Question about fat

Hi.

I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
search engine to find my answer.

And I'm not an expert on health.

Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?

Thanks

"ripplesoflife" <ripplesoflife@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi.
>
> I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
> newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
> search engine to find my answer.
>
> And I'm not an expert on health.
>
> Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
> the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
> its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>
> Thanks

What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you trying to
solve?
>

On Apr 6, 2:24 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175839611.070396.38140@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Hi.
>
> > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
> > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
> > search engine to find my answer.
>
> > And I'm not an expert on health.
>
> > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
> > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
> > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>
> > Thanks
>
> What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you trying to
> solve?
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
the word I want) aspects of it.
For example, if what I mentioned in my first message was true, then in
order to lose, let's say 500 g of fat from my body. I would have to
stay active enough to use up 9 cal x 500 g = 4500 calories (hmm...
that's more than a day's needed consumption), and that's after I've
used up all the calories from the meal(s) I had.

But now I just remembered something else. My teacher mentioned this
once, and I don't remember being too clear on it.
Now when the body begins to consume itself for energy, what does it go
for first? The muscle (protein???), or the fat???

On Apr 6, 3:11 am, "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2:24 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1175839611.070396.38140@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > > Hi.
>
> > > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
> > > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
> > > search engine to find my answer.
>
> > > And I'm not an expert on health.
>
> > > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
> > > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
> > > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you trying to
> > solve?
>
> > - Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
> the word I want) aspects of it.
> For example, if what I mentioned in my first message was true, then in
> order to lose, let's say 500 g of fat from my body. I would have to
> stay active enough to use up 9 cal x 500 g = 4500 calories (hmm...
> that's more than a day's needed consumption), and that's after I've
> used up all the calories from the meal(s) I had.
>
> But now I just remembered something else. My teacher mentioned this
> once, and I don't remember being too clear on it.
> Now when the body begins to consume itself for energy, what does it go
> for first? The muscle (protein???), or the fat???- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hmm... According to wikipedia, Catabolysis is the word for the body
breaking itself down for energy, and it begins with the muscle.
Now with that in mind, techncially, how is the fat lost?

Oh, well.

"ripplesoflife" <ripplesoflife@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175844299.609001.163300@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
> On Apr 6, 3:11 am, "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 2:24 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:1175839611.070396.38140@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> > > Hi.
>>
>> > > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
>> > > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
>> > > search engine to find my answer.
>>
>> > > And I'm not an expert on health.
>>
>> > > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
>> > > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
>> > > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>>
>> > > Thanks
>>
>> > What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you
>> > trying to
>> > solve?
>>
>> > - Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
>> the word I want) aspects of it.
>> For example, if what I mentioned in my first message was true, then in
>> order to lose, let's say 500 g of fat from my body. I would have to
>> stay active enough to use up 9 cal x 500 g = 4500 calories (hmm...
>> that's more than a day's needed consumption), and that's after I've
>> used up all the calories from the meal(s) I had.
>>
>> But now I just remembered something else. My teacher mentioned this
>> once, and I don't remember being too clear on it.
>> Now when the body begins to consume itself for energy, what does it go
>> for first? The muscle (protein???), or the fat???- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Hmm... According to wikipedia, Catabolysis is the word for the body
> breaking itself down for energy, and it begins with the muscle.
> Now with that in mind, techncially, how is the fat lost?
>
> Oh, well.

You need a calorie deficit of 3500 to lose a lb - so you would need to know
your maintenance level and reduce around 500 calories per day if you are
going to lose a lb per week. As for what sources your body uses for energy,
it's not an exact science however if you consume adequate protein and work
your muscles you will use a minimum of muscle tiissue for energy.

>

"ripplesoflife" <ripplesoflife@gmail.com> wrote
> "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
>> > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
>> > search engine to find my answer.
>>
>> > And I'm not an expert on health.
>>
>> > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
>> > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
>> > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>>
>> What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you trying
>> to
>> solve?

> I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
> the word I want) aspects of it.

Don't be embarrassed to admit the truth. Even cannibals have fat loss
issues. Try eating only marathon runners and fitness bunnies. Avoid
powerlifters.

