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Old 10-14-2007, 10:31 AM
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"Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)

Thought he'd like this, but he will have to click the link since there
is a video:

http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...495&ran=238163

New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world

Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc.
demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber
submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.
Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc.
demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber
submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.
STEPHEN M. KATZ PHOTOS | THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT

By JON W. GLASS, The Virginian-Pilot
October 12, 2007

MOYOCK, N.C.

His Ford Crown Victoria disabled by hostile fire, driver Tom Maffin
scrambled from the car, crouched behind the hood and sprayed a target
with automatic gunfire to cover for a passenger.

Maffin's weapon: a KRISS Super V .45-caliber submachine gun.

If you're military or law enforcement and haven't heard of it, chances
are you soon will.

Maffin is senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc.,
a weapons technology firm that conducts its research and development
from a Virginia Beach office park near Lynnhaven Mall.
> Watch video of the KRISS Super V submachine gun.


By early next year, the Washington-based TDI plans to open a production
facility in Virginia Beach to begin manufacturing the submachine gun for
police and military use and a .45-caliber semi automatic carbine for the
commercial shooting market.

Industry experts say the weapons are unlike any other now on the market
and could shake up the firearms world.

What makes the weapons special, company and industry officials say, is a
new patented operating system that substantially reduces recoil and
muzzle climb when fired.

The recoil, or kick, of a conventional weapon is directed backward into
a shooter's shoulder, causing the gun to rise off target. TDI's "Super
V" bolt-and-slide mechanism directs the energy downward in front of the
trigger.

Company tests indicate the mechanism reduces recoil by 40 to 60 percent
and muzzle rise by about 95 percent over conventional gun operating
systems.

At a Thursday demonstration for media at a Blackwater USA firing range
in Moyock, officials said their system improves accuracy and reduces
user fatigue. The submachine gun can be fired with one hand and remain
on target.

"This is the future of weapons right here," said Andrew Finn, TDI's
senior vice president.

TDI has worked with the Army and special operations forces to develop
the technology. It uses Blackwater's facilities to field test the
weapons.

Officials set up the disabled vehicle scenario to demonstrate the
maneuverability and firepower of the .45-caliber submachine gun, which
TDI says is ideal for close-quarter situations the police and military
encounter in urban settings.


The gun, which weighs about 5 pounds unloaded and collapses to a length
of 16 inches, can be easily carried in helicopters, Humvees and other
vehicles, said Maffin, a retired Marine who began working at TDI's
Virginia Beach operation about a year ago.

"Seeing this product for the first time in my interview, I was sold,"
Maffin said. "It's got the knockdown power a lot of guys want."

Members of the media at the Thursday event, heavy in such trade
publications as Guns & Ammo and Small Arms Review magazines, were
allowed to shoot the submachine gun and the carbine.

"The reduction in recoil is absolutely amazing," said Wendy Henry, who
works in Pennsylvania for Women In Scope, a TV series that promotes
women's awareness of firearms. "It's very easy to maintain your control
over it."

Frank Borelli, a law enforcement and military consultant in Maryland,
said the weapon is "going to rock the firearms industry." He has fired
the TDI submachine gun but did not attend the event.

"What they're doing is very different," Borelli said.

Some industry experts question whether the company will make significant
inroads with military and police, which have moved away from submachine
guns - in part because their pistol-caliber rounds can't pierce body
armor. The gun's price tag - now expected to retail in the
$1,200-to-$1,300 range - also could chill sales.

Company officials said interest is high, noting that they worked with
the Army's Picatinny armament research and development arsenal in New
Jersey to develop the technology.

These guns are the first product that TDI, a five-year-old subsidiary of
Switzerland-based Gamma Research and Technologies Holding SA, has
brought to market.

Chuck Kushell, TDI's chief executive officer and director, said the
Virginia Beach operation, dubbed Viking Works, will grow once production
starts in January or February.


Prototypes of the KRISS Super V .45-caliber submachine gun and carbine
are displayed at TDIs production facility in Virginia Beach.

