pec pain

Hi,

this is the first time I have posted to this group.

been working out with some assistance from prescription and non-
prescription substances.

recently my pec area has become a bit sore.

any of you guys experienced this?

it is not tightness of muscles from a hard workout.

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> schreef:

Hi, my name is Pete.

I took anabolic steroids, and as a result, my nipples feel sore. No, i am
not looking for a cure.

I wondered if there are men here that would play with my nipples.

Its nice.

--
Pete

Hi Pete,

so this is fairly common and nothing to be worried about?

On Mar 23, 4:23 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> Hi, my name is Pete.
>
> I took anabolic steroids, and as a result, my nipples feel sore. No, i am
> not looking for a cure.
>
> I wondered if there are men here that would play with my nipples.
>
> Its nice.
>
> --
> Pete

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> schreef:

> Hi Pete,

> so this is fairly common and nothing to be worried about?

Its common, but i would be worried. Switch to something that doesnt
aromatize, add some Proviron and some estrogen blockers.

--
Pete

I'm not that up on this terminology. I don't mean to sound ignorant,
but I don't know what you mean.

On Mar 23, 4:41 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> > Hi Pete,
> > so this is fairly common and nothing to be worried about?
>
> Its common, but i would be worried. Switch to something that doesnt
> aromatize, add some Proviron and some estrogen blockers.
>
> --
> Pete

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> schreef:

> I'm not that up on this terminology. I don't mean to sound ignorant,
> but I don't know what you mean.

But you used anabolic steroids, didnt you?

The same source that provided you with AS, can provide you with those
substances.

I suggest you google;

Clomid, Nolvadex, Arimidex, Cytadren, Proviron, SERM, estrogen blocker,
aromataze inhibitor, aromataze enzyme, aromatization, estrogen, androgen and
gynocomasia. And bitchtits.

Start here;

http://groups.google.nl/group/misc.f...+in+deze+groep

That should keep you occupied for a few days.

You better contact someone ASAP that can provide you with those substances.
Or go see your doctor. Having gyno is not illigal, and neither are the
substances that cure it.

--
Pete

In article <1174643519.227737.156270@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups .com>,
needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:

> I'm not that up on this terminology.

Then you should not be using drugs that make your chest/nipple sore if you
know this little about the drugs you are using.

> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
> but I don't know what you mean.

Then stop using drugs and do some research. Ignornace kills.


>
> On Mar 23, 4:41 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> > <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
> >
> > > Hi Pete,
> > > so this is fairly common and nothing to be worried about?
> >
> > Its common, but i would be worried. Switch to something that doesnt
> > aromatize, add some Proviron and some estrogen blockers.
> >
> > --
> > Pete

--
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"It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

Will Brink wrote:
> In article <1174643519.227737.156270@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups .com>,
> needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I'm not that up on this terminology.
>
> Then you should not be using drugs that make your chest/nipple sore if you
> know this little about the drugs you are using.
>
>> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
>> but I don't know what you mean.
>
> Then stop using drugs and do some research. Ignornace kills.

Especially if you are smothered by your own giant man titties.

>
>
>> On Mar 23, 4:41 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>>> <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>> so this is fairly common and nothing to be worried about?
>>> Its common, but i would be worried. Switch to something that doesnt
>>> aromatize, add some Proviron and some estrogen blockers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pete
>


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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Will Brink wrote:

> In article <1174643519.227737.156270@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups .com>,
> needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I don't mean to sound ignorant, but I don't know what you mean.
>
> Then stop using drugs and do some research. Ignornace kills.

Or, in this case, chafes.

tom

--
The ``is'' keyword binds with the same precedence as ``.'', even when
it's not actually there. -- Larry Wall, Apocalypse 2

yes, I used AS along with a number of supplements from the health food
store.

I looked up some of your terms and while it is a lot to digest at one
time, I think I made a major error.




On Mar 23, 5:47 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> > I'm not that up on this terminology. I don't mean to sound ignorant,
> > but I don't know what you mean.
>
> But you used anabolic steroids, didnt you?
>
> The same source that provided you with AS, can provide you with those
> substances.
>
> I suggest you google;
>
> Clomid, Nolvadex, Arimidex, Cytadren, Proviron, SERM, estrogen blocker,
> aromataze inhibitor, aromataze enzyme, aromatization, estrogen, androgen and
> gynocomasia. And bitchtits.
>
> Start here;
>
> http://groups.google.nl/group/misc.f...ch?hl=nl&group...
>
> That should keep you occupied for a few days.
>
> You better contact someone ASAP that can provide you with those substances.
> Or go see your doctor. Having gyno is not illigal, and neither are the
> substances that cure it.
>
> --
> Pete

after more research and some self examination, I was able to feel
lumps.



