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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
Robert Schuh
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Default Organic milk vs regular

Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1% milk
and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that I
have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it tastes
like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
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"Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1%
> milk
> and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that I
> have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it
> tastes
> like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.


Agreed. We learned this lesson from our kids and their friends - all
our kids' friends who liked to drink milk had parents who bought them
organic milk, so we switched and the kids now drink the stuff much more
than they used to.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>
>



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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
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Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
>> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1%
>> milk and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk
>> that I have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk
>> now, it tastes like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try
>> it.

>
> Agreed. We learned this lesson from our kids and their friends - all
> our kids' friends who liked to drink milk had parents who bought them
> organic milk, so we switched and the kids now drink the stuff much more
> than they used to.


I thought there is something wrong with you Steve. Now I know - you're
not lactose intolerant. See - you simply can't have the hair and the
phiz like mine and also drink milk, without swallowing lactase pills
along with that. Sorry.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
Lester Long
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"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
news:4pfb64Fima88U1@individual.net...
> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4531D8B4.B3F85605@hameggsyahoo.com...
>> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
>> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1% milk
>> and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that I
>> have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it tastes
>> like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.

>
> Agreed. We learned this lesson from our kids and their friends - all our
> kids' friends who liked to drink milk had parents who bought them organic
> milk, so we switched and the kids now drink the stuff much more than they
> used to.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com


Is the price much different?



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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
Curt James
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Lester Long wrote:
[...]

> Is the price much different?


According to the New York Times, it is indeed expensive.

This article is from nearly a year ago, but offers some applicable
info:

An Organic Cash Cow

By Kim Severson

<snip> a carton of organic milk does not come without complications. It
is expensive. Some brands are processed so that an unopened carton can
last for months. And an organic seal does not necessarily mean the cows
are grazing on pasture or that the milk is local.

[...]

Milk is considered a gateway to organic food. Along with produce it is
one of the first organic products a consumer will buy, according to the
Hartman Group, a research firm in Bellevue, Wash.

The ethos of organic milk - one that its cartons reinforce - conjures
lush pastures dotted with grazing animals, their milk production driven
by nothing more than nature's hand and a helpful family farmer.

But choosing organic milk doesn't guarantee much beyond this: It comes
from a cow whose milk production was not prompted by an artificial
growth hormone, whose feed was not grown with pesticides and which had
"access to pasture," a term so vague it could mean that a cow might
spend most of its milk-producing life confined to a feed lot eating
grain and not grass.

Exactly how much time cows should spend grazing before their milk can
carry the government's organic label is under scrutiny. Several hundred
farmers and organic advocates want organic dairy rules tightened so
that cows have more than what they call token access to pasture.

[...]

Milk from the Ronnybrook Farm Dairy in the Hudson Valley, which is sold
in bottles at Manhattan's Greenmarkets, is not certified organic. The
dairy uses no artificial growth hormones, but it treats sick animals
with antibiotics. In the summer the animals eat mostly pasture; in the
winter they eat hay with grain mixed in.

[...]

"We believe in the benefits of grass," Mr. Siemon of Organic Valley
said, not that all of the 534 farmers who sell the cooperative milk can
meet its pasture standards. Weather and other factors can mean cows'
diets must be supplemented with grain.

[...]

Ultrapasteurized milk can taste creamier than traditionally pasteurized
milk, but it can also take on a cooked or burnt flavor. Research is
still being done on how much the process compromises the milk's
nutritional profile. Because the nature of the milk protein is changed
at such high temperatures, ultrapasteurized cream can take longer to
whip and never quite achieves the same light, fluffy texture. With
either method, an opened carton will stay fresh for only about a week.

For the nation's top organic milk producers, ultrapasteurizing has been
a godsend. "The availability of ultrapasteurization has allowed organic
milk to enter markets it might not otherwise," Ms. McLaughlin of
Horizon said.

At Organic Valley, where almost two-thirds of the milk is
ultrapasteurized, its panels of tasters prefer it, Mr. Siemon said.

