Re: Obama's True Colors Come Out!

On Apr 12, 3:30 pm, Anonymous <x...@hermetix.org> wrote:
> At a heavily-Jewish, elitist fundraiser in San Francisco,
> Barack Hussein Obama spoke his true sentiments about White
> people in a press-barred, closed-door meeting. In speaking about
> White middle class Americans, he stated:
>
> "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
> to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
> explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
> York Times, April 12, 2008)
> Obama's phrase, "People who aren't like them" is an obvious
> reference to American White people and their opposition to
> immigrants because they are "people not like them.". Here is
> David Duke's official statement in reaction to Barack Obama's
> remarks:
>
> Mr. Obama:
>
> I believe White Americans are increasingly bitter for good
> reasons. They are indeed frustrated. But again, they have good
> reasons for that frustration.
>
> Better-qualified White students, employees, working men and
> women face intensive racial discrimination that you and the
> other major candidates deceptively call "affirmative action."
>
> Many White people can no longer use the public school system
> that their own taxes pay for because "people who aren't like
> them" have made their schools awash in violence, educational
> mediocrity, drugs, sexual degeneracy and gangsta rap.
>
> Millions of White people who have paid exorbitant taxes all
> their lives can't afford medical insurance and decent medical
> care in no small part because "people who aren't like them,"
> such as illegal immigrants and able-bodied, welfare parasites,
> people who have paid no taxes at all, have overloaded the the
> system.
>
> Millions of White people see that illegal immigrants, "people
> who aren't like them," are illegally crossing the American
> border and they see clearly that politicians like you, Clinton
> and McCain won't even enforce our laws.
>
> They are bitter because unelected economic czars such as
> Greenspan and Bernanke, Wolfowitz and a whole coterie of Jewish
> "people who aren't like them" have ripped them off and have let
> so-called "free trade" destroy the American economy.
>
> They are bitter because other Jewish Neocon "people who are not
> like them," have led us into a catastrophic war for Israel in
> Iraq, a war that will cost the American people trillions of
> dollars and that has killed or ruined tens of thousands of
> American lives (While Jewish dead or wounded are spectacularly
> underrepresented in those terrible casualties).
>
> White Americans are sick of the fact that their streets are so
> damned dangerous from "people who are not like them" that they
> appropriately "cling to guns."
>
> Christian Americans are also sick of the fact that the Christian
> meanings of Christmas are being driven from public life, with
> crosses and nativity scenes banned from public land in our
> nation's capital while at Chanukah a huge Jewish Menorah, symbol
> of Jewish ethnocentrism and Jewish resistance to assimilation,
> is put across from the White House and dedicated by the Jewish
> extremists of Habad Lubavitch, vicious anti-Gentiles who claim
> that Gentiles are little more than animals with "satanic souls."
> Of course, in response to the attack on the values, mores and
> faith of the American non-Jewish, White majority, that "they
> cling to their religion." They marvel how they see billions of
> dollars of their tax money support the "Jewish state" of Israel,
> but also see it is forbidden to even refer to America as a
> "Christian nation."
>
> I realize why you made the comments at a heavily-Jewish, closed-
> door, no press allowed meeting. Their agenda is not the same as
> our agenda. The (Jewish) Council of Presidents, an alliance of
> the biggest and most powerful Jewish organizations in America
> has exactly the same sentiments as you enunciated in your
> speech. It is fanatically for open borders, free trade and of
> course, for gun control. You are their puppet.
>
> You say that you are for the working people, the middle class
> American, but in reality your biggest single campaign
> contributor is the Jewish extremist, Goldman Sachs Corporation.
> Those at Goldman Sachs, are the same extremists that have led
> America to its economic and social catastrophe. They are the
> elite of the elite of American politics and media, the heart of
> the new 21st century American establishment. And, just like the
> elitist crowd you addressed in San Francisco, they are people
> not like the average White person in America, not in values,
> heritage, or interests. Your audience itself was truly "people
> who aren't like them."
>
> The American people need not explain their frustrations. They
> have legitimate frustrations, and legitimate anger at politics
> as usual in America.
>
> But, you sir, are a hypocrite, one who says he represents
> change, but more of the same relentless attack upon the White
> people of this country and the values and views of White
> people. Stop trying to pretend otherwise. You, Clinton, and
> McCain, should run for President of Israel, or Uganda, or
> Mexico. Not one of you should get a single White American's
> vote. You and your other two comrades for President are
> controlled lock, stock and barrel by, as you say, "people who
> aren't like them."
>
> David Duke

