Question for personal trainers of senior citizens

I am enrolled in a personal training program at my local college as
part of a career change and have decided to focus on training seniors.
My motivation is my father dying of a heart attack at age 39. I am 55
and in good health (so far). I think i could relate to seniors because
i have similiar aches and pains they experience. Plus i have the
patience and compassion i feel is needed.For those of you who train
seniors, what do you find the most rewarding aspect of your training?
What organizations did you receive your schooling? Do you make a
decent living at what you do? For me the money is secondary to the
pleasure of working with seniors, but i do want to make sure it is
sustainable. Regards,Bob.

<shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am enrolled in a personal training program at my local college as
> part of a career change and have decided to focus on training seniors.
> My motivation is my father dying of a heart attack at age 39. I am 55
> and in good health (so far). I think i could relate to seniors because
> i have similiar aches and pains they experience. Plus i have the
> patience and compassion i feel is needed.For those of you who train
> seniors, what do you find the most rewarding aspect of your training?
> What organizations did you receive your schooling? Do you make a
> decent living at what you do? For me the money is secondary to the
> pleasure of working with seniors, but i do want to make sure it is
> sustainable. Regards,Bob.

Can you get those annoying old people at Costco to move a little faster, or
at least pull over to the side so I can pay for my sockeye salmon?

On Jul 24, 11:14 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am enrolled in a personal training program at my local college as
> part of a career change and have decided to focus on training seniors.
> My motivation is my father dying of a heart attack at age 39. I am 55
> and in good health (so far). I think i could relate to seniors because
> i have similiar aches and pains they experience. Plus i have the
> patience and compassion i feel is needed.For those of you who train
> seniors, what do you find the most rewarding aspect of your training?
> What organizations did you receive your schooling? Do you make a
> decent living at what you do? For me the money is secondary to the
> pleasure of working with seniors, but i do want to make sure it is
> sustainable. Regards,Bob.



What do you mean by "sustainable"?? There will always be seniors
around -- it's a growth industry, man!

As I begin heading into middle-age myself, I'm going to be looking
into senior issues WRT weight training and physical fitness...I've
already found UC Berkeley's Wellness Letter, and there're some books
on yoga and weight training for 50+ folks...I'm almost looking forward
to old age!

On Jul 24, 11:21 pm, "ATP*" <waxwingsl...@azurepane.com> wrote:
>
>
> Can you get those annoying old people at Costco to move a little faster, or
> at least pull over to the side so I can pay for my sockeye salmon?


Heeheehee...I must say, I hope I never get to the point where I'm like
these oldies who can barely move...they usually horrify me more than
aggravate me...good God, what a fate!

Prisoner at War wrote:

> I hope I never get to the point where I'm like
> these oldies who can barely move...they usually
> horrify me more than aggravate me...good God,
> what a fate!

I remember being at the local fair the one year. Funnel cakes, candy
apples, nickel pitch, french fries, rides, etc. Lots of cables running
across the streets powering those deep friers and more.

Saw an elderly couple doing the Tim Conway shuffle down the street
until they got to a particularly thick cable. Maybe an inch tall. It
was a struggle for them to clear that cable. Incredibly sad to be so
weak.

--
Curt

On Jul 25, 10:14 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 24, 11:14 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
>
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I am enrolled in a personal training program at my local college as
> > part of a career change and have decided to focus on training seniors.
> > My motivation is my father dying of a heart attack at age 39. I am 55
> > and in good health (so far). I think i could relate to seniors because
> > i have similiar aches and pains they experience. Plus i have the
> > patience and compassion i feel is needed.For those of you who train
> > seniors, what do you find the most rewarding aspect of your training?
> > What organizations did you receive your schooling? Do you make a
> > decent living at what you do? For me the money is secondary to the
> > pleasure of working with seniors, but i do want to make sure it is
> > sustainable. Regards,Bob.
>
> What do you mean by "sustainable"?? There will always be seniors
> around -- it's a growth industry, man!
>
> As I begin heading into middle-age myself, I'm going to be looking
> into senior issues WRT weight training and physical fitness...I've
> already found UC Berkeley's Wellness Letter, and there're some books
> on yoga and weight training for 50+ folks...I'm almost looking forward
> to old age!

