summer workout, want to cut back amount of time

so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on chest,
triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
that takes care of the legs and cardio. over the summer i have an
internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in shape
and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to only
spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms,
and abs. real answers would be appreciated

In news:1179270623.368224.18280@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com,
BHD <elondisc08@gmail.com> typed:
> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on chest,
> triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
> shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
> that takes care of the legs

So WHAT do you do for legs, weights or UF ? Why are you training for 2 hours
per day?

> and cardio. over the summer i have an
> internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
> what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in shape
> and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to only
> spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms,
> and abs.

What about legs?

> real answers would be appreciated



--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

"BHD" <elondisc08@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179270623.368224.18280@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on chest,
> triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
> shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
> that takes care of the legs and cardio. over the summer i have an
> internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
> what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in shape
> and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to only
> spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms,
> and abs. real answers would be appreciated

One-armed pushups, or whatever flavor of pushup you can do - handstand
pushups, etc.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

On May 15, 7:10 pm, BHD <elondis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on chest,
> triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
> shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
> that takes care of the legs and cardio. over the summer i have an
> internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
> what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in shape
> and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to only
> spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms,
> and abs. real answers would be appreciated



I don't know why you can't do push-ups and chin-ups and crunches and
leg lifts every day. But if you're looking to maintain what you have,
you have to do what you've been doing -- logical, right? Anything
less and you get something less. (Might not be real noticeable,
though.)

I'm just trying to get back into the fighting shape of my glory days
before I get any older. But once I get "old" I plan on just doing the
basics -- bench, curls, calisthenics, and so forth. After all's said
and done, let's not forget the physiques of old timers like Eugen
Sandow or, even, the ancient Greek athletes who modeled all those
famous statues -- just genetics, and the basics.

> "BHD" <elondisc08@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1179270623.368224.18280@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
>> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on chest,
>> triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
>> shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
>> that takes care of the legs and cardio. over the summer i have an
>> internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
>> what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in shape
>> and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to only
>> spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms,
>> and abs. real answers would be appreciated
>
>
>

I think it is hilarious when these dolts think that they can get their legs
trained by running around. Why do you think so many guys have decent upper
bodies and legs that look like they had Polio? What I don't get is why so
many wear shorts. If I had legs like 90% of these clowns at my gym, I would
cover them up all the time. :-)


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179331603.705573.268380@n59g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On May 15, 7:10 pm, BHD <elondis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
>> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on chest,
>> triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
>> shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
>> that takes care of the legs and cardio. over the summer i have an
>> internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
>> what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in shape
>> and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to only
>> spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms,
>> and abs. real answers would be appreciated
>
>
>
> I don't know why you can't do push-ups and chin-ups and crunches and
> leg lifts every day. But if you're looking to maintain what you have,
> you have to do what you've been doing -- logical, right? Anything
> less and you get something less. (Might not be real noticeable,
> though.)
>
> I'm just trying to get back into the fighting shape of my glory days
> before I get any older. But once I get "old" I plan on just doing the
> basics -- bench, curls, calisthenics, and so forth. After all's said
> and done, let's not forget the physiques of old timers like Eugen
> Sandow or, even, the ancient Greek athletes who modeled all those
> famous statues -- just genetics, and the basics.
>

Please stop with the lies about your "glory" days. If you are only 35, then
there is no fucking reason why you can't get into the best shape of your
life. We all know that you are a fucking liar, a fat ass and that you have
never been in shape. Stop lying about your military service too. If you were
being truthful, you would not have to post using a fake name.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

> So WHAT do you do for legs, weights or UF ? Why are you training for 2 hours
> per day?


well during the school year, we do sprints and plyometrics twice a
week, gets ur quads and calfs. also playing everyday during the week
gets your leg muscles pretty well since your jumping and sprinting,
running for 2 hrs. also a little bit of basic leg exercises in the
gym. over the summer im not too worried about it cause my legs dont
really get any bigger and i will be playing twice a week which will
keep them in decent shape

"Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote in message
news:OqI2i.315993$7g3.240093@newsfe14.phx...
>> "BHD" <elondisc08@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1179270623.368224.18280@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
>>> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on
>>> chest,
>>> triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
>>> shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
>>> that takes care of the legs and cardio. over the summer i have an
>>> internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
>>> what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in
>>> shape
>>> and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to
>>> only
>>> spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest,
>>> arms,
>>> and abs. real answers would be appreciated
>>
>>
>>
>
> I think it is hilarious when these dolts think that they can get their
> legs trained by running around. Why do you think so many guys have
> decent upper bodies and legs that look like they had Polio? What I
> don't get is why so many wear shorts. If I had legs like 90% of these
> clowns at my gym, I would cover them up all the time. :-)

I don't think it's always a question of avoiding legs when lifting as
much as it is that, after running around a lot, your legs are just shot.
I've lifted after running and did OK but I think such a schedule can
turn into overtraining pretty quickly.

But generally speaking, I agree with you - guys who bench more than they
deadlift or squat are a sorry bunch.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

"Hard Bop Drums" <> Please stop with the lies about your "glory" days. If
you are only 35, then there is no fucking reason why you can't get into the
best shape of your
> life. We all know that you are a fucking liar, a fat ass and that you have
never been in shape. Stop lying about your military service too. If you were
being truthful, you would not have to post using a fake name.>
>
Damn right. What a f*cking loser.

> But generally speaking, I agree with you - guys who bench more than they
> deadlift or squat are a sorry bunch.

some of us cant do deadlifts and squats cause we've had two hernias
(one on each side) and have been told that unless we want to be back
on the table to stay away from deadlifts and squats.


p.s. this group is real friendly

"BHD" <elondisc08@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179433520.339387.244220@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>> But generally speaking, I agree with you - guys who bench more than
>> they
>> deadlift or squat are a sorry bunch.
>
> some of us cant do deadlifts and squats cause we've had two hernias
> (one on each side) and have been told that unless we want to be back
> on the table to stay away from deadlifts and squats.

I've had hernia surgery on both sides, too. For most people most of the
time, it is best to learn to strengthen the area. I deadlift and squat
and it helps, not hinders, the weakened areas. Some doctors,
particularly those not associated with sports, are unnecessarily
conservative. I would see a sports medicine specialist if you haven't
already.

> p.s. this group is real friendly

mfw is mfw - killfile those who don't offer anything you want to read -
there's no rule that says you have to read what everyone says here.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
news:5b1n05F2rb10hU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote in message
> news:OqI2i.315993$7g3.240093@newsfe14.phx...
>>> "BHD" <elondisc08@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1179270623.368224.18280@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
>>>> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on chest,
>>>> triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back exercises, 2
>>>> shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play ultimate frisbee so
>>>> that takes care of the legs and cardio. over the summer i have an
>>>> internship and wont really have that much time to spend in the gym.
>>>> what im looking for is a program that will keep my upper body in shape
>>>> and to not really lose muscle mass or too much definition but to only
>>>> spend 1 hr, 3 times a week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms,
>>>> and abs. real answers would be appreciated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think it is hilarious when these dolts think that they can get their
>> legs trained by running around. Why do you think so many guys have decent
>> upper bodies and legs that look like they had Polio? What I don't get is
>> why so many wear shorts. If I had legs like 90% of these clowns at my
>> gym, I would cover them up all the time. :-)
>
> I don't think it's always a question of avoiding legs when lifting as much
> as it is that, after running around a lot, your legs are just shot. I've
> lifted after running and did OK but I think such a schedule can turn into
> overtraining pretty quickly.
>
> But generally speaking, I agree with you - guys who bench more than they
> deadlift or squat are a sorry bunch.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>

Bench more than squat or deadlift? Shit, I'll bet you that 90% of these guys
in my gym who have the upper bodies and no legs can curl more than they can
squat! :-) I don't have to worry about that as I can't bench press anymore.
I have no idea what it is. My left shoulder doesn't hurt, but I just can't
move any weight. I used to be a big bench presser too. I benched over 300 in
high school and did a triple with 485 when I was weighing 220, but I can
I'll bet I could not flat bench 200 now. I can do dumbbell flies with 80 lbs
though, so it makes no sense. I can do dumbbell inclines with 90s too.



