Need a plan for my wife

Hi everyone. My wife decided to start going to the gym with me three
times a week. Her goal is to lose maybe 40lbs. She's a goofy shape
in that she carries all her weight above the waste rather than the
typical woman hips and thighs. She's 33.

(let me say here that my wife is a money-nazi. the fact that she was
willing to shell out the money for the gym membership says to me that
she's committed to it.)

Last saturday was the first day she went with me. She's never lifted
before so I must have told her a dozen times to take it easy, since
she's in an all-fired hurry to lose weight. My main concern was to
avoid over-working her legs so that she wouldn't have problems going
up and down stairs for example. On sunday, she went to the free
(worthless) personal trainer that's included with the membership. The
personal trainer girl focused on her legs et al. assuming that this
was what my wife wanted. End result: stairs have been hell yesterday
and today. I've been telling my wife over and over that this is
temporary and she needs to tolerate it, then take it easy for the
first month.

So tonight we're going to the gym again. I'm going to tell my wife to
ignore her legs tonight to give them a chance to recover. So we'll be
focusing on upper body and arms, still taking it easy since it's the
first month or so. So what should I have her do? I'm trying to gain
muscle mass and it's time for a change-up again so I'm going to be
adding weight and reduce the reps. But I'm unsure whether to have her
to this sort of thing.

Should her goal be to gain muscle mass and lose weight through the
increased muscle mass burning more calories all the time?

Or should her goal be a more cardio-based workout with lower weights
and more reps?

She's very intimidated by the experience and won't leave my side when
we're there. We both think this will pass in a month or two though.
But because of this, she's very against free weights which I've been
focusing on. I think we'll probably end up doing very different
routines (I can't see her doing free weight squats) but for now, I
need to sort of use the same machines she is.

They have these freemotion machines that are cable-operated stacks of
weights. These seem to me to be better than normal machines. They
also have machines designed to take free weight plates, but limit
motion the way a normal machine does. Would those be better to
start?

In the past, she's had an extremely difficult time losing weight. Her
metabolism is very efficient, and she's definitly not a couch-potato.
It's almost like below 1200 calories per day and she goes into
starvation mode, but more than 1400 and she gains weight. But that
was with no exercise program. We're hoping the exercise and extra
muscle mass will fix this situation. She's actually lost 50lbs
already through low-carb, but it's much harder to lose more now. And
she's already fixed most of the problem areas in her diet.

What does everyone suggest?

brian

brianlanning wrote:

> Hi everyone. My wife decided to start going to the gym with me three
> times a week. Her goal is to lose maybe 40lbs. She's a goofy shape
> in that she carries all her weight above the waste

Waist.

Note to Ari: I already mentioned then instead of than. Waste instead
of waist. Forgot that one.

> rather than the typical woman hips and thighs. She's 33.

Apple.

See also:

http://www.epigee.org/fitness/body_shape.html

> (let me say here that my wife is a money-nazi. the fact that she was
> willing to shell out the money for the gym membership says to me that
> she's committed to it.)

And it says to ME that she's keeping an eye on you, wondering,
perhaps, about the possibility of gym hotties checking you out... or,
yeah, vice versa. But, hey, I'M the jealous and suspicious type while
you're happily married to a loving, caring, understanding, trusting
wife. Never mind her, did you say 'goofy' shape? Ouch.

> Last saturday was the first day she went with me. She's never lifted
> before so I must have told her a dozen times to take it easy, since
> she's in an all-fired hurry to lose weight. My main concern was to
> avoid over-working her legs so that she wouldn't have problems going
> up and down stairs for example. On sunday, she went to the free
> (worthless) personal trainer that's included with the membership. The
> personal trainer girl focused on her legs et al. assuming that this
> was what my wife wanted. End result: stairs have been hell yesterday
> and today. I've been telling my wife over and over that this is
> temporary and she needs to tolerate it, then take it easy for the
> first month.
>
> So tonight we're going to the gym again. I'm going to tell my wife to
> ignore her legs tonight to give them a chance to recover. So we'll be
> focusing on upper body and arms, still taking it easy since it's the
> first month or so. So what should I have her do? I'm trying to gain
> muscle mass and it's time for a change-up again so I'm going to be
> adding weight and reduce the reps. But I'm unsure whether to have her
> to this sort of thing.
>
> Should her goal be to gain muscle mass and lose weight through the
> increased muscle mass burning more calories all the time?

