Re: Natural rehabilitation

[Existential Angst]

"Taka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> http://movnat.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGF-ErsJiI movnat parkour in the woods, on
the beach....

To the extent that the above is a come-on for this method, you gotta be
kidding. Most professional athletes couldn't/wouldn't do this stuff.
To even *contemplate* this method as illustrated above, you better already
be rehabilitated AND in peak condition AND with the proclivity for this type
of exertion, otherwise you will indeed be in dire need of rehabilitation and
PT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTgnGBlNTA one of the demos of the movnat
gym

This is more practical, but not THAT much more practical or more functional
than picking up a weight off the floor and getting it over your head -- or
running a cupla miles. Yeah, of course, more "jungle-jim-ey", which is
always good, but really, just who's gonna do dat stuff except for the
wannabe Parkour crowd??

Hey, iffin you want neuromuscular, find a railroad, and try walking a mile
on one rail.... LOL

What's really missing from all this is a structured gradation, for people to
be able to GET to these levels.
If carrying dumbbells around an obstacle course is the goal, of course
gradation is built in, and that's fine -- altho I could think of many MUCH
more useful things to do than walking around with effing dumbbells, obstacle
course or not.

But hoisting yer bodyweight up 10 feet in the air is a kind of go-no-go
situration. How do you build up to that??

In my mind, all in all, movnat is a kind of a jerk-off session for people
who can *already do this kind of stuff* -- which pretty much requires a BMI
of, oh, around 10.

All great stuff, if you can do it, but mostly good for a few more practical
ideas, and UTTERLY impractical for the average joe.

Proly the most useful functional *practical* moves for 99% of the population
is being able to lift a heavy-ish weight from the floor to overhead (bales
of hay??) -- without throwing out yer back -- sprinting/jogging, hanging,
deep-ish kneebends, and learning how to fall/roll. Mebbe a cupla others.
And all of this has gradation built right in, altho some apparatus can
help -- gee, like what Moi builds?? You don't say.... LOL

Ito *actual rehab* and intelligently exploiting biomechanics for rehab
purposes (in the most general sense of rehab, ie of gradual self-improvement
wrt to strength, endurance, ROM), the story can get quite detailed, but not
off-the-wall (literally) like this movenat stuff.

movnat seems more like P90X or Shaun T's Insanity, done on a mountain top
or 20 feet off the ground in a tree.
In fact, Shaun T's Insanity is biomechanically pretty sound, pretty good
stuff -- IF you are self-obsessed/narcissistic enough to put yourself
through alladat.

The only person I personally know of who is amenable to that type stuff is
Stevie Friedes. Gohde certainly meets the self-obsessed/narcissistic
criteria, but I suspect his BMI is somewhere around 35. OR he's too
crankily anorexic to do much of anything except tend to his website.....

And of course, the REAL mind**** to all this is the implicit marketing
innuendo, that if YOU do movnat, you will look like these guys.
Yeah, right.
A 5'8" 250# guy wouldn't/couldn't even know where to *begin* in movnat,
precisely because there is no graduated structure.

Sorta like Yoger. You don't get skinny doing yoger. Skinny underfed people
in the East did Yoger, cuz that's all they could manage. They were too fukn
hungry to run marathons'n'lift weights'n'****....

But WE, westernized assholes, once again misconstrue correlation with
causality, and think that if WE do yoger, WE will get skinny, too.
Much like the misconstrued correlation/causality of cholesterol with CVD --
proly one of the great medical/statistical conjobs/mind****s of the 20th
century, foisted upon a Pubic that is unaware of the true etiology of
atherogenesis.

Yoger is also a lot like Starbucks:
Part of the payoff to doing yoger is running around with that silly
rolled up mat draped across yer back, so the whole fukn world knows yer doin
Yoger. Just like walking around with the Starbucks-labeled coffee cup....
I mean, latte cup.....

