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05-26-2007, 04:26 AM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On May 24, 10:26 pm, phantomK...@webtv.net (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:
> The Time To Act Is Now !
>
> I don't know how many of the readers here have read the TURNER DIARIES,
> (I myself have). But more and more as I read and watch and witness what
> is going on all around this country we all live in it actually evokes
> memories and somewhat reminds me of that landmark book .
>
> Also, fellow White Patriots- think about it please. If voting changed
> anything they really would have made it illegal already!
>
> Don't we all know by now that the democrats screw us from the left and
> the republicans screw us from the right ?!! All the while the Zionists,
> AIPAC, etc. have both camps doing their bidding either way . Whoever
> does not know this has not yet awakened to the madness or is just
> incredibly naive !
>
> I don't know how much thought the average White patriot gives to the
> situation in our nation and other once White nations, but I can see
> clearly that the RACE WAR started a long time ago and is going on
> constantly all around us .
>
> It's a guerilla war of sorts . This war is much more evident in the more
> urban areas of the U.S. to be sure, but the war is becoming more in
> focus all across this land everyday !
>
> For example, When 20,000 to 30,000 white women are RAPED by blacks every
> year on average , that's a RACE WAR !
>
> When Blacks and Mestizoes dominate and consistently run up an epidemic
> of nationwide Hate Crimes against Whites- namely assault, murder &
> robbery year after year , that's a RACE WAR!
>
> We now have to endure regular bloodbaths in the various heartlands of
> America perpetrated (of course) by the usual black savages!
>
> We all know about WACO and RUBY RIDGE courtesy of Uncle Sam's
> goons, but I wonder how many of the readers know of The Wichita Massacre
> ? Or The Labor Day Massacre, or the other numeorus black on white
> rampages ? ( Just look those last 2 up by name on google or any
> alternative White news site if you don't know or don't remember .)
>
> Why, It's only April as I write this piece and we already have had
> no less than a 2 family slaughter in suburban Virginia earlier this year
> ! This one even involved the vicious massacre of innocent little white
> children with their mother and father included in the blood bath !
>
> Sadly, and tragically of course it will only get worse! The epidemic of
> crime against Whites will only stop when we collectively band together
> as a people and decide to do something about it ! The time it could be
> changed peacefully is long over .
>
> I recall reading where the U.S. census reported that American WHITES
> were roughly 67% of the U.S. pop 5 years ago . Well when you consider
> the increase of 'Beaners' , and other non Whites and that there is no
> standard for measuring who really is White ... what are we really in
> 2006 ??? 60% ? maybe? This country is already polarized and shifting
> more and more all over!
>
> Over 10,000 criminal mestizoes from Mexico and Central & South America
> pour into our country every day. The illegals alone now number 20 to 30
> MILLION , and what do our "LEADERS" in Washington want to do about it
> ??? GIVE THEM AMNESTY and MORE RIGHTS and PRIVELAGES !!!
>
> I was watching 'kosher conservative' commentator Bill O'Reilly's show
> recently, and I myself was even stunned as he reported just last week
> that the school age population in our TOP 30 largest U.S. cities already
> listed Non-Whites in the MAJORITY ! That's the TOP 30 largest cities in
> America !!!
>
> Of course White America and White Flight have the true White fore
> fathers of this land holding down a strong majority in much of the
> U.S.'s little country towns and more rural and remote regions. I believe
> they coined it " Fly Over country " during the 2004 election .
>
> When,- my fellow White Patriots are we really collectively going to
> stand up and FIGHT and UNITE ; really ???? When it's too late ??? When
> we literally ARE a minority all over !!!??? Don't you know We already
> ARE the MINORITY in the nation's two most populous states - CALIFORNIA
> and TEXAS ! As well as New Mexico and D.C.! Already I can just feel FLA,
> ILL, and N.Y. creeping up to be next !
>
> How many more states have got to fall ??? And they WILL fall and soon
> I'm sorry to say.
>
> The TIME is NOW White Patriots ! Unite ! Protest ! Stand Up, Speak out !
