What happened to MFW?

Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> writes:

> In article <6ctdf5-dht.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dnia 2008-05-09 Jason Earl napisa³(a):
>> >
>> >> USENET soured for me a few years ago. I just crave anonymity too
>> >> much. (Hey, wouldn't that make me a bad attention-hound?)
>> >
>> > Anonymity is over-rated. In fact, the real problem with the USENET is
>> > that it allows anonymous psychopathic losers a bully pulpit for their
>> > ideas. That's perhaps the one thing that Schuh and I would agree on.
>> > If people's online activities were linked up with their real life then
>> > they wouldn't act like such jackasses online.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, that's not how it works, and so, to a certain extent
>> > posting on USENET risks exposing your life to random crazies with too
>> > much time on their hands.
>>
>> Being crazy is no excuse for being an asshole. I visited a madhouse
>> many times last year (not as a patient yet, thankfully) and most people
>> there are crazy and nice. I don't remember seeing anyone behaving rude.
>>
>> I mean, be fair. There are crazy people who are rude, and there are
>> normal people who are rude. It's hard to say who is more of a pain.
>
> The thing you may watch is how your on line life may indeed affect
> your real life. For instance, our local precinct, when new cops apply
> there for jobs, have very high standards.
>
> They do everything they can to check out your activities on the
> internet. And if you get caught lying about your on line identities,
> you get canned. They tolerate no lying at all.

When I was in high school I wrote an article in the school newspaper
that nearly got me kicked out of the private school I attended.
Everything I said was true, but I used my connections with the nerds
that laid out the paper to get my article added without permission.
What really got me in trouble was that I used a pseudonym.

So I haven't used one since. I use my real name and email address.

Before I hit send I simply ask myself if the post would upset my wife or
my mother were they to read it. This does mean that some of my funnier
posts end up not getting sent, but it also means that I have years of
online history without posts that I am embarrassed about years later.

I'm not quite as opposed to pseudonyms as Schuh is, as there are plenty
of people on USENET that can act civilly without revealing their
identity, but there is little question that anonymity brings out the
worst in some people.

Jason

Jason Earl wrote:

> Before I hit send I simply ask myself if the post would upset my wife or
> my mother were they to read it. This does mean that some of my funnier
> posts end up not getting sent, but it also means that I have years of
> online history without posts that I am embarrassed about years later.

I've got the added problem of wondering if it would offend any of my
clients. My in-person persona is that of the competent servant. My own
personal hobbies, opinions and foibles aren't something I want open to
google.

Also, I've got more concern for my safety than you apparently do. I'm
responsible for not endangering the children, for example. I suppose
part of this could come from being endowed with an innate personality
that makes people want to kill me. For whatever reason, I would prefer
anonymity over pwople who know the directions to my house.

As this isn't attainable in this forum for me, I've bowed out.

Dally

In article <68mcorF2thohuU1@mid.individual.net>,
Dally <Dally@myself.com> wrote:

> Jason Earl wrote:
>
> > Before I hit send I simply ask myself if the post would upset my wife or
> > my mother were they to read it. This does mean that some of my funnier
> > posts end up not getting sent, but it also means that I have years of
> > online history without posts that I am embarrassed about years later.
>
> I've got the added problem of wondering if it would offend any of my
> clients. My in-person persona is that of the competent servant. My own
> personal hobbies, opinions and foibles aren't something I want open to
> google.
>
> Also, I've got more concern for my safety than you apparently do. I'm
> responsible for not endangering the children, for example. I suppose
> part of this could come from being endowed with an innate personality
> that makes people want to kill me. For whatever reason, I would prefer
> anonymity over people who know the directions to my house.
>
> As this isn't attainable in this forum for me, I've bowed out.
>
> Dally

Smart girl.

One who learns from her mistakes. :-)

Fortunately there are only a very few here that know who I am and they,
so far, have proven trustworthy to keep my location and identity
proprietary and gain my trust in reciprocation!

Some of my best and most trusted friends have come from usenet contacts,
including my reloading guru and some of the finest of my firearms
teachers I've actually met in person. I managed to kill a prairie dog
with my new toy I bought last fall at 430 yards... Charlie, my guru's
buddy, taught me how to properly use that rifle and it's scope.

You know I am there if you ever need me. Seriously. This e-mail works.

And, for the record, _I've_ no desire to kill you. I don't know what you
did/said to make Chas dislike you so. He and I are actually friends. I
guess I came in late in the threads or whatever. I was gone for awhile?
<shrugs> Oh well! :-)

Usenet is nothing if not elastic.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

On May 10, 3:53 pm, Dally <Da...@myself.com> wrote:
[...]

