Progress report, comments are up to you

Subject: Me, fat older bastard (185 lbs, 40-year old)

Goals: Get to less than 20% fat and/or 165 lbs, with the preference on
losing fat.

Program template: Basic Pavel _Power to the People 2_
Deadlifts & bench only

This week:

Weigh-in: 189 lbs

Deadlift
start = 120
end = 140

Incline bench
start = 65
end = 100

Notes: Still making those newbie gains. Form's getting better and a lot
more consistent throughout.

The numbers on the deadlifts aren't going up as fast as I'd like, both
due to miscalculating plates one day and hitting a treadmill first.

Slight to moderate hyperextension in L wrist as weights keep increasing;
this needs to watched as weak wrists are a known problem from previous
lifting experience. L arm also seems to lag behind right and probably
isn't doing its share of the work.

--
I have nothing at all against well-trained, knowledgeable Indian
technical support. I hope to speak to one before I retire. --JW, ASR

Steve the Geek wrote:
> Subject: Me, fat older bastard (185 lbs, 40-year old)

Subject: Me, fatter (okay, 3 lbs lighter), older, and more
"bastardier" - I'm guessing, and, hey, a few here might agree. (182
lbs after two turkey sandwiches with mayo, 45-year old in a few days)

> Goals: Get to less than 20% fat and/or 165 lbs, with the preference on
> losing fat.

Goals: Get to less than 20% fat and/or 200 lbs, with the preference on
gaining muscle.

> Program template: Basic Pavel _Power to the People 2_
> Deadlifts & bench only

Program template: General exercise program, pyramiding the compounds.

> This week:
>
> Weigh-in: 189 lbs

This week:

Weigh-in: 182 lbs (again, after the sandwiches)

> Deadlift
> start = 120
> end = 140
>
> Incline bench
> start = 65
> end = 100

Izzat in kilograms?

And what does that indicate? I'm not familiar with Pavel or his
workouts. At least not more than Freides' frequent mentions, visiting
Pavel's website at least once, and seeing some ads for his books in
Powerlifting USA.

> Notes: Still making those newbie gains. Form's getting better and a lot
> more consistent throughout.
>
> The numbers on the deadlifts aren't going up as fast as I'd like, both
> due to miscalculating plates one day and hitting a treadmill first.

I always do the treadmill after the weights.

> Slight to moderate hyperextension in L wrist as weights keep increasing;
> this needs to watched as weak wrists are a known problem from previous
> lifting experience. L arm also seems to lag behind right and probably
> isn't doing its share of the work.

The last time I included deadlifts in my program, things didn't go
especially well. I was doing 5 sets of 3 reps on squats, deadlift,
bench, and overhead press. I got overenthusiastic and apparently
borked something up in my lower back while doing 275 lbs for that 5 x
3. I had done 295 for the same 5 x 3 rep-scheme earlier that week, so
I didn't see any harm in continuing with the program.

Anyway, after nearly a year I think I'll give deadlifts a go again.

Bodybuilding.com has a MySpace-type setup which allows participants to
track their progress and interact with other lifters. You may want to
check out http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/ if that idea appeals to
you.

--
Curt

On Aug 11, 4:52 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The last time I included deadlifts in my program, things didn't go
> especially well. I was doing 5 sets of 3 reps on squats, deadlift,
> bench, and overhead press. I got overenthusiastic and apparently
> borked something up in my lower back while doing 275 lbs for that 5 x
> 3. I had done 295 for the same 5 x 3 rep-scheme earlier that week, so
> I didn't see any harm in continuing with the program.
>
> --
> Curt

your back was attacked viciously and misrepresented in the media? i
don't get it.

fuck deadlifts, man. they never did anything for me except bruise up
my shins. if my legs were shorter and my torso longer, then maybe.

kcmunchkin wrote:
I scribbled:

[...]
> > borked something up in my lower back while doing 275 lbs for that 5 x
> > 3. I had done 295 for the same 5 x 3 rep-scheme earlier that week, so
> > I didn't see any harm in continuing with the program.

> your back was attacked viciously and misrepresented in the media? i
> don't get it.

heh )

Okay, Mr. those-nominated-to-the-Supreme-Court-but-not-confirmed-by-
the-Senate Watcher!

> fuck deadlifts, man. they never did anything for me except bruise up
> my shins. if my legs were shorter and my torso longer, then maybe.

I've had my shins scuffed up from deads, too, but with a 32 inseam,
super long torso, and a 6-foot-plus wingspan dead lifts are my friend
more than benches or squats.

--
Curt

On Aug 12, 1:18 pm, "kcmunch...@gmail.com" <kcmunch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> your back was attacked viciously and misrepresented in the media? i
> don't get it.