Movnat is like Starbucks, with about 4,000 mg of caffeine in it.
--
EA

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On Dec 17, 9:07*am, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Taka" <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]..
>
> >http://movnat.com/
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGF-ErsJiI*movnat parkour in the woods, on
> the beach....
>
> To the extent that the above is a come-on for this method, you gotta be
> kidding. *Most professional athletes couldn't/wouldn't do this stuff.
> To even *contemplate* this method as illustrated above, you better already
> be rehabilitated AND in peak condition AND with the proclivity for this type
> of exertion, otherwise you will indeed be in dire need of rehabilitation and
> PT.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTgnGBlNTA*one of the demos of the movnat
> gym
>
> This is more practical, but not THAT much more practical or more functional
> than picking up a weight off the floor and getting it over your head -- or
> running a cupla miles. *Yeah, of course, more "jungle-jim-ey", which is
> always good, but really, just who's gonna do dat stuff except for the
> wannabe Parkour crowd??
>
> Hey, iffin you want neuromuscular, find a railroad, and try walking a mile
> on one rail.... * LOL
>
> What's really missing from all this is a structured gradation, for peopleto
> be able to GET to these levels.
> If carrying dumbbells around an obstacle course is the goal, of course
> gradation is built in, and that's fine -- altho I could think of many MUCH
> more useful things to do than walking around with effing dumbbells, obstacle
> course or not.
>
> But hoisting yer bodyweight up 10 feet in the air is a kind of go-no-go
> situration. *How do you build up to that??
>
> In my mind, all in all, movnat is a kind of a jerk-off session for people
> who can *already do this kind of stuff* -- which pretty much requires a BMI
> of, oh, around 10.
>
> All great stuff, if you can do it, but mostly good for a few more practical
> ideas, and UTTERLY impractical for the average joe.
>
> Proly the most useful functional *practical* moves for 99% of the population
> is being able to lift a heavy-ish weight from the floor to overhead (bales
> of hay??) -- without throwing out yer back -- *sprinting/jogging, hanging,
> deep-ish kneebends, and learning how to fall/roll. *Mebbe a cupla others.
> And all of this has gradation built right in, altho some apparatus can
> help -- gee, like what Moi builds?? *You don't say.... * LOL
>
> Ito *actual rehab* and intelligently exploiting biomechanics for rehab
> purposes (in the most general sense of rehab, ie of gradual self-improvement
> wrt to strength, endurance, ROM), the story can get quite detailed, but not
> off-the-wall (literally) like this movenat stuff.
>
> *movnat seems more like P90X or Shaun T's Insanity, *done on a mountain top
> or 20 feet off the ground in a tree.
> In fact, Shaun T's Insanity is biomechanically pretty sound, pretty good
> stuff -- IF you are self-obsessed/narcissistic enough to put yourself
> through alladat.
>
> The only person I personally know of who is amenable to that type stuff is
> Stevie Friedes. * Gohde certainly meets the self-obsessed/narcissistic
> criteria, but I suspect his BMI is somewhere around 35. *OR he's too
> crankily anorexic to do much of anything except tend to his website.....
>
> And of course, the REAL mind**** to all this is the implicit marketing
> innuendo, that if YOU do movnat, you will look like these guys.
> Yeah, right.
> A 5'8" 250# guy wouldn't/couldn't even know where to *begin* in movnat,
> precisely because there is no graduated structure.
>
> Sorta like Yoger. *You don't get skinny doing yoger. *Skinny underfedpeople
> in the East did Yoger, cuz that's all they could manage. *They were toofukn
> hungry to run marathons'n'lift weights'n'****....
>
> But WE, westernized assholes, once again misconstrue correlation with
> causality, and think that if WE do yoger, WE will get skinny, too.
> Much like the misconstrued correlation/causality of cholesterol with CVD --
> proly one of the great medical/statistical conjobs/mind****s of the 20th
> century, foisted upon a Pubic that is unaware of the true etiology of
> atherogenesis.
>
> Yoger is also a lot like Starbucks:
> * * Part of the payoff to doing yoger is running around with that silly
> rolled up mat draped across yer back, so the whole fukn world knows yer doin
> Yoger. *Just like walking around with the Starbucks-labeled coffee cup.....
> I mean, latte cup.....
>
> Movnat is like Starbucks, with about 4,000 mg of caffeine in it.
> --
> EA