> For whatever reason, I would prefer anonymity over
> pwople who know the directions to my house.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There's nuthin' more dangerous than... pwople assailants.

> As this isn't attainable in this forum for me,
> I've bowed out.

Is this you bowing out? Because you're making a lot of noise for
someone who's, uh, not here any longer.

>
> Dally

--

On May 10, 4:12 pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> Smart girl.

Forgive me for disagreeing. How smart is it to constantly showcase
your perceived problems? She spells out her fears of posting to this
newsgroup instead of simply remaining silent on those topics. Weird.

> One who learns from her mistakes. :-)

Again, I see no evidence of her learning.

[...]

> I managed to kill a prairie dog with my new toy I bought last
> fall at 430 yards... <snip>

Well, it would seem you're assured some level of safety... from a
prairie dog. And that only if the critter doesn't somehow get within
that critical 430-yard mark.

Om: "AIIIIIIIEEEEE!!! SON OF A... IT'S AT FOUR-HUNDRED TWENTY-NINE
YARDS! RED ALERT! RED ALERT!"

> And, for the record, _I've_ no desire to kill you. I don't know what you
> did/said to make Chas dislike you so. <snip>

Well, if you're speaking of the record, I don't recall Charles ever
stating he wanted to kill her. And, no, I don't recall you ever saying
he did, however believed it necessary to offer that clarification...
or muddy the water additionally.

I hope your weekend's going well, Om.

--

On Sun, 04 May 2008 01:09:58 -0500, Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <7b8p145dr5adj6ej7stkdh84hte5069jeu@4ax.com>,
> Joe Humble <jhumble@rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:08:10 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Dnia 2008-04-23 Curt napisa³(a):
>> >> On Apr 22, 11:12 am, Andrzej Rosa <bakt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >>> You can't kill a troll, but by means of starvation.
>> >>
>> >> You mean that creating Troll Web sites isn't a useful tool?
>> >
>> >It's useful, if you want to turn normal poster into a troll. Some guys
>> >are damn talented in doing so.
>> >
>> >> Because
>> >> I'd hate to think that my bestestest online buddy and pal, JWM, was
>> >> anything less than a true genius.
>> >
>> >He was one of the talented ones, but he's long gone.
>>
>> Did he really quit posting?? I really thought he'd have a keyboard
>> and a link to MFW right up until the day they unplugged him.
>>
>> The inexorable tide is away from Usenet (especially for non-technical
>> discussion). The natural forces at work have ALWAYS favored Usenet as
>> a playground for the mentally ill. This is pretty much why, one by
>> one, people who are not mentally ill have migrated to web-based
>> forums.
>>
>> There is simply no reason for a normal sane person to take the daily
>> abuse that Usenet dishes out. Further, there is almost no recourse
>> against someone no matter how f'ed up they are. There is NO reason
>> for a sane person to stay locked up in a forum with nutcases.
>>
>> This is one of the key reasons that I think the "ideal" of a free and
>> open internet is not ideal at all. Watching Curt and Charles chatter
>> back and forth is amusing and yes, this forum user to be much MUCH
>> more. It was a temporary time that will never return. It was the
>> "sweet spot" just after the net became popular and just before
>> web-based forums took off. That situation won't reoccur so I'm not
>> just pining for the "good old days". The situation DID fundamentally
>> change and it is not just a case of looking back on the past fondly.
>>
>> --
>> Is this thing on?
>
>I still like usenet. A lot depends on the forums and how well you know
>how to use killfiles.
>
>Right now my favorite groups are alt.binaries.pictures.gardens

Just checked it out; not what I was looking for at all.

"gardens" != "fullbush"

On Thu, 08 May 2008 13:35:21 -0600, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com> wrote:

>Footnotes:
>[1] Actually, she might be a runway model by now. I don't know.

Perhaps she was struck by the landing gear of a 767 on one of her runs.