But for purists, unpasteurized, or raw milk, is the only way to go. It
can be delicious and more nutritious, but finding raw milk takes a lot
of work. In most states it can be sold legally only on the farm or
through clubs in which people buy shares of a cow and divide the milk.
And raw milk can pose a health hazard, especially for people with
weakened immune systems.

[...]

At Pathmark, a half-gallon of regular milk was $1.70. The same size of
Horizon Organic milk was $4.29. Organic milk is so expensive that most
state governments consider it a luxury item and will not pay for it
under low-income food programs like the Special Supplemental Nutrition
Program for Women, Infants and Children.

Ann Lickteig, a mother of four in Burlington, Vt., stopped buying
organic milk when it reached nearly $5 a gallon. Now she goes to a
local store on Mondays, when milk from a local dairy is on sale for
$2.99 a gallon.

"I buy the milk that says no growth hormones, but I don't know that
that's the only thing to worry about," she said. "I don't want my kids
exposed to potentially harmful chemicals, but I haven't done the
research myself."

For some parents, cost does not matter. Nor do the intricacies of the
organic pasture rules. They search for the organic label and buy it, no
matter what.

"I look at what I pay for everything else, but I don't for the milk,"
said Ms. Gersten, the Long Island dentist. "Buying any other milk for
him is just not an option."

The entire article @:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/di...rssnyt&emc=rss
aka http://tinyurl.com/dnh8c

--
Curt

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
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"Lester Long" <long5@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
> news:4pfb64Fima88U1@individual.net...
>> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4531D8B4.B3F85605@hameggsyahoo.com...
>>> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
>>> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1%
>>> milk
>>> and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that
>>> I
>>> have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it
>>> tastes
>>> like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.

>>
>> Agreed. We learned this lesson from our kids and their friends - all
>> our kids' friends who liked to drink milk had parents who bought them
>> organic milk, so we switched and the kids now drink the stuff much
>> more than they used to.
>>
>> -S-
>> http://www.kbnj.com

>
> Is the price much different?


It's different but I don't know how much - I'll try to check if I'm
there in the next few days.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
Steve Freides
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"DZ" <28888@1842528912.2729313757.10281.3371.32671> wrote in message
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> Steve Freides <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
>>> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1%
>>> milk and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk
>>> that I have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk
>>> now, it tastes like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try
>>> it.

>>
>> Agreed. We learned this lesson from our kids and their friends - all
>> our kids' friends who liked to drink milk had parents who bought them
>> organic milk, so we switched and the kids now drink the stuff much
>> more
>> than they used to.

>
> I thought there is something wrong with you Steve. Now I know - you're
> not lactose intolerant. See - you simply can't have the hair and the
> phiz like mine and also drink milk, without swallowing lactase pills
> along with that. Sorry.


What can I do? Part of the reason I did reasonably well as a
vegetarian for many years is that I continued to eat dairy, although I
don't drink milk much these days as I prefer high-fat cheeses and ice
cream.

Phiz - had to look that one up.

Steve "yum" Freides
http://www.kbnj.com


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM
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Jesus, Robert. You must be getting old. I don't think 8 years ago you would
have drunk organic anything unless it had liquified oral test in it. ;-)

"Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4531D8B4.B3F85605@hameggsyahoo.com...
> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1% milk
> and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that I
> have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it tastes
> like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.
>
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>
>



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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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"Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lester Long wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Is the price much different?