--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

On May 16, 2:56 pm, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>
>
> Please stop with the lies about your "glory" days. If you are only 35, then
> there is no fucking reason why you can't get into the best shape of your
> life. We all know that you are a fucking liar, a fat ass and that you have
> never been in shape. Stop lying about your military service too. If you were
> being truthful, you would not have to post using a fake name.

Any of you jealous pussies that live in NYC need to verify in person
anything I've said, e-mail me in private and we can work something
out.

> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Creatine giving you the shits again, pipsqueak?



On May 17, 12:57 am, "Ralph" <r...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Hard Bop Drums" <> Please stop with the lies about your "glory" days. If
> you are only 35, then there is no fucking reason why you can't get into the
> best shape of your> life. We all know that you are a fucking liar, a fat ass and that you have
>
> never been in shape. Stop lying about your military service too. If you were
> being truthful, you would not have to post using a fake name.>
>
> Damn right. What a f*cking loser.

Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179451401.408806.202050@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 16, 2:56 pm, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Please stop with the lies about your "glory" days. If you are only 35,
>> then
>> there is no fucking reason why you can't get into the best shape of your
>> life. We all know that you are a fucking liar, a fat ass and that you
>> have
>> never been in shape. Stop lying about your military service too. If you
>> were
>> being truthful, you would not have to post using a fake name.
>
> Any of you jealous pussies that live in NYC need to verify in person
> anything I've said, e-mail me in private and we can work something
> out.
>
>> --

Fuck you coward. You are just another anonymous coward talking shit on the
computer. We all know that you are out of shape and a liar. I suggest you
butch up a bit. Why not make some bigoted homophobic comments too? That is
on par with your simple mind.

--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

In news:wq33i.304199$115.275031@newsfe10.phx,
Hard Bop Drums <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> typed:
> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
> news:5b1n05F2rb10hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote in message
>> news:OqI2i.315993$7g3.240093@newsfe14.phx...
>>>> "BHD" <elondisc08@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1179270623.368224.18280@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>>>> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
>>>>> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on
>>>>> chest, triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back
>>>>> exercises, 2 shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play
>>>>> ultimate frisbee so that takes care of the legs and cardio. over
>>>>> the summer i have an internship and wont really have that much
>>>>> time to spend in the gym. what im looking for is a program that
>>>>> will keep my upper body in shape and to not really lose muscle
>>>>> mass or too much definition but to only spend 1 hr, 3 times a
>>>>> week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms, and abs. real
>>>>> answers would be appreciated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think it is hilarious when these dolts think that they can get
>>> their legs trained by running around. Why do you think so many guys
>>> have decent upper bodies and legs that look like they had Polio?
>>> What I don't get is why so many wear shorts. If I had legs like 90%
>>> of these clowns at my gym, I would cover them up all the time. :-)
>>
>> I don't think it's always a question of avoiding legs when lifting
>> as much as it is that, after running around a lot, your legs are
>> just shot. I've lifted after running and did OK but I think such a
>> schedule can turn into overtraining pretty quickly.
>>
>> But generally speaking, I agree with you - guys who bench more than
>> they deadlift or squat are a sorry bunch.
>>
>> -S-
>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>
>>
>
> Bench more than squat or deadlift? Shit, I'll bet you that 90% of
> these guys in my gym who have the upper bodies and no legs can curl
> more than they can squat! :-) I don't have to worry about that as I
> can't bench press anymore. I have no idea what it is. My left
> shoulder doesn't hurt, but I just can't move any weight. I used to be
> a big bench presser too. I benched over 300 in high school and did a
> triple with 485 when I was weighing 220, but I can I'll bet I could
> not flat bench 200 now. I can do dumbbell flies with 80 lbs though,
> so it makes no sense. I can do dumbbell inclines with 90s too.