Obama; arrogant mulatoo.

ted

http://www.stormfront.org/ Stormfront

[...]

> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke <snip>:
>
> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>

People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
"cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?

Bitter and frustrated, loves guns and religion. Sound so unfamiliar?
And most people are, unfortunately, anti-immigrant. Even immigrants. :
( Obama, from my perspective, was stating facts not stating that he
agreed with those facts or that he believes that scenario is the
ideal. The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
comments out of context.

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In talk.politics.guns Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

>[...]
>
>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke <snip>:
>>
>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>
>People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
>"cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?

Um, no.

>The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
>comments out of context.

Ah, the "out of context" excuse. Gee, it took you freaks a couple of
days to start shooting that one over the wall.

Buck Mulligan wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke <snip>:
>>>
>>>> "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>>>> to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>>>> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>> explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>>>> York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>>
>> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
>> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like
>> them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>
> Um, no.
>
>> The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
>> comments out of context.
>
> Ah, the "out of context" excuse. Gee, it took you freaks a couple of
> days to start shooting that one over the wall.

In addition to Hillary being too tired to conduct the day-to-day business of
being President because she's up at 3 A.M. waiting for the phone to ring, we
now have the spector of the Chinese or Russians firing nukes at us because
Barack was "taken out-of-context".

--
Dave
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan

In article
<7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
> comments out of context.

Much to our eternal sorrow...

Anyone who trusts the media for true news is a fool.
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article <kjo404dav7ugdiqbnppviqe6p31js1rldm@4ax.com>,
Buck Mulligan <bkmulligan@comcast.net> wrote:

> >People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
> >over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
> >"cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
> >or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
> >explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>
> Um, no.
>
> >The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
> >comments out of context.
>
> Ah, the "out of context" excuse. Gee, it took you freaks a couple of
> days to start shooting that one over the wall.

Good gods Buck, do YOU really trust the media?

If so, I pity you.
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

"Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> [...]
>
>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke <snip>:
>>
>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>
> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>
Not unless he was describing Klan members. Apparently Obama fails to see any
difference between the angry white man loser faction and small town America.

"Dave Bugg" wrote:
>
> Barack was "taken out-of-context".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ5c6hxqXq4&feature=user

In talk.politics.guns Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article
><7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
>> comments out of context.
>
>Much to our eternal sorrow...
>
>Anyone who trusts the media for true news is a fool.

Ooh! Ooh! Tell us what he REALLY said!

In talk.politics.guns Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <kjo404dav7ugdiqbnppviqe6p31js1rldm@4ax.com>,
> Buck Mulligan <bkmulligan@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> >People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>> >over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
>> >"cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>> >or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>> >explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>>
>> Um, no.
>>
>> >The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
>> >comments out of context.
>>
>> Ah, the "out of context" excuse. Gee, it took you freaks a couple of
>> days to start shooting that one over the wall.
>
>Good gods Buck, do YOU really trust the media?

I didn't mention the media, except as a source of Obama's comments,
which he's already admitted were his.

In the media. Uh-oh, do you suspect a C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y? Was it
Hillary that actually said it? Are black helicopters circling your
trailer?

On Apr 13, 7:18 pm, "ATP*" <waxwingsl...@azurepane.com> wrote:
> "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > [...]
>
> >> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke <snip>:
>
> >> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
> >> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
> >> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
> >> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
> >> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>
> > People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
> > over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
> > "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
> > explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>
> Not unless he was describing Klan members. Apparently Obama fails to see any
> difference between the angry white man loser faction and small town America.

