Superstitions

It was just last week that I seemed to have great difficulty with my
1RM of 275-lbs. on the squat. Well, tonight I did two sets of 3 reps
of 275! Then another set of 1 rep, then back down to 225 for three
sets of 5, 5, 8...this was all after the warm-up of 11x185-lbs. and
8x225-lbs.

I felt like I had a chance at 4 reps of 275, actually, but I didn't
want to push it -- even though luck has less and less to do with
things, if ever! I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
superstitious all of a sudden, even though I'm usually reckless and
pushing my personal performance envelope. Funny thing about tonight
is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch frosted
sponge cake just prior to exercising! -- and did not feel fatigued at
all, so it wasn't like I had any apparent reason to be so cautious.

And indeed, I went on to pump eight or nine sets of concentration
curls with 50-lb. dumbbells -- with both arms, including my left arm
with the tennis and golf elbows. No fear there! I wonder why I just
suddenly get superstitious...it's not like I'm worried, exactly -- I
just decide not to try so hard, and that's that.

Right now I've got a nice buzz from slightly sore muscles...my lats,
chest, triceps, and abs from calisthenics yesterday...my legs from
tonight's squat...even my biceps still has just a vague pump...oh, and
I chatted up some shapely 40 year-old latina MILF who smiled at me,
ignoring the young girls who also smiled at me, and I don't know why I
did that...sometimes it's like I'm not even there, like this is all a
dream and things just happen or don't...I was even thinking of not
going to the gym tonight, but went anyway...it's a very strange life.

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> schreef:

>..oh, and
> I chatted up some shapely 40 year-old latina MILF who smiled at me,
> ignoring the young girls who also smiled at me, and I don't know why I
> did that...

I think your other screenname just kinda forced you into it.

latina_liebhaber@yahoo.com

The powers that are at work here are immensly strong, and extremely
difficult to comprehend.

--
Pete

Prisoner at War wrote:

> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
> superstitious all of a sudden,

That's because you're a fuckwit.

> even though I'm usually reckless and
> pushing my personal performance envelope.

Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.

> Funny thing about tonight
> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch

I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you and
your 'friend' care about that.

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:fl2n4g$b0v$2@otis.netspace.net.au...
> Prisoner at War wrote:
>
>> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
>> superstitious all of a sudden,
>
> That's because you're a fuckwit.
>
>> even though I'm usually reckless and
>> pushing my personal performance envelope.
>
> Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.
>
>> Funny thing about tonight
>> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch
>
> I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you and
> your 'friend' care about that.

Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when it
was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a rather
limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more descriptive of
this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation? This
word is now trite, overused and doesn't mean much. Can you use a more
appropriate word that might better convey your opinion of Prisoner at War?
Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first language.
This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the quality
of your posts.

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> schreef:

>> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
>> superstitious all of a sudden,

> That's because you're a fuckwit.

My 6th sense told me that before you posted.

>> even though I'm usually reckless and
>> pushing my personal performance envelope.

> Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.

See?

Lack of sleep really DID make me psychic.

>> Funny thing about tonight
>> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch

> I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you and
> your 'friend' care about that.

Jesus Ari!

You check out that sorta stuff?

I can handle a lot but, not that sorta stuff. Damn...

--
Pete

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef;

> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when
> it was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a
> rather limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more
> descriptive of this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic
> reputation?

Not fair.

You shouldnt use me as a standard.

I raised the bar too high, didnt i?

--
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"Uncle Bob" <unclebobrules@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4774eb7a$0$52607$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef;
>
>> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when
>> it was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a
>> rather limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more
>> descriptive of this person? A word more worthy of someone of your
>> academic reputation?
>
> Not fair.
>
> You shouldnt use me as a standard.
>
> I raised the bar too high, didnt i?
>

ha ha that's funny!
are the whores still in the windows?

> --
> Pete
>
>
>
>

In article
<86cd543f-f130-456c-9c6a-2ab2a8686b75@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It was just last week that I seemed to have great difficulty with my
> 1RM of 275-lbs. on the squat. Well, tonight I did two sets of 3 reps
> of 275! Then another set of 1 rep, then back down to 225 for three
> sets of 5, 5, 8...this was all after the warm-up of 11x185-lbs. and
> 8x225-lbs.
>
> I felt like I had a chance at 4 reps of 275, actually, but I didn't
> want to push it -- even though luck has less and less to do with
> things, if ever! I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
> superstitious all of a sudden, even though I'm usually reckless and
> pushing my personal performance envelope. Funny thing about tonight
> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch frosted
> sponge cake just prior to exercising! -- and did not feel fatigued at
> all, so it wasn't like I had any apparent reason to be so cautious.
>
> And indeed, I went on to pump eight or nine sets of concentration
> curls with 50-lb. dumbbells -- with both arms, including my left arm
> with the tennis and golf elbows. No fear there! I wonder why I just
> suddenly get superstitious...it's not like I'm worried, exactly -- I
> just decide not to try so hard, and that's that.
>
> Right now I've got a nice buzz from slightly sore muscles...my lats,
> chest, triceps, and abs from calisthenics yesterday...my legs from
> tonight's squat...even my biceps still has just a vague pump...oh, and
> I chatted up some shapely 40 year-old latina MILF who smiled at me,
> ignoring the young girls who also smiled at me, and I don't know why I
> did that...sometimes it's like I'm not even there, like this is all a
> dream and things just happen or don't...I was even thinking of not
> going to the gym tonight, but went anyway...it's a very strange life.