Yeah. I've read the Berkeley newsletters. There's some pretty good
articles in there. You're right. It is a growth industry, especially
with all the baby boomers geting close to retirement. I love working
out since i decided to make it part of my life, not something to do in
my spare time. Anyway, my wife is all excited now with my new energy
level!

On Jul 25, 10:57 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah. I've read the Berkeley newsletters. There's some pretty good
> articles in there.

Great stuff -- the "Consumer Reports" of general health and well-
being.

I only wish I could find something like that, only with a focus on
strength and endurance sports.

> You're right. It is a growth industry, especially
> with all the baby boomers geting close to retirement.

Isn't that something??? I hope they are not like the cranky baby
boomers we have on MFW.

> I love working
> out since i decided to make it part of my life, not something to do in
> my spare time.

I want to check out Jack LaLane and Larry Scott and people like that,
and see what they're doing in their old age, exactly. For example,
Ironman mag had a little article on how Bentacourt, I think it was,
uses light weights but heavy reps 'cause of age...Muscle Mag Int'l, I
think it is, also had an article on how somebody -- Lee Priest? -- has
been modifying his routine due to increased age: again, lighter
weights, more reps.

> Anyway, my wife is all excited now with my new energy
> level!

It'll be great when she decides to join you in the health and fitness
lifestyle!

On Jul 25, 1:33 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I remember being at the local fair the one year. Funnel cakes, candy
> apples, nickel pitch, french fries, rides, etc. Lots of cables running
> across the streets powering those deep friers and more.
>
> Saw an elderly couple doing the Tim Conway shuffle down the street
> until they got to a particularly thick cable. Maybe an inch tall. It
> was a struggle for them to clear that cable. Incredibly sad to be so
> weak.

It's absolutely frightening! I hope they don't discover some problem
with high-intensity weight training the way they've now discovered
that with high-impact aerobics!

What a horror...but so far it seems that it's mostly fat-asses who are
condemned to wheelchairs...in the city, they on the bus just to go a
block (one stop), even though they usually have electric motor
wheelchairs and scooters!! It's horrifying, to imagine oneself
entombed before one's time in an embrace of fat and useless muscles!

I never used to think about old age but now at 35 with a bad back and
still recovering from a biceps injury for the first time in my life,
I'm actually scared! God, as if wrinkles weren't bad
enough...crazy...how do you have sex when you're so old and gross-
looking??? I'll definitely have to do them sex vacations
overseas...oh God, hopefully I won't care about sex by then, I
guess...yuck, old age is so disgusting, just decaying away in front of
your own eyes like spoiling fruit, like some special effect from a
'50s horror flick....

Ugh -- I guess I could never be a trainer to old folks...would creep
me the hell out, staring at the very face of death while pumping
iron! Oh God, let's get off this subject....

> --
> Curt

On Jul 26, 7:35 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 10:57 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
>
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah. I've read the Berkeley newsletters. There's some pretty good
> > articles in there.
>
> Great stuff -- the "Consumer Reports" of general health and well-
> being.
>
> I only wish I could find something like that, only with a focus on
> strength and endurance sports.
>
> > You're right. It is a growth industry, especially
> > with all the baby boomers geting close to retirement.
>
> Isn't that something??? I hope they are not like the cranky baby
> boomers we have on MFW.
>
> > I love working
> > out since i decided to make it part of my life, not something to do in
> > my spare time.
>
> I want to check out Jack LaLane and Larry Scott and people like that,
> and see what they're doing in their old age, exactly. For example,
> Ironman mag had a little article on how Bentacourt, I think it was,
> uses light weights but heavy reps 'cause of age...Muscle Mag Int'l, I
> think it is, also had an article on how somebody -- Lee Priest? -- has
> been modifying his routine due to increased age: again, lighter
> weights, more reps.
>
> > Anyway, my wife is all excited now with my new energy
> > level!
>
> It'll be great when she decides to join you in the health and fitness
> lifestyle!