On Thu, 08 May 2008 20:57:02 -0400, Dally <Dally@myself.com> wrote:

>Jason Earl wrote:
>
>> Dally <Dally@myself.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Jason Earl wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hooray, Dally used to be fat, and now she's not. She's still not a
>>>>runway model[1], but she's not dead yet .
>>>>
>>>>Jason
>>>>
>>>>Footnotes: [1] Actually, she might be a runway model by now. I
>>>>don't know.
>>>>
>>>
>>>No, I'm definitely focusing more on not being dead yet. My latest
>>>hobby is shooting. I've developed to the point where I can most
>>>likely hit the broad side of a barn with my sweet little 20
>>>gauge. (The clay trap pigeons are still pretty safe, though.) :-)
>>
>>
>> Which is just further proof that you are one of that truly unique breed
>> of USENET posters. Very few folks on USENET are willing to admit that
>> they have actually changed their mind on a subject. For most posters
>> close-mindedness is the closest thing that they have to a virtue.
>
>I had an epiphany. You can read it here,
>http://gwendally.livejournal.com/136634.html but it's long-winded. In
>fact, an attribute of blogging is that it's a nice place for people to
>go and contemplate their navals (sic).

No, a JOURNAL is where you go to contemplate *yourself*. Only attention-hounds and other
pathetically-needy types use a *public* forum for that purpose....

....and then whine about their loss of privacy.

On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:34:58 -0700 (PDT), Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 10, 3:53 pm, Dally <Da...@myself.com> wrote:
>[...]
>
>> For whatever reason, I would prefer anonymity over
>> pwople who know the directions to my house.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>There's nuthin' more dangerous than... pwople assailants.
>
>> As this isn't attainable in this forum for me,
>> I've bowed out.
>
>Is this you bowing out? Because you're making a lot of noise for
>someone who's, uh, not here any longer.

Historically, about 40% of the threads in which she has posted opine on her departures,
whether past, present, or future.

On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:53:36 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Dnia 2008-05-08 Jason Earl napisa³(a):
>> Dally <Dally@myself.com> writes:
>>
>>> No, I'm definitely focusing more on not being dead yet. My latest
>>> hobby is shooting. I've developed to the point where I can most
>>> likely hit the broad side of a barn with my sweet little 20
>>> gauge. (The clay trap pigeons are still pretty safe, though.) :-)
>>
>> Which is just further proof that you are one of that truly unique breed
>> of USENET posters. Very few folks on USENET are willing to admit that
>> they have actually changed their mind on a subject. For most posters
>> close-mindedness is the closest thing that they have to a virtue.
>
>There was a parish in France once, who lived in a village which often
>changed hands during religious war. When catholic won, he become a
>catholic, when protestants won, he became a protestant; when they accused
>him of being a turncloak, he simply explained, that he always wanted to
>be a parish.

You misspelled "Parisian".

Dnia 2008-05-10 Omelet napisa³(a):
> In article <0odgf5-67i.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dnia 2008-05-10 Charles napisa³(a):
>> > On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:41:10 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Dnia 2008-05-09 Jason Earl napisa?(a):
>> >>>
>> >>>> USENET soured for me a few years ago. I just crave anonymity too
>> >>>> much. (Hey, wouldn't that make me a bad attention-hound?)
>> >>>
>> >>> Anonymity is over-rated. In fact, the real problem with the USENET is
>> >>> that it allows anonymous psychopathic losers a bully pulpit for their
>> >>> ideas. That's perhaps the one thing that Schuh and I would agree on.
>> >>> If people's online activities were linked up with their real life then
>> >>> they wouldn't act like such jackasses online.
>> >>>
>> >>> Unfortunately, that's not how it works, and so, to a certain extent
>> >>> posting on USENET risks exposing your life to random crazies with too
>> >>> much time on their hands.
>> >>
>> >>Being crazy is no excuse for being an asshole. I visited a madhouse
>> >>many times last year (not as a patient yet, thankfully) and most people
>> >>there are crazy and nice. I don't remember seeing anyone behaving rude.
>> >>
>> >>I mean, be fair. There are crazy people who are rude, and there are
>> >>normal people who are rude. It's hard to say who is more of a pain.
>> >
>> > In my experience most people will respond to you in the way you
>> > present yourself to them.
>> >
>> > If you are nice, they are nice; if you are rude, then they are rude to
>> > you; if you are hostile and combative or attempt to exclude, then
>> > stand by for some retaliation.
>>
>> Not just people. Computer programs successful at survival do the same
>> thing, so it's universal. There was a research on prisoner's paradox,
>> where it pays to cooperate if both parties cooperate, but if one doesn't
>> it's better to become a traitor first. The most successful strategy was
>> to try cooperating at the beginning, and later repeat the last move of
>> the opponent. That is you start being nice and continue being nice as
>> long as the other side remains nice. It turns out that what you
>> describe is a law of nature, not just an observation of human behavior.
>>
>> > Have a great weekend Andrzej - I am!! ;o
>>
>> I'm psyching myself up to do some wrenching on my Ural bike. Wish me
>> luck, I'll need it. ;-)
>
> It was a busy night in the ER last night so I'm tired. ;-)
> I'm trying to psyche myself into going and doing landscaping.
>
> My "lifting" will be moving rocks and bags of mulch...
>
> Cheer Chas and Andrzej~

Thanks. Ural is stripped and I'm pretty much drunk, and tomorrow we have a ]
ride. Bumpy twisties beware, I'm comming.