Sugar high.

;-)
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In article <47750262$0$25819$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> "Uncle Bob" <unclebobrules@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4774eb7a$0$52607$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> schreef;
> >
> >> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when
> >> it was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a
> >> rather limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more
> >> descriptive of this person? A word more worthy of someone of your
> >> academic reputation?
> >
> > Not fair.
> >
> > You shouldnt use me as a standard.
> >
> > I raised the bar too high, didnt i?
> >
>
> ha ha that's funny!
> are the whores still in the windows?
>

Only the inflatable ones...
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In article <4774e1f6$0$10472$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:fl2n4g$b0v$2@otis.netspace.net.au...
> > Prisoner at War wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
> >> superstitious all of a sudden,
> >
> > That's because you're a fuckwit.
> >
> >> even though I'm usually reckless and
> >> pushing my personal performance envelope.
> >
> > Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.
> >
> >> Funny thing about tonight
> >> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch
> >
> > I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you and
> > your 'friend' care about that.
>
> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when it
> was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a rather
> limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more descriptive of
> this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation? This
> word is now trite, overused and doesn't mean much. Can you use a more
> appropriate word that might better convey your opinion of Prisoner at War?
> Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first language.
> This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the quality
> of your posts.

And the entertainment value...

altho' I confess to having gotten a chuckle out of his "creative
snipping". ;-)
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He just needs someone to spot him with the dictionary.



On Dec 28, 6:45 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when it
> was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a rather
> limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more descriptive of
> this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation? This
> word is now trite, overused and doesn't mean much. Can you use a more
> appropriate word that might better convey your opinion of Prisoner at War?
> Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first language.
> This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the quality
> of your posts.

On Dec 28, 9:18 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sugar high.
>
> ;-)
> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove - (dash) to validate gmail.
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein


It was almost a two-hour workout, man...I thought a carb-boost only
lasts but so long!

Speaking of which, I'd been meaning to ask: any energizing effects
possible with aspartamine and other sugar-substitutes? 'Cause I seem
to get a slight up-tick in energy from consuming my aspartamine-
contaminated protein shakes...though likely it's just a placebo effect
due to it tasting like sugar....

On Dec 28, 9:22 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> And the entertainment value...
>
> altho' I confess to having gotten a chuckle out of his "creative
> snipping". ;-)

That's actually how the gay and black studies departments on
university campuses determine gay and black achievements in history.
More often than not, it seems, a little creative snipping of the facts
allows them to claim all sorts of things, from "Aesop and origami
comes from Africa" to "Presidents Buchanan and Lincoln were
homosexual."

What fuckwits.

> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove - (dash) to validate gmail.
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

In article
<487d689c-b39a-4e13-a136-cf262a1edb33@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Dec 28, 9:18 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sugar high.
> >
> > ;-)
>
> It was almost a two-hour workout, man...I thought a carb-boost only
> lasts but so long!

Depends on how high you got.
Endorphins take over after a certain point, especially when you push it
like that.

You may regret it tomorrow. <eg>

We shall see.

>
> Speaking of which, I'd been meaning to ask: any energizing effects
> possible with aspartamine and other sugar-substitutes? 'Cause I seem
> to get a slight up-tick in energy from consuming my aspartamine-
> contaminated protein shakes...though likely it's just a placebo effect
> due to it tasting like sugar....

Temporary only, at least for me.
I actually (personally) get a very low Glucose spike from Splenda that
lasts a couple of hours. Since it's non-nutritive, I'm not quite sure
how it works. All I know is that my "fasting glucose" goes from 92 up to
108 if I take the blood sample 30 to 60 minutes after consuming Splenda
(with iced Earl Gray's tea).

I don't know if it's the same with Aspartame. I've not experimented with
that. I avoid that stuff as it tends to cause Renal side effects for me.
YMMV.

Don't discount the protein. Try the Atkins induction diet for the 14 day
recommended period, and see what your energy levels are like after the
first 7 days. You will get a let down at first. After that, the ketones
kick in for most people and give you LOTS of energy.

But, IIRC you are not on a fat burning regimen, so it might be
detrimental for you?

Everybody has different needs.