I'm trying to get her to the gym, but she's fighting it. I think she
is depressed from losing four family members within two years.The only
exercise she agrees to is walking the dogs. She has type 2 diabetes,
which is all the more reason for her to get off her ass and work out.

On Jul 26, 7:51 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 1:33 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I remember being at the local fair the one year. Funnel cakes, candy
> > apples, nickel pitch, french fries, rides, etc. Lots of cables running
> > across the streets powering those deep friers and more.
>
> > Saw an elderly couple doing the Tim Conway shuffle down the street
> > until they got to a particularly thick cable. Maybe an inch tall. It
> > was a struggle for them to clear that cable. Incredibly sad to be so
> > weak.
>
> It's absolutely frightening! I hope they don't discover some problem
> with high-intensity weight training the way they've now discovered
> that with high-impact aerobics!
>
> What a horror...but so far it seems that it's mostly fat-asses who are
> condemned to wheelchairs...in the city, they on the bus just to go a
> block (one stop), even though they usually have electric motor
> wheelchairs and scooters!! It's horrifying, to imagine oneself
> entombed before one's time in an embrace of fat and useless muscles!
>
> I never used to think about old age but now at 35 with a bad back and
> still recovering from a biceps injury for the first time in my life,
> I'm actually scared! God, as if wrinkles weren't bad
> enough...crazy...how do you have sex when you're so old and gross-
> looking??? I'll definitely have to do them sex vacations
> overseas...oh God, hopefully I won't care about sex by then, I
> guess...yuck, old age is so disgusting, just decaying away in front of
> your own eyes like spoiling fruit, like some special effect from a
> '50s horror flick....
>
> Ugh -- I guess I could never be a trainer to old folks...would creep
> me the hell out, staring at the very face of death while pumping
> iron! Oh God, let's get off this subject....
>
>
>
> > --
> > Curt- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

35? You're so young!! C,mon bro. Be positive! Sounds like you're
scared of aging. You say you'll never be a trainer to old folks. You
say that now, but perhaps when you reach my age, you might think
differently. To me it's great to see seniors working out instead of
being idle.

On Jul 26, 11:21 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 35? You're so young!! C,mon bro. Be positive! Sounds like you're
> scared of aging. You say you'll never be a trainer to old folks. You
> say that now, but perhaps when you reach my age, you might think
> differently. To me it's great to see seniors working out instead of
> being idle.



Yes, you're right, it's inspiring to see the few who are athletes
still -- there's an old guy that benches 365 in my gym, and he looks
like Santa Claus!!

But the vast majority of them, even in the gym, are so frail-
looking...they move slowly, don't look like they're anywhere near
breaking a sweat -- or breathing, for that matter! -- and then there
are the ones in the street that you always have to be careful not to
bump into while trying to maneuver past them on your way to catching
that bus or train or making that light!

I never thought about any of this until my back just gave out...it's
been three years now since that and I've recovered enough to be doing
proper barbell deadlifts with 225-lbs., but I can't run as fast as I
used to on account of that bad back, and all this has gotten me
fearful of old age...I mean, training injuries are one thing, but
losing strength and agility no matter what you do or don't do is
basically decay and a very slow dying!

Anyway, just musing here...I'm usually very positive, but old age is
just a very sobering thought.

So tell me, are you a certified personal trainer? Did you do that,
what, ACSM certification or that other one, the National Something or
Other? I was thinking about it too -- even weight equipment sales
people at the Sports Authority ask me for advice! -- but it looks a
lot of money for tests and test materials, and then the work looks
like a freelance kinda situation, usually part time, and pretty much
almost like sales.

