What would the guy be lifting doing a biceps curl?

The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for his own
defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about his
daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be correct to
say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of himself
in most circumstances.

Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell, how
much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
that workout?

I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of himself
by having good upper body strength.

Thanks a lot. Richie.

> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for his own
> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about his
> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be correct to
> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of himself
> in most circumstances.
>
> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell, how
> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
> that workout?
>
> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of himself
> by having good upper body strength.
>
> Thanks a lot. Richie.

I don't know. How much does a 9mm weigh? The ability to curl that would take
care of any self defense issues that you might have.

Beyond that, there can't be much correlation between a muscle used to flex
your elbow, and the ability to fight.

"Running Jack Flash" <bar9773@hotmail.com> schreef:

>> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of himself
>> by having good upper body strength.

> I don't know. How much does a 9mm weigh?

124 grain.

----
Pete

"Richie" <zilch@dot.com> schreef:

> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell, how
> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
> that workout?

What a weird question.

> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of himself
> by having good upper body strength.

Yeah, right up to the point when you are confronted with a Kick (Thai) boxer
who starts to give an endless serie of low kicks, and destroys your knees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt5EnvM8PDg

----
Pete

"Running Jack Flash" <bar9773@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fI5Yg.14313$Cq3.13999@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
>> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for his
>> own
>> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about his
>> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be correct
>> to
>> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of himself
>> in most circumstances.
>>
>> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell,
>> how
>> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
>> that workout?
>>
>> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of
>> himself
>> by having good upper body strength.
>>
>> Thanks a lot. Richie.

> Beyond that, there can't be much correlation between a muscle used to
> flex your elbow, and the ability to fight.


Of course I appreciate that. I mean that's obvious, it's not all about
strength.

But has anyone here actually got a clue as to what a might be a good
weight to go for?

I've yet to get training, but my arm begins to "fail" or get tired,
after 10 reps at a weight of 6.7Kgs. Okay, my arms are weak, but what
weight would I be doing do you think if someone said "that guys arms are
strong, he ought to be able to restrain or begin to defend
himself with some proper self-defence training"?

Is anyone capable of getting the drift of what I'm asking? It's really a
simple answer I'm looking for for anyone who wants to enter into the
spirit of the enquiry.

Perhaps I ought to write the reply myself and and let folks put in a
figure:

"Hi Rich.

Listen, self defence is more than strength as I'm sure you appreciate,
and maybe it's hard to pin down the characteristics of the "majority of
guys" but to get to the heart of your question: If you were pulling XXX
Kg on biceps curls, I'd say you had a "strong arm". Professional,
or very serious weight lifters often lift something like XXX Kg, but
that's going some"

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:38:28 +0100, "Richie" <zilch@dot.com> wrote:

>Of course I appreciate that. I mean that's obvious, it's not all about
>strength.
>
>But has anyone here actually got a clue as to what a might be a good
>weight to go for?
>
>I've yet to get training, but my arm begins to "fail" or get tired,
>after 10 reps at a weight of 6.7Kgs. Okay, my arms are weak, but what
>weight would I be doing do you think if someone said "that guys arms are
>strong, he ought to be able to restrain or begin to defend
>himself with some proper self-defence training"?
>
>Is anyone capable of getting the drift of what I'm asking? It's really a
>simple answer I'm looking for for anyone who wants to enter into the
>spirit of the enquiry.
>
>Perhaps I ought to write the reply myself and and let folks put in a
>figure:
>
>"Hi Rich.
>
>Listen, self defence is more than strength as I'm sure you appreciate,
>and maybe it's hard to pin down the characteristics of the "majority of
>guys" but to get to the heart of your question: If you were pulling XXX
>Kg on biceps curls, I'd say you had a "strong arm". Professional,
>or very serious weight lifters often lift something like XXX Kg, but
>that's going some"

Well in the movie the karate kid I thought his master gave him some
good advice. His master didn't want to fight and the kid didn't
understand because his master was so good at it. He simply replied
there is always someone better. Next time you pick a fight with some
short skinny kid with glasses he might just kick your ass. You never
really know.