On Mar 23, 5:47 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> > I'm not that up on this terminology. I don't mean to sound ignorant,
> > but I don't know what you mean.
>
> But you used anabolic steroids, didnt you?
>
> The same source that provided you with AS, can provide you with those
> substances.
>
> I suggest you google;
>
> Clomid, Nolvadex, Arimidex, Cytadren, Proviron, SERM, estrogen blocker,
> aromataze inhibitor, aromataze enzyme, aromatization, estrogen, androgen and
> gynocomasia. And bitchtits.
>
> Start here;
>
> http://groups.google.nl/group/misc.f...ch?hl=nl&group...
>
> That should keep you occupied for a few days.
>
> You better contact someone ASAP that can provide you with those substances.
> Or go see your doctor. Having gyno is not illigal, and neither are the
> substances that cure it.
>
> --
> Pete

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> schreef:

> after more research and some self examination, I was able to feel
> lumps.

Lumps can be very cool, actually.

--
Pete

On Mar 24, 8:12 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> Lumps can be very cool, actually.
>
> --
> Pete

they don't feel very cool, actually.

I know you guys must think I'm an idiot, but now that I know what the
problem is I can use some help or support.

On Mar 24, 8:20 am, needanufriend...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 24, 8:12 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>
> > Lumps can be very cool, actually.
>
> > --
> > Pete
>
> they don't feel very cool, actually.

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

><needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> wrote
>>I know you guys must think I'm an idiot, but now that I know what the
>> problem is I can use some help or support.
>
>Do you need me to call and set up the appointment with your doctor, or can
>you handle that yourself?
>
>When he comes into the examination room, say "I have gyno from ignorant,
>uneducated, use of anabolic steroids. Please help."
>
>Then he'll help you, and charge you lots of money.

Of course, that help will involve the doctor pulling out a scalpel and
saying, "Say hullo to my leetle frien'!"

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> wrote
>I know you guys must think I'm an idiot, but now that I know what the
> problem is I can use some help or support.

Do you need me to call and set up the appointment with your doctor, or can
you handle that yourself?

When he comes into the examination room, say "I have gyno from ignorant,
uneducated, use of anabolic steroids. Please help."

Then he'll help you, and charge you lots of money.

David

I feel like crap and I feel like crawling under a table right now.

what specialty takes care of this problem?

I can go to my primary care doctor, but what good is that?

I dont want to admit to any illegal activities.

I stopped using the AS. wll the lumps go away?


> Do you need me to call and set up the appointment with your doctor, or can
> you handle that yourself?
>
> When he comes into the examination room, say "I have gyno from ignorant,
> uneducated, use of anabolic steroids. Please help."
>
> Then he'll help you, and charge you lots of money.
>
> David

needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:

>I feel like crap and I feel like crawling under a table right now.
>
>what specialty takes care of this problem?
>
>I can go to my primary care doctor, but what good is that?
>
>I dont want to admit to any illegal activities.
>
>I stopped using the AS. wll the lumps go away?

No, but maybe you could hire yourself out as wet nurse.

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> wrote
>I feel like crap and I feel like crawling under a table right now.

That's nice. What will happen when actually bad things happen in your life?

> what specialty takes care of this problem?

Your MD will make any necessary referrals.

> I can go to my primary care doctor, but what good is that?

He gets to utilize all that expensive medical education to diagnose and
treat you.

> I dont want to admit to any illegal activities.

Why? The only person (except your attorney and maybe your priest in
confessional) who you can admit illegal activities to without repercusions
is your doctor. And your priest and lawyer can't fix your gyno.

> I stopped using the AS. wll the lumps go away?

Nope.

David

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> schreef:

>I know you guys must think I'm an idiot, but now that I know what the
> problem is I can use some help or support.

What do you want us to do?