I promise to do some lifting in between, Burr. I will. And I'll behave
and will not start anything with any random women too. I'm such a nice
organized and dependabpele guy, that I am. Siure.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R aching for a ride again. Such a beast.

"Lucas Buck" <sbcpark@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:j5ac241uq6ubi7hbequtj372p6fi83hgmb@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 20:57:02 -0400, Dally <Dally@myself.com> wrote:
>
>>Jason Earl wrote:
>>
>>> Dally <Dally@myself.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jason Earl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hooray, Dally used to be fat, and now she's not. She's still not a
>>>>>runway model[1], but she's not dead yet .
>>>>>
>>>>>Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>Footnotes: [1] Actually, she might be a runway model by now. I
>>>>>don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, I'm definitely focusing more on not being dead yet. My latest
>>>>hobby is shooting. I've developed to the point where I can most
>>>>likely hit the broad side of a barn with my sweet little 20
>>>>gauge. (The clay trap pigeons are still pretty safe, though.) :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Which is just further proof that you are one of that truly unique breed
>>> of USENET posters. Very few folks on USENET are willing to admit that
>>> they have actually changed their mind on a subject. For most posters
>>> close-mindedness is the closest thing that they have to a virtue.
>>
>>I had an epiphany. You can read it here,
>>http://gwendally.livejournal.com/136634.html but it's long-winded. In
>>fact, an attribute of blogging is that it's a nice place for people to
>>go and contemplate their navals (sic).
>
> No, a JOURNAL is where you go to contemplate *yourself*. Only
> attention-hounds and other
> pathetically-needy types use a *public* forum for that purpose....
>
> ...and then whine about their loss of privacy.
>

No no Lucas. She is just terribly misunderstood -

Dnia 2008-05-10 Lucas Buck napisa³(a):
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:53:36 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Dnia 2008-05-08 Jason Earl napisa³(a):
>>> Dally <Dally@myself.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> No, I'm definitely focusing more on not being dead yet. My latest
>>>> hobby is shooting. I've developed to the point where I can most
>>>> likely hit the broad side of a barn with my sweet little 20
>>>> gauge. (The clay trap pigeons are still pretty safe, though.) :-)
>>>
>>> Which is just further proof that you are one of that truly unique breed
>>> of USENET posters. Very few folks on USENET are willing to admit that
>>> they have actually changed their mind on a subject. For most posters
>>> close-mindedness is the closest thing that they have to a virtue.
>>
>>There was a parish in France once, who lived in a village which often
>>changed hands during religious war. When catholic won, he become a
>>catholic, when protestants won, he became a protestant; when they accused
>>him of being a turncloak, he simply explained, that he always wanted to
>>be a parish.
>
> You misspelled "Parisian".

Good point.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> Dnia 2008-05-10 Lucas Buck napisa³(a):
>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:53:36 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dnia 2008-05-08 Jason Earl napisa³(a):
>>>> Dally <Dally@myself.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm definitely focusing more on not being dead yet. My latest
>>>>> hobby is shooting. I've developed to the point where I can most
>>>>> likely hit the broad side of a barn with my sweet little 20
>>>>> gauge. (The clay trap pigeons are still pretty safe, though.) :-)
>>>> Which is just further proof that you are one of that truly unique breed
>>>> of USENET posters. Very few folks on USENET are willing to admit that
>>>> they have actually changed their mind on a subject. For most posters
>>>> close-mindedness is the closest thing that they have to a virtue.
>>> There was a parish in France once, who lived in a village which often
>>> changed hands during religious war. When catholic won, he become a
>>> catholic, when protestants won, he became a protestant; when they accused
>>> him of being a turncloak, he simply explained, that he always wanted to
>>> be a parish.
>> You misspelled "Parisian".
>
> Good point.
>
I thought it read fine as a parish All churches have a parish so it
made sense that a parish may have just wanted to be a parish and didn't
care what religion. He rather than they wanting to be a parish did
puzzle me a moment but I thought what the heck, this is MFW!

