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Old 08-01-2008, 03:19 PM
lordy
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I have a weird injury which is not healing. ie it feels like something
that needs a deep painful massage to break it up so my body can flush it
out. (I know I'm making a lot of un qualified assumptions here - but
what the heck).
I've had similar feeling injuries on occasion that seemed to stay for weeks
until I self massaged them out using a lot of pressure and pain
(A little knowledge is a dangerous thing eh

OK the problem this time is I cant seem to get to this injury because it
seems to be deep under my hip flexors,

I *will* go to see a sports physio just wanted your collective wisdom in
the meantime.

This is how I can invoke the pain precisely.

I sit down in a fairly high chair. I rotate my left leg, so the knee
stays in roughly the same position, but my heel swings over to my right
leg. As soon as I start this motion I can feel pain on the outside of my
upper thigh/hip and to the left of my left hip-flexor.
Due to combination of fat and muscle (not in my desired proportions),
I cannot really massage this area in any meaningful way.

The pain also kicks on occasion if I suddenly decide to bound
energetically up a step leading with the left leg when not warmed up.
Or today, when doing shuttle runs, when I attempt to touch the floor at
each end. (so I stopped crouching and stayed vertical).

It does seem to go way when warmed up, and I have no problems running up
the stairs normally. Its just when I'm cold and I move suddenly, it
reminds me it's there.

Besides obviously going to see a physio, anyone experienced anything
like this.

Lordy
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Old 08-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Omelet
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In article <slrng9660a.e66.spam@hercules.lordy.org.uk>,
lordy <spam@lordy.org.ukinvalid> wrote:

> I have a weird injury which is not healing. ie it feels like something
> that needs a deep painful massage to break it up so my body can flush it
> out. (I know I'm making a lot of un qualified assumptions here - but
> what the heck).
> I've had similar feeling injuries on occasion that seemed to stay for weeks
> until I self massaged them out using a lot of pressure and pain
> (A little knowledge is a dangerous thing eh
>
> OK the problem this time is I cant seem to get to this injury because it
> seems to be deep under my hip flexors,
>
> I *will* go to see a sports physio just wanted your collective wisdom in
> the meantime.
>
> This is how I can invoke the pain precisely.
>
> I sit down in a fairly high chair. I rotate my left leg, so the knee
> stays in roughly the same position, but my heel swings over to my right
> leg. As soon as I start this motion I can feel pain on the outside of my
> upper thigh/hip and to the left of my left hip-flexor.
> Due to combination of fat and muscle (not in my desired proportions),
> I cannot really massage this area in any meaningful way.
>
> The pain also kicks on occasion if I suddenly decide to bound
> energetically up a step leading with the left leg when not warmed up.
> Or today, when doing shuttle runs, when I attempt to touch the floor at
> each end. (so I stopped crouching and stayed vertical).
>
> It does seem to go way when warmed up, and I have no problems running up
> the stairs normally. Its just when I'm cold and I move suddenly, it
> reminds me it's there.
>
> Besides obviously going to see a physio, anyone experienced anything
> like this.
>
> Lordy


Try googling for "tendonosis"?
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:34 AM
Steve Freides
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"lordy" <spam@lordy.org.ukinvalid> wrote in message
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>I have a weird injury which is not healing. ie it feels like something
> that needs a deep painful massage to break it up so my body can flush
> it
> out. (I know I'm making a lot of un qualified assumptions here - but
> what the heck).
> I've had similar feeling injuries on occasion that seemed to stay for
> weeks
> until I self massaged them out using a lot of pressure and pain
> (A little knowledge is a dangerous thing eh
>
> OK the problem this time is I cant seem to get to this injury because
> it
> seems to be deep under my hip flexors,
>
> I *will* go to see a sports physio just wanted your collective wisdom
> in
> the meantime.
>
> This is how I can invoke the pain precisely.
>
> I sit down in a fairly high chair. I rotate my left leg, so the knee
> stays in roughly the same position, but my heel swings over to my
> right
> leg. As soon as I start this motion I can feel pain on the outside of
> my
> upper thigh/hip and to the left of my left hip-flexor.
> Due to combination of fat and muscle (not in my desired proportions),
> I cannot really massage this area in any meaningful way.
>
> The pain also kicks on occasion if I suddenly decide to bound
> energetically up a step leading with the left leg when not warmed up.
> Or today, when doing shuttle runs, when I attempt to touch the floor
> at
> each end. (so I stopped crouching and stayed vertical).
>
> It does seem to go way when warmed up, and I have no problems running
> up
> the stairs normally. Its just when I'm cold and I move suddenly, it
> reminds me it's there.
>
> Besides obviously going to see a physio, anyone experienced anything
> like this.
>
> Lordy