You could play with a glucometer if you want if you can stand the finger
sticks. I have the advantage of having access to the Dimension as I run
it at night. ;-) Venipunctures hurt less than finger sticks, at least to
me.
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In article
<ae8ff7c5-0bdb-4648-99ec-487025d18c0f@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Dec 28, 9:22 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > And the entertainment value...
> >
> > altho' I confess to having gotten a chuckle out of his "creative
> > snipping". ;-)
>
> That's actually how the gay and black studies departments on
> university campuses determine gay and black achievements in history.
> More often than not, it seems, a little creative snipping of the facts
> allows them to claim all sorts of things, from "Aesop and origami
> comes from Africa" to "Presidents Buchanan and Lincoln were
> homosexual."
>
> What fuckwits.

It's fun to play with statistics too.
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David wrote:
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:fl2n4g$b0v$2@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> Prisoner at War wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
>>> superstitious all of a sudden,
>> That's because you're a fuckwit.
>>
>>> even though I'm usually reckless and
>>> pushing my personal performance envelope.
>> Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.
>>
>>> Funny thing about tonight
>>> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch
>> I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you and
>> your 'friend' care about that.
>
> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when it
> was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a rather
> limited vocabulary.

It's been in use for decades. The fact that it never made an appearance
here until several years ago is testament to the limited vocabulary of
the group. The current use is an indication that I don't find POS to be
worthy of any significant effort.

> Is there another word that might be more descriptive of
> this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation? This
> word is now trite, overused and doesn't mean much.

That description makes it all the more appropriate for use with this
particular character - it's fitting.

> Can you use a more
> appropriate word that might better convey your opinion of Prisoner at War?
> Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first language.
> This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the quality
> of your posts.

Yes, English is my first language. However when I'm running a fever of
103F my posting quality does tend to be of lower overall caliber and
quality.

Ari


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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:fl3jgo$jsh$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> David wrote:
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:fl2n4g$b0v$2@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>> Prisoner at War wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
>>>> superstitious all of a sudden,
>>> That's because you're a fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> even though I'm usually reckless and
>>>> pushing my personal performance envelope.
>>> Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> Funny thing about tonight
>>>> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch
>>> I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you and
>>> your 'friend' care about that.
>>
>> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when
>> it was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a
>> rather limited vocabulary.
>
> It's been in use for decades. The fact that it never made an appearance
> here until several years ago is testament to the limited vocabulary of the
> group. The current use is an indication that I don't find POS to be worthy
> of any significant effort.
>
>> Is there another word that might be more descriptive of this person? A
>> word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation? This word is now
>> trite, overused and doesn't mean much.
>
> That description makes it all the more appropriate for use with this
> particular character - it's fitting.
>
>> Can you use a more appropriate word that might better convey your opinion
>> of Prisoner at War? Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first
>> language.
>> This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the
>> quality of your posts.
>
> Yes, English is my first language. However when I'm running a fever of
> 103F my posting quality does tend to be of lower overall caliber and
> quality.
>
> Ari


Hope you have broken the fever. (I'm glad you qualified with "F" as I would
have been *really* concerned has it been selsius!)
(OK, if you are happy with 'fuckwit' that's ok by me.)
>
>
> --
> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
> volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:
> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/

"Omelet" <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsmp_omelet-3295A8.08220428122007@news.giganews.com...
> In article <4774e1f6$0$10472$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:fl2n4g$b0v$2@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> > Prisoner at War wrote:
>> >
>> >> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
>> >> superstitious all of a sudden,
>> >
>> > That's because you're a fuckwit.
>> >
>> >> even though I'm usually reckless and
>> >> pushing my personal performance envelope.
>> >
>> > Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.
>> >
>> >> Funny thing about tonight
>> >> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch
>> >
>> > I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you
>> > and
>> > your 'friend' care about that.
>>
>> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when
>> it
>> was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a
>> rather
>> limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more descriptive
>> of
>> this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation?
>> This
>> word is now trite, overused and doesn't mean much. Can you use a more
>> appropriate word that might better convey your opinion of Prisoner at
>> War?
>> Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first language.
>> This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the
>> quality
>> of your posts.
>
> And the entertainment value...

Yes
>
> altho' I confess to having gotten a chuckle out of his "creative
> snipping". ;-)

Me too - but now I find out he is running a high fever. I feel guilty . . .
..
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> Peace, Om
>
> Remove - (dash) to validate gmail.
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their
> foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