Bob

In article <87tzh6w37e.fsf@workhorse.earlhome>,
Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com> wrote:

> I'm not quite as opposed to pseudonyms as Schuh is, as there are plenty
> of people on USENET that can act civilly without revealing their
> identity, but there is little question that anonymity brings out the
> worst in some people.
>
> Jason

"some" people being the operative word. :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article
<cb0c8dcb-5328-4a7f-86bf-85ca345c5101@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 10, 4:12 pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Smart girl.
>
> Forgive me for disagreeing. How smart is it to constantly showcase
> your perceived problems? She spells out her fears of posting to this
> newsgroup instead of simply remaining silent on those topics. Weird.

I never saw that. Like I said, I came in a bit late.

>
> > One who learns from her mistakes. :-)
>
> Again, I see no evidence of her learning.

She now owns and enjoys a shotgun.

>
> [...]
>
> > I managed to kill a prairie dog with my new toy I bought last
> > fall at 430 yards... <snip>
>
> Well, it would seem you're assured some level of safety... from a
> prairie dog. And that only if the critter doesn't somehow get within
> that critical 430-yard mark.
>
> Om: "AIIIIIIIEEEEE!!! SON OF A... IT'S AT FOUR-HUNDRED TWENTY-NINE
> YARDS! RED ALERT! RED ALERT!"

<g> It's a matter of marksmanship training.

>
> > And, for the record, _I've_ no desire to kill you. I don't know what you
> > did/said to make Chas dislike you so. <snip>
>
> Well, if you're speaking of the record, I don't recall Charles ever
> stating he wanted to kill her. And, no, I don't recall you ever saying
> he did, however believed it necessary to offer that clarification...
> or muddy the water additionally.
>
> I hope your weekend's going well, Om.

I'm goofing off as usual, altho' I did move Jewely's doghouse to the
front porch now that dad's old dog finally passed on. I also swept it
and cleaned it and did a little more yardwork.

I need to cook that barbacoa that is in the back 'frige. I'm
considering adding some black soybeans and making chili.

>
> --
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article <s2mhf5-r45.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dnia 2008-05-10 Omelet napisa³(a):
> > In article <0odgf5-67i.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
> > Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dnia 2008-05-10 Charles napisa³(a):
> >> > On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:41:10 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Dnia 2008-05-09 Jason Earl napisa?(a):
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> USENET soured for me a few years ago. I just crave anonymity too
> >> >>>> much. (Hey, wouldn't that make me a bad attention-hound?)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Anonymity is over-rated. In fact, the real problem with the USENET is
> >> >>> that it allows anonymous psychopathic losers a bully pulpit for their
> >> >>> ideas. That's perhaps the one thing that Schuh and I would agree on.
> >> >>> If people's online activities were linked up with their real life then
> >> >>> they wouldn't act like such jackasses online.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Unfortunately, that's not how it works, and so, to a certain extent
> >> >>> posting on USENET risks exposing your life to random crazies with too
> >> >>> much time on their hands.
> >> >>
> >> >>Being crazy is no excuse for being an asshole. I visited a madhouse
> >> >>many times last year (not as a patient yet, thankfully) and most people
> >> >>there are crazy and nice. I don't remember seeing anyone behaving rude.
> >> >>
> >> >>I mean, be fair. There are crazy people who are rude, and there are
> >> >>normal people who are rude. It's hard to say who is more of a pain.
> >> >
> >> > In my experience most people will respond to you in the way you
> >> > present yourself to them.
> >> >
> >> > If you are nice, they are nice; if you are rude, then they are rude to
> >> > you; if you are hostile and combative or attempt to exclude, then
> >> > stand by for some retaliation.
> >>
> >> Not just people. Computer programs successful at survival do the same
> >> thing, so it's universal. There was a research on prisoner's paradox,
> >> where it pays to cooperate if both parties cooperate, but if one doesn't
> >> it's better to become a traitor first. The most successful strategy was
> >> to try cooperating at the beginning, and later repeat the last move of
> >> the opponent. That is you start being nice and continue being nice as
> >> long as the other side remains nice. It turns out that what you
> >> describe is a law of nature, not just an observation of human behavior.
> >>
> >> > Have a great weekend Andrzej - I am!! ;o
> >>
> >> I'm psyching myself up to do some wrenching on my Ural bike. Wish me
> >> luck, I'll need it. ;-)
> >
> > It was a busy night in the ER last night so I'm tired. ;-)
> > I'm trying to psyche myself into going and doing landscaping.
> >
> > My "lifting" will be moving rocks and bags of mulch...
> >
> > Cheer Chas and Andrzej~
>
> Thanks. Ural is stripped and I'm pretty much drunk, and tomorrow we have a ]
> ride. Bumpy twisties beware, I'm comming.
>
> I promise to do some lifting in between, Burr. I will. And I'll behave
> and will not start anything with any random women too. I'm such a nice
> organized and dependabpele guy, that I am. Siure.