--
Pete

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> schreef:

> Why? The only person (except your attorney and maybe your priest in
> confessional) who you can admit illegal activities to without repercusions
> is your doctor. And your priest and lawyer can't fix your gyno.

Well, the priest can say a prayer, cant he?

>> I stopped using the AS. wll the lumps go away?

> Nope.

And beware of people who might suggest that you start taking HCG (sorry...)
to give endogenous (sorry...) T-production (sorry...) a boost, since it will
result in more estrogens and might cause upregulation of the aromataze
enzymes.

This hasnt been proven, but there is plenty of anecdotal stuff to be found.

--
Pete

needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
> I feel like crap and I feel like crawling under a table right now.
>

That worries me. Be very wary of depression following suddenly stopping
AS. I need to learn more about the factors that contribute to steroid
related depression (other than people with psychological issues trying
to use steroids to feel better then harming themselves when this doesn't
work), such as dose, time taking the drug, etc.

> what specialty takes care of this problem?

cosmetic surgeon. you could always have them enlarged and open your own
porn site...

>
> I can go to my primary care doctor, but what good is that?

he can refer you to a surgeon and deal with other issues you may not be
aware of as a result of this endeavor.

>
> I dont want to admit to any illegal activities.

Do doctors call the police when their patients need a shot of
antibiotics because they caught the clap from a prostitute? No. You're
safe, tell the doc EVERYTHING. Leaving out details may harm you.

>
> I stopped using the AS. wll the lumps go away?
>

Afraid not.

Ari

>
>> Do you need me to call and set up the appointment with your doctor, or can
>> you handle that yourself?
>>
>> When he comes into the examination room, say "I have gyno from ignorant,
>> uneducated, use of anabolic steroids. Please help."
>>
>> Then he'll help you, and charge you lots of money.
>>
>> David
>
>


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In article <GokNh.17331$Jl.6798@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink. net>, "David
Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> wrote:

> <needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> wrote
> >I know you guys must think I'm an idiot, but now that I know what the
> > problem is I can use some help or support.
>
> Do you need me to call and set up the appointment with your doctor, or can
> you handle that yourself?
>
> When he comes into the examination room, say "I have gyno from ignorant,
> uneducated, use of anabolic steroids. Please help."

The really annoying part is he will go onto blame the steroids for his
problems vs blaming his ignorance of the drugs he took.

--
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"It twas ever thus! " - Mr Natural

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:14:41 +0900, spodosaurus
<spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com.au> wrote:

>Will Brink wrote:
>> In article <1174643519.227737.156270@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups .com>,
>> needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not that up on this terminology.
>>
>> Then you should not be using drugs that make your chest/nipple sore if you
>> know this little about the drugs you are using.
>>
>>> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
>>> but I don't know what you mean.
>>
>> Then stop using drugs and do some research. Ignornace kills.
>
>Especially if you are smothered by your own giant man titties.

The politically correct term is bitch tits.

>
> The politically correct term is bitch tits.- Hide quoted text -
>
okay already so i got bitch tits. i did not mean to complain about
you guys. thanks for the help.

will call the doctor tomorrow.

needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The politically correct term is bitch tits.- Hide quoted text -
>>
> okay already so i got bitch tits. i did not mean to complain about
> you guys. thanks for the help.
>
> will call the doctor tomorrow.
>
>

Don't feel too bad, some guys get these 'just because'. The treatment is
the same.

Ari

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Shute wrote:
> spodosaurus wrote:
> >Will Brink wrote:
> >> needanufriend...@yahoo wrote:
[...]

> >>> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
> >>> but I don't know what you mean.
>
> >> Then stop using drugs and do some
> >> research. Ignornace kills.
>
> > Especially if you are smothered by your
> > own giant man titties.
>
> The politically correct term is bitch tits.

Man boobs.

HEY, BRINK! WHICH TERM DO YOU PREFER??!!!

To the OP aka needanufriend, don't sweat it. Go see your doctor, it
might be wise to NOT talk to any law enforcement representative about
anything incriminating, and - I'm guessing - you'll be fine. Best of
luck.

And, hey, read and digest the info found by following the links you've
been offered. Uh, for entertainment purposes only, of course.

Please post a follow-up.