If you can do inclines but not flat bench then it sounds like you may have a
problem with pec major as pec minor can take over with incline pressing. Is
there any pain?

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

Blah blah blah...never got over being the hallway monitor, eh?

Like I said, I'm in NYC, let me know via private e-mail if you want to
meet and talk about your problems. Otherwise, I don't know you from a
squeaky ol' bench with a screw loose! ^_^


On May 18, 1:54 am, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>
>
> Fuck you coward. You are just another anonymous coward talking shit on the
> computer. We all know that you are out of shape and a liar. I suggest you
> butch up a bit. Why not make some bigoted homophobic comments too? That is
> on par with your simple mind.
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

In news:1179490384.482452.325460@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com,
Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> typed:
> Blah blah blah...never got over being the hallway monitor, eh?
>
> Like I said, I'm in NYC, let me know via private e-mail if you want to
> meet and talk about your problems. Otherwise, I don't know you from a
> squeaky ol' bench with a screw loose! ^_^
>
>

[...]

Scuse me - are you an internet hard man?

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill

On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:35:40 +0100, "Bully"
<bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote:

>In news:1179490384.482452.325460@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com,
>Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> typed:
>> Blah blah blah...never got over being the hallway monitor, eh?
>>
>> Like I said, I'm in NYC, let me know via private e-mail if you want to
>> meet and talk about your problems. Otherwise, I don't know you from a
>> squeaky ol' bench with a screw loose! ^_^
>>
>>
>
>[...]
>
>Scuse me - are you an internet hard man?

Says 'hard man' Neil, who only a few days ago was requesting a meeting
with "whitedogshitman', for the purpose of demonstrating his ('hard
man' Neil's) prowess in knuckle-sandwiching!!

You're a hypocrite Neil and an adolescent-behavioural loon.

Do have a great weekend old chap - you know I intend to!! ;o)

TFIF!

BHD wrote:
> p.s. this group is real friendly

This group is nothing but encouraging. If you're ignorant, you're
encouraged to learn. If you're stupid, you're encouraged to GO AWAY.

HAND

--
I have nothing at all against well-trained, knowledgeable Indian
technical support. I hope to speak to one before I retire. --JW, ASR

On May 17, 4:25 pm, BHD <elondis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> some of us cant do deadlifts and squats cause we've had two hernias
> (one on each side) and have been told that unless we want to be back
> on the table to stay away from deadlifts and squats.

I'm with you there: I have a hernia in L7 (or whatever the penultimate
disc is designated) and have been wary of deadlifts and squats. My
legs are very developed, in any case -- until recently, Army infantry
emphasized running, running, running! And I bike a lot and jog and do
the ellipticals. And being Asian, my calves are naturally round and
full. ^_^ So in terms of bodybuilding, anyway (i.e., the appearance/
illusion of strength and health), I'm fully covered there!

However, I've finally taken up very careful deadlifting and squatting
this month, and I'm totally enjoying them! Particularly deadlifting,
which gives me a real cardio rush. It's like setting the old Nordic
Track on "hard!" I'm in love all over again thanks to the deadlift.
It really is total-body. Feels like the whole first day in the Army
-- wrapped up in five mikes!

So, in answer to your original question -- aside from the basic
calisthenics movements I'd mentioned -- try the deadlift. Be careful,
practice your form, etc., but that's really a total-body exercise all
right!