Cite? Because I didn't hear him say... that.

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"Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> [...]
>
>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke <snip>:
>>
>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>
> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>
> Bitter and frustrated, loves guns and religion. Sound so unfamiliar?
> And most people are, unfortunately, anti-immigrant. Even immigrants. :
> ( Obama, from my perspective, was stating facts not stating that he
> agreed with those facts or that he believes that scenario is the
> ideal. The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
> comments out of context.
>
>
The only true bitter people are the Democrats over the two fuckups they have
to choose from.

"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> [...]
>>
>>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke
>>> > <snip>:
>>>
>>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>>
>> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
>> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like
>> them
>> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>>
>> Bitter and frustrated, loves guns and religion. Sound so unfamiliar?
>> And most people are, unfortunately, anti-immigrant. Even immigrants.
>> :
>> ( Obama, from my perspective, was stating facts not stating that he
>> agreed with those facts or that he believes that scenario is the
>> ideal. The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
>> comments out of context.
>>
>>
> The only true bitter people are the Democrats over the two fuckups
> they have to choose from.
>

And the two they nominated before them.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:08 -0400, "NapalmHeart" <olsonfamNOSPAM@iserv.net>
wrote:

>
>"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
>news:FXJMj.119896$yE1.9683@attbi_s21...
>>
>> "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke
>>>> > <snip>:
>>>>
>>>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>>>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>>>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>>>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>>>
>>> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>>> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that people
>>> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like
>>> them
>>> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>>>
>>> Bitter and frustrated, loves guns and religion. Sound so unfamiliar?
>>> And most people are, unfortunately, anti-immigrant. Even immigrants.
>>> :
>>> ( Obama, from my perspective, was stating facts not stating that he
>>> agreed with those facts or that he believes that scenario is the
>>> ideal. The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus on
>>> comments out of context.
>>>
>>>
>> The only true bitter people are the Democrats over the two fuckups
>> they have to choose from.
>>
>
>And the two they nominated before them.
>
yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where would we be
without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an extremely poorly
conceived and executed war. Too bad they can't run again. Four more years and
we'd all be speaking Mandarin.

"RT" <RT-not@home.place> wrote in message
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> yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where would we
> be
> without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an extremely poorly
> conceived and executed war.

Both of which - the overspending and the war - were approved authorized and
voted for by Congress.

Do try to keep your history straight before you indulge in brainless
BushBash.

> Too bad they can't run again. Four more years and
> we'd all be speaking Mandarin.

Yes, I wonder what you BushBash fools are going to do when they're gone?
You'll be too afraid to say anything if it's Hillary and Obama will put in a
re-education camp, so yeah - too bad you'll have to think for yourself just
once, eh?

RT wrote:
>> And the two they nominated before them.
>>
> yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where
> would we be without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an
> extremely poorly conceived and executed war. Too bad they can't run
> again. Four more years and we'd all be speaking Mandarin.

Surely you exaggerate.

It's also possible many of us would be dying of cancer from a dirty bomb, or
incinerated in another airplane attack, or something else. We just don't
know what the present could have been - we only know what it is. And what it
is is this: there have been no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as there have
been in other countries. Luck? Maybe. Prevention? Probably.

All wars are poorly conceived and executed. About the only modern war that
went according to plan was Gulf War I; we slaughtered thousands of the
fuckers.

I just read that a big contributing factor to Germany's failure in WW2 was
Italy attacking Greece! Hitler was furious! That meant that Britan would
assist Greece and threaten Hitler's push into Yugoslavia and southern
Russia.

The only way to get out of debt is to break the Democrat's hold on the purse
strings.

And I don't think everybody could learn Mandarin in four years.

