Sore Vs. Tired muscles

I have just started getting into lifting after a very long time away
and was wondering about sore muscles vs tired muscles. The first week
that I started working out my muscles were very sore (no surprise)
however now they are just tired. Am I not working out hard enough or
is this normal?

Thanks

On May 22, 12:45 pm, Jay <morris.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have just started getting into lifting after a very long time away
> and was wondering about sore muscles vs tired muscles. The first week
> that I started working out my muscles were very sore (no surprise)
> however now they are just tired. Am I not working out hard enough or
> is this normal?
>
> Thanks


Could be anything. Diet, stress (psychological), rest/sleep and the
lack thereof...you'll need to provide more info....

Generally speaking, feeling "tired" is a sign of overtraining or not
enough food or rest. That how it was in the Army for me -- no one
works less than ten hours a day in the military, and in combat arms
when on maneuvers in the field your workdays are like sixteen,
eighteen, twenty hours straight, day after day!

So I think I know what you mean by feeling tired. You're not getting
enough rest or food or too much exercise.

It happens. Take a week off, really relax and eat right and see what
happens next.

On May 22, 9:45 am, Jay <morris.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have just started getting into lifting after a very long time away
> and was wondering about sore muscles vs tired muscles. The first week
> that I started working out my muscles were very sore (no surprise)
> however now they are just tired. Am I not working out hard enough or
> is this normal?
>
> Thanks

Sore muscles are from the break down of old beat up muscle by protein
digesting enzymes. If you give your muscles a rest the new muscle
will replace the old. Doing too much volume many times is the cause
of too much soreness.

Tired muscles = tired you! Too many stress hormones being produced
will give you that tired feeling.

Try less volume, more rest, better food & you will see great results.
Take your time, 3 times per week weight training is more than enough.

I've been working out since 1980 and I don't train with weights more
than 3 times per week. I'm doing Yoga 2 times per week to loosen up
what is becoming too tight from the heavy lifting. This month I
deadlifted 485 lbs while weighing 158 lbs from a 3 time per week
workout. If I would have cut back on the volume I would have pulled
more because I hit 490 during a heavy workout the week before.

http://dangilliland.typepad.com/

<dan.strongman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 22, 9:45 am, Jay <morris.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have just started getting into lifting after a very long time away
>> and was wondering about sore muscles vs tired muscles. The first week
>> that I started working out my muscles were very sore (no surprise)
>> however now they are just tired. Am I not working out hard enough or
>> is this normal?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Sore muscles are from the break down of old beat up muscle by protein
> digesting enzymes. If you give your muscles a rest the new muscle
> will replace the old. Doing too much volume many times is the cause
> of too much soreness.
>
> Tired muscles = tired you! Too many stress hormones being produced
> will give you that tired feeling.
>
> Try less volume, more rest, better food & you will see great results.
> Take your time, 3 times per week weight training is more than enough.


More volume is much less of a factor than negative movements. Negatives
cause muscle soreness very easily. You are making FAR too many
unsubstantiated sweeping generalizations.

>
> I've been working out since 1980 and I don't train with weights more
> than 3 times per week.


That is wonderful, but it does not mean that it is ideal for everyone. I
have been training since 1974 and except for when I was a stone cold
beginner, I always trained more than 3X/week. I have won many bodybuilding
shows and could have been a top powerlifter had I chosen that route.

I'm doing Yoga 2 times per week to loosen up
> what is becoming too tight from the heavy lifting. This month I
> deadlifted 485 lbs while weighing 158 lbs from a 3 time per week
> workout. If I would have cut back on the volume I would have pulled
> more because I hit 490 during a heavy workout the week before.
>
> http://dangilliland.typepad.com/
>

Dan,
I would not be too proud of weighing 158 lbs as a male unless you are 4'
tall. When you say that you don't work out with weights more than 3X/week,
do you mean a whole body work out or a split? If it is a split, why do you
think that the body can't recuperate from more than 3X/week training? Why
can't you fuckers post info without trying to get people to go to your
blogs? Is EVERYTHING about making money? BTW, I know that I have a URL for
my drum building business, but I doubt ANYONE in MFW is going to be buying
drums from me. :-)


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

You just leave that guy alone. He can post anything he want may it be
the size of your small winnie or the length of your feces. You loud
mouthed fucker.

"Jay" <morris.jay.a@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have just started getting into lifting after a very long time away
> and was wondering about sore muscles vs tired muscles. The first week
> that I started working out my muscles were very sore (no surprise)
> however now they are just tired. Am I not working out hard enough or
> is this normal?
>
> Thanks
>

I'm not qualified to give advice as I'm just getting back into lifting after
a long lay-off as well. However, you could probably attract more help by
posting your routine, as well as your age and general fitness level, so that
more experienced people can get a better feel for your problem. You really
didn't give enough info (No offense).

That said, I'll re-iterate the statements about (1)overtraining/or lack of
(2)rest/(3)nutrition. Most likely some combination of the three. I had a
similar probelm recently that was rectified by more *quality* rest and
better (and more) food.

On May 23, 10:02 pm, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
> I know that I have a URL for
> my drum building business, but I doubt ANYONE in MFW is going to be buying
> drums from me. :-)

Oh, you never know, Rob!

I'm busy fixing up a vintage Hayman and an old Vistalite at the
minute, but your stave shell tubs look pretty good to me!

Stephen