As far as size it isn't just bout arm strength. If someone is 250
pounds it is going to take some serious strength to man handle them.
That is why bodyguards and bouncers are usually tall and big. Unless
you fall into that category you are never going be pushing them
around. The best you can do is defend yourself. You might get better
results with karate lessons than weight lifting. With that little
weight you got a lot of years to go.

Richie wrote:

> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for his own
> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about his
> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be correct to
> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of himself
> in most circumstances.
>
> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell, how
> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
> that workout?
>
> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of himself
> by having good upper body strength.
>
> Thanks a lot. Richie.

Richie,
The amount of weight that someone curls has NOTHING to do with how someone
can defend themselves.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Shute wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:38:28 +0100, "Richie" <zilch@dot.com> wrote:
>
> >Of course I appreciate that. I mean that's obvious, it's not all about
> >strength.
> >
> >But has anyone here actually got a clue as to what a might be a good
> >weight to go for?
> >
> >I've yet to get training, but my arm begins to "fail" or get tired,
> >after 10 reps at a weight of 6.7Kgs. Okay, my arms are weak, but what
> >weight would I be doing do you think if someone said "that guys arms are
> >strong, he ought to be able to restrain or begin to defend
> >himself with some proper self-defence training"?
> >
> >Is anyone capable of getting the drift of what I'm asking? It's really a
> >simple answer I'm looking for for anyone who wants to enter into the
> >spirit of the enquiry.
> >
> >Perhaps I ought to write the reply myself and and let folks put in a
> >figure:
> >
> >"Hi Rich.
> >
> >Listen, self defence is more than strength as I'm sure you appreciate,
> >and maybe it's hard to pin down the characteristics of the "majority of
> >guys" but to get to the heart of your question: If you were pulling XXX
> >Kg on biceps curls, I'd say you had a "strong arm". Professional,
> >or very serious weight lifters often lift something like XXX Kg, but
> >that's going some"
>
> Well in the movie the karate kid I thought his master gave him some
> good advice. His master didn't want to fight and the kid didn't
> understand because his master was so good at it. He simply replied
> there is always someone better. Next time you pick a fight with some
> short skinny kid with glasses he might just kick your ass. You never
> really know.
>
> As far as size it isn't just bout arm strength. If someone is 250
> pounds it is going to take some serious strength to man handle them.
> That is why bodyguards and bouncers are usually tall and big. Unless
> you fall into that category you are never going be pushing them
> around. The best you can do is defend yourself. You might get better
> results with karate lessons than weight lifting. With that little
> weight you got a lot of years to go.