Put her on the treadmill and forget about her.

> Or should her goal be a more cardio-based workout with lower weights
> and more reps?

Geez, just put her on the treadmill and get to lifting, man!

> She's very intimidated by the experience and won't leave my side when
> we're there.

Awww, that's sweet. Or jealous.

(looks around for gym hotties)

> We both think this will pass in a month or two though.

Or when she notices the gym hunks. Whichever comes first.

> But because of this, she's very against free weights which I've been
> focusing on. I think we'll probably end up doing very different
> routines (I can't see her doing free weight squats) but for now, I
> need to sort of use the same machines she is.

If your gym is like my gym then there's an assortment of machines
available. Have her do a circuit, hitting all her bodyparts, give or
take. Pyramid for four or five sets on the machines she enjoys - 15,
12, 12, 10, 8 reps - and just two sets for the schtufff she doesn't
favor.

And, hey, guuuesssss what i SAW tonight!

http://www.absdietforwomen.com/uof/absdietforwomen/

Bah! NO orange cover, but it's still worth a look.

> They have these freemotion machines that are cable-operated stacks of
> weights. These seem to me to be better than normal machines. They
> also have machines designed to take free weight plates, but limit
> motion the way a normal machine does. Would those be better to
> start?

I'm not antimachine, so encourage her to get on the progressive
resistance band wagon regardless of its physical makeup.

> In the past, she's had an extremely difficult time losing weight. Her
> metabolism is very efficient, and she's definitly not a couch-potato.
> It's almost like below 1200 calories per day and she goes into
> starvation mode, but more than 1400 and she gains weight. But that
> was with no exercise program. We're hoping the exercise and extra
> muscle mass will fix this situation. She's actually lost 50lbs
> already through low-carb, but it's much harder to lose more now. And
> she's already fixed most of the problem areas in her diet.
>
> What does everyone suggest?

All kidding aside (there WERE some attempts at humor up there,
honestly), I think you're a hell of a lucky man to have his wife
working out with him. I suggest you kill the personal trainer that
tried to kill her with DOMS and then encourage your wife to keep on
hitting the gym. A circuit routine is what I'd recommend, but a
sloooow circuit - not so much racing the clock, but simply moving
around the gym hitting all the bodyparts with the various machines
available to her. And then 20, 30, 40 minutes or more on the Life
Fitness treadmill or a similar aerobic machine she favors.

And check out the diet recommendations in the book I mentioned. Oh,
BUY the book!

http://www.amazon.com/Abs-Diet-Women.../dp/1594866244
aka http://tinyurl.com/33jcy4

Note, however, the comments section:

"It's a good diet, but I feel as if they are just producing more and
more books with all the same old information in it .. which seems just
like a waste to me and a money-making strategy on their end. This book
may be good, if you don't have any of the others-otherwise a waste of
money."

With that in mind, and agreeing that the diet is a good one, I'd just
as soon recommend you purchase the original orange cover for ten bucks
and change at Walmart versus whatever Amazon is charging for the
'female' version which, apparently, is simply the guy schtufff
repackaged for the ladies.

> brian

Best of success to you and your wife.

--
Curt

Do what all the old geezers do. Get your wife a young personal trainer, and
tell him that your wife is a big whore who loves to screw hot guys.