With exercise the trick is not to get hurt or worn in the joints such
that
you can't do it. Me I run the track or the country road, the hill or
the bleacher
steps. I rarely stretch or preexercise. I start slow at a 10 or 12
minute mile'
and then I speed up. Sometimes I'll do quarters which I can get down
to 90 seconds. Once up on a time, I could do quarter miles in a minute
and the
minute could pile up and be connected.
But then 40 plus years from then to now is a large span of
time......................Trig

[John H. Gohde]

On Dec 17, 12:07*pm, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Taka" <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]..
>
> >http://movnat.com/
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGF-ErsJiI*movnat parkour in the woods, on
> the beach....
>
> To the extent that the above is a come-on for this method, you gotta be
> kidding. *Most professional athletes couldn't/wouldn't do this stuff.
> To even *contemplate* this method as illustrated above, you better already
> be rehabilitated AND in peak condition AND with the proclivity for this type
> of exertion, otherwise you will indeed be in dire need of rehabilitation and
> PT.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTgnGBlNTA*one of the demos of the movnat
> gym
>
> This is more practical, but not THAT much more practical or more functional
> than picking up a weight off the floor and getting it over your head -- or
> running a cupla miles. *Yeah, of course, more "jungle-jim-ey", which is
> always good, but really, just who's gonna do dat stuff except for the
> wannabe Parkour crowd??
>
> Hey, iffin you want neuromuscular, find a railroad, and try walking a mile
> on one rail.... * LOL
>
> What's really missing from all this is a structured gradation, for peopleto
> be able to GET to these levels.
> If carrying dumbbells around an obstacle course is the goal, of course
> gradation is built in, and that's fine -- altho I could think of many MUCH
> more useful things to do than walking around with effing dumbbells, obstacle
> course or not.
>
> But hoisting yer bodyweight up 10 feet in the air is a kind of go-no-go
> situration. *How do you build up to that??
>
> In my mind, all in all, movnat is a kind of a jerk-off session for people
> who can *already do this kind of stuff* -- which pretty much requires a BMI
> of, oh, around 10.
>
> All great stuff, if you can do it, but mostly good for a few more practical
> ideas, and UTTERLY impractical for the average joe.
>
> Proly the most useful functional *practical* moves for 99% of the population
> is being able to lift a heavy-ish weight from the floor to overhead (bales
> of hay??) -- without throwing out yer back -- *sprinting/jogging, hanging,
> deep-ish kneebends, and learning how to fall/roll. *Mebbe a cupla others.
> And all of this has gradation built right in, altho some apparatus can
> help -- gee, like what Moi builds?? *You don't say.... * LOL
>
> Ito *actual rehab* and intelligently exploiting biomechanics for rehab
> purposes (in the most general sense of rehab, ie of gradual self-improvement
> wrt to strength, endurance, ROM), the story can get quite detailed, but not
> off-the-wall (literally) like this movenat stuff.
>
> *movnat seems more like P90X or Shaun T's Insanity, *done on a mountain top
> or 20 feet off the ground in a tree.
> In fact, Shaun T's Insanity is biomechanically pretty sound, pretty good
> stuff -- IF you are self-obsessed/narcissistic enough to put yourself
> through alladat.
>
> The only person I personally know of who is amenable to that type stuff is
> Stevie Friedes. * Gohde certainly meets the self-obsessed/narcissistic
> criteria, but I suspect his BMI is somewhere around 35. *OR he's too
> crankily anorexic to do much of anything except tend to his website.....
>
> And of course, the REAL mind**** to all this is the implicit marketing
> innuendo, that if YOU do movnat, you will look like these guys.
> Yeah, right.
> A 5'8" 250# guy wouldn't/couldn't even know where to *begin* in movnat,
> precisely because there is no graduated structure.
>
> Sorta like Yoger. *You don't get skinny doing yoger. *Skinny underfedpeople
> in the East did Yoger, cuz that's all they could manage. *They were toofukn
> hungry to run marathons'n'lift weights'n'****....
>
> But WE, westernized assholes, once again misconstrue correlation with
> causality, and think that if WE do yoger, WE will get skinny, too.
> Much like the misconstrued correlation/causality of cholesterol with CVD --
> proly one of the great medical/statistical conjobs/mind****s of the 20th
> century, foisted upon a Pubic that is unaware of the true etiology of
> atherogenesis.
>
> Yoger is also a lot like Starbucks:
> * * Part of the payoff to doing yoger is running around with that silly
> rolled up mat draped across yer back, so the whole fukn world knows yer doin
> Yoger. *Just like walking around with the Starbucks-labeled coffee cup.....
> I mean, latte cup.....
>
> Movnat is like Starbucks, with about 4,000 mg of caffeine in it.
> --
> EA