I guess I should not be surprised, but Karate would be one of the LAST things
that I would study to defend myself. Karate has very little real world
application. Have you ever seen a Karate guy fight in the UFC? They get
killed every time. Jiu Jitsu and Moy Tai would do FAR more good than Karate.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4531D483.752120D7@hameggsyahoo.com...
> Shute wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:38:28 +0100, "Richie" <zilch@dot.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Of course I appreciate that. I mean that's obvious, it's not all about
>> >strength.
>> >
>> >But has anyone here actually got a clue as to what a might be a good
>> >weight to go for?
>> >
>> >I've yet to get training, but my arm begins to "fail" or get tired,
>> >after 10 reps at a weight of 6.7Kgs. Okay, my arms are weak, but what
>> >weight would I be doing do you think if someone said "that guys arms are
>> >strong, he ought to be able to restrain or begin to defend
>> >himself with some proper self-defence training"?
>> >
>> >Is anyone capable of getting the drift of what I'm asking? It's really a
>> >simple answer I'm looking for for anyone who wants to enter into the
>> >spirit of the enquiry.
>> >
>> >Perhaps I ought to write the reply myself and and let folks put in a
>> >figure:
>> >
>> >"Hi Rich.
>> >
>> >Listen, self defence is more than strength as I'm sure you appreciate,
>> >and maybe it's hard to pin down the characteristics of the "majority of
>> >guys" but to get to the heart of your question: If you were pulling XXX
>> >Kg on biceps curls, I'd say you had a "strong arm". Professional,
>> >or very serious weight lifters often lift something like XXX Kg, but
>> >that's going some"
>>
>> Well in the movie the karate kid I thought his master gave him some
>> good advice. His master didn't want to fight and the kid didn't
>> understand because his master was so good at it. He simply replied
>> there is always someone better. Next time you pick a fight with some
>> short skinny kid with glasses he might just kick your ass. You never
>> really know.
>>
>> As far as size it isn't just bout arm strength. If someone is 250
>> pounds it is going to take some serious strength to man handle them.
>> That is why bodyguards and bouncers are usually tall and big. Unless
>> you fall into that category you are never going be pushing them
>> around. The best you can do is defend yourself. You might get better
>> results with karate lessons than weight lifting. With that little
>> weight you got a lot of years to go.
>
> I guess I should not be surprised, but Karate would be one of the LAST
> things
> that I would study to defend myself. Karate has very little real world
> application. Have you ever seen a Karate guy fight in the UFC? They get
> killed every time. Jiu Jitsu and Moy Tai would do FAR more good than
> Karate.
>

Screw all of that and go for the weak points. Arnie's weak points will make
him drop to ground like a 12-year-old girl. Strength has nothing to do with
it. Check places like the Adam's Apple, eyes, under the ears, fingers,
etc.... it's hard to fight with an eye hanging out of the socket and two
broken fingers. And if they are in reach of you, you are in reach of their
soft spots.

Brad

"Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4531D38B.B94A226E@hameggsyahoo.com...
> Richie wrote:
>
>> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for his
>> own
>> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about his
>> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be correct
>> to
>> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of himself
>> in most circumstances.
>>
>> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell,
>> how
>> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
>> that workout?
>>
>> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of
>> himself
>> by having good upper body strength.
>>
>> Thanks a lot. Richie.
>
> Richie,
> The amount of weight that someone curls has NOTHING to do with how
> someone
> can defend themselves.


Hi.

Well, yea I know.

Okay, lets rephrase all this.

What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong arms",
be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have an
opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about 25Kg?
This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying to get the feel of
what I might need to be able to curl and feel confident that at least
I've got some reasonable strength.

Richie.

Richie wrote:
>
> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell, how
> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
> that workout?

as much weight as he (you) could curl in good form for 8-12 reps
considering that you've probably never even picked up a dumbbell.

Richie wrote:
> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4531D38B.B94A226E@hameggsyahoo.com...
>> Richie wrote:
>>
>>> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for his
>>> own
>>> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about his
>>> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be
>>> correct to
>>> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of himself
>>> in most circumstances.
>>>
>>> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell,
>>> how
>>> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm
>>> in that workout?
>>>
>>> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of
>>> himself
>>> by having good upper body strength.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot. Richie.
>>
>> Richie,
>> The amount of weight that someone curls has NOTHING to do with how
>> someone
>> can defend themselves.
>
>
> Hi.
>
> Well, yea I know.
>
> Okay, lets rephrase all this.
>
> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have
> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about
> 25Kg? This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying to get the
> feel of what I might need to be able to curl and feel confident that
> at least I've got some reasonable strength.

What bodyweight are you?

>
> Richie.



--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Bully wrote:
> Richie wrote:
[...]

> > What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
> > arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have
> > an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about
> > 25Kg?
[...]

That'd be pretty cool. Dumbbells weighing 25Kg (55 lbs.) is what I
would consider some decently strong arms for curls.

> What bodyweight are you?