"RT" <RT-not@home.place> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:08 -0400, "NapalmHeart"
> <olsonfamNOSPAM@iserv.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
>>news:FXJMj.119896$yE1.9683@attbi_s21...
>>>
>>> "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke
>>>>> > <snip>:
>>>>>
>>>>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>>>>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>>>>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>>>>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>>>>
>>>> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>>>> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that
>>>> people
>>>> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like
>>>> them
>>>> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>>>>
>>>> Bitter and frustrated, loves guns and religion. Sound so
>>>> unfamiliar?
>>>> And most people are, unfortunately, anti-immigrant. Even
>>>> immigrants.
>>>> :
>>>> ( Obama, from my perspective, was stating facts not stating that he
>>>> agreed with those facts or that he believes that scenario is the
>>>> ideal. The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus
>>>> on
>>>> comments out of context.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The only true bitter people are the Democrats over the two fuckups
>>> they have to choose from.
>>>
>>
>>And the two they nominated before them.
>>
> yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where would
> we be
> without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an extremely
> poorly
> conceived and executed war. Too bad they can't run again. Four more
> years and
> we'd all be speaking Mandarin.

Not saying that they have been great, just that they were better than
the Democratic alternatives.

NapalmHeart wrote:

> And the two they nominated before them.

Oh, it goes WAY further back than that! They've barely had anything you
could call a Party since Kennedy. What a collection of mis-leaders.


Jack

"J a c k" <baron58y@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> NapalmHeart wrote:
>
>> And the two they nominated before them.
>
> Oh, it goes WAY further back than that! They've barely had anything
> you could call a Party since Kennedy. What a collection of
> mis-leaders.
>
>
> Jack

IAWTP. I have to believe that if JFK were alive he would either be a
Republican or the Democrats would be a much more conservative party.

Ken

"Ted" <tedorn44@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 12, 3:30 pm, Anonymous <x...@hermetix.org> wrote:
>> At a heavily-Jewish, elitist fundraiser in San Francisco,
>> Barack Hussein Obama spoke his true sentiments about White
>> people in a press-barred, closed-door meeting. In speaking about
>> White middle class Americans, he stated:
>>
>> "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>> to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>> explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>> York Times, April 12, 2008)

It's not surprising, he knows who he has to appeal to to have any chance of
being elected.