I dunno...I might still try it...but who is my target market? You,
you've figured on seniors, current and future ones, and that's
brilliant, really, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with baby
boomers...I mean, all my bosses are baby boomers, and they suck! =)
It seems like personal trainers have to cater to the unmotivated and
naturally non-athletic...who else would pay money for one? Athletes
(except for elite pros) are pretty much self-starters.

On Jul 26, 11:25 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm trying to get her to the gym, but she's fighting it. I think she
> is depressed from losing four family members within two years.The only
> exercise she agrees to is walking the dogs. She has type 2 diabetes,
> which is all the more reason for her to get off her ass and work out.


Ah! Well, I guess you can practice your patience and understanding
with her, and improve it thereby for your would-be senior citizen
clients!

In my experience, females don't usually like to work out, and of those
that do, they think it's a light jog on the treadmill and some dancing
classes. I guess as females they just don't have that same innate
desire to push and perhaps expand one's boundaries.

Good luck with wifey. I imagine she'll be inspired by your example
one day soon enough!

On Jul 26, 11:13 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 26, 11:21 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
>
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 35? You're so young!! C,mon bro. Be positive! Sounds like you're
> > scared of aging. You say you'll never be a trainer to old folks. You
> > say that now, but perhaps when you reach my age, you might think
> > differently. To me it's great to see seniors working out instead of
> > being idle.
>
> Yes, you're right, it's inspiring to see the few who are athletes
> still -- there's an old guy that benches 365 in my gym, and he looks
> like Santa Claus!!
>
> But the vast majority of them, even in the gym, are so frail-
> looking...they move slowly, don't look like they're anywhere near
> breaking a sweat -- or breathing, for that matter! -- and then there
> are the ones in the street that you always have to be careful not to
> bump into while trying to maneuver past them on your way to catching
> that bus or train or making that light!
>
> I never thought about any of this until my back just gave out...it's
> been three years now since that and I've recovered enough to be doing
> proper barbell deadlifts with 225-lbs., but I can't run as fast as I
> used to on account of that bad back, and all this has gotten me
> fearful of old age...I mean, training injuries are one thing, but
> losing strength and agility no matter what you do or don't do is
> basically decay and a very slow dying!
>
> Anyway, just musing here...I'm usually very positive, but old age is
> just a very sobering thought.
>
> So tell me, are you a certified personal trainer? Did you do that,
> what, ACSM certification or that other one, the National Something or
> Other? I was thinking about it too -- even weight equipment sales
> people at the Sports Authority ask me for advice! -- but it looks a
> lot of money for tests and test materials, and then the work looks
> like a freelance kinda situation, usually part time, and pretty much
> almost like sales.
>
> I dunno...I might still try it...but who is my target market? You,
> you've figured on seniors, current and future ones, and that's
> brilliant, really, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with baby
> boomers...I mean, all my bosses are baby boomers, and they suck! =)
> It seems like personal trainers have to cater to the unmotivated and
> naturally non-athletic...who else would pay money for one? Athletes
> (except for elite pros) are pretty much self-starters.

Actually, i'm going through a career change to the fitness field. My
goal is to be a trainer. The program at school is about two years. At
first i thought my age would be a drawback, but with what i want to
do, it isn't. You should go for it. I'm sure there's a school nearby
your home that has a similiar program.

On Jul 26, 3:10 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Actually, i'm going through a career change to the fitness field. My
> goal is to be a trainer. The program at school is about two years. At
> first i thought my age would be a drawback, but with what i want to
> do, it isn't. You should go for it. I'm sure there's a school nearby
> your home that has a similiar program.


Thanks for the encouragement; I will! It's very interesting, and all
the more so now that I see middle-age on the horizon.

I understand that the ACSM certification is the most widely recognized
in a field that still isn't all that well organized yet. American Red
Blood CPR certification would look great, too. What's your program
called, exactly? What will your degree or certificate say? How long
is the course of study?