In article <477566b7$0$26179$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> "Omelet" <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> newsmp_omelet-3295A8.08220428122007@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <4774e1f6$0$10472$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fl2n4g$b0v$2@otis.netspace.net.au...
> >> > Prisoner at War wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I don't know why, but I can get weirdly
> >> >> superstitious all of a sudden,
> >> >
> >> > That's because you're a fuckwit.
> >> >
> >> >> even though I'm usually reckless and
> >> >> pushing my personal performance envelope.
> >> >
> >> > Which isn't saying much, other than you're a fuckwit.
> >> >
> >> >> Funny thing about tonight
> >> >> is that I was so charged up -- I'd eaten half an eight-inch
> >> >
> >> > I knew it! Gag factor kept the other four inches out But only you
> >> > and
> >> > your 'friend' care about that.
> >>
> >> Ari, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when
> >> it
> >> was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a
> >> rather
> >> limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more descriptive
> >> of
> >> this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation?
> >> This
> >> word is now trite, overused and doesn't mean much. Can you use a more
> >> appropriate word that might better convey your opinion of Prisoner at
> >> War?
> >> Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first language.
> >> This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the
> >> quality
> >> of your posts.
> >
> > And the entertainment value...
>
> Yes
> >
> > altho' I confess to having gotten a chuckle out of his "creative
> > snipping". ;-)
>
> Me too - but now I find out he is running a high fever. I feel guilty . . .
> .

He'll be ok. :-)
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On Dec 28, 2:28 pm, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Depends on how high you got.
> Endorphins take over after a certain point, especially when you push it
> like that.

Hmm, no "runner's high" to speak off, though I'm usually pretty
motivated anyway, especially if there are girls or shapely women
around!

> You may regret it tomorrow. <eg>
>
> We shall see.

Sigh, you're certainly right about that! Spent all Friday recovering,
yeah...it wasn't that I was terribly sore, though I was pretty sore,
but that it was all over, and, moreover, felt a certain lack of
energy, except I wasn't sleepy, either!

I'm better now, thanks. Looking forward to my bench press later this
evening.

> Temporary only, at least for me.
> I actually (personally) get a very low Glucose spike from Splenda that
> lasts a couple of hours. Since it's non-nutritive, I'm not quite sure
> how it works.

That's what I mean! I think it must be a kind of placebo effect, even
though we know it's not sugar. I doubt it's simply the protein.

> All I know is that my "fasting glucose" goes from 92 up to
> 108 if I take the blood sample 30 to 60 minutes after consuming Splenda
> (with iced Earl Gray's tea).

Have you eliminated all other possible factors? I wonder what's the
biochemical logic in that!

> I don't know if it's the same with Aspartame. I've not experimented with
> that. I avoid that stuff as it tends to cause Renal side effects for me.
> YMMV.

Renal side effects???

I'm thinking about discontinuing use of ON's Pro Complex on account of
the sucralose/aspartame...I haven't had any problems, I don't think,
but I just don't like the sound of it...WTF are bodybuilders such
pussies, anyway, always complaining about "taste"...didn't they used
to drink 12 raw eggs for breakfast??? WTF, it must be teenagers that
buying all the protein powders if taste is an issue....

> Don't discount the protein. Try the Atkins induction diet for the 14 day
> recommended period, and see what your energy levels are like after the
> first 7 days. You will get a let down at first. After that, the ketones
> kick in for most people and give you LOTS of energy.
>
> But, IIRC you are not on a fat burning regimen, so it might be
> detrimental for you?

What, of course I'm on a fat-burning regimen -- it's New Year's! I
will be able to run faster and longer forty pounds lighter, and I aim
to do a half-marathon this year! The only trick is to keep my
strength up -- indeed, I'm also looking to heave 405-lbs. on the flat
bench!

Yes, I've been checking out the low-carb diets...I'm not at a point
where I can really keep track of what I eat, though I do what I
can...I'm confident that I can burn fat regardless of my diet, so I'm
not really worried -- it certainly ain't coming off in a week like it
used to, but I'm confident it will come off...the trick is keeping it
off for good! I'd already lost up to twenty-five pounds the last time
I'd put my mind to it -- that took two to three months (earlier this
year)...main thing is not to get injured any more! Injuries have me
running for comfort food while staying away from any training....

> Everybody has different needs.
>
> You could play with a glucometer if you want if you can stand the finger
> sticks. I have the advantage of having access to the Dimension as I run
> it at night. ;-) Venipunctures hurt less than finger sticks, at least to
> me.

Ah, I think I'll skip on that stuff. I'm still allergic to blood --
especially my own!

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<3b9f6497-726e-4de5-a75b-6acd496f722b@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Dec 28, 2:28 pm, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Depends on how high you got.
> > Endorphins take over after a certain point, especially when you push it
> > like that.
>
> Hmm, no "runner's high" to speak off, though I'm usually pretty
> motivated anyway, especially if there are girls or shapely women
> around!
>
> > You may regret it tomorrow. <eg>
> >
> > We shall see.
>
> Sigh, you're certainly right about that! Spent all Friday recovering,
> yeah...it wasn't that I was terribly sore, though I was pretty sore,
> but that it was all over, and, moreover, felt a certain lack of
> energy, except I wasn't sleepy, either!

I know it sounds odd, but I actually welcome the DOMS from a hard
workout. It's a "good pain" if you know what I mean. ;-) I just stretch
it out to help it feel better. It's more stiffness than actual pain
anyway.

>
> I'm better now, thanks. Looking forward to my bench press later this
> evening.