Currently, eight engineers, machinists and gunsmiths work in a
4,000-square-foot facility. Kushell said he expects to more than double
the space and add 15 to 20 employees as the company ramps up over the
next few months.

To reach the civilian market, the company developed the .45-caliber
carbine. Plans call for marketing it primarily to shooting enthusiasts
who would use it for competitions and target practice, but it also could
be used for hunting.

"This is not going to be a gun for everyone," Kushell said.

Company officials said the Super V mechanism can be adapted to any
caliber weapon. Work currently is under way on a 12-gauge shotgun. And
the company has won an Army contract valued at a little over $1 million
to develop a lighter-weight, more user-friendly .50-caliber machine gun,
Kushell said.

Jon W. Glass, (757) 446-2318, jon.glass@pilotonline.com

Very innovative mechanism.

Peace!

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Old 10-14-2007, 05:20 PM
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On Oct 14, 4:54 am, Omelet <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote:
> "Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)
>
> Thought he'd like this, but he will have to click the link since there
> is a video:
>
> http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...495&ran=238163
>
> New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world<snip>


Cool.

If you've never read any of Lee Child's Jack Reacher novels you might
find them interesting, especially as Child goes into detail on guns
and shooting. His character, Jack Reacher, is a former military police
officer and homicide investigator. Kinda like Jessica Fletcher in a
way as wherever Reacher goes, dead bodies seem to follow.

> Om -> Back to Lurk mode...


Lurk mode? Okay, enjoy that.

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Old 10-14-2007, 05:20 PM
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"Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote
> "Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)


Boring drivel is on topic now. Guns and dogs are the exception.

> What makes the weapons special, company and industry officials say, is a
> new patented operating system that substantially reduces recoil and
> muzzle climb when fired.


Real men aren't 'fraid of no recoil!

I'll take one, though

> "This is the future of weapons right here," said Andrew Finn, TDI's
> senior vice president.


Yeah, right. If they could package modesty...

David


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Old 10-14-2007, 05:20 PM
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In article <1192378811.995468.321150@k35g2000prh.googlegroups .com>,
Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 4:54 am, Omelet <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote:
> > "Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)
> >
> > Thought he'd like this, but he will have to click the link since there
> > is a video:
> >
> > http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...495&ran=238163
> >
> > New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world<snip>

>
> Cool.
>
> If you've never read any of Lee Child's Jack Reacher novels you might
> find them interesting, especially as Child goes into detail on guns
> and shooting. His character, Jack Reacher, is a former military police
> officer and homicide investigator. Kinda like Jessica Fletcher in a
> way as wherever Reacher goes, dead bodies seem to follow.


Right now I'm reading Weber,

>
> > Om -> Back to Lurk mode...

>
> Lurk mode? Okay, enjoy that.
>
> --
> Curt


Depends on how bored I get. ;-)
The gun lists keep me pretty busy sometimes and are more educational.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:54 PM
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In article <fetg30$vfj$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote
> > "Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)

>
> Boring drivel is on topic now. Guns and dogs are the exception.


As always...

>
> > What makes the weapons special, company and industry officials say, is a
> > new patented operating system that substantially reduces recoil and
> > muzzle climb when fired.

>
> Real men aren't 'fraid of no recoil!
>
> I'll take one, though
>
> > "This is the future of weapons right here," said Andrew Finn, TDI's
> > senior vice president.

>
> Yeah, right. If they could package modesty...
>
> David


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Old 10-14-2007, 08:54 PM
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On Oct 14, 12:25 pm, Omelet <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote:
> Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> > If you've never read any of Lee Child<snip>


> Right now I'm reading Weber,


http://www.google.com/search?q=weber%2C+amazon

Details?

[...]

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Old 10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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Omelet wrote:
> In article <fetg30$vfj$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote
>>
>>>"Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)

>>
>>Boring drivel is on topic now. Guns and dogs are the exception.


In that case, can I unlurk as well to tell you guys that I got a 20
gauge for my birthday and went out skeet shooting today? I figured
you'd like to hear that.