David

"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> schreef:

> Don't be embarrassed to admit the truth. Even cannibals have fat loss
> issues. Try eating only marathon runners and fitness bunnies. Avoid
> powerlifters.

Besides, powerlifters dont taste very well, either.

--
Pete

"Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@earthlink.net> schreef:
>
>> Don't be embarrassed to admit the truth. Even cannibals have fat loss
>> issues. Try eating only marathon runners and fitness bunnies. Avoid
>> powerlifters.
>
> Besides, powerlifters dont taste very well, either.

What are you talking about?? Have you ever eaten 'powerlifter'? If it is
prepared well, properly marinated, it tastes as good as dog meat. Even
better.

>
> --
> Pete
>

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:

>>> Don't be embarrassed to admit the truth. Even cannibals have fat loss
>>> issues. Try eating only marathon runners and fitness bunnies. Avoid
>>> powerlifters.

>> Besides, powerlifters dont taste very well, either.

> What are you talking about?? Have you ever eaten 'powerlifter'? If it is
> prepared well, properly marinated, it tastes as good as dog meat. Even
> better.

Sometimes, i phantasize about eating human flesh, espesially womens flesh.

--
Pete

"Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:46163062$0$45481$dbd4b001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>>>> Don't be embarrassed to admit the truth. Even cannibals have fat loss
>>>> issues. Try eating only marathon runners and fitness bunnies. Avoid
>>>> powerlifters.
>
>>> Besides, powerlifters dont taste very well, either.
>
>> What are you talking about?? Have you ever eaten 'powerlifter'? If it is
>> prepared well, properly marinated, it tastes as good as dog meat. Even
>> better.
>
> Sometimes, i phantasize about eating human flesh, espesially womens flesh.
>


Pete, I sincerely hope that it isn't about eating 'dick' that you fantasize
about!

> --
> Pete
>

ripplesoflife wrote:
[...]

> <snip> Catabolysis <snip>

Ah, obviously you're a PubMed man! Well done. Catabolysis to you, too,
good sir!

> Now with that in mind, techncially,

Techncially? Whaa?

> how is the fat lost?

Weeeellllll, "techncially" speaking, fat is lost in a very espencially
and logicncially way, obviouncially. As you well know, PubMed outlines
the specific parameters and whyfores plus wherefores of your, um,
aforementioned query.

I hope this clears things up.

Sincerncially yours,
Curt

P.S. Or you could just not worry about the specifics and simply eat
less and exercise more. Best of luck!

Note: Certain portions of my reply were culled from various Internet
and Intranet Usenet-type as well as forum-bound groups and hitherto
Pop Fitness Web sites. Thank you.

--

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Pete wrote:

> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef:
>
>>>> Don't be embarrassed to admit the truth. Even cannibals have fat loss
>>>> issues. Try eating only marathon runners and fitness bunnies. Avoid
>>>> powerlifters.
>
>>> Besides, powerlifters dont taste very well, either.
>
>> What are you talking about?? Have you ever eaten 'powerlifter'? If it is
>> prepared well, properly marinated, it tastes as good as dog meat. Even
>> better.
>
> Sometimes, i phantasize about eating human flesh, espesially womens flesh.

In attempts to try and stay lean I constantly look for lean cuts of meat
that still taste good (or can be prepared to taste good). That said,
occasionally while at the gym and I get a great pump going I think about
how taste it would be to tear some flesh off of my own body and prepare it
for lunch/dinner. I haven't done it yet and probably won't (seems
counter-productive).

--
Sir Jackery

"Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ripplesoflife wrote:
> [...]
>
>> <snip> Catabolysis <snip>
>
> Ah, obviously you're a PubMed man! Well done. Catabolysis to you, too,
> good sir!
>
>> Now with that in mind, techncially,
>
> Techncially? Whaa?
>
>> how is the fat lost?
>
> Weeeellllll, "techncially" speaking, fat is lost in a very espencially
> and logicncially way, obviouncially. As you well know, PubMed outlines
> the specific parameters and whyfores plus wherefores of your, um,
> aforementioned query.

Curt, I've always asked you to PLEASE not start drinking so early in the
day!

