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Old 06-12-2008, 06:34 PM
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:28:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
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>Posted: December 12, 2006
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>Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story:
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>Soy is making kids 'gay'
>There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children
>and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a
>"health food," one of our most popular.
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>Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into
>his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll
>know I'm not anti-health food.
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I've heard that soy protein should not be ingested by males. Any truth
to that position?

ted
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:58 AM
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On Jun 12, 10:14*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote: I've heard that soy
protein should not be ingested by males. Any truth to that position?
<<

It may **protect** you from brain disease.
The gayness question is theoretical.
They have shown precursers to these hormones and so they say they'll
turn you gay.
Whereas the study below shows these precursers should seem to work
just like Genistein has been shown to work .. deep in the mitochondria
of the cell.

Brain Res Rev. 2008 Mar;57(2):421-30. Epub 2007 Apr 27.
Mitochondrial mechanisms of estrogen neuroprotection.
Simpkins JW, Dykens JA.
Department of Pharmacology and Neuroscience, Institute for Aging and
Alzheimer's Disease Research, University of North Texas Health Science
Center, 3500 Camp Bowie Boul., Fort Worth, TX 76102, USA.
jsimpkin@hsc.unt.edu

Oxidative stress, bioenergetic failure and mitochondrial dysfunction
are all implicated in the etiology of neurodegenerative diseases such
as Alzheimer's disease (AD).
The mitochondrial involvement in neurodegenerative diseases reflects
the regulatory role mitochondrial failure plays in both necrotic cell
death and apoptosis.
The potent feminizing hormone, 17 beta-estradiol (E2), is
neuroprotective in a host of cell and animal models of stroke and
neurodegenerative diseases.
The discovery that 17alpha-estradiol, an isomer of E2, is equally as
neuroprotective as E2 yet is >200-fold less active as a hormone, has
permitted development of novel, more potent analogs where
neuroprotection is independent of hormonal potency.
Studies of structure-activity relationships and mitochondrial function
have led to a mechanistic model in which these steroidal phenols
intercalate into cell membranes where they block lipid peroxidation
reactions, and are in turn recycled. Indeed, the parental estrogens
and novel analogs stabilize mitochondria under Ca(2+) loading
otherwise sufficient to collapse membrane potential.
The neuroprotective and mitoprotective potencies for a series of
estrogen analogs are significantly correlated, suggesting that these
compounds prevent cell death in large measure by maintaining
functionally intact mitochondria.
This therapeutic strategy is germane not only to sudden mitochondrial
failure in acute circumstances, such as during a stroke or myocardial
infarction, but also to gradual mitochondrial dysfunction associated
with chronic degenerative disorders such as AD.
---------------------------

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> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:28:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur" <A...@Arthurian.com>
> wrote:
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> >You admire WorldNet News?

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> >"American Patriot." <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:ddf2e96f-a174-4a68-b5f7-b992028f25af@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=52335

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> >Soy is making kids 'gay'

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> >Posted: December 12, 2006
> >1:00 am Eastern

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> >© 2008

>
> >Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story:

>
> >Soy is making kids 'gay'
> >There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children
> >and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a
> >"health food," one of our most popular.

>
> >Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into
> >his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll
> >know I'm not anti-health food.

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> I've heard that soy protein should not be ingested by males. Any truth
> to *that position?
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:58 AM
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On Jun 14, 7:55Â*pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:genistein

