question for you

im trying to bulk up and ive been doing it for 6 weeks my question is.
*full body workouts*
is this right for me or should i concentrate on specific muscles on
specific days
i attend the gym 3 times a week & im currently doing a few sets on each
muscle which takes
between 60-90 minutes




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WEZ

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, WEZ wrote:

> im trying to bulk up and ive been doing it for 6 weeks my question is.
> *full body workouts* is this right for me or should i concentrate on
> specific muscles on specific days i attend the gym 3 times a week

If you're going three times a week, and you're a relative beginner, i
would say yes, full-body. A two-way split would mean working each muscle
group 1.5 times per week, which is not really enough.

If you could go four times a week, a two-way split could work. I still
think whole-body workouts three days a week would be marginally better,
though, but you might prefer the split four-day routine because it keeps
workouts shorter.

> & im currently doing a few sets on each muscle which takes between 60-90
> minutes

Sounds good. What exercises do you do?

tom

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Tom Anderson Wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, WEZ wrote:
> -
> im trying to bulk up and ive been doing it for 6 weeks my question is.
>
> *full body workouts* is this right for me or should i concentrate on
> specific muscles on specific days i attend the gym 3 times a week-
>
> If you're going three times a week, and you're a relative beginner, i
> would say yes, full-body. A two-way split would mean working each
> muscle
> group 1.5 times per week, which is not really enough.
>
> If you could go four times a week, a two-way split could work. I still
>
> think whole-body workouts three days a week would be marginally better,
>
> though, but you might prefer the split four-day routine because it
> keeps
> workouts shorter.
> -
> & im currently doing a few sets on each muscle which takes between
> 60-90
> minutes-
>
> Sounds good. What exercises do you do?
>
> tom
>
> --
> Pave the world

i do three sets of ten of each

bench press
hammer curl
bicep curl.............these are the only free weights i use

the rest are machine based for working shoulders' triceps chest and
legs
i go to la fitness




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WEZ

Dnia 2007-03-28 WEZ napisa³(a):
>
> Tom Anderson Wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, WEZ wrote:
>> -
>> im trying to bulk up and ive been doing it for 6 weeks my question is.
>>
>> *full body workouts* is this right for me or should i concentrate on
>> specific muscles on specific days i attend the gym 3 times a week-
>>
>> If you're going three times a week, and you're a relative beginner, i
>> would say yes, full-body. A two-way split would mean working each
>> muscle
>> group 1.5 times per week, which is not really enough.
>>
>> If you could go four times a week, a two-way split could work. I still
>>
>> think whole-body workouts three days a week would be marginally better,
>>
>> though, but you might prefer the split four-day routine because it
>> keeps
>> workouts shorter.
>> -
>> & im currently doing a few sets on each muscle which takes between
>> 60-90
>> minutes-
>>
>> Sounds good. What exercises do you do?
>>
>> tom
>>
>> --
>> Pave the world
>
> i do three sets of ten of each
>
> bench press
> hammer curl
> bicep curl.............these are the only free weights i use
>
> the rest are machine based for working shoulders' triceps chest and
> legs

You do no back exercises. You need them to balance muscular
development around a shoulder joint. Shoulder joint is like a golf
ball on a T-piece balanced by a set of strings pulling it down. If you
make strings on one side of the piece stronger, the ball becomes
unstable, and it hurts. It hurts literally, and it hurts your looks.
Divide you upper body compound moves into horizontal pushes and pulls
(like bench and row) and vertical pushes and pulls (like shoulder press
and pulldown) and equalize the number of sets you do for every move.
Like, if you do 3 sets of bench press, you should do 3 sets of rows.
If you do 3 sets of shoulder presses, you should do 3 sets of pulldowns.

Your arms will get reasonable amount of workout by simply doing this
compound moves, but if you like to train them more, add one exercise
for biceps and one for triceps (you don't need any more; really).

> i go to la fitness

Keep going and best luck.

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Andrzej Rosa 1127R

On Mar 28, 4:55 am, WEZ <WEZ.2o5...@news.fitnessbanter.com> wrote:
> i do three sets of ten of each
>
> bench press
> hammer curl1
> bicep curl.............these are the only free weights i use
>
> the rest are machine based for working shoulders' triceps chest and
> legs
> i go to la fitness
>
> --
> WEZ

You won't bulk much with this training regime chemically unassisted.