Going through ACSM, it looks like almost a thousand dollars for exams
and materials!

On Jul 26, 12:14 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 26, 3:10 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
>
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, i'm going through a career change to the fitness field. My
> > goal is to be a trainer. The program at school is about two years. At
> > first i thought my age would be a drawback, but with what i want to
> > do, it isn't. You should go for it. I'm sure there's a school nearby
> > your home that has a similiar program.
>
> Thanks for the encouragement; I will! It's very interesting, and all
> the more so now that I see middle-age on the horizon.
>
> I understand that the ACSM certification is the most widely recognized
> in a field that still isn't all that well organized yet. American Red
> Blood CPR certification would look great, too. What's your program
> called, exactly? What will your degree or certificate say? How long
> is the course of study?
>
> Going through ACSM, it looks like almost a thousand dollars for exams
> and materials!

I forgot to say the program at my school is a personal training/
fitness instuctor certificate. If you want, you could go to mtsac.edu
which is my college website and do a search for classes jus tto see
what type of classes are offered. A school near you would most likely
have the same classes. The CPR and First Aid class is required for
some fitness certifications and i think it's one of the requirements
for working in a gym. Regards.

On Jul 26, 12:14 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 26, 3:10 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
>
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, i'm going through a career change to the fitness field. My
> > goal is to be a trainer. The program at school is about two years. At
> > first i thought my age would be a drawback, but with what i want to
> > do, it isn't. You should go for it. I'm sure there's a school nearby
> > your home that has a similiar program.
>
> Thanks for the encouragement; I will! It's very interesting, and all
> the more so now that I see middle-age on the horizon.
>
> I understand that the ACSM certification is the most widely recognized
> in a field that still isn't all that well organized yet. American Red
> Blood CPR certification would look great, too. What's your program
> called, exactly? What will your degree or certificate say? How long
> is the course of study?
>
> Going through ACSM, it looks like almost a thousand dollars for exams
> and materials!

ACSM is highly regarded. I think i heard somewhere they now have
certification for people without a degree., but still have
certification for ones with degrees. I don't know what the cost is.
You could probably find out on their website. I think the best way to
go is through your local junior college. That way you can get credit
for the classes at the same time.

Prisoner at War wrote:
[...]

> God, as if wrinkles weren't bad enough...crazy...

That's why you need OILY skin. No wrinkles. I've still got that same
skin I had as a teenager.

Uh, unfortunately that means oily and pimply.

SON OF A...

> how do you have sex when you're so old and gross-
> looking???

Funny you should ask that question as there was an article in today's
local paper about an 82-year-old who had been diagnosed with HIV. So,
yeah, I'm suspecting that the libido does not disappear with age
necessarily. Otoh, maybe it was some 82-year-old IV drug user?

The article quoted a woman in her 80's reacting to the safe sex
lectures, something like, "You're giving out condoms, but who's gonna
give us a guy?"

HA!

God bless her.

> I'll definitely have to do them sex vacations
> overseas...oh God, hopefully I won't care about sex by then, I
> guess...yuck, old age is so disgusting, just decaying away in front of
> your own eyes like spoiling fruit, like some special effect from a
> '50s horror flick....

That's only if it was time-lapse and not such a relatively sloooooow
process.

I imagine if I woke up looking like I do now, only, say, twenty or
thirty years ago that I'd go into shock. Bald, gray beard, at LEAST
ten extra pounds of fat, and the aches and pains associated with
"that" >< close to 45. Newp. Definitely need significant time to deal
with those changes. Thankfully, aging is not an overnight production.
Otoh there's progeria?

(Googles)

Ha! I even speeled it rite!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progeria

> Ugh -- I guess I could never be a trainer to old folks...would creep
> me the hell out, staring at the very face of death while pumping
> iron! Oh God, let's get off this subject....

Hmmm.

You, sir, could be a case subject for some psychologist somewhere. A
guess!