> p.s. this group is real friendly

Jealous, insecure little old men. Just be glad most of them are in
MFW and not more in the White House! ^_^

On May 17, 4:37 pm, "Steve Freides" <s...@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>
>
> I've had hernia surgery on both sides, too. For most people most of the
> time, it is best to learn to strengthen the area. I deadlift and squat
> and it helps, not hinders, the weakened areas. Some doctors,
> particularly those not associated with sports, are unnecessarily
> conservative. I would see a sports medicine specialist if you haven't
> already.

Heck, I've had my sports doc -- a former high school football player,
and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Orthopedic Surgeons -- tell me to
stop running forever on account of my bad back! So doctors are
useless, unless you're dying of a gunshot wound or something.

I've just started the deadlift and squat myself, and I really enjoy
them. I feel like a kid first doing push-ups or something! The
deadlift is especially fun to do. I hope -- and would guess -- that
you're right about them strengthening a bad back.

> mfw is mfw - killfile those who don't offer anything you want to read -
> there's no rule that says you have to read what everyone says here.

On that note, I've never understood the point of a kilfile -- just
ignore! (And I've never understood the point of people who like to
proclaim "I've killfiled you, nah nah nah nah!")

> -S-http://www.kbnj.com

"Bully" <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:5b579gF2rf09fU1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:wq33i.304199$115.275031@newsfe10.phx,
> Hard Bop Drums <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> typed:
>> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
>> news:5b1n05F2rb10hU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OqI2i.315993$7g3.240093@newsfe14.phx...
>>>>> "BHD" <elondisc08@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1179270623.368224.18280@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>>>>> so i usually spend about 2hrs a day, 3 times a week in the gym. i
>>>>>> cover pretty much all of the muscle groups with an emphasis on
>>>>>> chest, triceps, biceps, abs, forearms. i also do 2 or 3 back
>>>>>> exercises, 2 shoulder exercises, and 2 leg exercises. I play
>>>>>> ultimate frisbee so that takes care of the legs and cardio. over
>>>>>> the summer i have an internship and wont really have that much
>>>>>> time to spend in the gym. what im looking for is a program that
>>>>>> will keep my upper body in shape and to not really lose muscle
>>>>>> mass or too much definition but to only spend 1 hr, 3 times a
>>>>>> week in the gym. again focusing on chest, arms, and abs. real
>>>>>> answers would be appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think it is hilarious when these dolts think that they can get
>>>> their legs trained by running around. Why do you think so many guys
>>>> have decent upper bodies and legs that look like they had Polio?
>>>> What I don't get is why so many wear shorts. If I had legs like 90%
>>>> of these clowns at my gym, I would cover them up all the time. :-)
>>>
>>> I don't think it's always a question of avoiding legs when lifting
>>> as much as it is that, after running around a lot, your legs are
>>> just shot. I've lifted after running and did OK but I think such a
>>> schedule can turn into overtraining pretty quickly.
>>>
>>> But generally speaking, I agree with you - guys who bench more than
>>> they deadlift or squat are a sorry bunch.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Bench more than squat or deadlift? Shit, I'll bet you that 90% of
>> these guys in my gym who have the upper bodies and no legs can curl
>> more than they can squat! :-) I don't have to worry about that as I
>> can't bench press anymore. I have no idea what it is. My left
>> shoulder doesn't hurt, but I just can't move any weight. I used to be
>> a big bench presser too. I benched over 300 in high school and did a
>> triple with 485 when I was weighing 220, but I can I'll bet I could
>> not flat bench 200 now. I can do dumbbell flies with 80 lbs though,
>> so it makes no sense. I can do dumbbell inclines with 90s too.
>
> If you can do inclines but not flat bench then it sounds like you may have
> a problem with pec major as pec minor can take over with incline pressing.
> Is there any pain?
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees
> the opportunity in every difficulty." Sir Winston Churchill
>