>
> According to the New York Times, it is indeed expensive.
>
> This article is from nearly a year ago, but offers some applicable
> info:
>
> An Organic Cash Cow
>
> By Kim Severson
>
> <snip> a carton of organic milk does not come without complications. It
> is expensive. Some brands are processed so that an unopened carton can
> last for months. And an organic seal does not necessarily mean the cows
> are grazing on pasture or that the milk is local.
>
> [...]
>
> Milk is considered a gateway to organic food. Along with produce it is
> one of the first organic products a consumer will buy, according to the
> Hartman Group, a research firm in Bellevue, Wash.
>
> The ethos of organic milk - one that its cartons reinforce - conjures
> lush pastures dotted with grazing animals, their milk production driven
> by nothing more than nature's hand and a helpful family farmer.
>
> But choosing organic milk doesn't guarantee much beyond this: It comes
> from a cow whose milk production was not prompted by an artificial
> growth hormone, whose feed was not grown with pesticides and which had
> "access to pasture," a term so vague it could mean that a cow might
> spend most of its milk-producing life confined to a feed lot eating
> grain and not grass.
>
> Exactly how much time cows should spend grazing before their milk can
> carry the government's organic label is under scrutiny. Several hundred
> farmers and organic advocates want organic dairy rules tightened so
> that cows have more than what they call token access to pasture.
>
> [...]
>
> Milk from the Ronnybrook Farm Dairy in the Hudson Valley, which is sold
> in bottles at Manhattan's Greenmarkets, is not certified organic. The
> dairy uses no artificial growth hormones, but it treats sick animals
> with antibiotics. In the summer the animals eat mostly pasture; in the
> winter they eat hay with grain mixed in.
>
> [...]
>
> "We believe in the benefits of grass," Mr. Siemon of Organic Valley
> said, not that all of the 534 farmers who sell the cooperative milk can
> meet its pasture standards. Weather and other factors can mean cows'
> diets must be supplemented with grain.
>
> [...]
>
> Ultrapasteurized milk can taste creamier than traditionally pasteurized
> milk, but it can also take on a cooked or burnt flavor. Research is
> still being done on how much the process compromises the milk's
> nutritional profile. Because the nature of the milk protein is changed
> at such high temperatures, ultrapasteurized cream can take longer to
> whip and never quite achieves the same light, fluffy texture. With
> either method, an opened carton will stay fresh for only about a week.
>
> For the nation's top organic milk producers, ultrapasteurizing has been
> a godsend. "The availability of ultrapasteurization has allowed organic
> milk to enter markets it might not otherwise," Ms. McLaughlin of
> Horizon said.
>
> At Organic Valley, where almost two-thirds of the milk is
> ultrapasteurized, its panels of tasters prefer it, Mr. Siemon said.
>
> But for purists, unpasteurized, or raw milk, is the only way to go. It
> can be delicious and more nutritious, but finding raw milk takes a lot
> of work. In most states it can be sold legally only on the farm or
> through clubs in which people buy shares of a cow and divide the milk.
> And raw milk can pose a health hazard, especially for people with
> weakened immune systems.
>
> [...]
>
> At Pathmark, a half-gallon of regular milk was $1.70. The same size of
> Horizon Organic milk was $4.29. Organic milk is so expensive that most
> state governments consider it a luxury item and will not pay for it
> under low-income food programs like the Special Supplemental Nutrition
> Program for Women, Infants and Children.
>
> Ann Lickteig, a mother of four in Burlington, Vt., stopped buying
> organic milk when it reached nearly $5 a gallon. Now she goes to a
> local store on Mondays, when milk from a local dairy is on sale for
> $2.99 a gallon.
>
> "I buy the milk that says no growth hormones, but I don't know that
> that's the only thing to worry about," she said. "I don't want my kids
> exposed to potentially harmful chemicals, but I haven't done the
> research myself."
>
> For some parents, cost does not matter. Nor do the intricacies of the
> organic pasture rules. They search for the organic label and buy it, no
> matter what.
>
> "I look at what I pay for everything else, but I don't for the milk,"
> said Ms. Gersten, the Long Island dentist. "Buying any other milk for
> him is just not an option."
>
> The entire article @:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/di...rssnyt&emc=rss
> aka http://tinyurl.com/dnh8c
>
> --
> Curt
>


Thanks for the post!

-Lester


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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Lester Long wrote:
> "Curt James" wrote
> > Lester Long wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> Is the price much different?

> >
> > According to the New York Times, it is indeed expensive.
> >
> > This article is from nearly a year ago, but offers some applicable
> > info:
> >
> > An Organic Cash Cow
> >
> > By Kim Severson

[...]