Indeed.

Hot baths work well too.

For energy levels, try some green tea, iced or hot, or do like I do and
take the extract capsules. I cannot _stand_ the taste of green tea, but
love the way the caps make me feel.

It's also supposed to be a very good anti-oxidant. a health food. <g>

>
> > Temporary only, at least for me.
> > I actually (personally) get a very low Glucose spike from Splenda that
> > lasts a couple of hours. Since it's non-nutritive, I'm not quite sure
> > how it works.
>
> That's what I mean! I think it must be a kind of placebo effect, even
> though we know it's not sugar. I doubt it's simply the protein.

Don't know whether it's placebo, or the body's physical reaction to the
sweet flavor. I doubt that a placebo could have the actual measurable,
physiological effect that I get.

Remember, these are actual blood chemistries that I run.

I doubt I can "mentally" raise my blood glucose levels. <g>

>
> > All I know is that my "fasting glucose" goes from 92 up to
> > 108 if I take the blood sample 30 to 60 minutes after consuming Splenda
> > (with iced Earl Gray's tea).
>
> Have you eliminated all other possible factors? I wonder what's the
> biochemical logic in that!

Of course I have! It's an 8 hour fasting glucose level, other than the
Splenda in the tea. Black tea has no nutritive value at all. If I use
unsweetened tea, it has no effect.

Splenda afaik is what they call "invert sugar". It's actually sucrose,
but the altered molecular structure is supposed to make it indigestible,
therefore, non-nutritive.

But what works in theory does not always work in fact. The body did not
read the textbook. <g>

But remember, this is just me. In order to prove that Splenda causes a
small glucose spike in humans, you'd need a sample size of at least 20
people minimum to make it statistically significant.

I'd be interested to see what it did to an actual type II diabetic. I
just have insulin resistance, not diabetes. My Hemoglobin A1C last night
was 5.5, right where it's been for the last few years.

I needed some fresh blood samples to run calibrations on our two cell
counters last night, so I ran more chemistries just for grins. ;-)
Since we needed at least 20cc of EDTA blood, I was not going to get it
from a patient. Calibration specimens nearly always come from lab
personnel. Plus, they have to be from a "healthy" individual.


> > I don't know if it's the same with Aspartame. I've not experimented with
> > that. I avoid that stuff as it tends to cause Renal side effects for me.
> > YMMV.
>
> Renal side effects???

It makes me pee. A lot!
Aspartame is rumored to cause kidney problems in some people anyway, but
all it does to me is act like a diuretic.

>
> I'm thinking about discontinuing use of ON's Pro Complex on account of
> the sucralose/aspartame...I haven't had any problems, I don't think,
> but I just don't like the sound of it...WTF are bodybuilders such
> pussies, anyway, always complaining about "taste"...didn't they used
> to drink 12 raw eggs for breakfast??? WTF, it must be teenagers that
> buying all the protein powders if taste is an issue....

<shrugs> I get sick to death of sweet stuff anyway.
I wish they would make some protein powders beef, chicken and maybe
tomato flavored! Make them savory instead of sweet.

You CAN get unflavored protein powders if you look hard enough.
Those can be mixed into whatever you want.

Personally, I can get plenty of protein just eating real food.
I'm past the age where I'm trying to build any real muscle. I just want
to look good naked. <g>

>
> > Don't discount the protein. Try the Atkins induction diet for the 14 day
> > recommended period, and see what your energy levels are like after the
> > first 7 days. You will get a let down at first. After that, the ketones
> > kick in for most people and give you LOTS of energy.
> >
> > But, IIRC you are not on a fat burning regimen, so it might be
> > detrimental for you?
>
> What, of course I'm on a fat-burning regimen -- it's New Year's! I
> will be able to run faster and longer forty pounds lighter, and I aim
> to do a half-marathon this year! The only trick is to keep my
> strength up -- indeed, I'm also looking to heave 405-lbs. on the flat
> bench!

Sorry, I was not sure if you were still trying to burn off body fat.
I know that I sure am! I only gained about 7 lbs. over the holiday
season (over about 4 months) so it was not too bad. I was careful with
the carbs. I don't have much of a sweet tooth anymore anyway.

Last night's triglyceride level was 55 mg/dl. :-)
And I've not worried much about the fat intake... just the sugar and
starch. It used to run about 600 mg/dl. back when I was in college, but
lunch was a package of Hostess donettes out of the vending machine, and
a cherry coke! I don't do that Sh** anymore.

I can easily dump 7 lbs. in only one month of strict low carbing.


> Yes, I've been checking out the low-carb diets...I'm not at a point
> where I can really keep track of what I eat, though I do what I
> can...I'm confident that I can burn fat regardless of my diet, so I'm
> not really worried -- it certainly ain't coming off in a week like it
> used to, but I'm confident it will come off...the trick is keeping it
> off for good! I'd already lost up to twenty-five pounds the last time
> I'd put my mind to it -- that took two to three months (earlier this
> year)...main thing is not to get injured any more! Injuries have me
> running for comfort food while staying away from any training....