> Get active ! Educate,Communicate, write , march , and FIGHT !
>
> I remember well the great Dr. William Pierce stating more than once : "
> well, It's going to be a long and bloody WAR!
> Don't hesitate and make it any worse .
> STAND UP NOW !
>
> -- Whitey Loughmiller
>
> "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate , tireless
> minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. " --
> Samuel Adams
>
> " George W. Bush is so pro-Mexico that if you hit him with a stick
> prizes would fall out of him. "
> --Argus Hamilton
>
> "If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
> If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
> If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
> -- Polydoros
>
> "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice. It is not
> a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved . "
> -- William Jennings Bryan
> http://www.HalTurnerShow.comwww.NatV...ww.WvWnews.net
An interesting post reflecting the increasing anger in America's White
population.
ted | 
05-26-2007, 04:26 AM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On May 25, 2:01 pm, Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> An interesting post reflecting the increasing anger in America's White
> population.
>
> ted
An angry white man is a real loser. If a white man can't make it in a
white country, he's a total loser, simple as that. | 
05-26-2007, 04:26 AM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On 25 May 2007 12:01:53 -0700, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>On May 25, 2:01 pm, Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> An interesting post reflecting the increasing anger in America's White
>> population.
>>
>> ted
>
>
>
>An angry white man is a real loser. If a white man can't make it in a
>white country, he's a total loser, simple as that.
>
Problem is it isn't a "White Country". Go look up your statistics,
white males are currently a minority in the overall US population.
--
"On a hot summer night, would you offer your
throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
"Yes."
"I bet you say that to all the boys! | 
05-26-2007, 04:26 AM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On May 25, 6:38 pm, The Wolf With the Red Roses <W...@Red.com> wrote:
> On 25 May 2007 12:01:53 -0700, Prisoner at War
> <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
> >On May 25, 2:01 pm, Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> An interesting post reflecting the increasing anger in America's White
> >> population.
>
> >> ted
>
> >An angry white man is a real loser. If a white man can't make it in a
> >white country, he's a total loser, simple as that.
>
> Problem is it isn't a "White Country". Go look up your statistics,
> white males are currently a minority in the overall US population.
> --
>
> "On a hot summer night, would you offer your
> throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> "I bet you say that to all the boys!
Why is this even important? | 
05-26-2007, 09:56 AM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On May 25, 10:25 pm, Paul Harvey <Get...@TheFitConnection.com> wrote:
>
>
> Why is this even important?
Well, we're all human after all, creatures of habit, and do not like
having our world turned upside-down.
I'm not white myself, but I do sympathize with folks who grew up in
one world, and then find themselves in another. Rather like the
immigrant experience, actually! | 
05-26-2007, 09:56 AM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On May 25, 9:38 pm, The Wolf With the Red Roses <W...@Red.com> wrote:
>
>
> Problem is it isn't a "White Country". Go look up your statistics,
> white males are currently a minority in the overall US population.
How in carnation can you say that -- whites will remain the majority
into 2050, IIRC. They are like 70% right now; pretty substantial.
It ain't as easy as it used to be, sure; but being white will still
get you the benefit of the doubt in the U.S., whereas minorities
naturally have to work harder.
In any case, it's pretty much a done deal right now. Even if the
immigrant spigot is cut off totally right this minute somehow, you've
still got millions here breeding like rabbits. And we all know that
those millions who have been breeding all these years are the ones
who've got both Rats and Repugs by the balls. Put it this way: the
Army's long been running Spanish-language ads.
You think they might know something you don't?
> --
>
> "On a hot summer night, would you offer your
> throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> "I bet you say that to all the boys! | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On 25 May 2007 22:58:17 -0700, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>On May 25, 10:25 pm, Paul Harvey <Get...@TheFitConnection.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why is this even important?
>
>
>Well, we're all human after all, creatures of habit, and do not like
>having our world turned upside-down.
>
>I'm not white myself, but I do sympathize with folks who grew up in
>one world, and then find themselves in another. Rather like the
>immigrant experience, actually!
