Lyle's books - anyone read?

Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention. As
a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I
seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly,
and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a
week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.

I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these, could
you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I want
to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that will
just enhance or maximize my results.

"determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
> books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
> several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention.
> As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6
> months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty
> consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still
> exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but
> I'm at a plateau.
>
> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
> Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
> could you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm
> not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where
> I want to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life
> that will just enhance or maximize my results.

I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book) was
an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the maintenance of
desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a slower, more gradual
(for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To Flexible Dieting" might be
more appropriate.

You could wander over to www.bodyrecomposition.com and read some of the
articles and browse around the forums go get a flavor of it all.

Don't tell Lyle the atheist Jew sent you, or he'll charge you double.

David

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
<determined@comcast.nest> wrote:

>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention. As
>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I
>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly,
>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a
>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>
>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these, could
>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I want
>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that will
>just enhance or maximize my results.
>

What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
><determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>
>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
>>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention. As
>>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I
>>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly,
>>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a
>>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>
>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these, could
>>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
>>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I want
>>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that will
>>just enhance or maximize my results.
>>
>
>What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?

And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
printing, distribution or publishing costs.

Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp it!

Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(

"Joe Humble" <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bprfl25q77fq5ikce4m9oms5a8uu5jc0ta@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
> <determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>
>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>his
>>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>retention. As
>>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6
>>months, I
>>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty
>>consistantly,
>>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4
>>days a
>>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a
>>plateau.
>>
>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid
>>Fatloss
>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>>could
>>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm
>>not
>>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where
>>I want
>>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life
>>that will
>>just enhance or maximize my results.
>>
>
> What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?

He's smart enough to have stopped frequenting mfw - 'nuff said 'cause,
right there, he's smarter than all of us here.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


> --
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"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
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> "Joe Humble" <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:bprfl25q77fq5ikce4m9oms5a8uu5jc0ta@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>> <determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>
>>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>>his
>>>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>>>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention.
>>>As
>>>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6
>>>months, I
>>>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty
>>>consistantly,
>>>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days
>>>a
>>>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>
>>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>>>could
>>>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
>>>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I
>>>want
>>>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that
>>>will
>>>just enhance or maximize my results.
>>>
>>
>> What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>
> He's smart enough to have stopped frequenting mfw - 'nuff said 'cause,
> right there, he's smarter than all of us here.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>
>> --
>> Is this thing on?
>
>
>

determined wrote:
> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
> books.

lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.

didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
it seemed something like that.

either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.

<kcmunchkin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163445291.942261.142450@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>
> determined wrote:
>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>> his
>> books.
>
> lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
> 5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
> WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
> pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
> growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.
>
> didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
> into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
> it seemed something like that.
>
> either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
> to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.
>

Unlike yourself, who doesn't have a library card and couldn't repackage a
Tonka toy.

Whatever you say about Lyle, he does do his research. So much, that he
reviews a research article every week on his e-mail weekly publication. And
he has read thousands of them as well. How many research reports have you
read?

And he fields questions from people as well. And answers them on weekly
newsletter. And his knowldge is such, that he is able to talk to the top
trainers in the country as an equal. They all know who he is. Does anybody
know who you are?

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:w_N5h.5612$l25.802@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>
> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>> his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>> several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention.
>> As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6
>> months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty
>> consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still
>> exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but
>> I'm at a plateau.
>>
>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>> Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>> could you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm
>> not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where
>> I want to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life
>> that will just enhance or maximize my results.
>
> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book)
> was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the
> maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a slower,
> more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To Flexible
> Dieting" might be more appropriate.

About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid" approach.
But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that this is a permanent
change in my way of life, that incorporates regular exercise and healthy
diet, forever. I'd like to improve my body composition as well, but my
chief goal now is fitness.

"determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>> his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to
>>> have several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>> retention. As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and
>>> exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat
>>> came off pretty consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a snail's
>>> pace. I still exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are still below
>>> maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>
>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>> Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>>> could you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me?
>>> I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get
>>> where I want to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to
>>> my life that will just enhance or maximize my results.
>>
>> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book)
>> was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the
>> maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a
>> slower, more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To
>> Flexible Dieting" might be more appropriate.
>
> About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid" approach.
> But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that this is a
> permanent change in my way of life, that incorporates regular exercise and
> healthy diet, forever. I'd like to improve my body composition as well,
> but my chief goal now is fitness.

I have the same goal, but have figured out a way to do it that "works" for
me. I hate...no, HATE!!!!...maintenance or slightly below maintenance
eating. It is sheer torture for me. So, using periodic PSMF diets...as often
and for as long as necessary...I fluctuate between as lean as I want to be
and as fat as I'm willing to tolerate.

My diet on a PSMF is relatively healthy due to a shitload of supplements to
replace all the good stuff in carbs, and my diet off PSMF is as healthy as I
want it to be, with no specific caloric restrictions.

It works for me.

Your's, or anyone else's, results may vary.

David

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote in message
newsN56h.5924$l25.1463@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>>> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
>>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one
>>>> of his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he
>>>> seems to have several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss
>>>> and muscle retention. As a female who has been pretty diligent with
>>>> diet and exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit a wall. The
>>>> weight and fat came off pretty consistantly, and then it just
>>>> tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a week, and
>>>> my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>>
>>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid
>>>> Fatloss Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or
>>>> both of these, could you shed some light on which one may be most
>>>> applicable to me? I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if
>>>> it takes a year to get where I want to be. I'm looking for a
>>>> program or method I can apply to my life that will just enhance or
>>>> maximize my results.
>>>
>>> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet
>>> book) was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying
>>> the maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want
>>> a slower, more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To
>>> Flexible Dieting" might be more appropriate.
>>
>> About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid"
>> approach. But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that
>> this is a permanent change in my way of life, that incorporates
>> regular exercise and healthy diet, forever. I'd like to improve my
>> body composition as well, but my chief goal now is fitness.
>
> I have the same goal, but have figured out a way to do it that "works"
> for me. I hate...no, HATE!!!!...maintenance or slightly below
> maintenance eating. It is sheer torture for me. So, using periodic
> PSMF diets...as often and for as long as necessary...I fluctuate
> between as lean as I want to be and as fat as I'm willing to tolerate.
>
> My diet on a PSMF is relatively healthy due to a shitload of
> supplements to replace all the good stuff in carbs, and my diet off
> PSMF is as healthy as I want it to be, with no specific caloric
> restrictions.
>
> It works for me.
>
> Your's, or anyone else's, results may vary.

I think there is a lot to be said for cyclic eating once you get to a
basically healthy weight. Our bodies seem to like it, and at the very
least, I think it prevents us from taking eating for granted.

Cyclic training is good, too.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote >>
>>>> "determined" <determined@comcast.nest> wrote
>>>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>>>> his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to
>>>>> have several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>>>> retention. As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and
>>>>> exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat
>>>>> came off pretty consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a
>>>>> snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are
>>>>> still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid
>>>>> Fatloss Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both
>>>>> of these, could you shed some light on which one may be most
>>>>> applicable to me? I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it
>>>>> takes a year to get where I want to be. I'm looking for a program or
>>>>> method I can apply to my life that will just enhance or maximize my
>>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> I've read 'em all. For me, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (the PSMF diet book)
>>>> was an epiphany...greatly improving my health and simplifying the
>>>> maintenance of desired body weight. But, it sounds like you want a
>>>> slower, more gradual (for me, torturous) approach, so, "A Guide To
>>>> Flexible Dieting" might be more appropriate.
>>>
>>> About 3 months ago, I would have definitely gone for the "rapid"
>>> approach. But at this point, I'm settling more into the idea that this
>>> is a permanent change in my way of life, that incorporates regular
>>> exercise and healthy diet, forever. I'd like to improve my body
>>> composition as well, but my chief goal now is fitness.
>>
>> I have the same goal, but have figured out a way to do it that "works"
>> for me. I hate...no, HATE!!!!...maintenance or slightly below maintenance
>> eating. It is sheer torture for me. So, using periodic PSMF diets...as
>> often and for as long as necessary...I fluctuate between as lean as I
>> want to be and as fat as I'm willing to tolerate.
>>
>> My diet on a PSMF is relatively healthy due to a shitload of supplements
>> to replace all the good stuff in carbs, and my diet off PSMF is as
>> healthy as I want it to be, with no specific caloric restrictions.
>>
>> It works for me.
>>
>> Your's, or anyone else's, results may vary.
>
> I think there is a lot to be said for cyclic eating once you get to a
> basically healthy weight. Our bodies seem to like it, and at the very
> least, I think it prevents us from taking eating for granted.