Then forget about her and concentrate on your workouts.

brianlanning <brianlanning@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi everyone. My wife decided to start going to the gym with me
> three times a week. Her goal is to lose maybe 40lbs. She's a goofy
> shape in that she carries all her weight above the waste rather than
> the typical woman hips and thighs. She's 33.

Sounds like fun. With a little bit of luck you'll be able to add
exercising to the fun stuff that you do together.

> (let me say here that my wife is a money-nazi. the fact that she
> was willing to shell out the money for the gym membership says to me
> that she's committed to it.)

Commitment always helps. The fact that she has already lost 50
lbs. is impressive. That sort of thing doesn't just happen.

> Last saturday was the first day she went with me. She's never
> lifted before so I must have told her a dozen times to take it easy,
> since she's in an all-fired hurry to lose weight. My main concern
> was to avoid over-working her legs so that she wouldn't have
> problems going up and down stairs for example. On sunday, she went
> to the free (worthless) personal trainer that's included with the
> membership. The personal trainer girl focused on her legs et
> al. assuming that this was what my wife wanted. End result: stairs
> have been hell yesterday and today. I've been telling my wife over
> and over that this is temporary and she needs to tolerate it, then
> take it easy for the first month.

I sometimes wonder why it is that personal trainers all feel like they
have to destroy newbies. I realize that gyms tend to make most of
their money from people that purchase long term contracts and then
never show up, so it is in the gym's best interest to break the spirit
of new clients. However, don't personal trainers only get paid for
sessions where the client actually shows up?

I have gotten a few people hooked on weights, and invariably the trick
has been to get them started on something that is effective without
being too ridiculously brutal. There is time for Tabata Front Squats
when the person is addicted to the iron.

> So tonight we're going to the gym again. I'm going to tell my wife
> to ignore her legs tonight to give them a chance to recover. So
> we'll be focusing on upper body and arms, still taking it easy since
> it's the first month or so. So what should I have her do? I'm
> trying to gain muscle mass and it's time for a change-up again so
> I'm going to be adding weight and reduce the reps. But I'm unsure
> whether to have her to this sort of thing.
>
> Should her goal be to gain muscle mass and lose weight through the
> increased muscle mass burning more calories all the time?

Realistically her goal for the first month or two should be to create
an exercise habit. It would also be nice if she showed some progress.
I would recommend 1-2 sets of 10 reps of 5-7 major exercises. There
are much better workouts long term, but the research shows that for
newbies this works as well as most anything else and it won't kill
your wife. A month from now she'll see some changes in her physique
and it won't seem like she had to sweat blood to make those changes.

There are probably ways to make more dramatic changes in a month, but
they won't be that much more dramatic, and the more effective methods
invariably involve techniques that make people dread going to the gym.

> Or should her goal be a more cardio-based workout with lower weights
> and more reps?

Have her experiment and see which one she likes better. To a certain
extent she'll make gains no matter what you do as long as some weights
are involved.

> She's very intimidated by the experience and won't leave my side when
> we're there. We both think this will pass in a month or two though.
> But because of this, she's very against free weights which I've been
> focusing on. I think we'll probably end up doing very different
> routines (I can't see her doing free weight squats) but for now, I
> need to sort of use the same machines she is.

Quite frankly that's unfortunate for you . I would stick with your
wife for the time being, and I wouldn't pressure her too much about
free weights if they make her uncomfortable.

> They have these freemotion machines that are cable-operated stacks of
> weights. These seem to me to be better than normal machines. They
> also have machines designed to take free weight plates, but limit
> motion the way a normal machine does. Would those be better to
> start?

I have no idea .

> In the past, she's had an extremely difficult time losing weight.
> Her metabolism is very efficient, and she's definitly not a
> couch-potato. It's almost like below 1200 calories per day and she
> goes into starvation mode, but more than 1400 and she gains weight.
> But that was with no exercise program. We're hoping the exercise
> and extra muscle mass will fix this situation. She's actually lost
> 50lbs already through low-carb, but it's much harder to lose more
> now. And she's already fixed most of the problem areas in her diet.