>
It isn't even that so much, but a swing from one erroneous way of
doing things to another. It is every bit as wrong to treat someone in
a special manner because of their Race, Color Creed, etc as it is to
treat them poorly. However, one can do whatever they want in a
negative manner towards a White Male, especially discriminate in the
workplace -- and nothing can be done about it.
It isn't what you are, but what you are able to do that should be the
important thing.
--
"On a hot summer night, would you offer your
throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
"Yes."
"I bet you say that to all the boys! | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On 25 May 2007 23:07:30 -0700, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>On May 25, 9:38 pm, The Wolf With the Red Roses <W...@Red.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Problem is it isn't a "White Country". Go look up your statistics,
>> white males are currently a minority in the overall US population.
>
>How in carnation can you say that -- whites will remain the majority
>into 2050, IIRC. They are like 70% right now; pretty substantial.
>
Overall in Caucasians, but the female segment of that number is
greater then the male. I think the current #'s are 52% & 48%.
>It ain't as easy as it used to be, sure; but being white will still
>get you the benefit of the doubt in the U.S., whereas minorities
>naturally have to work harder.
>
Actually more & more the reverse is true. Perhaps because of their
environment their opportunities they are more limited and they may
have to work harder to escape it, but once out & in the professional
workplace they are looked upon more frequently & favorably for
promotion. In many cases not based on ability, but simply because of
what they are.
>In any case, it's pretty much a done deal right now. Even if the
>immigrant spigot is cut off totally right this minute somehow, you've
>still got millions here breeding like rabbits. And we all know that
>those millions who have been breeding all these years are the ones
>who've got both Rats and Repugs by the balls. Put it this way: the
>Army's long been running Spanish-language ads.
>
I don't get the entire so-called immigration debate as it is really
nothing other then a version of racism directed at Hispanics
primarily. We are after all a nation of freakin immigrants -- most
somewhere in their past "illegal" as well. The term "WOP" used in a
derogatory manner against Italians actually stood for "With Out
Papers".
Anyone who wants to do a stint in our Armed Forces as a gateway to
citizenship should be welcomed with open arms unless we decide to go
back to some version of a draft.
>You think they might know something you don't?
>
Actually I think they know something you don't. The average American
doesn't even care enough about his/her own country to be willing to
serve in its Armed Forces.
--
"On a hot summer night, would you offer your
throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
"Yes."
"I bet you say that to all the boys! | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On May 25, 10:58 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On May 25, 10:25 pm, Paul Harvey <Get...@TheFitConnection.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Why is this even important?
>
> Well, we're all human after all, creatures of habit, and do not like
> having our world turned upside-down.
>
> I'm not white myself, but I do sympathize with folks who grew up in
> one world, and then find themselves in another. Rather like the
> immigrant experience, actually!
Maybe I'm just an alien pod, but I don't feel uncomfortable just
because there are people of other races around me.
America, after all, is a melting pot. No just for white Europeans,
but for all races. If you have issues with people of other races,
you've got serious issues. | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - Whites are no longer the majority in California; it was on all the news
outlets that we had passed the threshold, in March as I recall.
The big issue is that in the past the immigrants worked hard to become
Americans, now the immigrants don't want to learn English, the culture,
the Constitution, etc. No more melting pot; more like like mixing bacon
and eggs, no matter how hard you stir, they still look and act different.
The Wolf With the Red Roses wrote:
>On 25 May 2007 23:07:30 -0700, Prisoner at War
><prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
>
>
>>On May 25, 9:38 pm, The Wolf With the Red Roses <W...@Red.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Problem is it isn't a "White Country". Go look up your statistics,
>>>white males are currently a minority in the overall US population.
>>>
>>>
>>How in carnation can you say that -- whites will remain the majority
>>into 2050, IIRC. They are like 70% right now; pretty substantial.
>>
>>
>>
>Overall in Caucasians, but the female segment of that number is
>greater then the male. I think the current #'s are 52% & 48%.