I hadn't thought of that aspect before, but you are correct. Cyclic eating
certainly mimics our evolutionary patterns.

A nice broiled mastodon steak would taste good right now...

David

kcmunchkin@gmail.com wrote:

>determined wrote:
>
>
>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
>>books.
>>
>>
>
>lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
>5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
>WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
>pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
>growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.
>
>didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
>into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
>it seemed something like that.
>
>either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
>to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.
>
>
>
You are a fucking idiot. Tell Mr. Anonymous, what the fuck do you know
about diet? Are you going to make the same claim about Duchaine's Body
Opus too? Both he and Lyle's diets were much different than the Atkins,
so this just shows what a fucking moron you are.

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"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Charles wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>><determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
>>>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>>>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention. As
>>>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I
>>>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly,
>>>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a
>>>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>
>>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these, could
>>>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
>>>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I want
>>>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that will
>>>just enhance or maximize my results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>>
>>
>
>And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
>printing, distribution or publishing costs.
>
>Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
>been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp it!
>
>Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
>
>
Shut up you fucking moron. You don't know the first thing about Diet,
training of ANYTHING that relates to this newsgroup, so what exactly is
your role besides being a moronic troll??

--
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

> Money changes people.

I'll pay you $5 to stop being a boring douchebag troll.

David

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
<rob@robschuhpolycock.com> wrote:

>Charles wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>>><determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of his
>>>>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>>>>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle retention. As
>>>>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I
>>>>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly,
>>>>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4 days a
>>>>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>>
>>>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these, could
>>>>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
>>>>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I want
>>>>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that will
>>>>just enhance or maximize my results.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
>>printing, distribution or publishing costs.
>>
>>Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
>>been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp it!
>>
>>Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
>>
>>

>Shut up you fucking moron. You don't know the first thing about Diet,
>training of ANYTHING that relates to this newsgroup, so what exactly is
>your role besides being a moronic troll??
>

Well at least you've dropped the "anonymous" tag you rabid fucking
cretin.

Every post you make is the same old angry little man rubbish, having a
go at those that you think didn't know you in your so-called glory
days, when you were a vain, pumped up little pimp.

You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
miserable prick!

HTH! ;o)

Charles wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
> <rob@robschuhpolycock.com> wrote:
>
>> Charles wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble
>>> <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>>>> <determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading
>>>>> one of his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though,
>>>>> he seems to have several that touch on my goals of overall fat
>>>>> loss and muscle retention. As a female who has been pretty
>>>>> diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit
>>>>> a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly, and
>>>>> then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4
>>>>> days a week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm
>>>>> at a plateau.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid
>>>>> Fatloss Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or
>>>>> both of these, could you shed some light on which one may be most
>>>>> applicable to me? I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care
>>>>> if it takes a year to get where I want to be. I'm looking for a
>>>>> program or method I can apply to my life that will just enhance
>>>>> or maximize my results.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he
>>>> says?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
>>> printing, distribution or publishing costs.
>>>
>>> Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
>>> been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp
>>> it!
>>>
>>> Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
>>>
>>>
>
>> Shut up you fucking moron. You don't know the first thing about Diet,
>> training of ANYTHING that relates to this newsgroup, so what exactly
>> is your role besides being a moronic troll??
>>
>
> Well at least you've dropped the "anonymous" tag you rabid fucking
> cretin.
>
> Every post you make is the same old angry little man rubbish, having a
> go at those that you think didn't know you in your so-called glory
> days, when you were a vain, pumped up little pimp.
>
> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
> miserable prick!
>
> HTH! ;o)

Have a great Tuesday John, I intend to!!