>> Obama's phrase, "People who aren't like them" is an obvious
>> reference to American White people and their opposition to
>> immigrants because they are "people not like them.". Here is
>> David Duke's official statement in reaction to Barack Obama's
>> remarks:
>>
>> Mr. Obama:
>>
>> I believe White Americans are increasingly bitter for good
>> reasons. They are indeed frustrated. But again, they have good
>> reasons for that frustration.
>>
>> Better-qualified White students, employees, working men and
>> women face intensive racial discrimination that you and the
>> other major candidates deceptively call "affirmative action."
>>
>> Many White people can no longer use the public school system
>> that their own taxes pay for because "people who aren't like
>> them" have made their schools awash in violence, educational
>> mediocrity, drugs, sexual degeneracy and gangsta rap.
>>
>> Millions of White people who have paid exorbitant taxes all
>> their lives can't afford medical insurance and decent medical
>> care in no small part because "people who aren't like them,"
>> such as illegal immigrants and able-bodied, welfare parasites,
>> people who have paid no taxes at all, have overloaded the the
>> system.
>>
>> Millions of White people see that illegal immigrants, "people
>> who aren't like them," are illegally crossing the American
>> border and they see clearly that politicians like you, Clinton
>> and McCain won't even enforce our laws.
>>
>> They are bitter because unelected economic czars such as
>> Greenspan and Bernanke, Wolfowitz and a whole coterie of Jewish
>> "people who aren't like them" have ripped them off and have let
>> so-called "free trade" destroy the American economy.
>>
>> They are bitter because other Jewish Neocon "people who are not
>> like them," have led us into a catastrophic war for Israel in
>> Iraq, a war that will cost the American people trillions of
>> dollars and that has killed or ruined tens of thousands of
>> American lives (While Jewish dead or wounded are spectacularly
>> underrepresented in those terrible casualties).
>>
>> White Americans are sick of the fact that their streets are so
>> damned dangerous from "people who are not like them" that they
>> appropriately "cling to guns."
>>
>> Christian Americans are also sick of the fact that the Christian
>> meanings of Christmas are being driven from public life, with
>> crosses and nativity scenes banned from public land in our
>> nation's capital while at Chanukah a huge Jewish Menorah, symbol
>> of Jewish ethnocentrism and Jewish resistance to assimilation,
>> is put across from the White House and dedicated by the Jewish
>> extremists of Habad Lubavitch, vicious anti-Gentiles who claim
>> that Gentiles are little more than animals with "satanic souls."
>> Of course, in response to the attack on the values, mores and
>> faith of the American non-Jewish, White majority, that "they
>> cling to their religion." They marvel how they see billions of
>> dollars of their tax money support the "Jewish state" of Israel,
>> but also see it is forbidden to even refer to America as a
>> "Christian nation."
>>
>> I realize why you made the comments at a heavily-Jewish, closed-
>> door, no press allowed meeting. Their agenda is not the same as
>> our agenda. The (Jewish) Council of Presidents, an alliance of
>> the biggest and most powerful Jewish organizations in America
>> has exactly the same sentiments as you enunciated in your
>> speech. It is fanatically for open borders, free trade and of
>> course, for gun control. You are their puppet.
>>
>> You say that you are for the working people, the middle class
>> American, but in reality your biggest single campaign
>> contributor is the Jewish extremist, Goldman Sachs Corporation.
>> Those at Goldman Sachs, are the same extremists that have led
>> America to its economic and social catastrophe. They are the
>> elite of the elite of American politics and media, the heart of
>> the new 21st century American establishment. And, just like the
>> elitist crowd you addressed in San Francisco, they are people
>> not like the average White person in America, not in values,
>> heritage, or interests. Your audience itself was truly "people
>> who aren't like them."
>>
>> The American people need not explain their frustrations. They
>> have legitimate frustrations, and legitimate anger at politics
>> as usual in America.
>>
>> But, you sir, are a hypocrite, one who says he represents
>> change, but more of the same relentless attack upon the White
>> people of this country and the values and views of White
>> people. Stop trying to pretend otherwise. You, Clinton, and
>> McCain, should run for President of Israel, or Uganda, or
>> Mexico. Not one of you should get a single White American's
>> vote. You and your other two comrades for President are
>> controlled lock, stock and barrel by, as you say, "people who
>> aren't like them."
>>
>> David Duke

Dr. Duke is an intelligent man and summed that up well.


>
> Obama; arrogant mulatoo.
>
> ted
>
> http://www.stormfront.org/ Stormfront
>

HeyBub wrote:
> RT wrote:
>>> And the two they nominated before them.
>>>
>> yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where
>> would we be without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an
>> extremely poorly conceived and executed war. Too bad they can't run
>> again. Four more years and we'd all be speaking Mandarin.
>
> Surely you exaggerate.
>
> It's also possible many of us would be dying of cancer from a dirty bomb, or
> incinerated in another airplane attack, or something else. We just don't
> know what the present could have been - we only know what it is. And what it
> is is this: there have been no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as there have
> been in other countries. Luck? Maybe. Prevention? Probably.

Unlikely. You really think the TSA has done anything except piss off
the American public? If they had ever really caught a terrorist trying
to board an aircraft, they'd NEVER stop crowing about how effective they
are.


> All wars are poorly conceived and executed. About the only modern war that
> went according to plan was Gulf War I; we slaughtered thousands of the
> fuckers.

If we turned the army loose, as we did in GWI, this war WOULD have been
over in a couple of months. Armies kill people and break things; they
don't make good constables - which is what Washington has our army doing.