"Phytoestrogens like genistein prevent the formation of oxidants by
mitochondria"

http://www.j-alz.com/issues/11/vol11-2.html

Mitochondrial oxidant signalling in Alzheimer’s disease

Jose Viña, Ana Lloret, Soraya L. Vallés, Consuelo Borrás, Mari-Carmen
BadÃ*a, Federico V. Pallardó, Juan Sastre, Maria-Dolores Alonso
Absract:
The role of free radicals in Alzheimer disease pathophysiology has
been appreciated for a long time.
Originally, radicals were considered as causative of oxidative damage.
More recently their role as signalling molecules in this, as well as
in other fields of free radical biology, has been underscored.
Mitochondria are both generators and targets of radical damage in
aging.
In this paper we review evidence that radicals generated in
mitochondria in the presence of Aβ are signals that trigger both the
mitochondrial and the extra-mitochondrial pathways of apoptosis.
There are gender specific differences in mitochondrial Aβ toxicity:
mitochondria from young (but not from old) females appear to be
protected.
17-β Estradiol or phytoestrogens like genistein prevent the formation
of oxidants by mitochondria and protect against mitochondrial Aβ
toxicity.
Experiments reported here indicate that phytoestrogens might have a
role in the prevention of Alzheimer’s disease.


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Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk



> On Jun 12, 10:14Â*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote: I've heard that soy
> protein should not be ingested by males. Any truth to Â*that position?
> <<
>
> It may **protect** you from brain disease.
> The gayness question is theoretical.
> They have shown precursers to these hormones and so they say they'll
> turn you gay.
> Whereas the study below shows these precursers should seem to work
> just like Genistein has been shown to work .. deep in the mitochondria
> of the cell.
>
> Brain Res Rev. 2008 Mar;57(2):421-30. Epub 2007 Apr 27.
> Mitochondrial mechanisms of estrogen neuroprotection.
> Simpkins JW, Dykens JA.
> Department of Pharmacology and Neuroscience, Institute for Aging and
> Alzheimer's Disease Research, University of North Texas Health Science
> Center, 3500 Camp Bowie Boul., Fort Worth, TX 76102, USA.
> jsimp...@hsc.unt.edu
>
> Oxidative stress, bioenergetic failure and mitochondrial dysfunction
> are all implicated in the etiology of neurodegenerative diseases such
> as Alzheimer's disease (AD).
> The mitochondrial involvement in neurodegenerative diseases reflects
> the regulatory role mitochondrial failure plays in both necrotic cell
> death and apoptosis.
> The potent feminizing hormone, 17 beta-estradiol (E2), is
> neuroprotective in a host of cell and animal models of stroke and
> neurodegenerative diseases.
> The discovery that 17alpha-estradiol, an isomer of E2, is equally as
> neuroprotective as E2 yet is >200-fold less active as a hormone, has
> permitted development of novel, more potent analogs where
> neuroprotection is independent of hormonal potency.
> Studies of structure-activity relationships and mitochondrial function
> have led to a mechanistic model in which these steroidal phenols
> intercalate into cell membranes where they block lipid peroxidation
> reactions, and are in turn recycled. Indeed, the parental estrogens
> and novel analogs stabilize mitochondria under Ca(2+) loading
> otherwise sufficient to collapse membrane potential.
> The neuroprotective and mitoprotective potencies for a series of
> estrogen analogs are significantly correlated, suggesting that these
> compounds prevent cell death in large measure by maintaining
> functionally intact mitochondria.
> This therapeutic strategy is germane not only to sudden mitochondrial
> failure in acute circumstances, such as during a stroke or myocardial
> infarction, but also to gradual mitochondrial dysfunction associated
> with chronic degenerative disorders such as AD.
> ---------------------------
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
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> > On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:28:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur" <A...@Arthurian.com>
> > wrote:

>
> > >You admire WorldNet News?

>
> > >"American Patriot." <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:ddf2e96f-a174-4a68-b5f7-b992028f25af@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com....
> > >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=52335

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> > >Soy is making kids 'gay'

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> > >Posted: December 12, 2006
> > >1:00 am Eastern

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> > >© 2008

>
> > >Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story:

>
> > >Soy is making kids 'gay'
> > >There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children
> > >and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a
> > >"health food," one of our most popular.

>
> > >Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into
> > >his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll
> > >know I'm not anti-health food.

>
> > I've heard that soy protein should not be ingested by males. Any truth
> > to Â*that position?

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