It's not a matter of diet, it's a matter of lifestyle.
The changes have to become permanent.

There is nothing wrong with comfort foods...

in moderation. ;-)

I love pasta! I love pasta! I love pasta!

It's relegated to "treat" status at maybe one serving per month, tops.
Ice cream? Once every year or two! But, that's not something I crave.
I lost my sugar cravings a very long time ago...

The nice thing about doing that is that when you DO treat yourself, you
only get the "good stuff". Ice cream? Haagen dasz!

Chocolate? Lindt's truffles!

I'll probably never touch hershey, nestles or mars brand for the rest of
my life.

Ew.

You can afford to spend more on the "good stuff" if you do it less
often. ;-d

Oddly enough, the last pint of HD that I bought, I ate only 1/2 of it. 3
days later I ate 1/2 of what was left for a total of only 3/4 of the
carton.

I tossed the last of it in the trash about a month or so later.

>
> > Everybody has different needs.
> >
> > You could play with a glucometer if you want if you can stand the finger
> > sticks. I have the advantage of having access to the Dimension as I run
> > it at night. ;-) Venipunctures hurt less than finger sticks, at least to
> > me.
>
> Ah, I think I'll skip on that stuff. I'm still allergic to blood --
> especially my own!

<snicker>

Wuss. ;-)

Altho' if you don't have to do it, there is no reason to...

Cheers!
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On Dec 29, 10:55 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I know it sounds odd, but I actually welcome the DOMS from a hard
> workout. It's a "good pain" if you know what I mean. ;-) I just stretch
> it out to help it feel better. It's more stiffness than actual pain
> anyway.

I like imagining that DOMS means muscle growth, but I've noticed now
that I also feel a bit lethargic, too. I don't think I really felt
that way with DOMS before, but now I actually don't want to work out
when undergoing DOMS, whereas before DOMS actually encouraged me and
many times I'd even work out despite the DOMS!

> Indeed.
>
> Hot baths work well too.

Damn, I've only taken showers in all these years, can't remember the
last time I had an actual bath! I shall have to try those "salt
baths" or "mineral baths"...they're supposed to be good for
something....

> For energy levels, try some green tea, iced or hot, or do like I do and
> take the extract capsules. I cannot _stand_ the taste of green tea, but
> love the way the caps make me feel.

I would like to incorporate more tea into my diet. My father drinks
tea all the time. The Chinese way, with a big ol' mug that looks like
a beer stein -- with cover! And he's often spitting back the tiny
shredded tea leaves....

> It's also supposed to be a very good anti-oxidant. a health food. <g>

Yes, that's why I'd like to get it into my diet somehow. But you
know, if you're eating veggies, you've got all the anti-oxidants you
need anyway. So, yeah, I need to eat veggies more! I don't mind them
at all; I just hate food preparation...have to try to work that into
my lifestyle, make it a habit, to spend time washing veggies and so
forth...you see, I really wash 'em, each individual leaf!

> Don't know whether it's placebo, or the body's physical reaction to the
> sweet flavor. I doubt that a placebo could have the actual measurable,
> physiological effect that I get.
>
> Remember, these are actual blood chemistries that I run.
>
> I doubt I can "mentally" raise my blood glucose levels. <g>

Actually, it may not be so far-fetched...I mean, people who believe in
God and the power of prayer miraculously get better on their own,
right?

> Of course I have! It's an 8 hour fasting glucose level, other than the
> Splenda in the tea. Black tea has no nutritive value at all. If I use
> unsweetened tea, it has no effect.
>
> Splenda afaik is what they call "invert sugar". It's actually sucrose,
> but the altered molecular structure is supposed to make it indigestible,
> therefore, non-nutritive.
>
> But what works in theory does not always work in fact. The body did not
> read the textbook. <g>
>
> But remember, this is just me. In order to prove that Splenda causes a
> small glucose spike in humans, you'd need a sample size of at least 20
> people minimum to make it statistically significant.
>
> I'd be interested to see what it did to an actual type II diabetic. I
> just have insulin resistance, not diabetes. My Hemoglobin A1C last night
> was 5.5, right where it's been for the last few years.
>
> I needed some fresh blood samples to run calibrations on our two cell
> counters last night, so I ran more chemistries just for grins. ;-)
> Since we needed at least 20cc of EDTA blood, I was not going to get it
> from a patient. Calibration specimens nearly always come from lab
> personnel. Plus, they have to be from a "healthy" individual.

Whoa, sorry, lost me there! You really bone up on this rocket science
stuff, eh? Vitamins and glucose levels...are you the kind of guy who
keeps health food stores in business?? I actually met a bus driver
the other day, he saw me and figured me for a bodybuilder (seriously,
it's funny how people peg me for that, I know I'm not the only big
Asian in NYC!), started talking to me about vitamins and minerals,
turned out he had a whole stash with him right there, in the bus!! I
think I pissed him off the same way I piss off MFW regulars here when
I dismissed his claims about this vitamin and that mineral and this
food and that way of cooking....

