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Old 05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
Pete
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Default Robert, this one is for you!

I will just say it one more time;

Since the, for example, shoulder and elbow joint are a certain distance
apart, it dictates, that when muscles in between those joints, such as
bis/tris grow, their shape will change.

Or do you really think otherwise?

when___a___muscle___grows___its___shape___changes_ ___constantly.

Muscles CANNOT just grow "bigger."

Its nonsense.

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Old 05-28-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Robert, this one is for you!

Pete,
It really does not matter that you think. My thoughts on this topic are
identical to those of people like Dr. Fred Hatfield and many others who know
a lot more than you or me. I still would love to know where you got the idea
that you can't have a peaked biceps unless it is a certain size.

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intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
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"Pete" <phoutstra@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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>I will just say it one more time;
>
> Since the, for example, shoulder and elbow joint are a certain distance
> apart, it dictates, that when muscles in between those joints, such as
> bis/tris grow, their shape will change.


Why?

>
> Or do you really think otherwise?


People can't change the shape of their muscles. Once again, if they could,
why would anyone want to look like 99% of the bodybuilder out there? Why
wouldn't everyone look like Flex Wheeler?

>
> when___a___muscle___grows___its___shape___changes_ ___constantly.
>
> Muscles CANNOT just grow "bigger."
>
> Its nonsense.
>
> --
> Pete
>
>
>
>


Until you come up with something other than you very limited experience, I
think you are in deep trouble.


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Old 05-28-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Robert, this one is for you!

Hard Bop Drums <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
[...]

> It really does not matter that you think.


Reading some of your posts, well, it's obvious that you practice what
you preach. ;o)

-=snip!=-

Oh, Robert. Relax and just kill file him.

....

Dang. 'bert's got ME kill filed.

Never mind.

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Old 05-28-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Robert, this one is for you!

"Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> schreef:

> Pete,
> It really does not matter that you think. My thoughts on this topic are
> identical to those of people like Dr. Fred Hatfield and many others who
> know a lot more than you or me. I still would love to know where you got
> the idea that you can't have a peaked biceps unless it is a certain size.


IF you have the genetic pre-disposition to have a peak, the peak will become
more pronounced when the muscle grows.

>> Since the, for example, shoulder and elbow joint are a certain distance
>> apart, it dictates, that when muscles in between those joints, such as
>> bis/tris grow, their shape will change.


> Why?


Because if the shape didnt change, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for the muscle to
grow any further!

>> Or do you really think otherwise?


> People can't change the shape of their muscles. Once again, if they could,
> why would anyone want to look like 99% of the bodybuilder out there? Why
> wouldn't everyone look like Flex Wheeler?


You are stupid.

Wheeler muscles shape DID change constantly when he was growing.

And again, you miss the point completely!

>> when___a___muscle___grows___its___shape___changes_ ___constantly.


> Muscles CANNOT just grow "bigger."


>> Its nonsense.


> Until you come up with something other than you very limited experience, I
> think you are in deep trouble.


Haha!

Deep trouble, yeah right!

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Old 05-28-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Robert, this one is for you!

On May 28, 3:06 pm, "Pete" <phouts...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> schreef:
>
> > Pete,
> > It really does not matter that you think. My thoughts on this topic are
> > identical to those of people like Dr. Fred Hatfield and many others who
> > know a lot more than you or me. I still would love to know where you got
> > the idea that you can't have a peaked biceps unless it is a certain size.

>
> IF you have the genetic pre-disposition to have a peak, the peak will become
> more pronounced when the muscle grows.
>
> >> Since the, for example, shoulder and elbow joint are a certain distance
> >> apart, it dictates, that when muscles in between those joints, such as
> >> bis/tris grow, their shape will change.

> > Why?

>
> Because if the shape didnt change, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for the muscle to
> grow any further!
>
> >> Or do you really think otherwise?

> > People can't change the shape of their muscles. Once again, if they could,
> > why would anyone want to look like 99% of the bodybuilder out there? Why
> > wouldn't everyone look like Flex Wheeler?

>
> You are stupid.
>
> Wheeler muscles shape DID change constantly when he was growing.
>
> And again, you miss the point completely!
>
> >> when___a___muscle___grows___its___shape___changes_ ___constantly.

> > Muscles CANNOT just grow "bigger."
> >> Its nonsense.

> > Until you come up with something other than you very limited experience, I
> > think you are in deep trouble.

>
> Haha!
>
> Deep trouble, yeah right!
>
> --
> Pete


Rob's right sucker. Stop telling us that a large muscle is different
from a small one. Are you trying to say that arnold's bis has chnaged
since he was young? Try looking at the net dickhead. Even at age 19,
ahnuld's bis are great.

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Old 05-28-2007, 05:34 PM
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VinCe <sweet_rusk...@hotmail> wrote:
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> <snip>Stop telling us


Us?

> that a large muscle is different
> from a small one. Are you trying
> to say that arnold's bis has
> chnaged since he was young?


Again, I believe there's a lot of semantics confusion going on here.

> <snip> Even at age 19,
> ahnuld's bis are great.


Semantics: the study of how meaning in language is created by the use
and interrelationships of words, phrases, and sentences

Shape can be looked at in a number of ways, but to say that the shadow
cast by a 15-year-old Arnold is no different than the shadow cast by a
25-year-old Arnold would be insanity. His shape changed (or chnaged to
use your term ;o)).

You're correct in that no amount of bodybuilding is going to lower my
calf muscle on my shin - the attachment remains the same and so the
shape (in that context) does not change, however several weeks of calf
training will change its silhouette (or shape in that context) by
increasing its size.

So, attachments remain the same (shape does not change), however size
increases (shape does change).

Can you see how semantics gets in the way of (or actually creates)
discussion (or, hey, argument)?

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