>
> I just read that a big contributing factor to Germany's failure in WW2 was
> Italy attacking Greece! Hitler was furious! That meant that Britan would
> assist Greece and threaten Hitler's push into Yugoslavia and southern
> Russia.
>
> The only way to get out of debt is to break the Democrat's hold on the purse
> strings.

The only way to get out of debt is to break the fedgov's hold on the
purse strings and the money printing presses, no matter who seems to be
running the government.

>
> And I don't think everybody could learn Mandarin in four years.

And at my age I'm not even going to try.

--
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952

Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian

Bama Brian wrote:
>>
>> It's also possible many of us would be dying of cancer from a dirty
>> bomb, or incinerated in another airplane attack, or something else.
>> We just don't know what the present could have been - we only know
>> what it is. And what it is is this: there have been no terrorist
>> attacks on U.S. soil as there have been in other countries. Luck?
>> Maybe. Prevention? Probably.
>
> Unlikely. You really think the TSA has done anything except piss off
> the American public? If they had ever really caught a terrorist
> trying to board an aircraft, they'd NEVER stop crowing about how
> effective they are.
>

Sure. They're good for a laugh.

For example, February last year I'm standing in line to board a Southwest
flight out of Phoenix. A dimunitive TSA agentette taps me on the arm and
says: "Excuse me sir, can I ask you to do me a favor?"

"I can't. I'm married," I reply.

(pause) (blush)

"Uh, I need you to step over there for additional, random, screening," she
says.

When I get "over there," there are four of us passengers: Me, a senior white
male, a senior black male, a young oriental lady, and a young Hispanic man.
Turning to the Hispanic guy, I say: "You know, you look more like a
terrorist than the rest of us. Be careful what you say!" This did not amuse
the TSA agent busily going through his bag. She made some smart-ass comment
about "what a terrorist looks like." I enlightened her.

This is the same airport, by the way, that, in February 2002, stopped a man
for trying to smuggle a "Ninja Star" type device on a flight. Turns out the
man was single-handedly responsible for bringing down 32 aircraft
previously, with the loss of life of all aboard! Good work, TSA!

Of course the man, 82-year old Joe Foss, was also the former governor of
South Dakota, former president of the American Football League, a retired
general in the South Dakota National Guard, and for 23 years the host of the
TV program, "The American Sportsman." He had just left a meeting of the
board of directors of the National Rifle Association and was on his way to
the United States Military Academy at West Point to deliver a guest lecture
on patriotism.

The "Ninja Star?" It was the Medal of Honor awarded to him by Franklin
Roosevelt for downing over 20 Japanese aircraft during the battle of
Guadalcanal.

Decorum constrains me from reporting what Foss said when told he'd have to
put his medal in the trash bin.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:23:24 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>RT wrote:
>>> And the two they nominated before them.
>>>
>> yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where
>> would we be without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an
>> extremely poorly conceived and executed war. Too bad they can't run
>> again. Four more years and we'd all be speaking Mandarin.
>
>Surely you exaggerate.
>
>It's also possible many of us would be dying of cancer from a dirty bomb, or
>incinerated in another airplane attack, or something else. We just don't
>know what the present could have been - we only know what it is. And what it
>is is this: there have been no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as there have
>been in other countries. Luck? Maybe. Prevention? Probably.

By all measures the failures in Iraq and Afganistan have made the world and the
US less safe. Sadam had 250,000 police to keep the peace in Baghdad, and Cheny
thought 100K was enough to run the country. Dumb. Whether or not one thinks
the unilateral invasion of Iraq was justified, that's just dumb. Bettr would
have been to take and hold Afganistan and push Osama out of Pakistan. Now
there is the very real danger of losing both. I find the thought of an Islamic
theocracy armed with nukes rather disturbing.
>
>All wars are poorly conceived and executed. About the only modern war that
>went according to plan was Gulf War I; we slaughtered thousands of the
>fuckers.