You're welcome for the post, of course, but Kim had me laughing.
Perhaps unintentionally. Maybe I can muster a few laughs from the MFW
crowd.

> > Milk is considered a gateway to organic food.


I loved that quote. "Milk is considered a gateway to organic food." Is
that like a gateway drug? Just the word gateway in connection to a
health food made me laugh a bit. )

[...]

> > "access to pasture," a term so vague it could mean that a cow might
> > spend most of its milk-producing life confined to a feed lot eating
> > grain and not grass.


And the journalist's comment proved to me that semantics may come into
play even wrt health foods. If the milk packagers (what would you call
them?) define "access to pasture," as something like "the cows can SEE
a field, you know, off in the distance but not within reach," then how
much access is there really?

[...]

> > <snip> token access to pasture.


Token access to pasture? Another chuckle there. Picture this little
acre of grass pasture that no cow ever sets foot on. Looking all sad
while muttering, "Oh, sure, I'm just the token pasture."

[...]

> > "We believe in the benefits of grass,"


And here I was picturing a cow with a joint and dreadlocks. "WE BELIEVE
IN THE BENEFITS OF DA GRASS, MON! YEAH, MON! MOOOO!!!"

[...]

> > organic milk when it reached nearly $5 a gallon.


How much would that be per barrel? Is OPEC involved? (In this context
OPEC might be the acronym for... Organic Pasteurizers Economic Cows?)

> > "I buy the milk that says no growth hormones, but


Oh, the hell with that! I'm a skinny bastard. Point me to the milk that
says "YES WE USE GROWTH HORMONES!!!!!"

[...]

> Thanks for the post!


Again, you're welcome, Lester Long! Thank YOU for presenting me with
this opportunity to insert the jokes. D

> -Lester


Good training and healthy eating to you.

--
Curt

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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Brad wrote:
> Jesus, Robert. You must be getting old. I don't think 8 years ago you would
> have drunk organic anything unless it had liquified oral test in it. ;-)


[...]

Mr. Schuh is currently attending to one of his cats. That or a drum of
some kind. Anyway, I'm here to informally welcome you back to the MFW
fold and to offer you Mr. Schuh's imaginary (however often based in
fact) comments. I'm not associated in anyway with Robert Schuh, however
I believe it's safe to provide the following selection of responses all
the same. Again, welcome back. Choose one or more of the following:

a. YOU ANONYMOUS PUSSY TROLL!
b. Ignorant bitch.
c. Liquified oral test? It simply AMAZES me how someone can offer
information when they don't have a clue as to what they're talking
about! AND I HAVE A 24-INCH WAIST!!!!
d. I'll bet that my SAT verbal score is higher than your combined SAT
score!
e. My wrists are smaller than my exgirlfriend's Jackie Paisley.
f. Old? I'm not old. Why if I was old, would I have been admitted to
one of the most prestigious privates schools in the universe? You're
obviously a moron!
g. other

--
Curt, member of the Unauthorized Robert Schuh Substitute Welcoming
Committee

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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WTF? You gonna answer my email or what....!? ;^)


Rob




"Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4531D8B4.B3F85605@hameggsyahoo.com...
> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1% milk
> and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that I
> have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it tastes
> like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.
>
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
>
>



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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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Lester Long wrote:

> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
> news:4pfb64Fima88U1@individual.net...
> > "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4531D8B4.B3F85605@hameggsyahoo.com...
> >> Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
> >> decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1% milk
> >> and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that I
> >> have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it tastes
> >> like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.

> >
> > Agreed. We learned this lesson from our kids and their friends - all our
> > kids' friends who liked to drink milk had parents who bought them organic
> > milk, so we switched and the kids now drink the stuff much more than they
> > used to.
> >
> > -S-
> > http://www.kbnj.com

>
> Is the price much different?