>
>
>
>>It ain't as easy as it used to be, sure; but being white will still
>>get you the benefit of the doubt in the U.S., whereas minorities
>>naturally have to work harder.
>>
>>
>>
>Actually more & more the reverse is true. Perhaps because of their
>environment their opportunities they are more limited and they may
>have to work harder to escape it, but once out & in the professional
>workplace they are looked upon more frequently & favorably for
>promotion. In many cases not based on ability, but simply because of
>what they are.
>
>
>
>>In any case, it's pretty much a done deal right now. Even if the
>>immigrant spigot is cut off totally right this minute somehow, you've
>>still got millions here breeding like rabbits. And we all know that
>>those millions who have been breeding all these years are the ones
>>who've got both Rats and Repugs by the balls. Put it this way: the
>>Army's long been running Spanish-language ads.
>>
>>
>>
>I don't get the entire so-called immigration debate as it is really
>nothing other then a version of racism directed at Hispanics
>primarily. We are after all a nation of freakin immigrants -- most
>somewhere in their past "illegal" as well. The term "WOP" used in a
>derogatory manner against Italians actually stood for "With Out
>Papers".
>
>Anyone who wants to do a stint in our Armed Forces as a gateway to
>citizenship should be welcomed with open arms unless we decide to go
>back to some version of a draft.
>
>
>
>>You think they might know something you don't?
>>
>>
>>
>Actually I think they know something you don't. The average American
>doesn't even care enough about his/her own country to be willing to
>serve in its Armed Forces.
>
> | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now -
"Robert Ball" <rwballca@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:UM6dnS6GWO92k8TbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Whites are no longer the majority in California; it was on all the news
> outlets that we had passed the threshold, in March as I recall.
>
> The big issue is that in the past the immigrants worked hard to become
> Americans, now the immigrants don't want to learn English, the culture, the
> Constitution, etc. No more melting pot; more like like mixing bacon and eggs,
> no matter how hard you stir, they still look and act different.
>
Really? To me it seems we're reaping the wind. Serves us arrogant, selfish
religious bigots right. So fuck you and all your ilk YOU are half of what is
wrong in this cuntry you thing headed nebbish. I can recall when an Irishman or
woman couldn't get work in this country. It's the cult of Jesus that is the
other half of the problem. The only thing a person should have faith in is the 3
laws of thermodynamics and entropy. All else is just some stupid cunts attempt
to control you... I ain't no puppet and I gots no strings...I believe in my
brothers and sisters and NOT in people like you. So do me a favour and kill
yourself and your entire family, because genes like yours ought not be passed on
to the rest of the species which will get by just nicely without you.
You are a closet aryan supremist and not worthy of these few
electrons...something a hateful racist like you can't even picture how electrons
really function.
--
Sgt. Schiffner 1st CAV
A liar begins with making falsehood appear like truth, and ends with making
truth itself appear like falsehood. | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:17:01 -0600, "Keith Schiffner"
<schistan@bresnan.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
>"Robert Ball" <rwballca@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:UM6dnS6GWO92k8TbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> Whites are no longer the majority in California; it was on all the news
>> outlets that we had passed the threshold, in March as I recall.
>>
>> The big issue is that in the past the immigrants worked hard to become
>> Americans, now the immigrants don't want to learn English, the culture, the
>> Constitution, etc. No more melting pot; more like like mixing bacon and eggs,
>> no matter how hard you stir, they still look and act different.
>>
>
>Really? To me it seems we're reaping the wind. Serves us arrogant, selfish
>religious bigots right. So fuck you and all your ilk YOU are half of what is
>wrong in this cuntry you thing headed nebbish. I can recall when an Irishman or
>woman couldn't get work in this country. It's the cult of Jesus that is the
>other half of the problem. The only thing a person should have faith in is the 3
>laws of thermodynamics and entropy. All else is just some stupid cunts attempt
>to control you... I ain't no puppet and I gots no strings...I believe in my
>brothers and sisters and NOT in people like you. So do me a favour and kill
>yourself and your entire family, because genes like yours ought not be passed on
>to the rest of the species which will get by just nicely without you.