We've slaughtered 10s of 1000s. That is why we are in worse shape now. If we
could get the water, electric and gas flowing maybe we could win.
>
>I just read that a big contributing factor to Germany's failure in WW2 was
>Italy attacking Greece! Hitler was furious! That meant that Britan would
>assist Greece and threaten Hitler's push into Yugoslavia and southern
>Russia.
>
>The only way to get out of debt is to break the Democrat's hold on the purse
>strings.
>
below
>And I don't think everybody could learn Mandarin in four years.
One can learn to say "Thank you boss- may I have another!" in just a few
seconds.

>

I won't try too hard, because I know it is hopeless to communicate with those
who still pretend the Rep party is fically conservative. 7.5 trillion of our
9T deficit comes from Regan, Bush I and Bush II (responsible for 3.5 trillion
all by himself). Of the 15 Budgets submitted by the 3 Rep. presidents, only 2
were balanced. These facts are easy to check. It is a myth that the Reps are
the fiscally conservative party. They are the Cut Tax and Spend as opposed to
the Tax and Spend party. If you are going to spend, you gotta at least tax.
No fair charging the grandkids for the war.

Just today the history news network released an informal poll of historians.
"Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the
other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded
that the current presidency is the worst in the nation’s history. <look at
that- the Worst!> Another 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush
presidency in the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents
ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of American
administrations."

98.5% said the Bush presidency was a failure. 1.5% said a success. I guess I
fit with the 98.5%- He has really let us down as pres.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:31:58 -0400, "NapalmHeart" <olsonfamNOSPAM@iserv.net>
wrote:

>
>"RT" <RT-not@home.place> wrote in message
>news:jsm7045e8hgm0d4vkrcg5puautkqlfaam0@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:08 -0400, "NapalmHeart"
>> <olsonfamNOSPAM@iserv.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
>>>news:FXJMj.119896$yE1.9683@attbi_s21...
>>>>
>>>> "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke
>>>>>> > <snip>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>>>>>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>>>>>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>>>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>>>>>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>>>>> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that
>>>>> people
>>>>> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like
>>>>> them
>>>>> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>>> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bitter and frustrated, loves guns and religion. Sound so
>>>>> unfamiliar?
>>>>> And most people are, unfortunately, anti-immigrant. Even
>>>>> immigrants.
>>>>> :
>>>>> ( Obama, from my perspective, was stating facts not stating that he
>>>>> agreed with those facts or that he believes that scenario is the
>>>>> ideal. The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus
>>>>> on
>>>>> comments out of context.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The only true bitter people are the Democrats over the two fuckups
>>>> they have to choose from.
>>>>
>>>
>>>And the two they nominated before them.
>>>
>> yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where would
>> we be
>> without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an extremely
>> poorly
>> conceived and executed war. Too bad they can't run again. Four more
>> years and
>> we'd all be speaking Mandarin.
>
>Not saying that they have been great, just that they were better than
>the Democratic alternatives.
>

I've loved my country under Reps and Dems, but Bush is the worst I have ever
seen. He has really screwed the pooch. The history network just released an
informal poll in which 61% of the historians responding (not scientific but
still) rated Bush II as the WORST president ever! I honestly do not know how
anyone could have been worse in anyones opinion.