Note: I'm still a bleeding heart liberal democrat. I'm just one with an
unrestricted LTC now. :-)

Dally
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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"Dally" <Dally@whoever.com> wrote
> Omelet wrote:
>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>"Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)
>>>
>>>Boring drivel is on topic now. Guns and dogs are the exception.

>
> In that case, can I unlurk as well to tell you guys that I got a 20 gauge
> for my birthday and went out skeet shooting today? I figured you'd like
> to hear that.


Excellent. What brand/model? When are you going hunting?

> Note: I'm still a bleeding heart liberal democrat.


Note: the sun still rises in the east.

OK, you're turn again.

> I'm just one with an unrestricted LTC now. :-)


When the permission is granted to you by The Government, and can be refused
or withdrawn at their whim, it's not "unrestricted".

Comrade

David


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Old 10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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David Cohen wrote:

> "Dally" <Dally@whoever.com> wrote
>
>>Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Boring drivel is on topic now. Guns and dogs are the exception.

>>
>>In that case, can I unlurk as well to tell you guys that I got a 20 gauge
>>for my birthday and went out skeet shooting today? I figured you'd like
>>to hear that.

>
>
> Excellent. What brand/model?


Remington 870 Express Magnum short stock (youth model). I'm letting my
fourteen year old son share it with me. He's currently the same size as
I am. This is likely to change.


> When are you going hunting?


What, orange clay pigeons don't count?

Serious answer: about the time they stop stocking chicken at the local
grocery store.

But I sent my son to a hunter's ed two week camp this summer and he's
going deer hunting in the U.P. of Michigan next month and I've convinced
his woo woo Massachusetts Charter School that this is equivalent to a
bar mitzvah for the boy and turned it into a scholastic expedition by
judicious reading assignments.

Say, we're looking for another "boy goes deer-hunting" book: got any
suggestions?

>>Note: I'm still a bleeding heart liberal democrat.

>
>
> Note: the sun still rises in the east.
>
> OK, you're turn again.


I've convinced my husband that we ought to be stock-piling ammunition,
too. Since I've left MFW I've sort of become a wacko survivalist.

>>I'm just one with an unrestricted LTC now. :-)

>
> When the permission is granted to you by The Government, and can be refused
> or withdrawn at their whim, it's not "unrestricted".
>
> Comrade


Oh, and I still powerlift sometimes, too. Just sayin'.

Dally
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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On Oct 14, 6:47 pm, Omelet <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote:
[...]

re Webster

> "Mutineers Moon" is on the menu at the moment, along with it's two
> sequels.
>
> He has LOTS of good Sci-Fi.


Excellent. Thanks!

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Old 10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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In article <5nfel1Fhsr94U1@mid.individual.net>,
Dally <Dally@whoever.com> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article <fetg30$vfj$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> > "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote
> >>
> >>>"Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)
> >>
> >>Boring drivel is on topic now. Guns and dogs are the exception.

>
> In that case, can I unlurk as well to tell you guys that I got a 20
> gauge for my birthday and went out skeet shooting today? I figured
> you'd like to hear that.
>
> Note: I'm still a bleeding heart liberal democrat. I'm just one with an
> unrestricted LTC now. :-)
>
> Dally


Congratulations! :-) I mean that too.

Skeet shooting is fun and frustrating at the same time when you are new
to it. My first shotgun was a 20 gauge with a full fixed choke. I bought
a 12 gauge with an adjustable choke that I have not fired yet. I expect
my scores to improve...

Interestingly enough, the recoil of a 12 is over-rated. I borrowed other
people's 12 gauges at the last skeet shoot I attended and it really was
no big deal.

Did you get a Mossberg? What type? Pump? Semi-auto? Side by side double
barrel or an over/under?
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In article <1192388599.016941.27530@k35g2000prh.googlegroups. com>,
Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 12:25 pm, Omelet <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote:
> > Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [...]
>
> > > If you've never read any of Lee Child<snip>

>
> > Right now I'm reading Weber,

>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=weber%2C+amazon
>
> Details?
>
> [...]
>
> --
> Curt


Science Fiction.

"Mutineers Moon" is on the menu at the moment, along with it's two
sequels.