The idea of revving up the metabolism by adding muscle comes up quite
a bit, and the consensus is that the difference from added muscle
isn't that much for most people. However, if your wife really
maintains her current weight with such a small calorie intake then an
extra 150 or so calories burned a day actually is likely to make a big
difference. In her case that's more than a 10% difference in
metabolism.

Clearly exercise of some sort is the next step, and I believe that
weights do more to change the physique than any type of cardio I can
think of.

If it were my wife I would most concentrate on making her believe that
exercise can be enjoyable.

Good luck,
Jason

"brianlanning" <brianlanning@gmail.com> schreef:

> (let me say here that my wife is a money-nazi.

Sounds pretty much like the avarage wife to me.

Unless of course, its about shoes or a new purse to go WITH the shoes.

Nevermind.

> So tonight we're going to the gym again. I'm going to tell my wife to
> ignore her legs tonight to give them a chance to recover. So we'll be
> focusing on upper body and arms, still taking it easy since it's the
> first month or so. So what should I have her do?

Back.

Lotsa rows and pull-down kinda movements.

> Should her goal be to gain muscle mass and lose weight through the
> increased muscle mass burning more calories all the time?

> Or should her goal be a more cardio-based workout with lower weights
> and more reps?

What does she want, or better, what do YOU want?

--
Pete

"Jason Earl" <jearl@xmission.com> wrote in message
news:87vedahuxp.fsf@workhorse.earlhome...
> brianlanning <brianlanning@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi everyone. My wife decided to start going to the gym with me
>> three times a week. Her goal is to lose maybe 40lbs. She's a goofy
>> shape in that she carries all her weight above the waste rather than
>> the typical woman hips and thighs. She's 33.
>
> Sounds like fun. With a little bit of luck you'll be able to add
> exercising to the fun stuff that you do together.

-snip-

> If it were my wife I would most concentrate on making her believe that
> exercise can be enjoyable.
>
> Good luck,
> Jason

Great post, Jason, and right thinking, IMHO, too - you've got to
actually do the program in order for it to work, and if you don't like
it and/or it gets you hurt or too sore, you won't do it.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:19:26 +0200, "Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl>
wrote:

>"brianlanning" <brianlanning@gmail.com> schreef:
>
>> (let me say here that my wife is a money-nazi.
>
>Sounds pretty much like the avarage wife to me.

I read this and had a thought that Dutch women must be a lot different
than American women ...

>
>Unless of course, its about shoes or a new purse to go WITH the shoes.

.... then I read the above bit and realized women are the same
everywhere.


>
>Nevermind.
>
>> So tonight we're going to the gym again. I'm going to tell my wife to
>> ignore her legs tonight to give them a chance to recover. So we'll be
>> focusing on upper body and arms, still taking it easy since it's the
>> first month or so. So what should I have her do?
>
>Back.
>
>Lotsa rows and pull-down kinda movements.
>
>> Should her goal be to gain muscle mass and lose weight through the
>> increased muscle mass burning more calories all the time?
>
>> Or should her goal be a more cardio-based workout with lower weights
>> and more reps?
>
>What does she want, or better, what do YOU want?

On Jun 26, 11:40 pm, Jason Earl <j...@xmission.com> wrote:
> Sounds like fun. With a little bit of luck you'll be able to add
> exercising to the fun stuff that you do together.

Before, it was as separate thing.

> Commitment always helps. The fact that she has already lost 50
> lbs. is impressive. That sort of thing doesn't just happen.

I was surprised. It took her about six months to lose 40lbs on low
carb. Then she rearreanged what she was eating, started taking weird
suppliments, and ran on a treadmill in the basement. That was good
for another 10lbs.

> I sometimes wonder why it is that personal trainers all feel like they
> have to destroy newbies. I realize that gyms tend to make most of
> their money from people that purchase long term contracts and then
> never show up, so it is in the gym's best interest to break the spirit
> of new clients. However, don't personal trainers only get paid for
> sessions where the client actually shows up?

