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Old 08-05-2008, 12:26 AM
sjobs12@yahoo.com
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Default Pain from the shoulder

About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
might
have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
my
left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
hand
aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
hand
for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
away. My
doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
a
specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.

Has anybody experienced this?

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Old 08-05-2008, 08:23 AM
Jason Carlton
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On Aug 4, 6:53*pm, sjob...@yahoo.com wrote:
> About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
> might
> have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
> my
> left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
> hand
> aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
> hand
> for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
> away. My
> doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
> a
> specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
> any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.
>
> Has anybody experienced this?


Been there, and boy, do I feel for ya! Mine stemmed from a slightly
crooked bench, so when I was bench pressing the lift-off was putting a
little extra stress on my right shoulder. I had a small tear in the
tendon, and it hurt ALL the time!

After I found and corrected the faulty bench, the pain subsided, but
didn't go away completely. I didn't stop working out completely, but I
removed all shoulder and pec isolation exercises; meaning, I focused
completely on upper body compound exercises (bench, incline, pull ups,
bent over rows). I also used a slightly narrower grip on bench press,
which removed a little of the stress I was putting on that particular
tendon.

Everyone recommended that I stop exercising, too, but I just wasn't
going to do that. The recovery took longer than it should have, I'm
sure, but now I'm doing fine. It probably took closer to 8 months for
me to forget about my "bad shoulder."

Be forewarned, though, I remember a coach in high school that ignored
a torn tendon, and ended up ripping the tendon completely! That was
horrible to witness. So while I'm an idiot and worked through it,
anyway, I would never recommend that anyone else do it unless they're
seriously prepared for the worst.
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:41 PM
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On Aug 5, 2:41 am, Jason Carlton <jwcarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 4, 6:53 pm, sjob...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
> > might
> > have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
> > my
> > left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
> > hand
> > aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
> > hand
> > for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
> > away. My
> > doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
> > a
> > specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
> > any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.

>
> > Has anybody experienced this?

>
> Been there, and boy, do I feel for ya! Mine stemmed from a slightly
> crooked bench, so when I was bench pressing the lift-off was putting a
> little extra stress on my right shoulder. I had a small tear in the
> tendon, and it hurt ALL the time!
>
> After I found and corrected the faulty bench, the pain subsided, but
> didn't go away completely. I didn't stop working out completely, but I
> removed all shoulder and pec isolation exercises; meaning, I focused
> completely on upper body compound exercises (bench, incline, pull ups,
> bent over rows). I also used a slightly narrower grip on bench press,
> which removed a little of the stress I was putting on that particular
> tendon.
>
> Everyone recommended that I stop exercising, too, but I just wasn't
> going to do that. The recovery took longer than it should have, I'm
> sure, but now I'm doing fine. It probably took closer to 8 months for


It took me at least 2 years before I could bench again after trying to
'work through' mine. DON'T DO IT!


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Old 08-05-2008, 07:44 PM
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<sjobs12@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0a79a5d7-6218-4ea3-a614-bcc816c3b337@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
> might
> have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
> my
> left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
> hand
> aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
> hand
> for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
> away. My
> doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
> a
> specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
> any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.
>
> Has anybody experienced this?


My suggestion in general: see how it feels with reduced activity. If it
gets better, you can gradually resume regular activity. If, OTOH, it
only gets a little better but doesn't completely recover, then it's
absolutely time to see the doctor.

You sound like you've been through the first phase, it hasn't gotten
better, so it's off to the doctor you go.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com


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Old 08-06-2008, 12:08 AM
Andrzej Rosa
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sjobs12@yahoo.com wrote:

> About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
> might
> have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
> my
> left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
> hand
> aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
> hand
> for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
> away. My
> doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
> a
> specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
> any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.
>
> Has anybody experienced this?


Most guys here did experience something like what you describe. This winter
I had injured forearm and renewed my shoulder injury (which sounds just
like yours). I managed to get my pre-injury one-armed snatch today
(easily), so you have a time frame of how long it's going to take to fix
something fairly minor. My shoulder still isn't as strong as it used to
be, though I work around it (not through it) and I do not suffer any pain.

So, here you have it. At least six months of reduced stress for your
injured part, and then it may still not be fixed. Shoulders are a bitch to
heal.

Do not work through your injury. Find things which don't hurt and focus on
improvements there. It might be that you will be reduced to training legs
day after day. For the whole spring I did just that. But it's worth it,
when after a long wait you finally feel robust again.

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Old 08-06-2008, 02:58 AM
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On Aug 5, 6:34*pm, Andrzej Rosa <bakt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> sjob...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
> > might
> > have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
> > my
> > left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
> > hand
> > aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
> > hand
> > for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
> > away. My
> > doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
> > a
> > specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
> > any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.