>
> I hope this clears things up.
>
> Sincerncially yours,
> Curt
>
> P.S. Or you could just not worry about the specifics and simply eat
> less and exercise more. Best of luck!
>
> Note: Certain portions of my reply were culled from various Internet
> and Intranet Usenet-type as well as forum-bound groups and hitherto
> Pop Fitness Web sites. Thank you.
>
> --
>

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:56:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"ripplesoflife" <ripplesoflife@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1175844299.609001.163300@l77g2000hsb.googleg roups.com...
>> On Apr 6, 3:11 am, "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 6, 2:24 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >news:1175839611.070396.38140@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> > > Hi.
>>>
>>> > > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
>>> > > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
>>> > > search engine to find my answer.
>>>
>>> > > And I'm not an expert on health.
>>>
>>> > > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
>>> > > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
>>> > > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>>>
>>> > > Thanks
>>>
>>> > What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you
>>> > trying to
>>> > solve?
>>>
>>> > - Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
>>> the word I want) aspects of it.
>>> For example, if what I mentioned in my first message was true, then in
>>> order to lose, let's say 500 g of fat from my body. I would have to
>>> stay active enough to use up 9 cal x 500 g = 4500 calories (hmm...
>>> that's more than a day's needed consumption), and that's after I've
>>> used up all the calories from the meal(s) I had.
>>>
>>> But now I just remembered something else. My teacher mentioned this
>>> once, and I don't remember being too clear on it.
>>> Now when the body begins to consume itself for energy, what does it go
>>> for first? The muscle (protein???), or the fat???- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Hmm... According to wikipedia, Catabolysis is the word for the body
>> breaking itself down for energy, and it begins with the muscle.
>> Now with that in mind, techncially, how is the fat lost?
>>
>> Oh, well.
>
>You need a calorie deficit of 3500 to lose a lb - so you would need to know
>your maintenance level and reduce around 500 calories per day if you are
>going to lose a lb per week. As for what sources your body uses for energy,
>it's not an exact science however if you consume adequate protein and work
>your muscles you will use a minimum of muscle tiissue for energy.

I think it can get a lot more complicated then that. It can depend on
how the calories are cut and for how long. For instance in the early
stages the body is going to go for any other fuel reserves before it
even tries to touch the fat. And much of the early weight loss is
just water. Plus if the diet or exercise isn't done right the body
could just slow down and not burn off any fat.

What you wrote works well for someone on a sustained diet who knows
what they are doing. What's that about 1% of the population.

"Shute" <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:fo6e13hmr9qef3a4rc8ir0d3qts7prar3e@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:56:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"ripplesoflife" <ripplesoflife@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1175844299.609001.163300@l77g2000hsb.google groups.com...
>>> On Apr 6, 3:11 am, "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 6, 2:24 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> >news:1175839611.070396.38140@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> > > Hi.
>>>>
>>>> > > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
>>>> > > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in
>>>> > > a
>>>> > > search engine to find my answer.
>>>>
>>>> > > And I'm not an expert on health.
>>>>
>>>> > > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how
>>>> > > about
>>>> > > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes
>>>> > > for
>>>> > > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>>>>
>>>> > > Thanks
>>>>
>>>> > What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you
>>>> > trying to
>>>> > solve?
>>>>
>>>> > - Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
>>>> the word I want) aspects of it.
>>>> For example, if what I mentioned in my first message was true, then in
>>>> order to lose, let's say 500 g of fat from my body. I would have to
>>>> stay active enough to use up 9 cal x 500 g = 4500 calories (hmm...
>>>> that's more than a day's needed consumption), and that's after I've
>>>> used up all the calories from the meal(s) I had.
>>>>
>>>> But now I just remembered something else. My teacher mentioned this
>>>> once, and I don't remember being too clear on it.
>>>> Now when the body begins to consume itself for energy, what does it go
>>>> for first? The muscle (protein???), or the fat???- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Hmm... According to wikipedia, Catabolysis is the word for the body
>>> breaking itself down for energy, and it begins with the muscle.
>>> Now with that in mind, techncially, how is the fat lost?
>>>
>>> Oh, well.
>>
>>You need a calorie deficit of 3500 to lose a lb - so you would need to
>>know
>>your maintenance level and reduce around 500 calories per day if you are
>>going to lose a lb per week. As for what sources your body uses for
>>energy,
>>it's not an exact science however if you consume adequate protein and work
>>your muscles you will use a minimum of muscle tiissue for energy.
>
> I think it can get a lot more complicated then that. It can depend on
> how the calories are cut and for how long. For instance in the early
> stages the body is going to go for any other fuel reserves before it
> even tries to touch the fat. And much of the early weight loss is
> just water. Plus if the diet or exercise isn't done right the body
> could just slow down and not burn off any fat.
>
> What you wrote works well for someone on a sustained diet who knows
> what they are doing. What's that about 1% of the population.