Such a DRUNK beast! <g>
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmpomelet-D0AF2E.01010611052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <s2mhf5-r45.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dnia 2008-05-10 Omelet napisa³(a):
>> > In article <0odgf5-67i.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
>> > Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dnia 2008-05-10 Charles napisa³(a):
>> >> > On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:41:10 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Dnia 2008-05-09 Jason Earl napisa?(a):
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> USENET soured for me a few years ago. I just crave anonymity too
>> >> >>>> much. (Hey, wouldn't that make me a bad attention-hound?)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Anonymity is over-rated. In fact, the real problem with the
>> >> >>> USENET is
>> >> >>> that it allows anonymous psychopathic losers a bully pulpit for
>> >> >>> their
>> >> >>> ideas. That's perhaps the one thing that Schuh and I would agree
>> >> >>> on.
>> >> >>> If people's online activities were linked up with their real life
>> >> >>> then
>> >> >>> they wouldn't act like such jackasses online.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Unfortunately, that's not how it works, and so, to a certain
>> >> >>> extent
>> >> >>> posting on USENET risks exposing your life to random crazies with
>> >> >>> too
>> >> >>> much time on their hands.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Being crazy is no excuse for being an asshole. I visited a madhouse
>> >> >>many times last year (not as a patient yet, thankfully) and most
>> >> >>people
>> >> >>there are crazy and nice. I don't remember seeing anyone behaving
>> >> >>rude.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I mean, be fair. There are crazy people who are rude, and there are
>> >> >>normal people who are rude. It's hard to say who is more of a pain.
>> >> >
>> >> > In my experience most people will respond to you in the way you
>> >> > present yourself to them.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you are nice, they are nice; if you are rude, then they are rude
>> >> > to
>> >> > you; if you are hostile and combative or attempt to exclude, then
>> >> > stand by for some retaliation.
>> >>
>> >> Not just people. Computer programs successful at survival do the same
>> >> thing, so it's universal. There was a research on prisoner's paradox,
>> >> where it pays to cooperate if both parties cooperate, but if one
>> >> doesn't
>> >> it's better to become a traitor first. The most successful strategy
>> >> was
>> >> to try cooperating at the beginning, and later repeat the last move of
>> >> the opponent. That is you start being nice and continue being nice as
>> >> long as the other side remains nice. It turns out that what you
>> >> describe is a law of nature, not just an observation of human
>> >> behavior.
>> >>
>> >> > Have a great weekend Andrzej - I am!! ;o
>> >>
>> >> I'm psyching myself up to do some wrenching on my Ural bike. Wish me
>> >> luck, I'll need it. ;-)
>> >
>> > It was a busy night in the ER last night so I'm tired. ;-)
>> > I'm trying to psyche myself into going and doing landscaping.
>> >
>> > My "lifting" will be moving rocks and bags of mulch...
>> >
>> > Cheer Chas and Andrzej~
>>
>> Thanks. Ural is stripped and I'm pretty much drunk, and tomorrow we have
>> a ]
>> ride. Bumpy twisties beware, I'm comming.
>>
>> I promise to do some lifting in between, Burr. I will. And I'll behave
>> and will not start anything with any random women too. I'm such a nice
>> organized and dependabpele guy, that I am. Siure.
>
> Such a DRUNK beast! <g>
> --
> Peace! Om
>
Om, just because I said your were totally full of crap, that is no reason to
ignore me!! We're friends don't forget!


> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

Dnia 2008-05-11 Bob Volkmer napisa³(a):
> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>> Dnia 2008-05-10 Lucas Buck napisa³(a):
>>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:53:36 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dnia 2008-05-08 Jason Earl napisa³(a):
>>>>> Dally <Dally@myself.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I'm definitely focusing more on not being dead yet. My latest
>>>>>> hobby is shooting. I've developed to the point where I can most
>>>>>> likely hit the broad side of a barn with my sweet little 20
>>>>>> gauge. (The clay trap pigeons are still pretty safe, though.) :-)
>>>>> Which is just further proof that you are one of that truly unique breed
>>>>> of USENET posters. Very few folks on USENET are willing to admit that
>>>>> they have actually changed their mind on a subject. For most posters
>>>>> close-mindedness is the closest thing that they have to a virtue.
>>>> There was a parish in France once, who lived in a village which often
>>>> changed hands during religious war. When catholic won, he become a
>>>> catholic, when protestants won, he became a protestant; when they accused
>>>> him of being a turncloak, he simply explained, that he always wanted to
>>>> be a parish.
>>> You misspelled "Parisian".
>>
>> Good point.
>>
> I thought it read fine as a parish All churches have a parish so it
> made sense that a parish may have just wanted to be a parish and didn't
> care what religion. He rather than they wanting to be a parish did
> puzzle me a moment but I thought what the heck, this is MFW!