Aw, come ON, Bully! Afraid to nail yourself down on this question? Just
throw out a number! Olympic bar curls with a wheel on each side for
instance. Don't be shy. ;o)

> > Richie.

Okay, you're right. Maybe ol' Richie weighs a mere 10 stones. p

Otoh, bodyweight doesn't necessarily relate to a person's strength.
Arnold outweighed Franco by some 90 pounds and, well, Arnold was no
Franco in the strength arena. No.

Likewise, I outweigh Naim Süleymanoglu aka The Pocket Hercules by a
good 50 pounds (at least from his competition days). Guess who's
stronger with one arm tied behind his back?

....

Maybe both arms tied behind his back.

> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

--
Curt

Richie wrote:

> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4531D38B.B94A226E@hameggsyahoo.com...
> > Richie wrote:
> >
> >> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for his
> >> own
> >> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about his
> >> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be correct
> >> to
> >> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of himself
> >> in most circumstances.
> >>
> >> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell,
> >> how
> >> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm in
> >> that workout?
> >>
> >> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of
> >> himself
> >> by having good upper body strength.
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot. Richie.
> >
> > Richie,
> > The amount of weight that someone curls has NOTHING to do with how
> > someone
> > can defend themselves.
>
> Hi.
>
> Well, yea I know.
>
> Okay, lets rephrase all this.
>
> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong arms",
> be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have an
> opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about 25Kg?
> This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying to get the feel of
> what I might need to be able to curl and feel confident that at least
> I've got some reasonable strength.
>
> Richie.

I am curious why you are so obsessed with the curl? I think a bench press
would be a better indicator of upper body core strength.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

Curt James wrote:
> Bully wrote:
>> Richie wrote:
> [...]
>
>>> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
>>> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have
>>> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about
>>> 25Kg?
> [...]
>
> That'd be pretty cool. Dumbbells weighing 25Kg (55 lbs.) is what I
> would consider some decently strong arms for curls.
>
>> What bodyweight are you?
>
> Aw, come ON, Bully! Afraid to nail yourself down on this question?
> Just throw out a number! Olympic bar curls with a wheel on each side
> for instance. Don't be shy. ;o)
>
>>> Richie.
>
> Okay, you're right. Maybe ol' Richie weighs a mere 10 stones. p
>
> Otoh, bodyweight doesn't necessarily relate to a person's strength.

But in general, it should!

> Arnold outweighed Franco by some 90 pounds and, well, Arnold was no
> Franco in the strength arena. No.
>
> Likewise, I outweigh Naim Süleymanoglu aka The Pocket Hercules by a
> good 50 pounds (at least from his competition days). Guess who's
> stronger with one arm tied behind his back?
>
> ...
>
> Maybe both arms tied behind his back.
>
>> Bully
>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk



--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Robert Schuh wrote:
> Richie wrote:
>
>> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4531D38B.B94A226E@hameggsyahoo.com...
>>> Richie wrote:
>>>
>>>> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for
>>>> his own
>>>> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about
>>>> his daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be
>>>> correct to
>>>> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of
>>>> himself in most circumstances.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell,
>>>> how
>>>> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm
>>>> in that workout?
>>>>
>>>> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of
>>>> himself
>>>> by having good upper body strength.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot. Richie.
>>>
>>> Richie,
>>> The amount of weight that someone curls has NOTHING to do with how
>>> someone
>>> can defend themselves.
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Well, yea I know.
>>
>> Okay, lets rephrase all this.
>>
>> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
>> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have
>> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about
>> 25Kg? This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying to get
>> the feel of what I might need to be able to curl and feel confident
>> that at least I've got some reasonable strength.
>>
>> Richie.
>
> I am curious why you are so obsessed with the curl? I think a bench
> press would be a better indicator of upper body core strength.

Yeah, that's where I was going after the bodyweight question. How many BP
reps at bodyweight would equate to strong? My starter is 10...