> It makes me pee. A lot!

Not a prostate issue, by chance?

I'm pissing a lot, too, nowadays, and I wonder if it's because I
consumer a lot more protein and/or drink a lot more water -- maybe
even my bad back! I dunno...hate to get a finger up my ass just to
find out, though! The last time I had that kind of an intimate
physical was in high school -- some lady was poking me and lifting up
my penis to check my balls, and I was lying there on the examination
table, dying of laughter!! I couldn't help laughing, I was laughing
the whole time, I kept apologizing but couldn't stop, it was too
funny....

> Aspartame is rumored to cause kidney problems in some people anyway, but
> all it does to me is act like a diuretic.

I'm definitely going to discontinue use of anything with aspartame in
it. The research so far seems inconclusive, but why take chances.
God damn, why the heck are bodybuilders such pussies and need
everything to taste like sugar???

> <shrugs> I get sick to death of sweet stuff anyway.
> I wish they would make some protein powders beef, chicken and maybe
> tomato flavored! Make them savory instead of sweet.

Good God!! Maybe in Japan -- where they're into wacky stuff like fish-
flavored ice cream! (That's Thai, actually -- where they also came
out with fish-flavored soft drinks!!)....

> You CAN get unflavored protein powders if you look hard enough.
> Those can be mixed into whatever you want.

Oh, yes, I know, that's why I'm going to mix my own in future...I took
a liking to ON's Pro Complex 'cause it's got all these BCAAs and
different kinds of protein and all these vitamins and minerals added
in...probably doesn't do much good, if any; I dunno, but it just
sounded like protein that's worth the ~$43 a tub....

> Personally, I can get plenty of protein just eating real food.

Yes, I would just stick to whole foods, too, except that everyone,
including "respectable" scientists, it seems, agree that protein
shakes do work and that being liquid they are absorbed much faster,
which is important of those pre/intra/post workout supplementation
schemes....

> I'm past the age where I'm trying to build any real muscle. I just want
> to look good naked. <g>

Simply try a red light-bulb next time!

> Sorry, I was not sure if you were still trying to burn off body fat.

Well, I believe I can do it with strength training and regular
jogging. I'm going to cut back on carbs, but not doing low-carb per
se. I'm more concerned about all the sugar in my diet, all the
carbs...I actually don't eat much junk food, but carbs are still
everywhere! Damn!!

> I know that I sure am! I only gained about 7 lbs. over the holiday
> season (over about 4 months) so it was not too bad. I was careful with
> the carbs. I don't have much of a sweet tooth anymore anyway.

I gained almost 10 pounds -- I'm bouncing between 240 and 250 now!!!
And, like I said, that four-pack is now threatening to regress into a
two-pack!!

> Last night's triglyceride level was 55 mg/dl. :-)
> And I've not worried much about the fat intake... just the sugar and
> starch. It used to run about 600 mg/dl. back when I was in college, but
> lunch was a package of Hostess donettes out of the vending machine, and
> a cherry coke! I don't do that Sh** anymore.

Haha, you were still doing that in high school?? I gave that up in
junior high!! Wasn't health conscious at all...just lost interest in
that stuff! Still liked it, but it wasn't a staple of my diet
anymore....

> I can easily dump 7 lbs. in only one month of strict low carbing.

The trick is to do it without muscle and strength loss. I think I can
do that, too, with cardio and a cleaner diet, without doing low-carb.
I'll see...that's what I've got planned for January through May!

> It's not a matter of diet, it's a matter of lifestyle.
> The changes have to become permanent.

Yes, well, food is definitely a lifestyle in itself for me (and I
don't even cook!). I think my diet is evolving for the better....

> There is nothing wrong with comfort foods...
>
> in moderation. ;-)
>
> I love pasta! I love pasta! I love pasta!

Did they ever clear that up, whether Marco Polo brought back noodles
from China? He was in the import/export business, after all!

> It's relegated to "treat" status at maybe one serving per month, tops.
> Ice cream? Once every year or two! But, that's not something I crave.
> I lost my sugar cravings a very long time ago...
>
> The nice thing about doing that is that when you DO treat yourself, you
> only get the "good stuff". Ice cream? Haagen dasz!

Can you believe that the HD stores stopped carrying "Mayan Chocolate"
because it wasn't selling????? WTF are all the chocolate lovers of
the world????

Anyone who thinks "vanilla" is a flavor should be chained to a
treadmill set on "surgeon general's warning"....

> Chocolate? Lindt's truffles!
>
> I'll probably never touch hershey, nestles or mars brand for the rest of
> my life.
>
> Ew.