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:38:57 -0000, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
wrote:

>Charles wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
>> <rob@robschuhpolycock.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Charles wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble
>>>> <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>>>>> <determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading
>>>>>> one of his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though,
>>>>>> he seems to have several that touch on my goals of overall fat
>>>>>> loss and muscle retention. As a female who has been pretty
>>>>>> diligent with diet and exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit
>>>>>> a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty consistantly, and
>>>>>> then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4
>>>>>> days a week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm
>>>>>> at a plateau.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid
>>>>>> Fatloss Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or
>>>>>> both of these, could you shed some light on which one may be most
>>>>>> applicable to me? I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care
>>>>>> if it takes a year to get where I want to be. I'm looking for a
>>>>>> program or method I can apply to my life that will just enhance
>>>>>> or maximize my results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he
>>>>> says?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
>>>> printing, distribution or publishing costs.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
>>>> been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp
>>>> it!
>>>>
>>>> Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>> Shut up you fucking moron. You don't know the first thing about Diet,
>>> training of ANYTHING that relates to this newsgroup, so what exactly
>>> is your role besides being a moronic troll??
>>>
>>
>> Well at least you've dropped the "anonymous" tag you rabid fucking
>> cretin.
>>
>> Every post you make is the same old angry little man rubbish, having a
>> go at those that you think didn't know you in your so-called glory
>> days, when you were a vain, pumped up little pimp.
>>
>> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
>> miserable prick!
>>
>> HTH! ;o)
>
>Have a great Tuesday John, I intend to!!

Why thank you dear fellow, how very kind; heartily reciprocated Neil.

In fact Tuesday is always a good day, having got Monday out of the
way. It's also a CV day at the gym which is much shorter than weights
days, and much easier for some good old mutual admiration type gossip
with the ladies! ;o)

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:38:57 -0000, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
wrote:

>Charles wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh

>>>>>>

>>
>> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
>> miserable prick!
>>
>> HTH! ;o)
>
>Have a great Tuesday John, I intend to!!

I knew something was missing. Thank you for setting the newsgroup
right Bully.

I would have been tempted to do so myself, but it's better that you
did. You and John type with the same accent (though you guys may not
hear it).

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:49:21 -0500, "Steve Freides"
<steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

>"Joe Humble" <joehumble@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:bprfl25q77fq5ikce4m9oms5a8uu5jc0ta@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>> <determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>
>>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>
>> What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>
>He's smart enough to have stopped frequenting mfw - 'nuff said 'cause,
>right there, he's smarter than all of us here.
>

You make a good point.

I was smart enough to leave. Then I came back.

And now I do more than lurk ... I post sometimes. Which has got to be
a bad sign regarding my state of mental health.

Well ... at least I rarely post anything useful. There must be hope
for me yet.

d wells wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:38:57 -0000, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
> wrote:
>
>> Charles wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
>
>>>>>>>
>
>>>
>>> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
>>> miserable prick!
>>>
>>> HTH! ;o)
>>
>> Have a great Tuesday John, I intend to!!
>
> I knew something was missing. Thank you for setting the newsgroup
> right Bully.
>
> I would have been tempted to do so myself, but it's better that you
> did.

Well no, you might have actually meant it!


> You and John type with the same accent (though you guys may not
> hear it).