Lucas has vast historic knowledge (at least when compared to mine), so his
pun should be read in this light. I suppose he joked about the
friendliness with which the French welcomed Nazis during WWII.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Dnia 2008-05-11 Omelet napisa³(a):
>>
>> > One who learns from her mistakes. :-)
>>
>> Again, I see no evidence of her learning.
>
> She now owns and enjoys a shotgun.

Buying and enjoying a toy takes much learning? I'm no fan of guns, but
I'd really like to have the Garand a Mosin Nagant and some Lee Enfield
too.

>> he did, however believed it necessary to offer that clarification...
>> or muddy the water additionally.
>>
>> I hope your weekend's going well, Om.
>
> I'm goofing off as usual, altho' I did move Jewely's doghouse to the
> front porch now that dad's old dog finally passed on. I also swept it
> and cleaned it and did a little more yardwork.
>
> I need to cook that barbacoa that is in the back 'frige. I'm
> considering adding some black soybeans and making chili.

Damn. I'm hungry and have no time to eat now. Stop it, please.

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Dnia 2008-05-11 Omelet napisa³(a):
> In article <s2mhf5-r45.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
> Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > It was a busy night in the ER last night so I'm tired. ;-)
>> > I'm trying to psyche myself into going and doing landscaping.
>> >
>> > My "lifting" will be moving rocks and bags of mulch...
>> >
>> > Cheer Chas and Andrzej~
>>
>> Thanks. Ural is stripped and I'm pretty much drunk, and tomorrow we have a ]
>> ride. Bumpy twisties beware, I'm comming.
>>
>> I promise to do some lifting in between, Burr. I will. And I'll behave
>> and will not start anything with any random women too. I'm such a nice
>> organized and dependabpele guy, that I am. Siure.
>
> Such a DRUNK beast! <g>

Actually I drink very little now. Once in a while several beers and
that's it. I was drunk due to uncommonly low tolerance for alcohol I
have now. Probably lowest I had since high school. ;-)

--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R

In article <4826981e$0$30461$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Om, just because I said your were totally full of crap, that is no reason to
> ignore me!! We're friends don't forget!

No worries mate. ;-)
You just have to post something I feel compelled to answer. I don't feel
compelled to answer all posts, even if addressed to me.

You tend to take things too personally.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article <bhjif5-26e.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dnia 2008-05-11 Omelet napisa³(a):
> > In article <s2mhf5-r45.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
> > Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > It was a busy night in the ER last night so I'm tired. ;-)
> >> > I'm trying to psyche myself into going and doing landscaping.
> >> >
> >> > My "lifting" will be moving rocks and bags of mulch...
> >> >
> >> > Cheer Chas and Andrzej~
> >>
> >> Thanks. Ural is stripped and I'm pretty much drunk, and tomorrow we have
> >> a ]
> >> ride. Bumpy twisties beware, I'm comming.
> >>
> >> I promise to do some lifting in between, Burr. I will. And I'll behave
> >> and will not start anything with any random women too. I'm such a nice
> >> organized and dependabpele guy, that I am. Siure.
> >
> > Such a DRUNK beast! <g>
>
> Actually I drink very little now. Once in a while several beers and
> that's it. I was drunk due to uncommonly low tolerance for alcohol I
> have now. Probably lowest I had since high school. ;-)

So drink more, and take Milk Thistle? :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article <44kif5-26e.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>,
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dnia 2008-05-11 Omelet napisa³(a):
> >>
> >> > One who learns from her mistakes. :-)
> >>
> >> Again, I see no evidence of her learning.
> >
> > She now owns and enjoys a shotgun.
>
> Buying and enjoying a toy takes much learning? I'm no fan of guns, but
> I'd really like to have the Garand a Mosin Nagant and some Lee Enfield
> too.