In the States we have a FREE training program. It is called boot camp
for the U. S. Marines. Of course, the slackers often die during
training, and sometimes more due to homicide than for any other
reason. Marines basically don't like weaklings dragging the group
down.

[Existential Angst]

"John H. Gohde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Dec 17, 12:07 pm, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Taka" <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]..
>
> >http://movnat.com/
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGF-ErsJiI movnat parkour in the woods, on
> the beach....
>
> To the extent that the above is a come-on for this method, you gotta be
> kidding. Most professional athletes couldn't/wouldn't do this stuff.
> To even *contemplate* this method as illustrated above, you better already
> be rehabilitated AND in peak condition AND with the proclivity for this
> type
> of exertion, otherwise you will indeed be in dire need of rehabilitation
> and
> PT.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTgnGBlNTA one of the demos of the movnat
> gym
>
> This is more practical, but not THAT much more practical or more
> functional
> than picking up a weight off the floor and getting it over your head -- or
> running a cupla miles. Yeah, of course, more "jungle-jim-ey", which is
> always good, but really, just who's gonna do dat stuff except for the
> wannabe Parkour crowd??
>
> Hey, iffin you want neuromuscular, find a railroad, and try walking a mile
> on one rail.... LOL
>
> What's really missing from all this is a structured gradation, for people
> to
> be able to GET to these levels.
> If carrying dumbbells around an obstacle course is the goal, of course
> gradation is built in, and that's fine -- altho I could think of many MUCH
> more useful things to do than walking around with effing dumbbells,
> obstacle
> course or not.
>
> But hoisting yer bodyweight up 10 feet in the air is a kind of go-no-go
> situration. How do you build up to that??
>
> In my mind, all in all, movnat is a kind of a jerk-off session for people
> who can *already do this kind of stuff* -- which pretty much requires a
> BMI
> of, oh, around 10.
>
> All great stuff, if you can do it, but mostly good for a few more
> practical
> ideas, and UTTERLY impractical for the average joe.
>
> Proly the most useful functional *practical* moves for 99% of the
> population
> is being able to lift a heavy-ish weight from the floor to overhead (bales
> of hay??) -- without throwing out yer back -- sprinting/jogging, hanging,
> deep-ish kneebends, and learning how to fall/roll. Mebbe a cupla others.
> And all of this has gradation built right in, altho some apparatus can
> help -- gee, like what Moi builds?? You don't say.... LOL
>
> Ito *actual rehab* and intelligently exploiting biomechanics for rehab
> purposes (in the most general sense of rehab, ie of gradual
> self-improvement
> wrt to strength, endurance, ROM), the story can get quite detailed, but
> not
> off-the-wall (literally) like this movenat stuff.
>
> movnat seems more like P90X or Shaun T's Insanity, done on a mountain top
> or 20 feet off the ground in a tree.
> In fact, Shaun T's Insanity is biomechanically pretty sound, pretty good
> stuff -- IF you are self-obsessed/narcissistic enough to put yourself
> through alladat.
>
> The only person I personally know of who is amenable to that type stuff is
> Stevie Friedes. Gohde certainly meets the self-obsessed/narcissistic
> criteria, but I suspect his BMI is somewhere around 35. OR he's too
> crankily anorexic to do much of anything except tend to his website.....
>
> And of course, the REAL mind**** to all this is the implicit marketing
> innuendo, that if YOU do movnat, you will look like these guys.
> Yeah, right.
> A 5'8" 250# guy wouldn't/couldn't even know where to *begin* in movnat,
> precisely because there is no graduated structure.
>
> Sorta like Yoger. You don't get skinny doing yoger. Skinny underfed people
> in the East did Yoger, cuz that's all they could manage. They were too
> fukn
> hungry to run marathons'n'lift weights'n'****....
>
> But WE, westernized assholes, once again misconstrue correlation with
> causality, and think that if WE do yoger, WE will get skinny, too.
> Much like the misconstrued correlation/causality of cholesterol with
> CVD --
> proly one of the great medical/statistical conjobs/mind****s of the 20th
> century, foisted upon a Pubic that is unaware of the true etiology of
> atherogenesis.
>
> Yoger is also a lot like Starbucks:
> Part of the payoff to doing yoger is running around with that silly
> rolled up mat draped across yer back, so the whole fukn world knows yer
> doin
> Yoger. Just like walking around with the Starbucks-labeled coffee cup....
> I mean, latte cup.....
>
> Movnat is like Starbucks, with about 4,000 mg of caffeine in it.
> --
> EA