No, we don't at all. He's got either a country bumpkin or a nasty East
London accent [depending on where he was brought up -- I'm guessing it was
one of those two] whilst I have a fairly neutral Midlands accent [no, not a
Brummy accent for any clever bastard who would like to suggest as much].

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

d wells wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:38:57 -0000, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
>wrote:
>
>>Charles wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
>
>>>>>>>
>
>>>
>>> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
>>> miserable prick!
>>>
>>> HTH! ;o)
>>
>>Have a great Tuesday John, I intend to!!
>
>I knew something was missing. Thank you for setting the newsgroup
>right Bully.
>
>I would have been tempted to do so myself, but it's better that you
>did. You and John type with the same accent (though you guys may not
>hear it).

But on Monday mornings, he types it VERY LOUDLY!

In article <24-dncu6jZrKRcXYnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:

> <kcmunchkin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163445291.942261.142450@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > determined wrote:
> >> Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
> >> his
> >> books.
> >
> > lyle managed to jump on the atkins-style diet bandwagon 3-4 (or, was is
> > 5-6?) years after this type of dieting started to come back after the
> > WBF/DiPasquale debacle in 1992. opitimum training systems started
> > pushing dipasquale's "anabolic diet" in their follow-up to serious
> > growth/bulgarian burst called serious growth 3: big beyond belief.
> >
> > didn't he start out at like 174 with a high bf% and get down somewhere
> > into the 150's? i can't remember what his first posts were like, but
> > it seemed something like that.
> >
> > either way, he was/is just another guy with a library card who managed
> > to repackage a diet and sell it as his own.
> >
>
> Unlike yourself, who doesn't have a library card and couldn't repackage a
> Tonka toy.
>
> Whatever you say about Lyle, he does do his research. So much, that he
> reviews a research article every week on his e-mail weekly publication. And
> he has read thousands of them as well. How many research reports have you
> read?
>
> And he fields questions from people as well. And answers them on weekly
> newsletter. And his knowldge is such, that he is able to talk to the top
> trainers in the country as an equal. They all know who he is. Does anybody
> know who you are?
>
>
Like any good scientist Lyle builds on the works of others. That is what
science is all about. He gives full credit to the Bodyopus diet and uses
references in his book.

--
Keith

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:12:27 -0500, JMW
<jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>d wells wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:38:57 -0000, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Charles wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
>>>> miserable prick!
>>>>
>>>> HTH! ;o)
>>>
>>>Have a great Tuesday John, I intend to!!
>>
>>I knew something was missing. Thank you for setting the newsgroup
>>right Bully.
>>
>>I would have been tempted to do so myself, but it's better that you
>>did. You and John type with the same accent (though you guys may not
>>hear it).
>
>But on Monday mornings, he types it VERY LOUDLY!

Not true old chum, the keys are always muted on Mondays! ;o)

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:11:52 -0000, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
wrote:

>d wells wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:38:57 -0000, "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Charles wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
>>>> miserable prick!
>>>>
>>>> HTH! ;o)
>>>
>>> Have a great Tuesday John, I intend to!!
>>
>> I knew something was missing. Thank you for setting the newsgroup
>> right Bully.
>>
>> I would have been tempted to do so myself, but it's better that you
>> did.
>
>Well no, you might have actually meant it!
>
>
>> You and John type with the same accent (though you guys may not
>> hear it).
>
>No, we don't at all. He's got either a country bumpkin or a nasty East
>London accent

Leave it art mate, I talks proper, as is wot you well know an all
like!

> [depending on where he was brought up -- I'm guessing it was
>one of those two] whilst I have a fairly neutral Midlands accent [no, not a
>Brummy accent for any clever bastard who would like to suggest as much].

Ooh are our bab, yure as common as bleedin mook, an that's true enuff
int it?

Dnia 2006-11-14 Hobbes napisa³(a):
> Like any good scientist Lyle builds on the works of others. That is what
> science is all about. He gives full credit to the Bodyopus diet and uses
> references in his book.