--
Curt

On Mar 25, 12:58 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shute wrote:
> > spodosaurus wrote:
> > >Will Brink wrote:
> > >> needanufriend...@yahoo wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > >>> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
> > >>> but I don't know what you mean.
>
> > >> Then stop using drugs and do some
> > >> research. Ignornace kills.
>
> > > Especially if you are smothered by your
> > > own giant man titties.
>
> > The politically correct term is bitch tits.
>
> Man boobs.
>
> HEY, BRINK! WHICH TERM DO YOU PREFER??!!!
>
> To the OP aka needanufriend, don't sweat it. Go see your doctor, it
> might be wise to NOT talk to any law enforcement representative about
> anything incriminating, and - I'm guessing - you'll be fine. Best of
> luck.
>
> And, hey, read and digest the info found by following the links you've
> been offered. Uh, for entertainment purposes only, of course.
>
> Please post a follow-up.
>
> --
> Curt

I'm sure some of you are enjoying this. I made a big mistake.

looking at some of the other discussions, one guy had a problem
getting those prescriptions even though his own doctor gave him the
testosterone.

will those female prescriptions take care of it without surgery? or is
that something the doctor will have to decide?

thanks for your help.

On 25 Mar 2007 08:13:17 -0700, needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>>
>> The politically correct term is bitch tits.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>okay already so i got bitch tits. i did not mean to complain about
>you guys. thanks for the help.
>
>will call the doctor tomorrow.

People complain in newsgroups all the time. No need to apologize for
it. Hopefully now you know steroids are not the same as just taking
an over the counter supplement.

On Mar 25, 5:48 pm, Shute <S...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> People complain in newsgroups all the time. No need to apologize for
> it. Hopefully now you know steroids are not the same as just taking
> an over the counter supplement.

I learned a very important lesson here.

I liked the way I looked and felt while using them. now reading up, I
hope that the bitch tits are the least of my problems.

thanks again

needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 25, 12:58 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Shute wrote:
>>> spodosaurus wrote:
>>>> Will Brink wrote:
>>>>> needanufriend...@yahoo wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>> I don't mean to sound ignorant,
>>>>>> but I don't know what you mean.
>>>>> Then stop using drugs and do some
>>>>> research. Ignornace kills.
>>>> Especially if you are smothered by your
>>>> own giant man titties.
>>> The politically correct term is bitch tits.
>> Man boobs.
>>
>> HEY, BRINK! WHICH TERM DO YOU PREFER??!!!
>>
>> To the OP aka needanufriend, don't sweat it. Go see your doctor, it
>> might be wise to NOT talk to any law enforcement representative about
>> anything incriminating, and - I'm guessing - you'll be fine. Best of
>> luck.
>>
>> And, hey, read and digest the info found by following the links you've
>> been offered. Uh, for entertainment purposes only, of course.
>>
>> Please post a follow-up.
>>
>> --
>> Curt
>
> I'm sure some of you are enjoying this. I made a big mistake.
>
> looking at some of the other discussions, one guy had a problem
> getting those prescriptions even though his own doctor gave him the
> testosterone.
>
> will those female prescriptions take care of it without surgery?

No

or is
> that something the doctor will have to decide?
>
> thanks for your help.
>


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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com.au> schreef:

>> I feel like crap and I feel like crawling under a table right now.

> That worries me. Be very wary of depression following suddenly stopping
> AS.

Sounds very normal to me.

Normally, that can be circumvented very easily with HCG+Primo+Proviron.

Or the mere use of orals for about 4-6 weeks, tapering down.

But it seems he is unaware of this.

> I need to learn more about the factors that contribute to steroid related
> depression (other than people with psychological issues trying to use
> steroids to feel better then harming themselves when this doesn't work),
> such as dose, time taking the drug, etc.

I think they are psychologically addictive in such a way, that you can
actually train better/harder/more, and get more results. Then you stop, and
lose most of it, if not all.

Which can be prevented.

>> what specialty takes care of this problem?

> cosmetic surgeon. you could always have them enlarged and open your own
> porn site...

Dont forget regular injections with prolactine and progesterone. Its nice.

>> I dont want to admit to any illegal activities.

> Do doctors call the police when their patients need a shot of antibiotics
> because they caught the clap from a prostitute? No. You're safe, tell the
> doc EVERYTHING. Leaving out details may harm you.

Thats what i was thinking. Gyno is a medical condition.

>> I stopped using the AS. wll the lumps go away?

> Afraid not.