>
> > Has anybody experienced this?

>
> Most guys here did experience something like what you describe. *This winter
> I had injured forearm and renewed my shoulder injury (which sounds just
> like yours). *I managed to get my pre-injury one-armed snatch today
> (easily), so you have a time frame of how long it's going to take to fix
> something fairly minor. *My shoulder still isn't as strong as it used to
> be, though I work around it (not through it) and I do not suffer any pain..
>
> So, here you have it. *At least six months of reduced stress for your
> injured part, and then it may still not be fixed. *Shoulders are a bitch to
> heal.
>
> Do not work through your injury. *Find things which don't hurt and focus on
> improvements there. *It might be that you will be reduced to training legs
> day after day. *For the whole spring I did just that. *But it's worthit,
> when after a long wait you finally feel robust again.
>
> --
> Andrzej Rosa- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -



Like I said, don't listen to me. Just because I'm an idiot and somehow
turned out OK doesn't mean that you should follow suit.

If you DO continue, I should have also mentioned that in addition to
dropping isolation exercises and just doing compound exercises, I also
I lowered my reps substantially. Reps seemed to hurt more than lifting
heavy weight.

I guess what it boils down to is, if it hurts, don't do it. That
sounds like this corny joke my dad used to say all the time, but in
this case it's really true.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:36 AM
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Thanks everyone. Yes, I plan to completely rest this shoulder and deal
with the problem till it heals completely.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:30 PM
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<sjobs12@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0a79a5d7-6218-4ea3-a614-bcc816c3b337@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
> might
> have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
> my
> left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
> hand
> aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
> hand
> for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
> away. My
> doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
> a
> specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
> any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.
>
> Has anybody experienced this?
>


Jayzuus! Six months is a bit draconian.

I frequently acquire shoulder/elbo/knee injuries, and I have learned over
the years to stop and let them rest and heal (keyword here (heal*) for a
period of time. I can't suggest what that length of time might be for you,
but I suspect it is prolly a lot longer than "a few days". Try a few
weeks...with appropriate, daily sports cream treatments. Once you get a
good feel for it, return to your regimen very gradualy/slowly--with adequate
warm up and stretches beforehand. Bruce Lee once said that the older an
athlete becomes the longer he takes in warming up. "Not because he's older,
but because he's smarter." Good advice.

The general mode for everyday gym guys is to begin an exercise with a light
set and then *too* quickly move to the heavy ones. This usually constitutes
their *warm up* and is seldom enough.

--Hammond


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Old 08-07-2008, 12:46 PM
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On Aug 6, 11:20*pm, "Hammond" <V...@Apex.net> wrote:
> <sjob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:0a79a5d7-6218-4ea3-a614-bcc816c3b337@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > About 6 to 9 months ago, I did a upper body workout and my left hand
> > might
> > have been used inappropriately. Anyway, since then, there is a pain in
> > my
> > left shoulder and it is not going away. Any workout I do with my left
> > hand
> > aggravates it. Even swimming causes problems. If I stop using the left
> > hand
> > for any workouts for a few days, the pain reduces but does not go
> > away. My
> > doctor gave me some medicines but they didn't work. He asked me to see
> > a
> > specialist. Someone suggested that I give up doing any exercises and
> > any lifting with my left hand for 6 months.

>
> > Has anybody experienced this?

>
> Jayzuus! * Six months is a bit draconian.
>
> I frequently acquire shoulder/elbo/knee injuries, and I have learned over
> the years to stop and let them rest and heal (keyword here (heal*) for a
> period of time. *I can't suggest what that length of time might be for you,
> but I suspect it is prolly a lot longer than "a few days". *Try a few
> weeks...with appropriate, daily sports cream treatments. *Once you get a
> good feel for it, return to your regimen very gradualy/slowly--with adequate
> warm up and stretches beforehand. * Bruce Lee once said that the older an
> athlete becomes the longer he takes in warming up. *"Not because he's older,
> but because he's smarter." * Good advice.
>
> The general mode for everyday gym guys is to begin an exercise with a light
> set and then *too* quickly move to the heavy ones. *This usually constitutes
> their *warm up* and is seldom enough.
>
> --Hammond- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thats a good prevention, but can exacerbate the problem. Part of
warming up includes natural anesthesia, and can facilitate further
damage.

B
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:46 PM
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BOfL wrote:
> Part of
> warming up includes natural anesthesia,


Please elaborate on this.

Ari

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Old 08-25-2008, 09:39 AM
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more info about pec tears: www.pectear.com !

good info about pectoralis major ruptures!
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