I think it was just cluelessness. My wife is apple-shaped, the
trainer was a pear (not overweight, but slightly wide in the beam).
So she assumed that everyone wanted to work on their thighs and butt.
And my wife's inexperience meant that she didn't know when she was
overdoing it.

> I have gotten a few people hooked on weights, and invariably the trick
> has been to get them started on something that is effective without
> being too ridiculously brutal. There is time for Tabata Front Squats
> when the person is addicted to the iron.

I suspect she'll get addicted to the results fairly quickly.

> Realistically her goal for the first month or two should be to create
> an exercise habit.

yeah. she screwed up my routine. so I didn't get much of a workout
last night. I think we'll fall into a new routine fairly quickly
though.

> It would also be nice if she showed some progress.
> I would recommend 1-2 sets of 10 reps of 5-7 major exercises.

Last night we did three sets of 20 with relatively light weights on
about that many exercises. She got a little burn in the pecs and
doesn't hurt too much today. Her lats were underworked though.

>There
> are much better workouts long term, but the research shows that for
> newbies this works as well as most anything else and it won't kill
> your wife. A month from now she'll see some changes in her physique
> and it won't seem like she had to sweat blood to make those changes.

She wasn't sweating too much last night. I think she'll be happy with
the results.

> There are probably ways to make more dramatic changes in a month, but
> they won't be that much more dramatic, and the more effective methods
> invariably involve techniques that make people dread going to the gym.

yeah, the main thing now is to get her in the habit and addicted to
the results.


> Have her experiment and see which one she likes better. To a certain
> extent she'll make gains no matter what you do as long as some weights
> are involved.

She was making progress with just a treadmill in the basement, but
it's not nearly as nice as the ones at the gym. things weren't
happening fast enough for her though. I think the results she's
likely to get with weight training mixed with the treadmill will
really keep her coming back.

> Quite frankly that's unfortunate for you . I would stick with your
> wife for the time being, and I wouldn't pressure her too much about
> free weights if they make her uncomfortable.

she's having a negative affect on my routine, but I'm sure it's
temporary.

> If it were my wife I would most concentrate on making her believe that
> exercise can be enjoyable.
> Good luck,

Thanks. She seems to still have a good attitude in spite of the hurt
legs. So far it looks like it will continue.

brian

On Jun 27, 2:19 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> "brianlanning" <brianlann...@gmail.com> schreef:
>
> > (let me say here that my wife is a money-nazi.
>
> Sounds pretty much like the avarage wife to me.
>
> Unless of course, its about shoes or a new purse to go WITH the shoes.
>
> Nevermind.

lol Luckily, she's brutally practical. I have to actually give her
a hard time to make her go out and buy clothes for herself. This is
good and bad. She never runs up the cards buying clothes for
herself. But sometimes she dresses like it. I had to basically
demand that she go out and replace all her clothes. She complained.
But she seems to like it now.

> Back.
>
> Lotsa rows and pull-down kinda movements.

I had her do both last night. Her pecs hurt a little today, just the
right amount of hurt I think. But her lats don't hurt at all. I'll
probably crank up the weight on rows next time.

> What does she want, or better, what do YOU want?

Weight loss.

brian

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Jason Earl wrote:

> brianlanning <brianlanning@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> My wife decided to start going to the gym with me three times a week.
>> Her goal is to lose maybe 40lbs. [...] So what should I have her do?
>
> I would stick with your wife for the time being

Agreed. Maybe for a couple of months - but ultimately, if you want your
wife to be slim, just getting a new one may be the answer.