In the States we have a FREE training program. It is called boot camp
for the U. S. Marines. Of course, the slackers often die during
training, and sometimes more due to homicide than for any other
reason. Marines basically don't like weaklings dragging the group
down.
================================================== =========

I'm sure you have first-hand experience with this, eh?

Speaking of slackers, no erudite thoughts from The Great Gohde on why
astaxanthin is SO much better than beta carotene, anti-oxidant-wise?
Apropos of their similar structures....
--
EA

[John H. Gohde]

On Dec 18, 10:51*am, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:[email protected]...
> On Dec 17, 12:07 pm, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Taka" <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]..
>
> > >http://movnat.com/
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGF-ErsJiImovnat parkour in the woods,on
> > the beach....
>
> > To the extent that the above is a come-on for this method, you gotta be
> > kidding. Most professional athletes couldn't/wouldn't do this stuff.
> > To even *contemplate* this method as illustrated above, you better already
> > be rehabilitated AND in peak condition AND with the proclivity for this
> > type
> > of exertion, otherwise you will indeed be in dire need of rehabilitation
> > and
> > PT.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTgnGBlNTAone of the demos of the movnat
> > gym
>
> > This is more practical, but not THAT much more practical or more
> > functional
> > than picking up a weight off the floor and getting it over your head --or
> > running a cupla miles. Yeah, of course, more "jungle-jim-ey", which is
> > always good, but really, just who's gonna do dat stuff except for the
> > wannabe Parkour crowd??
>
> > Hey, iffin you want neuromuscular, find a railroad, and try walking a mile
> > on one rail.... LOL
>
> > What's really missing from all this is a structured gradation, for people
> > to
> > be able to GET to these levels.
> > If carrying dumbbells around an obstacle course is the goal, of course
> > gradation is built in, and that's fine -- altho I could think of many MUCH
> > more useful things to do than walking around with effing dumbbells,
> > obstacle
> > course or not.
>
> > But hoisting yer bodyweight up 10 feet in the air is a kind of go-no-go
> > situration. How do you build up to that??
>
> > In my mind, all in all, movnat is a kind of a jerk-off session for people
> > who can *already do this kind of stuff* -- which pretty much requires a
> > BMI
> > of, oh, around 10.
>
> > All great stuff, if you can do it, but mostly good for a few more
> > practical
> > ideas, and UTTERLY impractical for the average joe.
>
> > Proly the most useful functional *practical* moves for 99% of the
> > population
> > is being able to lift a heavy-ish weight from the floor to overhead (bales
> > of hay??) -- without throwing out yer back -- sprinting/jogging, hanging,
> > deep-ish kneebends, and learning how to fall/roll. Mebbe a cupla others..
> > And all of this has gradation built right in, altho some apparatus can
> > help -- gee, like what Moi builds?? You don't say.... LOL
>
> > Ito *actual rehab* and intelligently exploiting biomechanics for rehab
> > purposes (in the most general sense of rehab, ie of gradual
> > self-improvement
> > wrt to strength, endurance, ROM), the story can get quite detailed, but
> > not
> > off-the-wall (literally) like this movenat stuff.
>
> > movnat seems more like P90X or Shaun T's Insanity, done on a mountain top
> > or 20 feet off the ground in a tree.
> > In fact, Shaun T's Insanity is biomechanically pretty sound, pretty good
> > stuff -- IF you are self-obsessed/narcissistic enough to put yourself
> > through alladat.
>
> > The only person I personally know of who is amenable to that type stuffis
> > Stevie Friedes. Gohde certainly meets the self-obsessed/narcissistic
> > criteria, but I suspect his BMI is somewhere around 35. OR he's too
> > crankily anorexic to do much of anything except tend to his website......
>
> > And of course, the REAL mind**** to all this is the implicit marketing
> > innuendo, that if YOU do movnat, you will look like these guys.
> > Yeah, right.
> > A 5'8" 250# guy wouldn't/couldn't even know where to *begin* in movnat,
> > precisely because there is no graduated structure.
>
> > Sorta like Yoger. You don't get skinny doing yoger. Skinny underfed people
> > in the East did Yoger, cuz that's all they could manage. They were too
> > fukn
> > hungry to run marathons'n'lift weights'n'****....
>
> > But WE, westernized assholes, once again misconstrue correlation with
> > causality, and think that if WE do yoger, WE will get skinny, too.
> > Much like the misconstrued correlation/causality of cholesterol with
> > CVD --
> > proly one of the great medical/statistical conjobs/mind****s of the 20th
> > century, foisted upon a Pubic that is unaware of the true etiology of
> > atherogenesis.
>
> > Yoger is also a lot like Starbucks:
> > Part of the payoff to doing yoger is running around with that silly
> > rolled up mat draped across yer back, so the whole fukn world knows yer
> > doin
> > Yoger. Just like walking around with the Starbucks-labeled coffee cup.....
> > I mean, latte cup.....
>
> > Movnat is like Starbucks, with about 4,000 mg of caffeine in it.
> > --
> > EA
>
> In the States we have a FREE training program. *It is called boot camp
> for the U. S. Marines. *Of course, the slackers often die during
> training, and sometimes more due to homicide than for any other
> reason. *Marines basically don't like weaklings dragging the group
> down. *
> ================================================== =========
>
> I'm sure you have first-hand experience with this, eh?
>
> Speaking of slackers, no erudite thoughts from The Great Gohde on why
> astaxanthin is SO much better than beta carotene, anti-oxidant-wise?
> Apropos of their similar structures....
> --
> EA