Google for "madcow 5x5". Eat a lot.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> Dnia 2007-03-28 WEZ napisa?(a):
>>
>> Tom Anderson Wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, WEZ wrote:
>>>
>>>> & im currently doing a few sets on each muscle which takes between
>>>> 60-90 minutes
>>>
>>> Sounds good. What exercises do you do?
>>
>> i do three sets of ten of each
>>
>> bench press
>> hammer curl
>> bicep curl.............these are the only free weights i use
>>
>> the rest are machine based for working shoulders' triceps chest and
>> legs
>
> You do no back exercises. You need them to balance muscular development
> around a shoulder joint. Shoulder joint is like a golf ball on a
> T-piece balanced by a set of strings pulling it down. If you make
> strings on one side of the piece stronger, the ball becomes unstable,
> and it hurts. It hurts literally, and it hurts your looks. Divide you
> upper body compound moves into horizontal pushes and pulls (like bench
> and row) and vertical pushes and pulls (like shoulder press and
> pulldown) and equalize the number of sets you do for every move. Like,
> if you do 3 sets of bench press, you should do 3 sets of rows. If you do
> 3 sets of shoulder presses, you should do 3 sets of pulldowns.

What Andrzej said.

> Your arms will get reasonable amount of workout by simply doing this
> compound moves, but if you like to train them more, add one exercise for
> biceps and one for triceps

In my limited experience, there is certainly a benefit to training the
arms directly - maybe i'm crap, or maybe i just have a really strong or
weak back or something, but adding curls to a routine which had rows and
two types of pulldowns has made a rapid and noticeable difference to my
arms. They feel a lot more like they've been worked, and there's a
definite (but small so far!) increase in size. Also, i had to be really
strict about my form to get that result - i was doing curls for a while,
but cheating them, really, and getting nothing from it. Making a conscious
effort to keep my upper arms fixed while i curl made a huge difference.

Whether this is useful for overall strength, i don't know.

> (you don't need any more; really).

True.

tom

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Rapid oxidation is the new black. -- some Mike

Dnia 2007-03-28 Tom Anderson napisa³(a):
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>
>> Your arms will get reasonable amount of workout by simply doing this
>> compound moves, but if you like to train them more, add one exercise for
>> biceps and one for triceps
>
> In my limited experience, there is certainly a benefit to training the
> arms directly

Of course there is a benefit. I never wrote that one should avoid it.
You may leave your arms alone, and depending which kind of exercises
you do, what your leverages and form looks like, you may have pretty
good growth in them without training them directly, but if you add a
bit of direct work, they will probably grow faster.

> - maybe i'm crap, or maybe i just have a really strong or
> weak back or something, but adding curls to a routine which had rows and
> two types of pulldowns has made a rapid and noticeable difference to my
> arms. They feel a lot more like they've been worked, and there's a
> definite (but small so far!) increase in size. Also, i had to be really
> strict about my form to get that result - i was doing curls for a while,
> but cheating them, really, and getting nothing from it. Making a conscious
> effort to keep my upper arms fixed while i curl made a huge difference.
>
> Whether this is useful for overall strength, i don't know.
>
>> (you don't need any more; really).
>
> True.

That was my point. Several sets of one exercise for bis and one for
tris in addition to some compound should be absolutely enough.

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Andrzej Rosa 1127R

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:

> Dnia 2007-03-28 Tom Anderson napisa?(a):
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>>
>>> Your arms will get reasonable amount of workout by simply doing this
>>> compound moves, but if you like to train them more, add one exercise
>>> for biceps and one for triceps (you don't need any more; really).
>>
>> True.
>
> That was my point. Several sets of one exercise for bis and one for
> tris in addition to some compound should be absolutely enough.

I am glad we are once again in absolute agreement.

tom

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It is a formal cultural policy to show unreasonable bias towards any
woman who is both attractive and weird.

WEZ wrote:

>im trying to bulk up and ive been doing it for 6 weeks my question is.
>*full body workouts*
>is this right for me or should i concentrate on specific muscles on
>specific days
>i attend the gym 3 times a week & im currently doing a few sets on each
>muscle which takes
>between 60-90 minutes
>
>
>
>
>
>
May I ask how doing a few sets/body part takes 60-90 minutes?

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"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

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WEZ wrote:

>im trying to bulk up and ive been doing it for 6 weeks my question is.
>*full body workouts*
>is this right for me or should i concentrate on specific muscles on
>specific days
>i attend the gym 3 times a week & im currently doing a few sets on each
>muscle which takes
>between 60-90 minutes
>
>
>
>
>
>
60-90 minutes seems like an awfully long time to complete a few
sets/body part. How long are you resting between sets?

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--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/