>You are a closet aryan supremist and not worthy of these few
>electrons...something a hateful racist like you can't even picture how electrons
>really function.
>
And you claim to be the voice of reason?
--
"On a hot summer night, would you offer your
throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
"Yes."
"I bet you say that to all the boys! | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On Sat, 26 May 2007 21:56:41 -0700, Robert Ball <rwballca@comcast.net>
wrote something wonderfully witty:
>Whites are no longer the majority in California; it was on all the news
>outlets that we had passed the threshold, in March as I recall.
>
>The big issue is that in the past the immigrants worked hard to become
>Americans, now the immigrants don't want to learn English, the culture,
>the Constitution, etc. No more melting pot; more like like mixing bacon
>and eggs, no matter how hard you stir, they still look and act different.
>
Part, and only part, of the reason is the current wave of immigrants
aren't european so that don't melt all that easy, nor can then blend
as easily as they once did. However, in every wave of immigration a
version of this debate has happened over & over.
Almost any group I can think of was rather clannish among first
generation immigration. There are still rather large enclaves of
certain european based immigrants, such as the Irish in Boston, or
Italians in NY.
As their children go through our schools systems, become Americanized,
develop a larger & more diverse group of friends, these issues begin
to fade & the parents lament the loss of traditions among their
children.
Now illegal aliens from the aspect of performing all the duties of a
citizen -- paying taxes, serving in the military, hell even voting can
become a problem. However, they are not the "Big" issue many people
want to make of them from a political platform standpoint. It is more
of a racist attitude towards Hispanics -- specifically Mexicans which
makes for good air-play come election time. After all no
"Joe-Average" American wants to pay $10 a head of lettuce or spend the
day stooped over in a field.
--
"On a hot summer night, would you offer your
throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
"Yes."
"I bet you say that to all the boys! | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now -
"Robert Ball" <rwballca@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:UM6dnS6GWO92k8TbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Whites are no longer the majority in California; it was on all the news
>> outlets that we had passed the threshold, in March as I recall.
>>
>> The big issue is that in the past the immigrants worked hard to become
>> Americans, now the immigrants don't want to learn English, the
culture, the
>> Constitution, etc. No more melting pot; more like like mixing bacon
and eggs,
>> no matter how hard you stir, they still look and act different.
Keith Schiffner wrote:
> Really? To me it seems we're reaping the wind. Serves us arrogant, selfish
> religious bigots right. So fuck you and all your ilk YOU are half of what is
> wrong in this cuntry you thing headed nebbish. I can recall when an Irishman or
> woman couldn't get work in this country. It's the cult of Jesus that is the
> other half of the problem. The only thing a person should have faith in is the 3
> laws of thermodynamics and entropy. All else is just some stupid cunts attempt
> to control you... I ain't no puppet and I gots no strings...I believe in my
> brothers and sisters and NOT in people like you. So do me a favour and kill
> yourself and your entire family, because genes like yours ought not be passed on
> to the rest of the species which will get by just nicely without you.
> You are a closet aryan supremist and not worthy of these few
> electrons...something a hateful racist like you can't even picture how electrons
> really function.
You can recall when an Irishman or woman couldn't get work in this
country? What are you , 150 years old? Tell me how this stupid rant
makes you anything other than an intolerant prick, just like the aryan
supremists and racists you claim to despise? Why is it wrong to expect a
group to assimilate somewhat into the culture they are living in? Now,
the idea of a melting pot is wrong. We've never been a melting pot, and
never will be. More of a stew pot, with the carrots, and onions and
potatoes and meat all providing their own unique flavor, but we all have
the roux in common. Not a perfect analogy, but close enough for a
hungover sunday. Now I'm going riding before the monsoons close in. Have
a lovely Memorial Day. | 
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now -
"The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf@Red.com> wrote in message
news:ffci539ms9ooep5eljml2fqskcb8ft5bmo@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:17:01 -0600, "Keith Schiffner"
> <schistan@bresnan.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
>>
>>"Robert Ball" <rwballca@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:UM6dnS6GWO92k8TbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>> Whites are no longer the majority in California; it was on all the news
>>> outlets that we had passed the threshold, in March as I recall.