It's amazing how their dark chocolate variants just can't seem to
catch on! Just WTF is up with this market, anyway???? Really, if
there's a better case for nuclear holocaust I'd like to know what it
is....

> You can afford to spend more on the "good stuff" if you do it less
> often. ;-d

You see, I never did get that logic. The whole point of good stuff is
to indulge in it! Indulgence means "at will."

> Oddly enough, the last pint of HD that I bought, I ate only 1/2 of it. 3
> days later I ate 1/2 of what was left for a total of only 3/4 of the
> carton.
>
> I tossed the last of it in the trash about a month or so later.

Now that wasn't necessary. You have a freezer, after all.

> Wuss. ;-)

Not at all: blood is just so untidy outside the body. It's bad enough
the gym idiots have left things all over the place as it is.

> Altho' if you don't have to do it, there is no reason to...
>
> Cheers!

Oh, BTW, it's 2008....

> --
> Peace, Om
>
> Remove - (dash) to validate gmail.
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, latina_liebhaber@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Dec 29, 10:55 am, Omelet <omp_ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know it sounds odd, but I actually welcome the DOMS from a hard
>> workout. It's a "good pain" if you know what I mean. ;-) I just
>> stretch it out to help it feel better. It's more stiffness than actual
>> pain anyway.
>
> I like imagining that DOMS means muscle growth,

I don't think it does, as such. It does mean you've used a muscle that you
haven't been using properly before, though, which is good.

> but I've noticed now that I also feel a bit lethargic, too. I don't
> think I really felt that way with DOMS before, but now I actually don't
> want to work out when undergoing DOMS, whereas before DOMS actually
> encouraged me and many times I'd even work out despite the DOMS!

Shame. IME, working out is a very effective way to get rid of DOMS. I
don't know why, but it is!

>> Hot baths work well too.
>
> Damn, I've only taken showers in all these years, can't remember the
> last time I had an actual bath!

Baths are pure genius. Like you, i shower to wash, but a few weeks ago, i
was aching like fuck from lifting and cycling and whatever, so i sat in a
hot bath, switched the radio on, and rapidly felt so much better it wasn't
even funny.

> I shall have to try those "salt baths" or "mineral baths"...they're
> supposed to be good for something....

Pah. It's the water that does the business!

>> It's also supposed to be a very good anti-oxidant. a health food. <g>
>
> Yes, that's why I'd like to get it into my diet somehow. But you know,
> if you're eating veggies, you've got all the anti-oxidants you need
> anyway.

There was some research recently suggesting that antioxidants increase the
chance of getting cancer. The theory was that you need a certain amount of
damage to stimulate your body's self-repair mechanisms. Sounds crazy, but
it wouldn't be the first time biology did crazy.

> So, yeah, I need to eat veggies more! I don't mind them at all; I just
> hate food preparation...have to try to work that into my lifestyle, make
> it a habit, to spend time washing veggies and so forth...you see, I
> really wash 'em, each individual leaf!

I've started eating lettuce as a single unit. Cos lettuces, usually. Just
pick them up and start biting, like it was a long flaky apple.

>> Splenda afaik is what they call "invert sugar". It's actually sucrose,
>> but the altered molecular structure is supposed to make it
>> indigestible, therefore, non-nutritive.

Invert sugar is sugar that's been treated with invertase; that's an enzyme
that breaks sucrose down into its constituent monsaccharides. In other
words, invert sugar is a mixture of glucose and fructose.

Splenda is (he said, hastily reading wikipedia) sucralose, which is indeed
something sucrose-derived, but in this case, by replacing some hydroxyl
groups with chlorine atoms (nutritious!).

tom

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On Dec 28 2007, 6:36 am, spodosaurus <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote:

re Prisoner at War
[...]

> <snip> you're a fuckwit.
[...]

> <snip> you're a fuckwit.

Just one question, Ari. Is he a fuckwit?

--
Curt

On Dec 28 2007, 6:45 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
[...]

> <snip>, just a word about the word 'fuckwit'. That was clever and witty when it
> was first introduced some years ago. It now suggests a person with a rather
> limited vocabulary. Is there another word that might be more descriptive of
> this person? A word more worthy of someone of your academic reputation? This
> word is now trite, overused and doesn't mean much. Can you use a more
> appropriate word that might better convey your opinion of Prisoner at War?
> Mind you, I'm assuming that English is your first language.
> This is not an attack on you, just a comment that might improve the quality
> of your posts.

Dipsh!t is nice. How's that as an alternative, David?

Oh, drat. There goes my resolution to be un-cynical. Damn you, David
from Australia! Damn you!

--
Curt

On Dec 28 2007, 9:04 am, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
[...]

> are the whores still in the windows?

Whore like fuckwit could really use some synonym action, imo.
Prostitute seems more appropriate. Maybe appropriate's not the right
word, but anything's got to be better than whore, right?

Hooker's always had a decent ring to it.

Happy New Year, David!

--
Curt