What??

> fuck deadlifts, man. they never did anything for me except bruise up
> my shins. if my legs were shorter and my torso longer, then maybe.

I'm not sure what they "do" for me, either, since I can't actually see
my back! But it feels good, I enjoy the movement. Don't people work
out primarily for pleasure? Seriously, like how a dancer just has to
move, I think athletes naturally want to stretch and strain their
muscles, so the more movements (exercises) the merrier!

On Aug 11, 10:44 am, Steve the Geek <zvqavtugp...@pbzpnfg.arg> wrote:
> Subject: Me, fat older bastard (185 lbs, 40-year old)
>
> Goals: Get to less than 20% fat and/or 165 lbs, with the preference on
> losing fat.
>
> Program template: Basic Pavel _Power to the People 2_
> Deadlifts & bench only
>
> This week:
>
> Weigh-in: 189 lbs
>
> Deadlift
> start = 120
> end = 140
>
> Incline bench
> start = 65
> end = 100
>
> Notes: Still making those newbie gains. Form's getting better and a lot
> more consistent throughout.
>
> The numbers on the deadlifts aren't going up as fast as I'd like, both
> due to miscalculating plates one day and hitting a treadmill first.
>
> Slight to moderate hyperextension in L wrist as weights keep increasing;
> this needs to watched as weak wrists are a known problem from previous
> lifting experience. L arm also seems to lag behind right and probably
> isn't doing its share of the work.
>
> --
> I have nothing at all against well-trained, knowledgeable Indian
> technical support. I hope to speak to one before I retire. --JW, ASR



I know I'm in the minority here, but my counsel to newbies is always
to first get up to speed on the basics: Army P.T. standards for 2.1
miles, push-ups in 2 minutes, and crunches in 2 minutes (they actually
still use sit-ups, but those are often dangerous), and the Marines'
pull-ups in 2 mikes. No weights needed, less chance of injury.

I love weights, and I love machines, but before any of that I was
doing push-ups and other such basic calisthenics. They provide a
great foundation, and nicely complement a weight-training program
later on. As a matter of fact, my physique hasn't changed much with
weight training! I've gotten stronger, but in terms of just looks,
I've always looked like I could bench 315, even before (way before) I
actually did!

On Aug 11, 4:52 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> <SNIP>
>
>
> The last time I included deadlifts in my program, things didn't go
> especially well. I was doing 5 sets of 3 reps on squats, deadlift,
> bench, and overhead press. I got overenthusiastic and apparently
> borked something up in my lower back while doing 275 lbs for that 5 x
> 3. I had done 295 for the same 5 x 3 rep-scheme earlier that week, so
> I didn't see any harm in continuing with the program.
>
> Anyway, after nearly a year I think I'll give deadlifts a go again.

You definitely should; just go slow and easy, like I do, since I have
a herniated disc. Deadlifts are mainly about the legs, anyway -- yes,
bench presses are mainly about the triceps, and deadlifts are mainly
about the legs!

> Bodybuilding.com has a MySpace-type setup which allows participants to
> track their progress and interact with other lifters. You may want to
> check outhttp://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/if that idea appeals to
> you.

Yeah, I was going to do that, but decided to save it for when I have
good studio-quality photos. I don't know why the site doesn't disable
right-clicking, though; it's a simple JavaScript, no?

> --
> Curt

On Aug 13, 12:02 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 12, 1:18 pm, "kcmunch...@gmail.com" <kcmunch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > your back was attacked viciously and misrepresented in the media? i
> > don't get it.
>
> What??
>
> > fuck deadlifts, man. they never did anything for me except bruise up
> > my shins. if my legs were shorter and my torso longer, then maybe.
>
> I'm not sure what they "do" for me, either, since I can't actually see
> my back! But it feels good, I enjoy the movement. Don't people work
> out primarily for pleasure? Seriously, like how a dancer just has to
> move, I think athletes naturally want to stretch and strain their
> muscles, so the more movements (exercises) the merrier!

don't get me wrong. i always try to pack the maximum amount of pain
into every workout. not joint pain, of course.

no, i don't think people work out primarily for pleasure. maybe for
the possible pleasure of impressing the opposite sex.

people who are serious about resistance training get pleasure from the
pain. and i enjoy going in and doing a no mental stress workout of
high reps. i don't do that very often, though, 'cause "pumping" won't
make you big and strong.

one of my friends in particular refused to workout. didn't want to
workout until i could tell him he'd be in spectacular shape in three
weeks. some people won't even think about picking up a weight until
they're assured of the desired outcome...which, of course, can never
be assured.

the only thing that's certain about resistance training is that your
musculature will improve if you're training properly.