He has LOTS of good Sci-Fi.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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In article <5nfjp9Fi10meU1@mid.individual.net>,
Dally <Dally@myself.com> wrote:

> David Cohen wrote:
>
> > "Dally" <Dally@whoever.com> wrote
> >
> >>Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >>> "David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>"Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Boring drivel is on topic now. Guns and dogs are the exception.
> >>
> >>In that case, can I unlurk as well to tell you guys that I got a 20 gauge
> >>for my birthday and went out skeet shooting today? I figured you'd like
> >>to hear that.

> >
> >
> > Excellent. What brand/model?

>
> Remington 870 Express Magnum short stock (youth model). I'm letting my
> fourteen year old son share it with me. He's currently the same size as
> I am. This is likely to change.


Ah. I should have read further down the thread...

>
>
> > When are you going hunting?

>
> What, orange clay pigeons don't count?
>
> Serious answer: about the time they stop stocking chicken at the local
> grocery store.


<lol>

>
> But I sent my son to a hunter's ed two week camp this summer and he's
> going deer hunting in the U.P. of Michigan next month and I've convinced
> his woo woo Massachusetts Charter School that this is equivalent to a
> bar mitzvah for the boy and turned it into a scholastic expedition by
> judicious reading assignments.
>
> Say, we're looking for another "boy goes deer-hunting" book: got any
> suggestions?
>
> >>Note: I'm still a bleeding heart liberal democrat.

> >
> >
> > Note: the sun still rises in the east.
> >
> > OK, you're turn again.

>
> I've convinced my husband that we ought to be stock-piling ammunition,
> too. Since I've left MFW I've sort of become a wacko survivalist.


At least shotgun ammo is cheaper than rifle ammo...
Are you considering learning reloading?

>
> >>I'm just one with an unrestricted LTC now. :-)

> >
> > When the permission is granted to you by The Government, and can be refused
> > or withdrawn at their whim, it's not "unrestricted".
> >
> > Comrade

>
> Oh, and I still powerlift sometimes, too. Just sayin'.
>
> Dally


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Old 10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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In article <1192402214.831636.245180@q5g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 6:47 pm, Omelet <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
> re Webster
>
> > "Mutineers Moon" is on the menu at the moment, along with it's two
> > sequels.
> >
> > He has LOTS of good Sci-Fi.

>
> Excellent. Thanks!
>
> --


He has a lot of interesting concepts using bio-implants for direct
computer communication.

That _would_ save time... <g>
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:23 PM
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Omelet wrote:

> In article <1192388599.016941.27530@k35g2000prh.googlegroups. com>,
> Curt <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 14, 12:25 pm, Omelet <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote:
>>> Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> [...]
>>
>>>> If you've never read any of Lee Child<snip>

>>
>>> Right now I'm reading Weber,

>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=weber%2C+amazon
>>
>> Details?

>
> Science Fiction.
>
> "Mutineers Moon" is on the menu at the moment, along with it's two
> sequels.
>
> He has LOTS of good Sci-Fi.


Isn't Weber the guy who wrote those godawful Hornblower-in-SPAAAAAACE
books?

Oh no, that's David Feintuch. Seriously poor. Weber wrote the Honor
Harrington ones, which are rather fun, even if perhaps not great
literature.

For some reason, i always get him mixed up with Walter Jon Williams,
another writer of actiony SF, although less successful - but underrated, i
think. I would certainly recommend his 'Hardwired' books. Anyone read any
Richard Morgan? He's like a more recent, British version. Fun guy, decent
writer.

Hey, how about David Drake? One of the classic military SF writers!

tom

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Old 10-15-2007, 07:23 PM
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710151725200.13602@urchin.earth.li >,
Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote:

> Isn't Weber the guy who wrote those godawful Hornblower-in-SPAAAAAACE
> books?
>
> Oh no, that's David Feintuch. Seriously poor. Weber wrote the Honor
> Harrington ones, which are rather fun, even if perhaps not great
> literature.


Yes. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for the Honor Harrington series at 1/2
price books.