DZ is a scientist; Lyle, for all I know, is a scholar who was a
scientist once.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:130jl2p5l40h391kfsnb02p19huihslcuk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:14:32 -0700, Robert Schuh
> <rob@robschuhpolycock.com> wrote:
>
>>Charles wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>>>><determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>>>>his
>>>>>books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to have
>>>>>several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>>>>retention. As
>>>>>a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and exercise for 6
>>>>>months, I
>>>>>seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat came off pretty
>>>>>consistantly,
>>>>>and then it just tapered off to a snail's pace. I still exercise 4
>>>>>days a
>>>>>week, and my calories are still below maintenance, but I'm at a
>>>>>plateau.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>>>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>>>>>could
>>>>>you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me? I'm not
>>>>>looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get where I
>>>>>want
>>>>>to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to my life that
>>>>>will
>>>>>just enhance or maximize my results.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
>>>printing, distribution or publishing costs.
>>>
>>>Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
>>>been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp it!
>>>
>>>Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
>>>
>>>
>
>>Shut up you fucking moron. You don't know the first thing about Diet,
>>training of ANYTHING that relates to this newsgroup, so what exactly is
>>your role besides being a moronic troll??
>>
>
> Well at least you've dropped the "anonymous" tag you rabid fucking
> cretin.
>
> Every post you make is the same old angry little man rubbish, having a
> go at those that you think didn't know you in your so-called glory
> days, when you were a vain, pumped up little pimp.
^^^^^

You meant "pip", right?
And more correct woulda been "ho" or "bitch".
And he was a skinny little fagit, even then. How such scrawny li'l bitch
can make so much noise is beyond me.
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>
> You fucked up your own life Schuh, suck it up and live with it you
> miserable prick!
>
> HTH! ;o)
>

Hey, Shuh, I see you shaved yer head!
Now you don't have go nuts when cum gets on yer head.

Oh, and wash those dentures, bruh--trapped semen gives *wicked* penis
breath, and you have few enough friends as it is.
Oh, but I do appreciate when you remove sed dentures for me. Really a good
'job, very fine polish!

Lemme know when you'll be back in Yonkers. I got a cupla friends that would
like your services.
Group rate, mebbe?
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------
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Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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all d'numbuhs

"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuhpolycock.com> wrote in message
news:a9d6h.162$Nw5.154@newsfe16.phx...
> Charles wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:06:43 GMT, Joe Humble <joehumble@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:51:20 -0800, "determined"
>>><determined@comcast.nest> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lyle is a pretty prolific writer, and I'm interested in reading one of
>>>>his books. I'm not sure which one to start with though, he seems to
>>>>have several that touch on my goals of overall fat loss and muscle
>>>>retention. As a female who has been pretty diligent with diet and
>>>>exercise for 6 months, I seem to have hit a wall. The weight and fat
>>>>came off pretty consistantly, and then it just tapered off to a snail's
>>>>pace. I still exercise 4 days a week, and my calories are still below
>>>>maintenance, but I'm at a plateau.
>>>>
>>>>I've been looking at the books he has available, like the Rapid Fatloss
>>>>Handbook, and Ultimate Diet. If anyone has read one or both of these,
>>>>could you shed some light on which one may be most applicable to me?
>>>>I'm not looking for a quick fix, I don't care if it takes a year to get
>>>>where I want to be. I'm looking for a program or method I can apply to
>>>>my life that will just enhance or maximize my results.
>>>>
>>>What are lyle's credentials and why should I trust anything he says?
>>>
>>
>>And pay £21 ($39) for the privilege of receiving an Ebook, with no
>>printing, distribution or publishing costs.
>>Sounds something of a rip-off to me, particularly as the system has
>>been around since 1972 and all he's done is plagiarise and revamp it!
>>
>>Ugh! It's Monday! ;o(
>>
> Shut up you fucking moron. You don't know the first thing about Diet,
> training of ANYTHING that relates to this newsgroup, so what exactly is
> your role besides being a moronic troll??
>
> --
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>