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Old 07-16-2008, 07:57 PM
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On Jul 16, 10:01*am, Sordo* <*so...@privacy.net> wrote:
> *July 16, 2008, 6:14AM
> U.S. ban on visitors with HIV could be repealed soon
>
> By JIM ABRAMS
> Associated Press
>
> WASHINGTON — A two-decade ban on people with HIV visiting or immigrating
> to the United States may end soon through a Senate bill aimed at
> fighting AIDS and other diseases in Africa and other poor areas of the
> world.
>
> The U.S. is one of a dozen countries — including Sudan, Saudi Arabia,
> Libya and Russia — that ban travel and immigration for HIV-positive
> people.
>
> Even China, said Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., recently changed that policy,
> deciding it was "time to move beyond an antiquated, knee-jerk reaction"
> to people with HIV.
>
> "There's no excuse for a law that stigmatizes a particular disease,"
> Kerry said Tuesday at a speech to the Center for Strategic &
> International Studies HIV/AIDS Task Force. Even people with avian flu or
> the Ebola virus have an easier time than those with HIV when it come to
> applying for visas, he said.
>
> Kerry and Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., are trying to repeal the ban, first
> implemented in 1987 and confirmed by Congress in 1993. The two have
> attached their measure to legislation — which the Senate may pass this
> week — that would provide $50 billion over the next five years to fight
> AIDS and other diseases in Africa and other poor areas.
>
> Foreign citizens, students and tourists can apply for a
> difficult-to-obtain special waiver for short-term visits, but an
> HIV-positive person has little chance of obtaining permanent residency.
>
> Under current law, HIV is the only medical condition explicitly listed
> under immigration law. The Kerry-Smith provision would make HIV
> equivalent to other communicable diseases where medical and public
> health experts at the Health and Human Services Department — not
> consular officials at U.S. embassies — determine eligibility for
> admission.
>
> Those with HIV seeking legal permanent residency would still have to
> demonstrate they have the resources to live in this country and would
> not become a "public charge."
>
> The HIV ban was "adopted during a time of widespread fear and ignorance
> about the HIV virus," said Allison Herwitt, legislative director of the
> Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay and lesbian civil rights
> group.
>
> Among the consequences, experts on HIV and AIDS who are themselves
> infected have been unable to attend conferences in the U.S. Students and
> refugees in the country who may be at risk of infection have been
> reluctant to seek testing or treatment.
>
> "Health care professionals, researchers and other exceptionally talented
> people have been blocked from the United States," some 160 health and
> AIDS groups said recently in a letter urging Congress to end the current
> policy. "Since 1993, the International Conference on AIDS has not been
> held on U.S. soil due to this policy."
>
> Herwitt said some HIV-positive people seeking visas lie on their
> applications and then don't bring their medications. "It's not only
> wrongheaded and discriminatory, but can also cause people to not tell
> the truth."
>
> Both President George H.W. Bush and President Clinton sought to ease the
> policy and in 2006 the current President Bush asked the Homeland
> Security Department to streamline the waiver process. Congress so far
> has not gone along.
>
> There's still opposition.
>
> Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., may offer an amendment to eliminate the
> Kerry-Smith provision from the Senate bill. Sessions cited Congressional
> Budget Office estimates that the new immigrants coming in under the
> relaxed policy could cost the government more than $80 million over a
> 10-year period. "Most people just don't want to talk about that."
>
> Sessions said the Health and Human Services Department already has
> considerable flexibility to grant entry visas.
>
> The measure would offset the costs of new immigrants by raising the
> price of applying for a visitor's visa by $1 for three years and then $2
> for the next five years.
>
> The House version of the Africa AIDS bill does not have the travel and
> immigration provision, but advocates said it will be included in the
> final version of the bill that goes to the president.
>
> Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., is sponsoring companion legislation in the
> House.
>
> The Africa AIDS bill is S. 2731.


In the interest of promoting diversity I demand that persons having
cholera, bubonic plague, and
smallpox be allowed into America.

mitch

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Old 07-17-2008, 04:05 AM
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In the interest of promoting diversity I demand that persons having
cholera, bubonic plague, and
smallpox be allowed into America.

mitch


In the public interest of you being a retard, let's differentiate the
difference between AIDS and the above mentioned diseases.

Smallpox is spread around by infected fluids coming from an infected
individual. (The spray from someone SNEEZING can spread this disease.)
http://skin-care.health-cares.net/smallpox-spread.php

Cholera is spread by either water or food.
http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/cholera.html

Bubonic plague is spread by rats, squirrels, and other small rodents.
http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/bub...e/a/111602.htm

The Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV), also known as the virus that causes
AIDS, (Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome) is spread by SEX or BLOOD.
http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/tips/spread.html

In other words, your disease quotes are much more easily spread than the
whole AIDS thing.
Your comment makes you look not only uneducated, but arrogant, panicky, and
just plain stupid.
While you're at it, why don't you write a law that exterminates all variants
of rodents: mice, rats, skunks, squirrels, and all of their red-headed
stepchildren need to DIE. (That includes your pet gerbils.)

MITCH IS A DUMBASS!!!


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Old 07-22-2008, 02:05 AM
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:34:47 -0600, "Mr. Albritton"
<albritton77@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In the interest of promoting diversity I demand that persons having
>cholera, bubonic plague, and
>smallpox be allowed into America.
>
>mitch
>
>
>In the public interest of you being a retard, let's differentiate the
>difference between AIDS and the above mentioned diseases.
>
>Smallpox is spread around by infected fluids coming from an infected
>individual. (The spray from someone SNEEZING can spread this disease.)
>http://skin-care.health-cares.net/smallpox-spread.php
>
>Cholera is spread by either water or food.
>http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net/cholera.html
>
>Bubonic plague is spread by rats, squirrels, and other small rodents.
>http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/bub...e/a/111602.htm
>
>The Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV), also known as the virus that causes
>AIDS, (Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome) is spread by SEX or BLOOD.
>http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/tips/spread.html
>
>In other words, your disease quotes are much more easily spread than the
>whole AIDS thing.
>Your comment makes you look not only uneducated, but arrogant, panicky, and
>just plain stupid.
>While you're at it, why don't you write a law that exterminates all variants
>of rodents: mice, rats, skunks, squirrels, and all of their red-headed
>stepchildren need to DIE. (That includes your pet gerbils.)
>
>MITCH IS A DUMBASS!!!
>

The question is why let any of these disease bearers into America? Who
pays for their treatments? AIDS simply has a differant path. Does
that negate the health potential? The possible costs to taxpayers? And
judging by your rambling comments one could inquire as your
medications, or lack of same.

mitch
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