Like I said previously, I am going strictly on a few mercola videos
which were interviews of so called academic experts on the subject,
plus the fact that it cured a 30 year old eye problem of mine in less
than one month.

I have a million and one things to do, all of which need to be done at
the same time.

Chemicals structures are NOT on the top of my list of priorities.

[Existential Angst]

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:14:28 -0800 (PST), John H. Gohde wrote:

> On Dec 18, 10:51*am, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:[email protected]...
>> On Dec 17, 12:07 pm, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Taka" <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>news:[email protected]..
>>
>>> >http://movnat.com/
>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGF-ErsJiImovnat parkour in the woods, on
>>> the beach....
>>
>>> To the extent that the above is a come-on for this method, you gotta be
>>> kidding. Most professional athletes couldn't/wouldn't do this stuff.
>>> To even *contemplate* this method as illustrated above, you better already
>>> be rehabilitated AND in peak condition AND with the proclivity for this
>>> type
>>> of exertion, otherwise you will indeed be in dire need of rehabilitation
>>> and
>>> PT.
>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyTgnGBlNTAone of the demos of the movnat
>>> gym
>>
>>> This is more practical, but not THAT much more practical or more
>>> functional
>>> than picking up a weight off the floor and getting it over your head -- or
>>> running a cupla miles. Yeah, of course, more "jungle-jim-ey", which is
>>> always good, but really, just who's gonna do dat stuff except for the
>>> wannabe Parkour crowd??
>>
>>> Hey, iffin you want neuromuscular, find a railroad, and try walking a mile
>>> on one rail.... LOL
>>
>>> What's really missing from all this is a structured gradation, for people
>>> to
>>> be able to GET to these levels.
>>> If carrying dumbbells around an obstacle course is the goal, of course
>>> gradation is built in, and that's fine -- altho I could think of many MUCH
>>> more useful things to do than walking around with effing dumbbells,
>>> obstacle
>>> course or not.
>>
>>> But hoisting yer bodyweight up 10 feet in the air is a kind of go-no-go
>>> situration. How do you build up to that??
>>
>>> In my mind, all in all, movnat is a kind of a jerk-off session for people
>>> who can *already do this kind of stuff* -- which pretty much requires a
>>> BMI
>>> of, oh, around 10.
>>
>>> All great stuff, if you can do it, but mostly good for a few more
>>> practical
>>> ideas, and UTTERLY impractical for the average joe.
>>
>>> Proly the most useful functional *practical* moves for 99% of the
>>> population
>>> is being able to lift a heavy-ish weight from the floor to overhead (bales
>>> of hay??) -- without throwing out yer back -- sprinting/jogging, hanging,
>>> deep-ish kneebends, and learning how to fall/roll. Mebbe a cupla others.
>>> And all of this has gradation built right in, altho some apparatus can
>>> help -- gee, like what Moi builds?? You don't say.... LOL
>>
>>> Ito *actual rehab* and intelligently exploiting biomechanics for rehab