Knowing you, the PhD would be a 40-year-old Latina and you'd be
hitting on her 20-year-old daughters.

--
Curt

shareyourknowle...@hotmail wrote:
[...]

> I forgot to say the program at my school is a personal training/
> fitness instuctor certificate. If you want, you could go to mtsac.edu
> which is my college website and do a search for classes jus tto see
> what type of classes are offered. A school near you would most likely
> have the same classes. The CPR and First Aid class is required for
> some fitness certifications and i think it's one of the requirements
> for working in a gym. Regards.

This entire post looks suspiciously fitness-oriented.

--

shareyourknowle...@hotmail wrote:

re Prisoner at War

> 35? You're so young!! C,mon bro. Be positive! Sounds like you're
> scared of aging. You say you'll never be a trainer to old folks. You
> say that now, but perhaps when you reach my age, you might think
> differently. To me it's great to see seniors working out instead of
> being idle.

True dat.

I'll be 45. Have friends in their 60's and they're not ready to pull
the coffin lid shut. PaW will change his tune in ten or twenty
years. ;o)

--

On Jul 26, 9:38 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> shareyourknowle...@hotmail wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I forgot to say the program at my school is a personal training/
> > fitness instuctor certificate. If you want, you could go to mtsac.edu
> > which is my college website and do a search for classes jus tto see
> > what type of classes are offered. A school near you would most likely
> > have the same classes. The CPR and First Aid class is required for
> > some fitness certifications and i think it's one of the requirements
> > for working in a gym. Regards.
>
> This entire post looks suspiciously fitness-oriented.
>
> --

Yeah man, it is suspiciously fitness oriented. DIG IT!!

On Jul 26, 7:45 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I forgot to say the program at my school is a personal training/
> fitness instuctor certificate. If you want, you could go to mtsac.edu
> which is my college website and do a search for classes jus tto see
> what type of classes are offered. A school near you would most likely
> have the same classes. The CPR and First Aid class is required for
> some fitness certifications and i think it's one of the requirements
> for working in a gym. Regards.


Thanks for the refs! Best wishes for your career -- and getting wifey
to jog and lift with you!

On Jul 26, 11:13 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 26, 11:21 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
>
> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 35? You're so young!! C,mon bro. Be positive! Sounds like you're
> > scared of aging. You say you'll never be a trainer to old folks. You
> > say that now, but perhaps when you reach my age, you might think
> > differently. To me it's great to see seniors working out instead of
> > being idle.
>
> Yes, you're right, it's inspiring to see the few who are athletes
> still -- there's an old guy that benches 365 in my gym, and he looks
> like Santa Claus!!
>
> But the vast majority of them, even in the gym, are so frail-
> looking...they move slowly, don't look like they're anywhere near
> breaking a sweat -- or breathing, for that matter! -- and then there
> are the ones in the street that you always have to be careful not to
> bump into while trying to maneuver past them on your way to catching
> that bus or train or making that light!
>
> I never thought about any of this until my back just gave out...it's
> been three years now since that and I've recovered enough to be doing
> proper barbell deadlifts with 225-lbs., but I can't run as fast as I
> used to on account of that bad back, and all this has gotten me
> fearful of old age...I mean, training injuries are one thing, but
> losing strength and agility no matter what you do or don't do is
> basically decay and a very slow dying!
>
> Anyway, just musing here...I'm usually very positive, but old age is
> just a very sobering thought.
>
> So tell me, are you a certified personal trainer? Did you do that,
> what, ACSM certification or that other one, the National Something or
> Other? I was thinking about it too -- even weight equipment sales
> people at the Sports Authority ask me for advice! -- but it looks a
> lot of money for tests and test materials, and then the work looks
> like a freelance kinda situation, usually part time, and pretty much
> almost like sales.
>
> I dunno...I might still try it...but who is my target market? You,
> you've figured on seniors, current and future ones, and that's
> brilliant, really, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with baby
> boomers...I mean, all my bosses are baby boomers, and they suck! =)
> It seems like personal trainers have to cater to the unmotivated and
> naturally non-athletic...who else would pay money for one? Athletes
> (except for elite pros) are pretty much self-starters.