>
> For some reason, i always get him mixed up with Walter Jon Williams,
> another writer of actiony SF, although less successful - but underrated, i
> think. I would certainly recommend his 'Hardwired' books. Anyone read any
> Richard Morgan? He's like a more recent, British version. Fun guy, decent
> writer.
>
> Hey, how about David Drake? One of the classic military SF writers!
>
> tom


I'll have to watch for both of those, thanks.
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:09 PM
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"Omelet" <omp_omelet@g_mail.com> wrote in message
newsmp_omelet-FE973E.03542614102007@news.giganews.com...
> "Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)
>
> Thought he'd like this, but he will have to click the link since there
> is a video:
>
> http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...495&ran=238163
>
> New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world
>
> Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc.
> demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber
> submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.
> Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc.
> demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber
> submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.
> STEPHEN M. KATZ PHOTOS | THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT
>
> By JON W. GLASS, The Virginian-Pilot
> October 12, 2007
>
> MOYOCK, N.C.
>
> His Ford Crown Victoria disabled by hostile fire, driver Tom Maffin
> scrambled from the car, crouched behind the hood and sprayed a target
> with automatic gunfire to cover for a passenger.
>
> Maffin's weapon: a KRISS Super V .45-caliber submachine gun.
>



They just did a thing on this on Futureweapons. It is a nice toy.

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Old 10-16-2007, 02:05 AM
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In article <w6SQi.28057$054.23627@newsfe14.phx>,
"Hard Bop Drums" <nospam@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:

>
> They just did a thing on this on Futureweapons. It is a nice toy.
>
> --
> Robert Schuh


I took a look at some of the other Futureweapon video links.
The two on Energy weapons were pretty interesting.

Then there were the videos on the tactical robots.
Those look like a very cool idea, but one question they never addressed
in the videos was how vulnerable those things were to bullets...
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:38 AM
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:29:18 -0400, Dally <Dally@myself.com> wrote:

>But I sent my son to a hunter's ed two week camp this summer and he's
>going deer hunting in the U.P. of Michigan next month and I've convinced
>his woo woo Massachusetts Charter School that this is equivalent to a
>bar mitzvah for the boy and turned it into a scholastic expedition by
>judicious reading assignments.
>
>Say, we're looking for another "boy goes deer-hunting" book: got any
>suggestions?


For a 14-year-old, try:

"Harry Potter and the Chamber of Hermione"


>I've convinced my husband that we ought to be stock-piling ammunition,
>too. Since I've left MFW I've sort of become a wacko survivalist.


That's an oxymoron.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:37 PM
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On Oct 15, 11:33 pm, Lucas Buck <sbcp...@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
<snip>
> >Say, we're looking for another "boy goes deer-hunting" book: got any
> >suggestions?

>
> For a 14-year-old, try:
>
> "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Hermione"
>



OMG! Curt- Nom for October HOM award!
(I'm jes' sayin')


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Old 10-17-2007, 02:30 PM
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In article <9nf8h3ljfbf8558ihdvt4j7mbfier7b48k@4ax.com>,
Lucas Buck <sbcpark@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:29:18 -0400, Dally <Dally@myself.com> wrote:
>
> >But I sent my son to a hunter's ed two week camp this summer and he's
> >going deer hunting in the U.P. of Michigan next month and I've convinced
> >his woo woo Massachusetts Charter School that this is equivalent to a
> >bar mitzvah for the boy and turned it into a scholastic expedition by
> >judicious reading assignments.
> >
> >Say, we're looking for another "boy goes deer-hunting" book: got any
> >suggestions?

>
> For a 14-year-old, try:
>
> "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Hermione"
>
>
> >I've convinced my husband that we ought to be stock-piling ammunition,
> >too. Since I've left MFW I've sort of become a wacko survivalist.

>
> That's an oxymoron.