NEXT!

tom

--
Science is bound, by the everlasting vow of honour, to face fearlessly
every problem which can be fairly presented to it. -- Lord Kelvin

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Curt wrote:

> I'm not antimachine,

Dude. Terminator. The Matrix. I, Robot. HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING?

tom

--
Science is bound, by the everlasting vow of honour, to face fearlessly
every problem which can be fairly presented to it. -- Lord Kelvin

brianlanning <brianlanning@gmail.com> writes:

> On Jun 26, 11:40 pm, Jason Earl <j...@xmission.com> wrote:
>> Sounds like fun. With a little bit of luck you'll be able to add
>> exercising to the fun stuff that you do together.
>
> Before, it was as separate thing.
>
>> Commitment always helps. The fact that she has already lost 50
>> lbs. is impressive. That sort of thing doesn't just happen.
>
> I was surprised. It took her about six months to lose 40lbs on low
> carb. Then she rearreanged what she was eating, started taking
> weird suppliments, and ran on a treadmill in the basement. That was
> good for another 10lbs.

It sounds like she has already gotten used to the idea that fitness
requires some experimentation. That's good. Lots of people like the
idea that they are "hacking" their body.

>> I sometimes wonder why it is that personal trainers all feel like
>> they have to destroy newbies. I realize that gyms tend to make
>> most of their money from people that purchase long term contracts
>> and then never show up, so it is in the gym's best interest to
>> break the spirit of new clients. However, don't personal trainers
>> only get paid for sessions where the client actually shows up?
>
> I think it was just cluelessness. My wife is apple-shaped, the
> trainer was a pear (not overweight, but slightly wide in the beam).
> So she assumed that everyone wanted to work on their thighs and
> butt. And my wife's inexperience meant that she didn't know when
> she was overdoing it.

Perhaps I am just generalizing from my own experience with personal
trainers. Don't get me wrong. Some of them are savvy enough, but I
have seen enough of my friends and relatives get run through the
guantlet that I am convinced that at least in some cases the "free"
personal training session really is a deliberate attempt to discourage
people.

>> I have gotten a few people hooked on weights, and invariably the
>> trick has been to get them started on something that is effective
>> without being too ridiculously brutal. There is time for Tabata
>> Front Squats when the person is addicted to the iron.
>
> I suspect she'll get addicted to the results fairly quickly.
>
>> Realistically her goal for the first month or two should be to
>> create an exercise habit.
>
> yeah. she screwed up my routine. so I didn't get much of a workout
> last night. I think we'll fall into a new routine fairly quickly
> though.

Every once in a while mixing in a pile of odd lifts is fun. Sometimes
you even learn something.

>> It would also be nice if she showed some progress. I would
>> recommend 1-2 sets of 10 reps of 5-7 major exercises.
>
> Last night we did three sets of 20 with relatively light weights on
> about that many exercises. She got a little burn in the pecs and
> doesn't hurt too much today. Her lats were underworked though.

I like to go heavier with beginners, but women do tend to get nervous
with the idea of "heavier." It's not likely to be a big deal though.

>>There are much better workouts long term, but the research shows
>>that for newbies this works as well as most anything else and it
>>won't kill your wife. A month from now she'll see some changes in
>>her physique and it won't seem like she had to sweat blood to make
>>those changes.
>
> She wasn't sweating too much last night. I think she'll be happy
> with the results.

Perfect

>> There are probably ways to make more dramatic changes in a month,
>> but they won't be that much more dramatic, and the more effective
>> methods invariably involve techniques that make people dread going
>> to the gym.
>
> yeah, the main thing now is to get her in the habit and addicted to
> the results.

It sounds like things are actually going well. It would appear that
your wife has already had enough success with her lifestyle changes
that she is looking for ways to accelerate change on her own. That's
a sure fire recipe for success.

Mix in support from people that want her to succeed and are willing to
work out with her and good things are bound to happen.

>> Have her experiment and see which one she likes better. To a
>> certain extent she'll make gains no matter what you do as long as
>> some weights are involved.
>
> She was making progress with just a treadmill in the basement, but
> it's not nearly as nice as the ones at the gym. things weren't
> happening fast enough for her though. I think the results she's
> likely to get with weight training mixed with the treadmill will
> really keep her coming back.