I can do dumbbell inclines, but not bar inclines. I talked to Dr. Fred
Hatfield about it years ago and he had an idea as to what it could be, but
it escapes me now. I have done plenty of heavy bench pressing in my life and
I don't have that kind of ego anymore, so I am cool doing what I am doing. I
don't have any pain in any of the movements. I just can't push the weight. I
guess I should just be glad that I don't have any pain and not worry about
it! :-)


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179490384.482452.325460@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Blah blah blah...never got over being the hallway monitor, eh?
>
> Like I said, I'm in NYC, let me know via private e-mail if you want to
> meet and talk about your problems. Otherwise, I don't know you from a
> squeaky ol' bench with a screw loose! ^_^


Don't worry, no one wants to know some anonymous, homophobic pussy like you.
You have no integrity nor balls.

--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Bully" <bully62@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:5b5ksrF2rm516U1@mid.individual.net...
> In news:1179490384.482452.325460@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com,
> Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> typed:
>> Blah blah blah...never got over being the hallway monitor, eh?
>>
>> Like I said, I'm in NYC, let me know via private e-mail if you want to
>> meet and talk about your problems. Otherwise, I don't know you from a
>> squeaky ol' bench with a screw loose! ^_^
>>
>>
>
> [...]
>
> Scuse me - are you an internet hard man?
>
> --
> Bully


LOL! This guy is the fucking prototype for a shit talking internet tough
guy. He makes up lies about being in the military and then boasts about
being a hard ass, but he can't even post his real name. If I had a nickel
for every fuck like this I have come across in Usenet, I could buy and sell
Bill Gates 30X over.

Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179501117.156305.155820@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 17, 4:25 pm, BHD <elondis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> some of us cant do deadlifts and squats cause we've had two hernias
>> (one on each side) and have been told that unless we want to be back
>> on the table to stay away from deadlifts and squats.
>
> I'm with you there: I have a hernia in L7 (or whatever the penultimate
> disc is designated) and have been wary of deadlifts and squats.

He was talking about a muscle hernia moron.

My
> legs are very developed, in any case -- until recently, Army infantry
> emphasized running, running, running!


Stop with the bullshit. NO ONE has big legs from running etc. Don't bring up
world class sprinters either as they spend as much time under the squat rack
as most bodybuilders do.

And I bike a lot and jog and do
> the ellipticals. And being Asian, my calves are naturally round and
> full. ^_^ So in terms of bodybuilding, anyway (i.e., the appearance/
> illusion of strength and health), I'm fully covered there!
>

You are a deluded fuck. Do you honestly believe you have legs that look like
a bodybuilder from doing nothing but running? If that is the case, you are
THE only human on the planet with that type of genetics. Stop living your
life of delusion.

> However, I've finally taken up very careful deadlifting and squatting
> this month, and I'm totally enjoying them! Particularly deadlifting,
> which gives me a real cardio rush. It's like setting the old Nordic
> Track on "hard!" I'm in love all over again thanks to the deadlift.
> It really is total-body. Feels like the whole first day in the Army
> -- wrapped up in five mikes!
>
> So, in answer to your original question -- aside from the basic
> calisthenics movements I'd mentioned -- try the deadlift. Be careful,
> practice your form, etc., but that's really a total-body exercise all
> right!
>
>> p.s. this group is real friendly
>
> Jealous, insecure little old men. Just be glad most of them are in
> MFW and not more in the White House! ^_^
>

Believe me, NO ONE is jealous of an anonymous shit talking fool who can't
verify a fucking thing he says.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Pussy??

LOL

Robert is gay-friendly but misogynistic!

LMAO!!

Funny you quote Nietzsche...all the weird passive-aggressive wimps
like quoting him!



On May 18, 5:52 pm, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>
>
> Don't worry, no one wants to know some anonymous, homophobic pussy like you.
> You have no integrity nor balls.
>
> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"If I had a nickel for every time...."

Damn, Robert, whatever happened to getting some new material?

Robert's been talking tough on MFW for so many years he's run out of
things to say!