"RT" <RT-not@home.place> wrote in message
news:8g1a04d68jdcg1u2fgv5flgnoml8a4b02j@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:31:58 -0400, "NapalmHeart"
> <olsonfamNOSPAM@iserv.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"RT" <RT-not@home.place> wrote in message
>>news:jsm7045e8hgm0d4vkrcg5puautkqlfaam0@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:08 -0400, "NapalmHeart"
>>> <olsonfamNOSPAM@iserv.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:FXJMj.119896$yE1.9683@attbi_s21...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7b9cb7f7-ee75-4787-a42d-7b56f765d581@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > At a <snip> fundraiser in San Francisco, <snip> Obama spoke
>>>>>>> > <snip>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling
>>>>>>> > to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them
>>>>>>> > or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>>>>> > explain their frustrations," Mr. Obama said. (Quoted by the New
>>>>>>> > York Times, April 12, 2008)<snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People get bitter about a variety of things. People are frustrated
>>>>>> over a variety of things as well. So what if Obama stated that
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to
>>>>>> explain their frustrations."? Big whoop. Isn't it true?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bitter and frustrated, loves guns and religion. Sound so
>>>>>> unfamiliar?
>>>>>> And most people are, unfortunately, anti-immigrant. Even
>>>>>> immigrants.
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> ( Obama, from my perspective, was stating facts not stating that he
>>>>>> agreed with those facts or that he believes that scenario is the
>>>>>> ideal. The media loves to blow things out of proportion and focus
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> comments out of context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The only true bitter people are the Democrats over the two fuckups
>>>>> they have to choose from.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And the two they nominated before them.
>>>>
>>> yeah- we're so freaking lucky to have had Bush and Cheny. Where would
>>> we be
>>> without them? Oh yeah, out of debt and not bogged in an extremely
>>> poorly
>>> conceived and executed war. Too bad they can't run again. Four more
>>> years and
>>> we'd all be speaking Mandarin.
>>
>>Not saying that they have been great, just that they were better than
>>the Democratic alternatives.
>>
>
> I've loved my country under Reps and Dems, but Bush is the worst I have
> ever
> seen. He has really screwed the pooch. The history network just released
> an
> informal poll in which 61% of the historians responding (not scientific
> but
> still) rated Bush II as the WORST president ever! I honestly do not know
> how
> anyone could have been worse in anyones opinion.
>

Which has what to do with tx.guns, you cross posting imbecile?

RT wrote:
>
> I won't try too hard, because I know it is hopeless to communicate
> with those who still pretend the Rep party is fically conservative.
> 7.5 trillion of our 9T deficit comes from Regan, Bush I and Bush II
> (responsible for 3.5 trillion all by himself). Of the 15 Budgets
> submitted by the 3 Rep. presidents, only 2 were balanced. These
> facts are easy to check. It is a myth that the Reps are the fiscally
> conservative party. They are the Cut Tax and Spend as opposed to the
> Tax and Spend party. If you are going to spend, you gotta at least
> tax. No fair charging the grandkids for the war.

You say that like you think debt is a bad thing. Debt is good.

>
> Just today the history news network released an informal poll of
> historians. "Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in
> comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61
> percent of the historians concluded that the current presidency is
> the worst in the nation's history. <look at that- the Worst!> Another
> 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush presidency in
> the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents
> ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of
> American administrations."
>
> 98.5% said the Bush presidency was a failure. 1.5% said a success.
> I guess I fit with the 98.5%- He has really let us down as pres.

When you can't make a case on your own, you appeal to authority. Bah.

RT wrote:
>
> I've loved my country under Reps and Dems, but Bush is the worst I
> have ever seen. He has really screwed the pooch. The history
> network just released an informal poll in which 61% of the historians
> responding (not scientific but still) rated Bush II as the WORST
> president ever! I honestly do not know how anyone could have been
> worse in anyones opinion.

I think you missed something. It was almost 100%.

Which says more about history professors than it does about Bush.

I suspect they're jealous. After all, Bush majored in history. The history
professors are probably all saying "If only I'd applied myself..."

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:14:28 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:

>RT wrote:
>>
>> I've loved my country under Reps and Dems, but Bush is the worst I
>> have ever seen. He has really screwed the pooch. The history
>> network just released an informal poll in which 61% of the historians
>> responding (not scientific but still) rated Bush II as the WORST
>> president ever! I honestly do not know how anyone could have been
>> worse in anyones opinion.
>
>I think you missed something. It was almost 100%.
>
>Which says more about history professors than it does about Bush.
>
>I suspect they're jealous. After all, Bush majored in history. The history
>professors are probably all saying "If only I'd applied myself..."
>
You don't think they would limit the "survey" to "ivy league" schools
where 99% of the faculty are screaming communists do you?