<lol>

October Humor nom'.!
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:30 PM
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Omelet wrote:

> "Guns" are still on topic, right? ;-)


> Thought he'd like this, but he will have to click the link since there
> is a video:
>
> http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...495&ran=238163
>
> New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world


> Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc.
> demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber
> submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.
> Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc.
> demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber
> submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.
> STEPHEN M. KATZ PHOTOS | THE VIRGINIAN-PILOT


Blackwater murders innocent women and children. They're terrorists.

http://counterpunch.org/roberts10162007.html

Blackwater Security, Bush's Private Waffen SS
The Iraqi Genocide
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Why has not the Turkish parliament given tit for tat and passed a
resolution condemning the Iraqi Genocide?

As a result of Bush's invasion of Iraq, more than one million Iraqis
have died, and several millions are displaced persons. The Iraqi death
toll and the millions of uprooted Iraqis match the Armenian deaths and
deportations. If one is a genocide, so is the other.

It is true that most of the Iraqi deaths have resulted from Iraqis
killing one another. But it was Bush's destruction of the secular Iraqi
state that unleashed the sectarian strife.

Moreover, American troops in Iraq have killed more civilians than
insurgents. The US military in Iraq has fallen for every bit of
disinformation fed to it by Al Qaeda personnel posing as "informants"
and by Sunnis setting up Shi'ites and Shi'ites setting up Sunnis. As a
result, American bombs and missiles have blown up weddings, funerals,
kids playing soccer, and people shopping in bazaars and sleeping in
their homes.

Not to be outdone, Bush's private Waffen SS known as Blackwater Security
has taken to gunning Iraqi civilians down in the streets. How do
Blackwater and Custer Battles killers escape the "unlawful combatant"
designation?

One can only marvel at the insouciance of the US Congress to the current
Iraqi Genocide while condemning Turkey for one that happened 90 years ago.

People seldom see the beam in their own eye, only the mote in the eyes
of others. Every member of the Bush Regime is busily at work denouncing
Iran for causing instability in the Middle East.

Meanwhile, the US has invaded two countries, throwing them into total
chaos, while beating the drums for war with Iran and conspiring with
Israel to invade Lebanon and to attack Syria.

The indisputable facts are that the US and Israel have attacked four
Middle East countries and are determined to attack a fifth. Yet, it is
peaceful Iran, at war with no one, that Bush and Israel blame for
causing instability in the Middle East.

Not content with its many wars in the Middle East, the Bush Regime is
sponsoring wars in Africa and is setting up an African Command. The US
government has been bombing and attacking other countries ever since the
cold war ended. Instead of peace, the gang in Washington DC chose war.

Other than the Israel Lobby, the greatest supporters of Bush's wars are
Christian evangelicals, specifically the "rapture evangelicals" and the
"Christian Zionists."

I remember when Christianity was about saving one's soul. Today it is
about bringing on Armageddon. While the various evangelical Christians
preach war in the Middle East, they condemn Islam for being a "warlike
religion."

Americans are so full of themselves that they are blind to their
extraordinary hypocrisy.

The US government has broken every agreement with Russia by withdrawing
from the anti-ballistic missile treaty, pushing NATO to Russia's
borders, conniving to place missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic,
and buying governments in former Soviet republics and installing US
military bases therein.

When Russian President Putin finally has enough and protests, the US
Secretary of State blames Putin for being difficult and restarting the
cold war.

Few Americans realize it, but they take the cake.

International polls show that the rest of the world regard the US and
Israel as the greatest dangers to world peace. Americans claim that they
are fighting wars against terrorism, but it is US and Israeli terrorism
that worries everyone else. The rest of the world knows that the wars
are about US and Israeli hegemony and that the US and Israel are
prepared to engage in whatever acts of terror are necessary to achieve
hegemony.

That is the bare fact.

When the US dollar loses its reserve currency status, the US empire will
come to an abrupt end. Sooner or later the rest of the world will
realize this and, in an act of self-protection, dethrone the dollar.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan
administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal
editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is
coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at:
PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com







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Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
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http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
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Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

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http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:30 AM
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On Oct 21, 10:13 am, Henry <9...@BLOWjob.gov> wrote:Nothing of any
significeance


"Henry the Tool of Everyone Revealed as the Psychic Pawn of the NSA".




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