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Bully wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's where I was going after the bodyweight question. How many BP
> reps at bodyweight would equate to strong? My starter is 10...

How many sets?

Stephen
>
> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
> matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Stephen Mulholland wrote:
> Bully wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, that's where I was going after the bodyweight question. How
>> many BP reps at bodyweight would equate to strong? My starter is
>> 10...
>
> How many sets?
>
> Stephen
>>
>> --
>> Bully
>> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>>
>> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
>> matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

For me...or you ?

--
Bully
Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Bully wrote:
> Stephen Mulholland wrote:
> > Bully wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, that's where I was going after the bodyweight question. How
> >> many BP reps at bodyweight would equate to strong? My starter is
> >> 10...
> >
> > How many sets?
> >
> > Stephen
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bully
> >> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
> >>
> >> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
> >> matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
>
> For me...or you ?
>



I couldn't do 10 at BW. (188 lb). My best for three sets is 7,5,4.

Stephen


> --
> Bully
> Protein bars: http://www.proteinbars.co.uk
>
> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
> matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:26:11 -0700, Robert Schuh
<rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote:

>I guess I should not be surprised, but Karate would be one of the LAST things
>that I would study to defend myself. Karate has very little real world
>application. Have you ever seen a Karate guy fight in the UFC? They get
>killed every time. Jiu Jitsu and Moy Tai would do FAR more good than Karate.

I only recommended Karate because that is the most readily available
in almost every city of the US. With most men all it takes is a few
good moves and to not show any fear. Once they find out you are not
an easy target they will back down. Knowing more moves will help if
they don't.

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:46:21 GMT, "BradandBrooks"
<BradandBrooks@shaw.ca> wrote:


>Screw all of that and go for the weak points. Arnie's weak points will make
>him drop to ground like a 12-year-old girl. Strength has nothing to do with
>it. Check places like the Adam's Apple, eyes, under the ears, fingers,
>etc.... it's hard to fight with an eye hanging out of the socket and two
>broken fingers. And if they are in reach of you, you are in reach of their
>soft spots.
>
>Brad

I take it you don't get pushed around easily. I see these guys get
beat up on tv and it is like they just lay there and take it.

"Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:4pf51gFi7qsiU1@individual.net...
> Richie wrote:
>> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4531D38B.B94A226E@hameggsyahoo.com...
>>> Richie wrote:
>>>
>>>> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for
>>>> his
>>>> own
>>>> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about
>>>> his
>>>> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be
>>>> correct to
>>>> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of
>>>> himself
>>>> in most circumstances.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a dumbell,
>>>> how
>>>> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm
>>>> in that workout?
>>>>
>>>> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of
>>>> himself
>>>> by having good upper body strength.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot. Richie.
>>>
>>> Richie,
>>> The amount of weight that someone curls has NOTHING to do with how
>>> someone
>>> can defend themselves.
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Well, yea I know.
>>
>> Okay, lets rephrase all this.
>>
>> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
>> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have
>> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about
>> 25Kg? This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying to get the
>> feel of what I might need to be able to curl and feel confident that
>> at least I've got some reasonable strength.
>
> What bodyweight are you?

About 200 LBS.

Richie wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
> news:4pf51gFi7qsiU1@individual.net...
>> Richie wrote:
>>> "Robert Schuh" <rschuh@hameggsyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4531D38B.B94A226E@hameggsyahoo.com...
>>>> Richie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The guy has sufficient arm strength to be able to manhandle (for
>>>>> his
>>>>> own
>>>>> defence), the majority of guys he would tend to meet going about
>>>>> his
>>>>> daily life. Basically, sufficient arm strength so it would be
>>>>> correct to
>>>>> say the guy has strong arms and can pretty much take care of
>>>>> himself
>>>>> in most circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, if during a workout this guy did biceps curls with a
>>>>> dumbell, how
>>>>> much weight would you think the guy should be lifting with his arm
>>>>> in that workout?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a complete newbie BTW who wants to be able to take care of
>>>>> himself
>>>>> by having good upper body strength.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot. Richie.
>>>>
>>>> Richie,
>>>> The amount of weight that someone curls has NOTHING to do with how
>>>> someone
>>>> can defend themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Well, yea I know.
>>>
>>> Okay, lets rephrase all this.
>>>
>>> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
>>> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to have
>>> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about
>>> 25Kg? This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying to get
>>> the feel of what I might need to be able to curl and feel confident
>>> that at least I've got some reasonable strength.
>>
>> What bodyweight are you?
>
> About 200 LBS.