And go shoot some innocent beer cans? <g>

>
> >> he did, however believed it necessary to offer that clarification...
> >> or muddy the water additionally.
> >>
> >> I hope your weekend's going well, Om.
> >
> > I'm goofing off as usual, altho' I did move Jewely's doghouse to the
> > front porch now that dad's old dog finally passed on. I also swept it
> > and cleaned it and did a little more yardwork.
> >
> > I need to cook that barbacoa that is in the back 'frige. I'm
> > considering adding some black soybeans and making chili.
>
> Damn. I'm hungry and have no time to eat now. Stop it, please.

<lol> I can smell the beef cheek cooking now! With onions, celery,
garlic, carrots and lemon pepper, plus a bit of chili powder and cumin.

I decided to forego the beans. I want to eat it low carb so will
probably mix it with eggs and cheese when it's done.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmpomelet-EBFC3B.03231111052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <4826981e$0$30461$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Om, just because I said your were totally full of crap, that is no reason
>> to
>> ignore me!! We're friends don't forget!
>
> No worries mate. ;-)
> You just have to post something I feel compelled to answer. I don't feel
> compelled to answer all posts, even if addressed to me.
>
> You tend to take things too personally.

OK, I'll only do compelling posts from now on!

> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

On Sun, 11 May 2008 03:23:11 -0500, Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <4826981e$0$30461$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Om, just because I said your were totally full of crap, that is no reason to
>> ignore me!! We're friends don't forget!
>
>No worries mate. ;-)
>You just have to post something I feel compelled to answer. I don't feel
>compelled to answer all posts, even if addressed to me.
>
>You tend to take things too personally.

Being an aesthete he really is a remarkably sensitive soul and easily
hurt!

Have a great Sunday Om mate - I am! ;o)

In article <4826c837$0$1022$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmpomelet-EBFC3B.03231111052008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <4826981e$0$30461$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Om, just because I said your were totally full of crap, that is no reason
> >> to
> >> ignore me!! We're friends don't forget!
> >
> > No worries mate. ;-)
> > You just have to post something I feel compelled to answer. I don't feel
> > compelled to answer all posts, even if addressed to me.
> >
> > You tend to take things too personally.
>
> OK, I'll only do compelling posts from now on!
>

But that would be too out of character. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

In article <lvid24ldlidduiku58e4vq18uj4sbumild@4ax.com>,
Charles <jrh@msn.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 11 May 2008 03:23:11 -0500, Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <4826981e$0$30461$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Om, just because I said your were totally full of crap, that is no reason
> >> to
> >> ignore me!! We're friends don't forget!
> >
> >No worries mate. ;-)
> >You just have to post something I feel compelled to answer. I don't feel
> >compelled to answer all posts, even if addressed to me.
> >
> >You tend to take things too personally.
>
> Being an aesthete he really is a remarkably sensitive soul and easily
> hurt!

I know. Poor Davey!

>
> Have a great Sunday Om mate - I am! ;o)

I made some chili meat out of Barbacoa last night (or rather, early this
morning) so I'm going to mash that up now that it's cooled off enough. I
made it in the pressure cooker. I'll add some to some eggs to keep it
low carb and call it breakfast!

I have some low carb tortillas if I want to make breakfast tacos. ;-d
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dnia 2008-05-10 Charles napisa?(a):
>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:41:10 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:

>>>Being crazy is no excuse for being an asshole. I visited a madhouse
>>>many times last year (not as a patient yet, thankfully) and most people
>>>there are crazy and nice. I don't remember seeing anyone behaving rude.
>>>
>>>I mean, be fair. There are crazy people who are rude, and there are
>>>normal people who are rude. It's hard to say who is more of a pain.
>>
>> In my experience most people will respond to you in the way you
>> present yourself to them.
>>
>> If you are nice, they are nice; if you are rude, then they are rude to
>> you; if you are hostile and combative or attempt to exclude, then
>> stand by for some retaliation.

Reminds me of the mental patient who reported back to his
psychiatrist, "This new pill is very weird. When I take it there is no
effect on me, but other people become much nicer."

> Not just people. Computer programs successful at survival do the same
> thing, so it's universal. There was a research on prisoner's paradox,
> where it pays to cooperate if both parties cooperate, but if one doesn't
> it's better to become a traitor first. The most successful strategy was
> to try cooperating at the beginning, and later repeat the last move of
> the opponent. That is you start being nice and continue being nice as
> long as the other side remains nice. It turns out that what you
> describe is a law of nature, not just an observation of human behavior.

>> Have a great weekend Andrzej - I am!! ;o

> I'm psyching myself up to do some wrenching on my Ural bike. Wish me
> luck, I'll need it. ;-)

Don't forget the bread knife and the hammer :-)

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]