It is about a buck more/ half gallon.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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Brad wrote:

> Jesus, Robert. You must be getting old. I don't think 8 years ago you would
> have drunk organic anything unless it had liquified oral test in it. ;-)


Is this the Brad that was with Erika? If so, how have you been?

Take care

Rob

>
>
> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4531D8B4.B3F85605@hameggsyahoo.com...
> > Don't worry guys, I am not going tree hugger on all of you, but I
> > decided to try some Organic milk a few months back. I bought the 1% milk
> > and I have to tell you that is is by far THE best tasting milk that I
> > have ever had in my life. Whenever I drink "regular" milk now, it tastes
> > like paper. Anyone who likes milk should really try it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Robert Schuh
> > "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> > intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> > the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> > the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> > - Nietzsche
> >
> > http://www.hardbopdrums.com/
> >
> >





--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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Brad wrote:

> Jesus, Robert. You must be getting old. I don't think 8 years ago you would
> have drunk organic anything unless it had liquified oral test in it. ;-)
>
>


I just saw something really odd. Ericca is listed at IMDB, but it does not show
that she has been on any TV or movies. What is that about? :-)



--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/


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Old 11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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On 15 Oct 2006 14:51:57 -0700, "Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com>
wrote:


>According to the New York Times, it is indeed expensive.
>
>This article is from nearly a year ago, but offers some applicable
>info:
>
>An Organic Cash Cow
>
>By Kim Severson
>
><snip>


Interesting article. Sounds like you don't really know what you are
getting. I have tasted raw milk before and I thought it was gross.
It can also make you sick like they mention in the article. My
friend's family growing up owned a dairy farm. I am pretty sure the
cows they used growth hormones. They did have lot of fields but
these where for the younger cows bred by the bull. Most of the fields
where used to grow corn and hay to feed the cows through winter. And
the older cows where artificially inseminated and didn't get much
pasture time.

An interesting note about their business. The government let New
England farmers put in a bid during the 80's. You see the mid
western farmers where going broke so they offered to buyout the NE
farmers to cut the competition down. They had to brand their cows and
sell them over seas. They got paid for five years to do nothing and
kept all the money from selling their supplies. Then they went into
the compost business. Not sure how many years late before their where
complaints of milk shortages and a rise in price. That is your hard
earned tax dollars at work for yeah.


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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:57:11 -0400, "Steve Freides"
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>Agreed. We learned this lesson from our kids and their friends - all
>our kids' friends who liked to drink milk had parents who bought them
>organic milk, so we switched and the kids now drink the stuff much more
>than they used to.


I wish my parents where not so cheap on stuff. I found out in my 30's
there was some orange juice that tastes great. And that not all
vegetables taste as horrible as frozen peas.


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Rob Duncan wrote:

> WTF? You gonna answer my email or what....!? ;^)
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> Rob
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When did you send it?



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"Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message news:4535BF23.F30F26EF@hameggsyahoo.com...
Rob Duncan wrote:
WTF? You gonna answer my email or what....!? ;^)
Rob


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When did you send it?


A while back.... Cant remember. May be going down to phnx or Vegas here pretty soon. Would love to hook up again. heres a myspace page that shows my incredibly awesome muscles that everyone is so jealous about. LOL. Have gained a bit of weight over the past few months. Feeling pretty good. MS is at bay, so most things are good. My new wife is, uh, awesome to say the least....!


Take care,


Rob
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"Rob Duncan" <robtakethisoutduncan@gobigwest.com> wrote in message
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"Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
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Rob Duncan wrote:
WTF? You gonna answer my email or what....!? ;^)
Rob

>
>

When did you send it?


A while back.... Cant remember. May be going down to phnx or Vegas here
pretty soon. Would love to hook up again. heres a myspace page that shows
my incredibly awesome muscles that everyone is so jealous about. LOL.
Have gained a bit of weight over the past few months. Feeling pretty good.
MS is at bay, so most things are good. My new wife is, uh, awesome to say
the least....!


Take care,


Rob

stupid fucking thing... heres the url. myspace.com/120594345


Lets see if that works....



Rob


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