle it. eat plenty, watch out
> for twinges in your elbow,wrist an shoulder, warm up and cool down
> thorough.... jobs a good'un!!"Andrzej Rosa" <bakt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:eskmpq$p6q$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>
> > pietro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> Hey again ...
>
> >> At what point does over-training commence? I ask not because Im
> >> working up a heavy sweat in the gym everyday, but rather because at
> >> the moment I am restricting myself to benching (Ive picked up a few
> >> sprains and strains that I want to rest).
>
> >> Ive finally gotten some more weights. Added 30lb to my barbell so I am
> >> now pressing a paltry 60% of my body weight. Embarrassingly its a bit
> >> of a challenge. What Ive been doing is doing 8 reps throughout the day
> >> (I have my bench right beside me for most of the day). Probably
> >> averaging one set every hour or two.
>
> >> My aim is to try and quickly build up the strength for new weight, but
> >> I wonder if this kind of frequent, intense, but very short exercise
> >> might be considered over-training and harmful.
>
> >> Should I limit myself to 3 narrowly spaced sets to get better results
> >> or does what Im doing sound okay for the short term? I personally
> >> emjoy doing it this way ...
>
> > As long as you enjoy it, there should be no problem with overtraining.
> > You are probably outpacing your recovery abilities, but you don't plan
> > on doing it this way forever, so no problem, I think. I'd add at least
> > rows to your routine, though (rows and narrow grip hang snatches would
> > be ideal). Otherwise you'll most likely develop an imbalanced
> > musculature around your shoulder girdle, which might easily result in
> > injuries later on.
>
> > Besides, you'd look much better (and bigger) with proper posture.
>
> > --
> > Andrzej Rosa

I think it was actually flys that did the damage. Was doing 9 sets (3
inc, 3 flat, 3 dec) and strained my shoulders and sprained my wrists
(though that could have been due to new hammer curls) soon afterwards.
Shoulders are feeling better but I havent rested my wrists properly.
And now Im starting to feel a sprain in one elbow with the heavier
presses. Sigh. But my main q was about over-training pecs/triceps and
I feel more comfortable about that now. Thanks.

<pietromas@gmail.com> schreef:

> I think it was actually flys that did the damage. Was doing 9 sets (3
> inc, 3 flat, 3 dec) and strained my shoulders...

I am willing to bet the decline stuff fucked you up.

If you insist on doing it, use a bar. Your lower chest will stop the bar
from going too deep and limits the ROM.

DBs dont, and fuck you up.

--
Pete

pietromas@gmail.com wrote:

>> > As long as you enjoy it, there should be no problem with overtraining.
>> > You are probably outpacing your recovery abilities, but you don't plan
>> > on doing it this way forever, so no problem, I think. I'd add at least
>> > rows to your routine, though (rows and narrow grip hang snatches would
>> > be ideal). Otherwise you'll most likely develop an imbalanced
>> > musculature around your shoulder girdle, which might easily result in
>> > injuries later on.
>>
>> > Besides, you'd look much better (and bigger) with proper posture.
>>
>
> I think it was actually flys that did the damage. Was doing 9 sets (3
> inc, 3 flat, 3 dec) and strained my shoulders and sprained my wrists
> (though that could have been due to new hammer curls) soon afterwards.
> Shoulders are feeling better but I havent rested my wrists properly.
> And now Im starting to feel a sprain in one elbow with the heavier
> presses. Sigh. But my main q was about over-training pecs/triceps and
> I feel more comfortable about that now. Thanks.

It might be your main question, but it doesn't look like your main
problem. It seems that you are on your way to injure yourself. Think
about what I wrote. It makes sense.

--
Andrzej Rosa