On May 18, 5:53 pm, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>
>
> LOL! This guy is the fucking prototype for a shit talking internet tough
> guy. He makes up lies about being in the military and then boasts about
> being a hard ass, but he can't even post his real name. If I had a nickel
> for every fuck like this I have come across in Usenet, I could buy and sell
> Bill Gates 30X over.

On May 18, 6:14 pm, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>
>
> He was talking about a muscle hernia moron.

We're talking about bad backs, you dizzy faggot!

> Stop with the bullshit. NO ONE has big legs from running etc. Don't bring up
> world class sprinters either as they spend as much time under the squat rack
> as most bodybuilders do.

I've got big muscular thighs from running. I have naturally big
calves 'cause I'm Asian. Just because you can't have them doesn't
mean everyone's deficient like you!

> You are a deluded fuck. Do you honestly believe you have legs that look like
> a bodybuilder from doing nothing but running? If that is the case, you are
> THE only human on the planet with that type of genetics. Stop living your
> life of delusion.

I never said I looked like Arnold or anything, Robert you anal-
retentive sad sack. I just look like a Greco-Roman statue in the
museum, thanks to genetics and running.

> Believe me, NO ONE is jealous of an anonymous shit talking fool who can't
> verify a fucking thing he says.

You are, Robert. You're such a sad little girlie-man, following me
around like some unrequited lover! I see you hanging onto my every
word, making an argument out of it like some unhappy girlfriend!

You're from the '70s, aren't you? I bet all the MFW hallway monitors
came of age in the '70s. You all exhibit the same anal-retentive,
passive-aggressive behavior of that "me" generation.

Bye, Robert -- try to have a nice life.

> --
> Robert Schuh
> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
> - Nietzsche
>
> http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I've got big muscular thighs from running. I have naturally big
>calves 'cause I'm Asian. Just because you can't have them doesn't
>mean everyone's deficient like you!

Why don't you post a pic, porky? You didn't seem to have a problem
posting a pubescent pic of yourself in that old craigslist personal ad
that you used to crow about. It seems you got embarrassed after
people realized how long ago that pic was taken, and you took it down.

On 18 May 2007 16:04:25 -0700, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On May 18, 6:14 pm, "Hard Bop Drums" <nos...@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> He was talking about a muscle hernia moron.
>
>We're talking about bad backs, you dizzy faggot!
>
>> Stop with the bullshit. NO ONE has big legs from running etc. Don't bring up
>> world class sprinters either as they spend as much time under the squat rack
>> as most bodybuilders do.
>
>I've got big muscular thighs from running. I have naturally big
>calves 'cause I'm Asian. Just because you can't have them doesn't
>mean everyone's deficient like you!
>
>> You are a deluded fuck. Do you honestly believe you have legs that look like
>> a bodybuilder from doing nothing but running? If that is the case, you are
>> THE only human on the planet with that type of genetics. Stop living your
>> life of delusion.
>
>I never said I looked like Arnold or anything, Robert you anal-
>retentive sad sack. I just look like a Greco-Roman statue in the
>museum, thanks to genetics and running.
>
>> Believe me, NO ONE is jealous of an anonymous shit talking fool who can't
>> verify a fucking thing he says.
>
>You are, Robert. You're such a sad little girlie-man, following me
>around like some unrequited lover! I see you hanging onto my every
>word, making an argument out of it like some unhappy girlfriend!
>
>You're from the '70s, aren't you? I bet all the MFW hallway monitors
>came of age in the '70s. You all exhibit the same anal-retentive,
>passive-aggressive behavior of that "me" generation.
>

I like that description POW as it is so accurately describes the
clique that used to run this place, and the couple that remain who
would still like to.

Have a great weekend - I am! ;o)

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> schreef:

>> p.s. this group is real friendly

> Jealous, insecure little old men. Just be glad most of them are in
> MFW and not more in the White House! ^_^

I would like to have an important function in the White House.

--
Pete