Weights really do make a big difference.

>> Quite frankly that's unfortunate for you . I would stick with
>> your wife for the time being, and I wouldn't pressure her too much
>> about free weights if they make her uncomfortable.
>
> she's having a negative affect on my routine, but I'm sure it's
> temporary.

Who knows, it might even help to switch things around a bit for a
while.

>> If it were my wife I would most concentrate on making her believe
>> that exercise can be enjoyable. Good luck,
>
> Thanks. She seems to still have a good attitude in spite of the
> hurt legs. So far it looks like it will continue.

That's exciting. Keep after her.

Jason

Tom Anderson wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > I'm not antimachine,
>
> Dude. Terminator. The Matrix. I, Robot. HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING?

Ha! D Good point.

Alternatively, there's the robot from Lost in Space, Data from Next
Gen, Rosie from The Jetsons, and C3PO and R2D2!

(Say, does Lindsay Wagner's Bionic Woman count? Hubba hubba.)

Also, Number Six and Boomer from the updated Battlestar Galactica.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...FW/hot/six.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...MFW/hot/gp.jpg

You know what? i don't ~*CARE*~ if they want to kill me!

--
Curt

"brianlanning" <brianlanning@gmail.com> schreef:

>> Unless of course, its about shoes or a new purse to go WITH the shoes.

>> Nevermind.

> lol Luckily, she's brutally practical.

A practical woman? You lucky SOB...

> I have to actually give her
> a hard time to make her go out and buy clothes for herself. This is

Weird.

I just cannot figure out that spending a few thousands each years on clothes
is worth if you hardly wear it.
Some clothes and shoes are actually brand new. That doesnt make any sense.

But... as D Wells said, women are alike around the globe.

> good and bad. She never runs up the cards buying clothes for
> herself. But sometimes she dresses like it. I had to basically
> demand that she go out and replace all her clothes. She complained.
> But she seems to like it now.

Like i said, thats kinda weird.

>> What does she want, or better, what do YOU want?

> Weight loss.

For her, i assume?

Dont let her spend too much time with the weights. Let her work back and
legs intense, and convince to go on a low carb diet with perhaps some
thermogenics.

--
Pete

"Pete" <> A practical woman? You lucky SOB...
>

She likes to suck cork and take it up the bungole, just not from her
husband.

On Jun 28, 3:36 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> "brianlanning" <brianlann...@gmail.com> schreef:
> A practical woman? You lucky SOB...
>
> > I have to actually give her
> > a hard time to make her go out and buy clothes for herself. This is
>
> Weird.

Yeah, she's certainly not normal. I'm not sure how she got wired this
way because her mother is a typical high-maintenance, gucci carrying,
makeup-worshiping woman. You should see what happens when we try to
buy a car. It's hilarious. To my wife, a car isn't an emotional
extension of her personality or some kind of fashion statement (like
most women). To her, it's a toaster. It's an appliance that allows
her to move around. And as such, the color is irrelevant. So when we
walk into a dealership together, the salesmen instantly has her what
color she wants. Her response is usually to ask if there's a discount
for certain colors.


> >> What does she want, or better, what do YOU want?
> > Weight loss.
>
> For her, i assume?

yes. I've already lost 60lbs and now it's time to add muscle.

> Dont let her spend too much time with the weights. Let her work back and
> legs intense, and convince to go on a low carb diet with perhaps some
> thermogenics.

She's already doing low(er) carb. What she's eating seems to be
working for her. Like I said before, she lost 50lbs doing low carb.
And she was able to lose another 10lbs with what she was eating and
just treatmill work.

Back and legs are definitly part of the plan. She needs some arm
toning though and a significant belly reduction since that's where she
carries most of her weight.

We don't know a lot about thermogenics, but I've heard some good
things so we should probably look into that next.

brian