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Old 07-05-2008, 08:59 PM
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On Jul 4, 8:49*pm, "Auric Hellman" <adhell...@volcanomail.com> wrote:
> http://hnn.us/articles/571.html
>
> Adolf Hitler, Jesse Owens and the Olympics Myth of 1936
>
> By Rick Shenkman
>
> Everyone knows that at the 1936 Olympics Hitler snubbed Jesse Owens. As the
> story goes, after Owens won one gold medal, Hitler, incensed, stormed outof
> Olympic Stadium so he wouldn't have to congratulate Owens on his victory.
>
> Such a performance would have been perfectly in character, but it didn't
> happen. William J. Baker, Owens's biographer, says the newspapers made up
> the whole story. Owens himself originally insisted it wasn't true, but
> eventually he began saying it was, apparently out of sheer boredom with the
> issue.
>
> The facts are simple. Hitler did not congratulate Owens, but that day he
> didn't congratulate anybody else either, not even the German winners. As a
> matter of fact, Hitler didn't congratulate anyone after the first day of the
> competition. That first day he had shaken hands with all the German victors,
> but that had gotten him in trouble with the members of the Olympic
> Committee. They told him that to maintain Olympic neutrality, he would have
> to congratulate everyone or no one. Hitler chose to honor no one.
>
> Hitler did snub a black American athlete, but it was Cornelius Johnson, not
> Jesse Owens. It happened the first day of the meet. Just before Johnson was
> to be decorated, Hitler left the stadium. A Nazi spokesman explained that
> Hitler's exit had been pre-scheduled, but no one believes that.
>
> Several other misconceptions about the 1936 Olympics are prevalent. Not only
> was Owens not rebuffed by Hitler, Owens wasn't shunned by the German
> audience at the Berlin stadium either. Baker reports that Owens so captured
> the imagination of the crowd it gave him several ear-shattering ovations.
> Owens had been prepared for a hostile reception; a coach had warned him in
> advance not to be upset by anything that might happen in the stands. "Ignore
> the insults," Owens was told, "and you'll be all right." Later Owens
> recalled that he had gotten the greatest ovations of his career at Berlin..
>
> Another popular belief is that the games marked a humiliating moment for the
> Nazis because a few blacks walked away with a fistful of medals while Hitler
> had predicted the Teutonic lads would be the big winners, proof of the
> superman abilities of the white race. In reality, the competition was
> anything but a German humiliation. It is forgotten that Germany managed to
> pick up more medals than all the other countries combined. Hitler was
> pleased with the outcome.
>
> --
> Dr. Auric D. Hellman
> adhell...@volcanomail.com


Owens was quoted saying he got better treatment in Berlin than NYC.
The usual "Tribe" literally
forced Owens into the snub story.

bill

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Old 07-05-2008, 08:59 PM
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<billimmelman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 8:49 pm, "Auric Hellman" <adhell...@volcanomail.com> wrote:
> http://hnn.us/articles/571.html
>
> Adolf Hitler, Jesse Owens and the Olympics Myth of 1936
>
> By Rick Shenkman
>

[........]
>It is forgotten that Germany managed to
> pick up more medals than all the other countries combined. Hitler was
> pleased with the outcome.


I am sure Adolf would have been pleased by this reinvention of the results -
in reality Germany won 89 medals in total.
The USA won 56 medals - the balance of the top 10 countries won 145 medals.
So Germany won 89 medals and the next 9 countries won 201 medals.
Your calculator seems faulty, Dick. (sorry . . Rick)



>
> --
> Dr. Auric D. Hellman
> adhell...@volcanomail.com


Owens was quoted saying he got better treatment in Berlin than NYC.
The usual "Tribe" literally
forced Owens into the snub story.

bill


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Old 07-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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That's right, David, and you're a moron for cross-posting. Now go flush your lunch.

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:486fca56$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
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> <billimmelman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ce58abff-c30b-4b48-9a6a-a57edad4cee3@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 4, 8:49 pm, "Auric Hellman" <adhell...@volcanomail.com> wrote:
> > http://hnn.us/articles/571.html
> >
> > Adolf Hitler, Jesse Owens and the Olympics Myth of 1936
> >
> > By Rick Shenkman
> >

> [........]
> >It is forgotten that Germany managed to
> > pick up more medals than all the other countries combined. Hitler was
> > pleased with the outcome.

>
> I am sure Adolf would have been pleased by this reinvention of the results -
> in reality Germany won 89 medals in total.
> The USA won 56 medals - the balance of the top 10 countries won 145 medals.
> So Germany won 89 medals and the next 9 countries won 201 medals.
> Your calculator seems faulty, Dick. (sorry . . Rick)
>
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Auric D. Hellman
> > adhell...@volcanomail.com

>
> Owens was quoted saying he got better treatment in Berlin than NYC.
> The usual "Tribe" literally
> forced Owens into the snub story.
>
> bill
>
>

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Old 07-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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you don't like cross posting?



"Guv Bob" <brotherdave@bigfootYEOOOOOW.com> wrote in message
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That's right, David, and you're a moron for cross-posting. Now go flush
your lunch.

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> <billimmelman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ce58abff-c30b-4b48-9a6a-a57edad4cee3@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 4, 8:49 pm, "Auric Hellman" <adhell...@volcanomail.com> wrote:
> > http://hnn.us/articles/571.html
> >
> > Adolf Hitler, Jesse Owens and the Olympics Myth of 1936
> >
> > By Rick Shenkman
> >

> [........]
> >It is forgotten that Germany managed to
> > pick up more medals than all the other countries combined. Hitler was
> > pleased with the outcome.

>
> I am sure Adolf would have been pleased by this reinvention of the
> results -
> in reality Germany won 89 medals in total.
> The USA won 56 medals - the balance of the top 10 countries won 145
> medals.
> So Germany won 89 medals and the next 9 countries won 201 medals.
> Your calculator seems faulty, Dick. (sorry . . Rick)
>
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Auric D. Hellman
> > adhell...@volcanomail.com

>
> Owens was quoted saying he got better treatment in Berlin than NYC.
> The usual "Tribe" literally
> forced Owens into the snub story.
>
> bill
>
>



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