>>>
>>> The big issue is that in the past the immigrants worked hard to become
>>> Americans, now the immigrants don't want to learn English, the culture, the
>>> Constitution, etc. No more melting pot; more like like mixing bacon and
>>> eggs,
>>> no matter how hard you stir, they still look and act different.
>>>
>>
>>Really? To me it seems we're reaping the wind. Serves us arrogant, selfish
>>religious bigots right. So fuck you and all your ilk YOU are half of what is
>>wrong in this cuntry you thing headed nebbish. I can recall when an Irishman
>>or
>>woman couldn't get work in this country. It's the cult of Jesus that is the
>>other half of the problem. The only thing a person should have faith in is the
>>3
>>laws of thermodynamics and entropy. All else is just some stupid cunts attempt
>>to control you... I ain't no puppet and I gots no strings...I believe in my
>>brothers and sisters and NOT in people like you. So do me a favour and kill
>>yourself and your entire family, because genes like yours ought not be passed
>>on
>>to the rest of the species which will get by just nicely without you.
>>You are a closet aryan supremist and not worthy of these few
>>electrons...something a hateful racist like you can't even picture how
>>electrons
>>really function.
>>
> And you claim to be the voice of reason?
Indeed, I say what I think on subjects like this instead of making them happen.
That is the difference between reason and madness such as his. I also give a
more reasoned and less irrational discourse than the fanatic of every religious
bent. Religion and politics have done more damage than anything else.
--
Keith Schiffner
Assistant to the Assistant Undersecretary of the Ministry of Silly Walks.
"terrorist organization" is a redundancy | 
05-30-2007, 07:44 PM
| | | Re: The Time to Act is Now - On May 27, 3:33 am, The Wolf With the Red Roses <W...@Red.com> wrote:
>
>
> Part, and only part, of the reason is the current wave of immigrants
> aren't european so that don't melt all that easy, nor can then blend
> as easily as they once did. However, in every wave of immigration a
> version of this debate has happened over & over.
>
> Almost any group I can think of was rather clannish among first
> generation immigration. There are still rather large enclaves of
> certain european based immigrants, such as the Irish in Boston, or
> Italians in NY.
>
> As their children go through our schools systems, become Americanized,
> develop a larger & more diverse group of friends, these issues begin
> to fade & the parents lament the loss of traditions among their
> children.
>
> Now illegal aliens from the aspect of performing all the duties of a
> citizen -- paying taxes, serving in the military, hell even voting can
> become a problem. However, they are not the "Big" issue many people
> want to make of them from a political platform standpoint. It is more
> of a racist attitude towards Hispanics -- specifically Mexicans which
> makes for good air-play come election time. After all no
> "Joe-Average" American wants to pay $10 a head of lettuce or spend the
> day stooped over in a field.
> --
>
> "On a hot summer night, would you offer your
> throat to the wolf with the red roses?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> "I bet you say that to all the boys!
One thing I want to differ with here: I am convinced that you can find
Americans who will spend all day stooped over in the fields -- only
that you must pay them adequate compensation for it. Them recent
immigration raids had everyone wondering about labor shortages, but,
sure enough, when push came to shove, legal U.S. residents and
citizens were found for the jobs, once they raised starting wages.
(Attrition is high, however, compared to the illegals -- so attracting
legals with higher wages is clearly the answer, but keeping
them...that's another problem, which can be solved with better
conditions and even higher wages [raises]....)
Which brings up the issue of the $10 head of lettuce. I think a good
$5 of it will be just profit for the capitalist, so to me the trick is
to somehow get the capitalists to not be so greedy. All this talk
about the price of labor is just a red herring. They -- the powers
that be, the business owners, the capitalists -- always talk about
rising labor costs, but the truth is that they want to keep having
their lion's share of the pie. If they divvied things up much more
equitably they could find the native-born help, all right.
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