Ok, you have a point

In article <fo6e13hmr9qef3a4rc8ir0d3qts7prar3e@4ax.com>,
Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:56:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"ripplesoflife" <ripplesoflife@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1175844299.609001.163300@l77g2000hsb.googleg roups.com...
> >> On Apr 6, 3:11 am, "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 6, 2:24 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> >news:1175839611.070396.38140@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>> > > Hi.
> >>>
> >>> > > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
> >>> > > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
> >>> > > search engine to find my answer.
> >>>
> >>> > > And I'm not an expert on health.
> >>>
> >>> > > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
> >>> > > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
> >>> > > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
> >>>
> >>> > > Thanks
> >>>
> >>> > What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you
> >>> > trying to
> >>> > solve?
> >>>
> >>> > - Hide quoted text -
> >>>
> >>> > - Show quoted text -
> >>>
> >>> I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
> >>> the word I want) aspects of it.
> >>> For example, if what I mentioned in my first message was true, then in
> >>> order to lose, let's say 500 g of fat from my body. I would have to
> >>> stay active enough to use up 9 cal x 500 g = 4500 calories (hmm...
> >>> that's more than a day's needed consumption), and that's after I've
> >>> used up all the calories from the meal(s) I had.
> >>>
> >>> But now I just remembered something else. My teacher mentioned this
> >>> once, and I don't remember being too clear on it.
> >>> Now when the body begins to consume itself for energy, what does it go
> >>> for first? The muscle (protein???), or the fat???- Hide quoted text -
> >>>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> Hmm... According to wikipedia, Catabolysis is the word for the body
> >> breaking itself down for energy, and it begins with the muscle.
> >> Now with that in mind, techncially, how is the fat lost?
> >>
> >> Oh, well.
> >
> >You need a calorie deficit of 3500 to lose a lb - so you would need to know
> >your maintenance level and reduce around 500 calories per day if you are
> >going to lose a lb per week. As for what sources your body uses for energy,
> >it's not an exact science however if you consume adequate protein and work
> >your muscles you will use a minimum of muscle tiissue for energy.
>
> I think it can get a lot more complicated then that. It can depend on
> how the calories are cut and for how long. For instance in the early
> stages the body is going to go for any other fuel reserves before it
> even tries to touch the fat. And much of the early weight loss is
> just water. Plus if the diet or exercise isn't done right the body
> could just slow down and not burn off any fat.
>
> What you wrote works well for someone on a sustained diet who knows
> what they are doing. What's that about 1% of the population.

Look up the term "Fat fast".
I was able to sustain it once for 2 weeks. I lost a solid 10 lbs., but
it's a serious bitch to attempt it long term, plus not very healthy.

It's 1,000 calories per day.

I like the psmf diet much better.

My doc' recommended "medifast".
She says that several of her patients that used it lost 1/2 lb. per day
on average, and many lost 50 lbs. in 3 months.