>>> purposes (in the most general sense of rehab, ie of gradual
>>> self-improvement
>>> wrt to strength, endurance, ROM), the story can get quite detailed, but
>>> not
>>> off-the-wall (literally) like this movenat stuff.
>>
>>> movnat seems more like P90X or Shaun T's Insanity, done on a mountain top
>>> or 20 feet off the ground in a tree.
>>> In fact, Shaun T's Insanity is biomechanically pretty sound, pretty good
>>> stuff -- IF you are self-obsessed/narcissistic enough to put yourself
>>> through alladat.
>>
>>> The only person I personally know of who is amenable to that type stuff is
>>> Stevie Friedes. Gohde certainly meets the self-obsessed/narcissistic
>>> criteria, but I suspect his BMI is somewhere around 35. OR he's too
>>> crankily anorexic to do much of anything except tend to his website.....
>>
>>> And of course, the REAL mind**** to all this is the implicit marketing
>>> innuendo, that if YOU do movnat, you will look like these guys.
>>> Yeah, right.
>>> A 5'8" 250# guy wouldn't/couldn't even know where to *begin* in movnat,
>>> precisely because there is no graduated structure.
>>
>>> Sorta like Yoger. You don't get skinny doing yoger. Skinny underfed people
>>> in the East did Yoger, cuz that's all they could manage. They were too
>>> fukn
>>> hungry to run marathons'n'lift weights'n'****....
>>
>>> But WE, westernized assholes, once again misconstrue correlation with
>>> causality, and think that if WE do yoger, WE will get skinny, too.
>>> Much like the misconstrued correlation/causality of cholesterol with
>>> CVD --
>>> proly one of the great medical/statistical conjobs/mind****s of the 20th
>>> century, foisted upon a Pubic that is unaware of the true etiology of
>>> atherogenesis.
>>
>>> Yoger is also a lot like Starbucks:
>>> Part of the payoff to doing yoger is running around with that silly
>>> rolled up mat draped across yer back, so the whole fukn world knows yer
>>> doin
>>> Yoger. Just like walking around with the Starbucks-labeled coffee cup....
>>> I mean, latte cup.....
>>
>>> Movnat is like Starbucks, with about 4,000 mg of caffeine in it.
>>> --
>>> EA
>>
>> In the States we have a FREE training program. *It is called boot camp
>> for the U. S. Marines. *Of course, the slackers often die during
>> training, and sometimes more due to homicide than for any other
>> reason. *Marines basically don't like weaklings dragging the group
>> down. *
>> ================================================== =========
>>
>> I'm sure you have first-hand experience with this, eh?
>>
>> Speaking of slackers, no erudite thoughts from The Great Gohde on why
>> astaxanthin is SO much better than beta carotene, anti-oxidant-wise?
>> Apropos of their similar structures....
>> --
>> EA
>
> Like I said previously, I am going strictly on a few mercola videos
> which were interviews of so called academic experts on the subject,
> plus the fact that it cured a 30 year old eye problem of mine in less
> than one month.
>
> I have a million and one things to do, all of which need to be done at
> the same time.
>
> Chemicals structures are NOT on the top of my list of priorities.

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