How is your flexibility, specifically groin, hip flexors, hamstrings,
and related?

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Old 08-02-2008, 12:34 AM
lordy
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On 2008-08-01, Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>
> How is your flexibility, specifically groin, hip flexors, hamstrings,
> and related?


My flexibility is very crap in those areas. Even when I was young and
slim, and playing lots of basketball.
I could not sit on my haunches for example. and cannot pull my heel to
my bum.
>
>

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Old 08-02-2008, 01:35 AM
Andrzej Rosa
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lordy wrote:

> On 2008-08-01, Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>>
>> How is your flexibility, specifically groin, hip flexors, hamstrings,
>> and related?

>
> My flexibility is very crap in those areas.


It probably doesn't matter one bit. I mean it like "most probably".

> Even when I was young and
> slim, and playing lots of basketball.
> I could not sit on my haunches for example. and cannot pull my heel to
> my bum.


That probably matters even less (just to show what I mean by probably).

1. Don't do what hurts.
2. Don't do what stops hurting when you are warmed up. I mean it. If you
will, I'll come to you and kick you in the balls!
3. Do something, which doesn't hurt.
4. Do something dynamic, which doesn't hurt. Like jumping rope maybe? I
don't know, it's your body. Find an activity which you enjoy, which
doesn't hurt and which involves your injured part, and is dynamic in its
nature. Tendons like it, once they are healed a bit.

Beside that I don't think you can do much, baring some voodoo or surgery.
Though a voodoo will always be tempting...

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Old 08-02-2008, 01:35 AM
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"lordy" <spam@lordy.org.ukinvalid> wrote in message
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> On 2008-08-01, Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>>
>> How is your flexibility, specifically groin, hip flexors, hamstrings,
>> and related?

>
> My flexibility is very crap in those areas. Even when I was young and
> slim, and playing lots of basketball.
> I could not sit on my haunches for example. and cannot pull my heel to
> my bum.


Andrzej's response (which sounds colored by several beers at this hour
where he is on a Friday night) and voodoo notwithstanding, how about
trying some stretching or otherwise working on your flexibility as part
of the plan to relieve the symptoms you're describing. It certainly
couldn't hurt, provided you do it intelligently, of course.

So, Andrzej, what are you drinking?

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Old 08-02-2008, 02:10 AM
Andrzej Rosa
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Steve Freides wrote:

> "lordy" <spam@lordy.org.ukinvalid> wrote in message
> news:slrng97518.opg.spam@hercules.lordy.org.uk...
>> On 2008-08-01, Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How is your flexibility, specifically groin, hip flexors, hamstrings,
>>> and related?

>>
>> My flexibility is very crap in those areas. Even when I was young and
>> slim, and playing lots of basketball.
>> I could not sit on my haunches for example. and cannot pull my heel to
>> my bum.

>
> Andrzej's response (which sounds colored by several beers at this hour
> where he is on a Friday night) and voodoo notwithstanding, how about
> trying some stretching or otherwise working on your flexibility as part
> of the plan to relieve the symptoms you're describing. It certainly
> couldn't hurt, provided you do it intelligently, of course.


It shouldn't hurt, here I agree. It probably won't help much either.

> So, Andrzej, what are you drinking?


Beer, you got it right. Not much, so I've time for posting, because
tomorrow we have a life again!

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