OK, so you should be benching about 100kg, squatting 130kg and deadlifting
160lg. All of these would be for 8-10 reps for 3 sets. Then, you would be
strong. Once you're doing this, feel free to test out your bicep curl !

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"Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
news:4phrn8FiiadjU1@individual.net...
> Richie wrote:

>>>> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
>>>> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to
>>>> have
>>>> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What about
>>>> 25Kg? This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying to get
>>>> the feel of what I might need to be able to curl and feel confident
>>>> that at least I've got some reasonable strength.
>>>
>>> What bodyweight are you?
>>
>> About 200 LBS.
>
> OK, so you should be benching about 100kg, squatting 130kg and
> deadlifting 160lg. All of these would be for 8-10 reps for 3 sets.
> Then, you would be strong. Once you're doing this, feel free to test
> out your bicep curl !


Okay. :c)

Thanks.

(Just on the offchance): BTW, anyone around 200LBS doing the above
figures? What can you do for a bicept curl?

Richie wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
> news:4phrn8FiiadjU1@individual.net...
>> Richie wrote:
>
>>>>> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
>>>>> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to
>>>>> have
>>>>> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What
>>>>> about 25Kg? This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying
>>>>> to get the feel of what I might need to be able to curl and feel
>>>>> confident that at least I've got some reasonable strength.
>>>>
>>>> What bodyweight are you?
>>>
>>> About 200 LBS.
>>
>> OK, so you should be benching about 100kg, squatting 130kg and
>> deadlifting 160lg. All of these would be for 8-10 reps for 3 sets.
>> Then, you would be strong. Once you're doing this, feel free to test
>> out your bicep curl !
>
>
> Okay. :c)
>
> Thanks.
>
> (Just on the offchance): BTW, anyone around 200LBS doing the above
> figures? What can you do for a bicept curl?

I'm 220 and I'm doing more than the above. Bicep curl, prob about 25kg.
Dunno really as I rarely do them, and if I do I never one rep max anyway!!!

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Richie wrote:
> "Bully" <bully1@proteinbars.co.ok> wrote in message
> news:4phrn8FiiadjU1@individual.net...
>> Richie wrote:
>
>>>>> What weight would a guy, who might be considered to have "strong
>>>>> arms", be using doing bicepts curls? I mean, someone has got to
>>>>> have
>>>>> an opinion. It won't be 10 Kg and 100Kg is over-the-top. What
>>>>> about 25Kg? This is not an exact science I know, I'm just trying
>>>>> to get the feel of what I might need to be able to curl and feel
>>>>> confident that at least I've got some reasonable strength.
>>>>
>>>> What bodyweight are you?
>>>
>>> About 200 LBS.
>>
>> OK, so you should be benching about 100kg, squatting 130kg and
>> deadlifting 160lg. All of these would be for 8-10 reps for 3 sets.
>> Then, you would be strong. Once you're doing this, feel free to test
>> out your bicep curl !
>
>
> Okay. :c)
>
> Thanks.
>
> (Just on the offchance): BTW, anyone around 200LBS doing the above
> figures? What can you do for a bicept curl?

BTW: as stated previously, you need to get over the bicep curl thing. It's
making you look like a bit of a dork.

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Bully
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