It might, it might...
But you never know.

--
Pete

"Will Brink" <willbrink@comcast.net> schreef:

>> When he comes into the examination room, say "I have gyno from ignorant,
>> uneducated, use of anabolic steroids. Please help."

> The really annoying part is he will go onto blame the steroids for his
> problems vs blaming his ignorance of the drugs he took.

Whats even more annoying is that "doctors" will look at cases such as these,
and in their never ending quest to proof that anabolic steroids are
"baaaaaad" will actually think that they are right.

Some doctors like to demonize them, but the majority is just plain stupid,
and dont know any better.

15 years ago i visited an endrocrinologist who told me that taking HCG while
taking AS doesnt work. They work against each other. HCG stimulate the
testes, steroids supress them.

Makes sense, right?

I tried to explain to him that HCG more or less circemvent the whole HPTA,
and that stimulation of the testes is direct, even if you take a 1000,000
milligrams of test.

He was puzzled. Moron...

--
Pete

<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> schreef:

>> People complain in newsgroups all the time. No need to apologize for
>> it. Hopefully now you know steroids are not the same as just taking
>> an over the counter supplement.

> I learned a very important lesson here.

No you didnt.

You should have learned about anti-estrogens beforte you took a steroid that
could aromatize.

Now you think that ALL steroids are bad, and that side effects like this
happen ALWAYS.

I hate to say it, but you didnt learn anything. Sorry man.

> I liked the way I looked and felt while using them. now reading up, I
> hope that the bitch tits are the least of my problems.

I think they are.

You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.

--
Pete

>
> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.
>
> --
> Pete

I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.

also took lots of different anabolic like supplements from the health
food stores.

called the doctor's office and made an appointment. could not explain
the problem over the phone, but said it was very important. They
agreed to squeeze me in on Wednesday morning.

needless to say I have not been sleeping well. worse yet, now that my
attention has been drawn to the problem I frequently feel the area of
soreness.

needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
>> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.
>>
>> --
>> Pete
>
> I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
> varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.
>
> also took lots of different anabolic like supplements from the health
> food stores.
>
> called the doctor's office and made an appointment. could not explain
> the problem over the phone, but said it was very important. They
> agreed to squeeze me in on Wednesday morning.
>
> needless to say I have not been sleeping well. worse yet, now that my
> attention has been drawn to the problem I frequently feel the area of
> soreness.
>
>

1. Stop worrying the area
2. Stop worrying about it. It's done, you know what the cause was, and
you've been given pointers on how to prevent it happeneing again in the
future.
3. Unless you're a C-cup already, then stop worrying about it. It's not
making things any better and it won't accomplish anything, except
potentially making the potential (everyone can skip the posts about me
using potential twice) of a post-steroid period of depression worse.

I have to wonder about those pro-hormones (if that's what you were
taking, I don't bother with any of that, my use of AS is purely medical,
and I will stop as soon as I can, if ever - I already have nerve damage
and some paralysis from the injections done /exactly/ right). Are they
really being converted to androgenic/anabolic hormones? Are they just
broken down? Are they converted into female hormones? You'll /probably/
want to tell your doctor exactly what you took of these, too, if they
were prohormones.

Cheers,

Ari

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<needanufriendnow@yahoo.com> schreef:

>> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.

> I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
> varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.

How much is that in milligrams?

> also took lots of different anabolic like supplements from the health
> food stores.

That doesnt matter.

> called the doctor's office and made an appointment. could not explain
> the problem over the phone, but said it was very important. They
> agreed to squeeze me in on Wednesday morning.

I hope they fix it soon.

> needless to say I have not been sleeping well. worse yet, now that my
> attention has been drawn to the problem I frequently feel the area of
> soreness.

I would react the same way, i guess.

--
Pete

On Mar 27, 7:23 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
>
> >> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.
> > I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
> > varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.
>
> How much is that in milligrams?
>

the vials held 10 ml each.

needanufriendnow@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 27, 7:23 am, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>> <needanufriend...@yahoo.com> schreef:
>>
>>>> You still havent told us what you took, how much and how long.
>>> I was injecting testosterone. started 9 months ago. amount used
>>> varied but was going through a vial every couple of weeks.
>> How much is that in milligrams?
>>
>
> the vials held 10 ml each.
>

and what was the concentration? how many mg of test per ml?

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