Some of the seniors may look frail, but at least they made it to the
gym ! Gotta give 'em credit for that. Besides, i've seen some frail
seniors working out that actually amazed me with their energy level.
Look, i'm a senior and have been active all my life- played in lots of
fast and slow pitch leagues, had a chance to play semi-pro ball,
played in basketball leagues . I hope to keep up this level 30 years
from now, if i'm still around! Anyway, just keep active to avoid the
Tim Conway shuffle when you're older.

On Jul 27, 12:33 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> That's why you need OILY skin. No wrinkles. I've still got that same
> skin I had as a teenager.
>
> Uh, unfortunately that means oily and pimply.
>
> SON OF A...

Or be Asian. You know how Orientals all have that nice youthful
skin! Thank God. =)

> Funny you should ask that question as there was an article in today's
> local paper about an 82-year-old who had been diagnosed with HIV.

Maybe it was a blood transfusion...? Heck, how did HIV get from chimp
to man in the first place...!

> So,
> yeah, I'm suspecting that the libido does not disappear with age
> necessarily. Otoh, maybe it was some 82-year-old IV drug user?

One can only hope....

> The article quoted a woman in her 80's reacting to the safe sex
> lectures, something like, "You're giving out condoms, but who's gonna
> give us a guy?"
>
> HA!
>
> God bless her.

LOL

"Age" is also on my mind now because the girls are starting to guess
my age much more accurately! Just last year they had me pegged at
~25, but now they're guessing I'm 30!!! I was just out last night
with one of the local hotties, the kind all the guys in the
neighborhood watch grow up and blossom (it was funny when she
complained about that, given the way she dresses), and she had me at
30 years old! I can't imagine what's giving it away...maybe I ought
to stop talking about life with them so much...!

> That's only if it was time-lapse and not such a relatively sloooooow
> process.

Well, it ain't slow enough! Holy cow, but last night the local hottie
just had me shocked (though my weight-training helped me not give it
away -- you know, like how when the weight threatens to suddenly
overwhelm you but instead of panicking your training kicks in and
you're on auto-pilot mode and then throw it right up).

I'd never been pegged so close to my age before: never! When I was 33
another girl had me down as 22! So, in addition to my bad back, etc.,
I've now got this sign of the times!

But I'm going to be her workout buddy...we're jogging
Wednesday...let's see what happens! But, heck, it looks like I ought
to start looking into settling down while I still can, before the
window of opportunity passes and the world -- not to mention usenet
and MFW -- will be deprived of muscled nerds and dweebs!

> I imagine if I woke up looking like I do now, only, say, twenty or
> thirty years ago that I'd go into shock. Bald, gray beard, at LEAST
> ten extra pounds of fat, and the aches and pains associated with
> "that" >< close to 45. Newp. Definitely need significant time to deal
> with those changes. Thankfully, aging is not an overnight production.

I'm fascinated that the Dalai Lama, though, is, what, sixty, sixty-
something years old and looks forty-ish!! It's one reason why I'm
also fascinated with the idea of going vegan or lacto-ovo-vegan.

> Otoh there's progeria?
>
> (Googles)
>
> Ha! I even speeled it rite!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progeria

Yeah, the Picture of Dorian Grey!!

> Hmmm.
>
> You, sir, could be a case subject for some psychologist somewhere. A
> guess!

Well, it's just my associative memory at work...that's what makes me
creative...but it does tend to be messy sometimes!

> Knowing you, the PhD would be a 40-year-old Latina and you'd be
> hitting on her 20-year-old daughters.

Latinas are just amazing. I don't care for the culture, which is too
crazy for me, but all that interracial cross-breeding has produced
some amazing specimens of the female half of humanity. Wow. Just
amazing.

> --
> Curt