I can't afford the bloody thing (and I HATE protein bars of any kind!)
but I can certainly mimic it using a good protein powder and my own meal
plans...
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:37:34 -0500, Omelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <fo6e13hmr9qef3a4rc8ir0d3qts7prar3e@4ax.com>,
> Shute <Shute@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:56:18 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"ripplesoflife" <ripplesoflife@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1175844299.609001.163300@l77g2000hsb.googleg roups.com...
>> >> On Apr 6, 3:11 am, "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Apr 6, 2:24 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > "ripplesoflife" <ripplesofl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>
>> >>> >news:1175839611.070396.38140@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>>
>> >>> > > Hi.
>> >>>
>> >>> > > I have a question about fat. Now I don't know if this is the right
>> >>> > > newsgroup to ask. And I'm not even sure what words to search for in a
>> >>> > > search engine to find my answer.
>> >>>
>> >>> > > And I'm not an expert on health.
>> >>>
>> >>> > > Ok, now. The fat in food provides 9 calories per gram. Now, how about
>> >>> > > the fat on our body? When food is not plentiful and the body goes for
>> >>> > > its own fat, does that fat also provide 9 calories per gram too?
>> >>>
>> >>> > > Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> > What is your purpose in asking this question. What problem are you
>> >>> > trying to
>> >>> > solve?
>> >>>
>> >>> > - Hide quoted text -
>> >>>
>> >>> > - Show quoted text -
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm just wondering about losing fat. And the technical (think that's
>> >>> the word I want) aspects of it.
>> >>> For example, if what I mentioned in my first message was true, then in
>> >>> order to lose, let's say 500 g of fat from my body. I would have to
>> >>> stay active enough to use up 9 cal x 500 g = 4500 calories (hmm...
>> >>> that's more than a day's needed consumption), and that's after I've
>> >>> used up all the calories from the meal(s) I had.
>> >>>
>> >>> But now I just remembered something else. My teacher mentioned this
>> >>> once, and I don't remember being too clear on it.
>> >>> Now when the body begins to consume itself for energy, what does it go
>> >>> for first? The muscle (protein???), or the fat???- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>
>> >>> - Show quoted text -
>> >>
>> >> Hmm... According to wikipedia, Catabolysis is the word for the body
>> >> breaking itself down for energy, and it begins with the muscle.
>> >> Now with that in mind, techncially, how is the fat lost?
>> >>
>> >> Oh, well.
>> >
>> >You need a calorie deficit of 3500 to lose a lb - so you would need to know
>> >your maintenance level and reduce around 500 calories per day if you are
>> >going to lose a lb per week. As for what sources your body uses for energy,
>> >it's not an exact science however if you consume adequate protein and work
>> >your muscles you will use a minimum of muscle tiissue for energy.
>>
>> I think it can get a lot more complicated then that. It can depend on
>> how the calories are cut and for how long. For instance in the early
>> stages the body is going to go for any other fuel reserves before it
>> even tries to touch the fat. And much of the early weight loss is
>> just water. Plus if the diet or exercise isn't done right the body
>> could just slow down and not burn off any fat.
>>
>> What you wrote works well for someone on a sustained diet who knows
>> what they are doing. What's that about 1% of the population.
>
>Look up the term "Fat fast".
>I was able to sustain it once for 2 weeks. I lost a solid 10 lbs., but
>it's a serious bitch to attempt it long term, plus not very healthy.
>
>It's 1,000 calories per day.
>
>I like the psmf diet much better.
>
>My doc' recommended "medifast".
>She says that several of her patients that used it lost 1/2 lb. per day
>on average, and many lost 50 lbs. in 3 months.
>
>I can't afford the bloody thing (and I HATE protein bars of any kind!)
>but I can certainly mimic it using a good protein powder and my own meal
>plans...

None of the crash diets have proven effective long term. They really
are not much good unless you have 30+ pounds to lose and want
something to jumpstart your diet. Or if you throw in a few cheat days
to help with nutrition. I have a feeling eating all fat would make me
sick.

My father knows someone on that diet plan where they give you the
meals to eat. I guess the guy was so heavy his doctor gave him only a
year to live. He is eating a 1000 calories a day and trying to
adjust.

I just started a low carb one myself last week. I will see how it
goes. This one subtracts fiber from the carb total for a net carb.
They also don't count most vegetables and recommend leaner meats. The
goal is high fiber, low carb, and high protein. So it is mostly the
same as many other diets out there. I lost three pounds so far but I
suspect some of that is water weight. I only need to lose 10-15
pounds total and I don't really care how long it takes.